[ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Satoshi Vision - Unmoderated Thread

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Until then, he's still a fraud.

I don't understand much about the Satoshi drama, but is good to know the sentiment of some Bitcoin maximalist that Craig is only a fraud for the moment, and when he finally prove that he is Satoshi then the flippening will happen faster than what we though.

But why hold the proof, the ultimate proof, too long? This has become a useless drama because Craig is saying a lot of things. He is claiming this and that but he lacks any proof, undeniable proof, a proof beyond all doubt, that would finally end everything and completely shut the mouth of all critics?

Until then, flippening is at most an illusion.

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[fratoshi]

Until then, he's still a fraud.

I don't understand much about the Satoshi drama, but is good to know the sentiment of some Bitcoin maximalist that Craig is only a fraud for the moment, and when he finally prove that he is Satoshi then the flippening will happen faster than what we though.

But why hold the proof, the ultimate proof, too long? This has become a useless drama because Craig is saying a lot of things. He is claiming this and that but he lacks any proof, undeniable proof, a proof beyond all doubt, that would finally end everything and completely shut the mouth of all critics?

Until then, flippening is at most an illusion.

As far as i understand, he did not sign any key or proof anything because if he do so he will be breaking the rules of the tulip trust, he just said that he receive the keys that unlock those address so he can now sign or move those coins legally.

So if he do so, that means he is Satoshi?
And by default BSV is the original Bitcoin?

[JayJuanGee]

Until then, he's still a fraud.

I don't understand much about the Satoshi drama, but is good to know the sentiment of some Bitcoin maximalist that Craig is only a fraud for the moment, and when he finally prove that he is Satoshi then the flippening will happen faster than what we though.

But why hold the proof, the ultimate proof, too long? This has become a useless drama because Craig is saying a lot of things. He is claiming this and that but he lacks any proof, undeniable proof, a proof beyond all doubt, that would finally end everything and completely shut the mouth of all critics?

Until then, flippening is at most an illusion.

As far as i understand, he did not sign any key or proof anything because if he do so he will be breaking the rules of the tulip trust, he just said that he receive the keys that unlock those address so he can now sign or move those coins legally.

So if he do so, that means he is Satoshi?
And by default BSV is the original Bitcoin?

I already anticipate (and I believe others have asserted the same) that Craig might be able to show that he has access to the copies of satoshi keys on the BSV chain.. which is a BIG so fucking what.

He needs to be able to show that he has access to those keys on the BTC chain..   The court is NOT that dumb, even though Craig is probably dumb enough to assert that BSV is bitcoin.... which does not really mean shit, because BSV is a November 2018 creation, even though it had used bcash and BTC transactional history, but that capacity to get access to unmoved coins will be caused by centralized manipulation on a chain that is a copy of a copy of a copy... not even close to the real bitcoin....  The court should really just lock him up and throw away the key when they see him trying to play that copy of a copy of a copy card.

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Until then, he's still a fraud.

I don't understand much about the Satoshi drama, but is good to know the sentiment of some Bitcoin maximalist that Craig is only a fraud for the moment, and when he finally prove that he is Satoshi then the flippening will happen faster than what we though.

But why hold the proof, the ultimate proof, too long? This has become a useless drama because Craig is saying a lot of things. He is claiming this and that but he lacks any proof, undeniable proof, a proof beyond all doubt, that would finally end everything and completely shut the mouth of all critics?

Until then, flippening is at most an illusion.

As far as i understand, he did not sign any key or proof anything because if he do so he will be breaking the rules of the tulip trust, he just said that he receive the keys that unlock those address so he can now sign or move those coins legally.

So if he do so, that means he is Satoshi?
And by default BSV is the original Bitcoin?

Do I still need to respond to this? I guess JayJuanGee's reply is more than enough.

By the way, it is a fallacy to call what comes after as the original and what comes before as the fake one. That defies logic. 

