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July 22, 2020, 08:32:57 AM
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Loma is the more skilled fighter but the long layoff will have a greater impact on him than Lopez. I don't know if a fighter his age can remain sharp without being active in competition.
Lomachenko is fighting all his life and he does have some crazy drills and many of the fighters are copying his training methods and for a fighter like that he will prepare in his way to face Lopez and a one year lay off will not do much harm as he will be healing from his old injuries and he will be perfectly fit and sharp when he enters the ring and regarding his age he is just 32 years which is the prime age for majority of the athletes.
Lomachenko  never had a bad fight, so let's expect he will show the same in this fight, maybe if I will bet on his opponent, the only factor that will attract me is that Teofimo Lopez is the younger fighter here, that's it, and of course the odds since Teofimo Lopez is the underdog.

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July 23, 2020, 07:37:09 AM
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Loma is the more skilled fighter but the long layoff will have a greater impact on him than Lopez. I don't know if a fighter his age can remain sharp without being active in competition.

It's not like Loma is old lol, he only turned 32 a few months ago. I don't think 32 is old for this generation of boxers. Pacquiao is in his 40s and still going strong.

You can bet your ass that Loma is still training like a beast in this period though, these guys never stop.

Lopez is the one most likely to sit around and waste time, since he probably hasn't developed the grit and determination that loma has had a decade longer to forge.
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July 23, 2020, 10:52:25 AM
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Loma is the more skilled fighter but the long layoff will have a greater impact on him than Lopez. I don't know if a fighter his age can remain sharp without being active in competition.

It's not like Loma is old lol, he only turned 32 a few months ago. I don't think 32 is old for this generation of boxers. Pacquiao is in his 40s and still going strong.

You can bet your ass that Loma is still training like a beast in this period though, these guys never stop.

Lopez is the one most likely to sit around and waste time, since he probably hasn't developed the grit and determination that loma has had a decade longer to forge.

Maybe he is older but Loma is not old, yes, I agree with you because the way he fight, he looks really good and you can tell that he is training hard to be fully fit when fighting in the ring. I think we should stop using the age difference to see the advantage and disadvantage, Manny is a living legend, he is 40 but is beating fighters at their prime.

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July 29, 2020, 08:22:53 PM
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Promoter Bob Arum has informed BoxingScene.com that it is still possible that the Vasiliy Lomachenko-Teofimo López fight could be broadcast live on ESPN.

Arum previously believed his expensive lightweight title unification fight was destined for ESPN Pay-Per-View on October 3, but the 88-year-old promoter is waiting for news from ESPN executives on how they will televise one of the most anticipated fights in the rest of the 2020 boxing calendar.

Lomachenko-Lopez may also be offered on ESPN +, the network's $ 5-a-month streaming service. If Lomachenko-Lopez heads up a pay-per-view program, it would probably cost at least $ 75 to watch in HD.

https://www.boxingscene.com/arum-lomachenko-lopez-air-on-espn-not-necessarily-pay-per-view--150522

For some people, the cost would not be too high to PPV for a stellar fight, the most anticipated and in HD. Therefore, the transmission costs, boxers, technicians and staff it could generate the desired income at this time from Covid19. Only they know how to make it possible.

If the fight was PPV I would ask myself.
How much would it cost me to see some of my favorite events? In addition to being safe at home with my family.


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July 31, 2020, 11:56:16 AM
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Promoter Bob Arum has informed BoxingScene.com that it is still possible that the Vasiliy Lomachenko-Teofimo López fight could be broadcast live on ESPN.

Arum previously believed his expensive lightweight title unification fight was destined for ESPN Pay-Per-View on October 3, but the 88-year-old promoter is waiting for news from ESPN executives on how they will televise one of the most anticipated fights in the rest of the 2020 boxing calendar.

Lomachenko-Lopez may also be offered on ESPN +, the network's $ 5-a-month streaming service. If Lomachenko-Lopez heads up a pay-per-view program, it would probably cost at least $ 75 to watch in HD.

https://www.boxingscene.com/arum-lomachenko-lopez-air-on-espn-not-necessarily-pay-per-view--150522

For some people, the cost would not be too high to PPV for a stellar fight, the most anticipated and in HD. Therefore, the transmission costs, boxers, technicians and staff it could generate the desired income at this time from Covid19. Only they know how to make it possible.

If the fight was PPV I would ask myself.
How much would it cost me to see some of my favorite events? In addition to being safe at home with my family.



I would be okay with the cost though, that is reasonable, even before the pandemic, there are PPV access that cost $100, so this one is still reasonable considering Lomachenko is an entertaining fighter.

Manny vs Thurma's PPV was 74.99 usd.

MANNY PACQUIAO VS. KEITH THURMAN: HOW TO WATCH, START TIME, ODDS AND MORE | FOX PPV
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Channel: The main card will be available exclusively on FOX Sports Pay-Per-View for $74.99. You can click here to order the event and stream live on any of your devices, or check with your cable provider for details on how to order at home.
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July 31, 2020, 01:03:24 PM
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Promoter Bob Arum has informed BoxingScene.com that it is still possible that the Vasiliy Lomachenko-Teofimo López fight could be broadcast live on ESPN.