[fratoshi]

In this last filling by Satoshi, he gave 1600 address that he claims he owns and that hold bitcoin he mined, the total amount is approx a bit over 1,000,000 BTC

So if Craig is lying about that, why the real owners of those 1600 address don't move their coins?
So is Craig telling the truth? he owns the satoshi address? he is satoshi?

[nutildah]

In this last filling by Satoshi, he gave 1600 address that he claims he owns and that hold bitcoin he mined, the total amount is approx a bit over 1,000,000 BTC

So if Craig is lying about that, why the real owners of those 1600 address don't move their coins?
So is Craig telling the truth? he owns the satoshi address? he is satoshi?

There's no way Craig is Satoshi. If he was really Satoshi he wouldn't have felt the need to tell dozens or even hundreds of lies over the year. He wouldn't have perjured himself in court, or made idiotic statements defaming others (such as theymos and sirius, two of the original members of this forum), which caused the judge to enter into a default judgment for the plaintiff.

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536.377.0.pdf

Craig is a con man. People buying SV are buying into a con. It will end poorly for them.

[fratoshi]

Currently is 4.4% more profitable to mine BSV than BTC

Is BTC at risk of losing hash power because miners will switch to BSV?

[Dabs]

Let's see him move a bunch of those coins from several of the 1600 addresses. Perhaps he got one, but the important ones are within the first 100 blocks, particularly the genesis block and the key used in block 70 (as payment to Hal.)

That and his PGP key.

[arielbit]

Currently is 4.4% more profitable to mine BSV than BTC

Is BTC at risk of losing hash power because miners will switch to BSV?

of course, it is easier to pump smaller cap coins. that's why you can make it more profitable for a certain period of time.

don't worry, miners will switch to BSV to get more USD or BTC hehe.

[fratoshi]

Interesting, and when do you think BSV will overtake XRP and take the 3rd position?
This week?

[Piston Honda]

lol someone would be insane to buy now unless u have good inside info.
still, a shit scam even if has a lame pump, which is all bs behind it.

[fratoshi]

lol someone would be insane to buy now unless u have good inside info.
still, a shit scam even if has a lame pump, which is all bs behind it.

Funny because i been hearing the same thing since it was 50$

[hv_]

In this last filling by Satoshi, he gave 1600 address that he claims he owns and that hold bitcoin he mined, the total amount is approx a bit over 1,000,000 BTC

So if Craig is lying about that, why the real owners of those 1600 address don't move their coins?
So is Craig telling the truth? he owns the satoshi address? he is satoshi?

There's no way Craig is Satoshi. If he was really Satoshi he wouldn't have felt the need to tell dozens or even hundreds of lies over the year. He wouldn't have perjured himself in court, or made idiotic statements defaming others (such as theymos and sirius, two of the original members of this forum), which caused the judge to enter into a default judgment for the plaintiff.

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536.377.0.pdf

Craig is a con man. People buying SV are buying into a con. It will end poorly for them.

Yea - no way ...

cause why?

Cause triggered nutti wil go and cry ?

BTW: It does not matter so much - cause BitCoin (BSV) does not care

[Dabs]

It may eventually rise, but it's not something I can actually count on. The viability and predictability of the coin looks unstable or uncertain. Will it be here 10 years from now? Maybe. Would I put my entire life savings in it? I don't think so.

It really depends on your risk tolerance. Why even bother when you can just get any other altcoin out there.

[nutildah]

BitcoinSV price pumped by 100% in 1 day :O All because of the possibility that Craig Wright has access to 1 million BTC and will dump them for BSV.

I don't think its a possibility. Just going by his track record of being a compulsive liar, he is certainly lying about having the keys to the famed Satoshi Stash.

If you're wondering about how the price could rise to such a degree given the fact that their dev was basically called a fraud by a federal judge, I found this explanation to be accurate and concise:

BSV shills aren't exactly the most intelligent people. They've had CSW lie to their faces for years and yet they still swallow whatever word salad he serves them next.

[BitcoinFX]

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Are they even aware that this speculation is about an unconfirmed rumor? The element containing the information will be censored. No one will be able to verify it. The supporters will be disillusioned.

So the courier dropped off the code to open the .zip file containing the 16,000 addresses = 1.1 million bitcoin. But there is still no access to the seed code which is the private key. And there was a death pump for that and now it's Dash who is pumping (maybe cleaning up?) the outputs......... Frankly, it's very clever to have played with words.

Unfortunately, the curious deliveryman would not have brought the said private keys with him, according to an official document filed with the Court in question by the lawyers defending the Kleiman family.

https://www.scribd.com/document/442965735/Motion-to-Continue-CSW?language_settings_changed=English

CSW = NO PRIVATE KEYS = NOT OWNER OF FUNDS

*meme*

"BREAKING NEWS ::: Craig Wright shows new evidence in  court thats proofs once and for all the Tulip Trusts existence and hence he is the creator or BitC0in 😂😂"



- https://twitter.com/BitcoinMemeHub/status/1215425520936128512

...

"The flippening continued...

The original fake bitcoin overtakes the fake fake bitcoin again 🍿🍿🍿"

- https://twitter.com/BitcoinMemeHub/status/1217496853299761152 *NSFW*


"Remember: Fair value of BSV is 0"
- https://twitter.com/hodlonaut/status/1217146971384885250

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Bassackwards ? Backflippening ??

"The file that arrived by "bonded courier" allowed him to unlock a file with 16k addresses. In the past CSW already submitted a list with 27k addresses, but those contained known addresses of other people.  I guess they tried to filter out those this time."
- https://twitter.com/WhalePanda/status/1217462783492661248

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"Wait...

"- Dave moves 1.1M BTC to Tulip Trust in June 2011, and bonded courier will give all BTC back on Jan 1, 2020.

- Now, courier makes 16404 public addresses known with 820,200 BTC. No access.

Will Craig now sue Ira for breach of contract PLUS ~280,000 missing BTC? 😱"..."
- https://twitter.com/MyLegacyKit/status/1217440118698586112

...

*meme*



- https://twitter.com/BitcoinMemeHub/status/1217338075799379974

[contraband]

Heading back down.

Surprize surprize lmfao


Out of control...

....you cant make this shit up....

Oh wait...

....he did

[fratoshi]

Heading back down.

Surprize surprize lmfao


Out of control...

....you cant make this shit up....

Oh wait...

....he did

How much down will go?

I think will go to 230 and stay there till around Feb 10 when the next hype will happen because of the conference

[hv_]

Heading back down.

Surprize surprize lmfao


Out of control...

....you cant make this shit up....

Oh wait...

....he did

How much down will go?

I think will go to 230 and stay there till around Feb 10 when the next hype will happen because of the conference

In the end price and ppl are not really relevant to Bitcoin

Bitcoins use and options to get acceptance as a 'boring' stable protocol layer for any application of value transport and its documentation

Speculation obsession derails and is just pitch for the dumb

Watch for the use


https://mobile.twitter.com/m_murfy/status/1215185501088440325

[arielbit]

Heading back down.

Surprize surprize lmfao


Out of control...

....you cant make this shit up....

Oh wait...

....he did

How much down will go?

I think will go to 230 and stay there till around Feb 10 when the next hype will happen because of the conference

In the end price and ppl are not really relevant to Bitcoin

Bitcoins use and options to get acceptance as a 'boring' stable protocol layer for any application of value transport and its documentation

Speculation obsession derails and is just pitch for the dumb

Watch for the use


https://mobile.twitter.com/m_murfy/status/1215185501088440325

the first use of BSV (that forked off BCH that forked off BTC) is to copy BTC to make money off new blood that will come in to crypto land, because [insert technical and philosophical mumbo jumbos here].