Arum previously believed his expensive lightweight title unification fight was destined for ESPN Pay-Per-View on October 3, but the 88-year-old promoter is waiting for news from ESPN executives on how they will televise one of the most anticipated fights in the rest of the 2020 boxing calendar.

Lomachenko-Lopez may also be offered on ESPN +, the network's $ 5-a-month streaming service. If Lomachenko-Lopez heads up a pay-per-view program, it would probably cost at least $ 75 to watch in HD.

https://www.boxingscene.com/arum-lomachenko-lopez-air-on-espn-not-necessarily-pay-per-view--150522

For some people, the cost would not be too high to PPV for a stellar fight, the most anticipated and in HD. Therefore, the transmission costs, boxers, technicians and staff it could generate the desired income at this time from Covid19. Only they know how to make it possible.

If the fight was PPV I would ask myself.
How much would it cost me to see some of my favorite events? In addition to being safe at home with my family.



I would be okay with the cost though, that is reasonable, even before the pandemic, there are PPV access that cost $100, so this one is still reasonable considering Lomachenko is an entertaining fighter.

Manny vs Thurma's PPV was 74.99 usd.

MANNY PACQUIAO VS. KEITH THURMAN: HOW TO WATCH, START TIME, ODDS AND MORE | FOX PPV
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Channel: The main card will be available exclusively on FOX Sports Pay-Per-View for $74.99. You can click here to order the event and stream live on any of your devices, or check with your cable provider for details on how to order at home.

He deserve that price for PPV, he is currently the king of pound for pound.

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/28785006/pound-pound-rankings-tyson-fury-makes-debut

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July 31, 2020, 07:31:17 PM
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I don't think anybody is going to pay anywhere near $75 to watch Lomachenko fight, come on now.

Yes, he's one of the great to ever lace up the boots, but he's definitely not much of a superstar. A lot of boxing fans haven't even heard of him, because the heavyweight category is where all the money is at.

In the lighter categories, pretty much Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao are the only ones that managed to successfully pull in $75-$100 PPVs.

I really wouldn't count on Lomachenko or Lomez pulling in anywhere near those numbers—lockdown or not! I think we'll be looking at closer to $25-$30 in order to appeal to as many people as possible, that's if it's not streamed through some sort of promotional offer.

I personally wouldn't pay more than $30 for this fight, unless the undercard is absolutely stacked.
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July 31, 2020, 11:02:51 PM
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I don't think anybody is going to pay anywhere near $75 to watch Lomachenko fight, come on now.

Yes, he's one of the great to ever lace up the boots, but he's definitely not much of a superstar. A lot of boxing fans haven't even heard of him, because the heavyweight category is where all the money is at.

In the lighter categories, pretty much Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao are the only ones that managed to successfully pull in $75-$100 PPVs.

I really wouldn't count on Lomachenko or Lomez pulling in anywhere near those numbers—lockdown or not! I think we'll be looking at closer to $25-$30 in order to appeal to as many people as possible, that's if it's not streamed through some sort of promotional offer.

I personally wouldn't pay more than $30 for this fight, unless the undercard is absolutely stacked.

I guess we have different opinion, of course, for some it's not reasonable but I think before they came out with that price, they have already evaluated how the people will react and how they are gonna come up to make this fight successful. Please remember that the fight does not have a gate entrance which is where big portion of their revenue is really coming, so I guess they have a reason to sell the PPV at a higher price if we are thinking the price is just high.

Well, for some, they might just watch an illegal streaming so it won't matter to them.

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August 01, 2020, 02:48:29 AM
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I don't think anybody is going to pay anywhere near $75 to watch Lomachenko fight, come on now.

We can't really tell.

Yes, he's one of the great to ever lace up the boots, but he's definitely not much of a superstar. A lot of boxing fans haven't even heard of him, because the heavyweight category is where all the money is at.

That's why he is selling, one of the greatest amateur to lace up the gloves and then continue his success to the pro ranks, winning belts in his 2nd fight, if I'm not mistaken.

In the lighter categories, pretty much Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao are the only ones that managed to successfully pull in $75-$100 PPVs.

I think you mean 147 lbs? of course, welterweights division the main division in boxing.

I really wouldn't count on Lomachenko or Lomez pulling in anywhere near those numbers—lockdown or not! I think we'll be looking at closer to $25-$30 in order to appeal to as many people as possible, that's if it's not streamed through some sort of promotional offer.

I personally wouldn't pay more than $30 for this fight, unless the undercard is absolutely stacked.

Maybe there are hard core boxing fans who are willing to pay that much just to see Loma's greatness again and then some casual fans.

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I don't think anybody is going to pay anywhere near $75 to watch Lomachenko fight, come on now.

Yes, he's one of the great to ever lace up the boots, but he's definitely not much of a superstar. A lot of boxing fans haven't even heard of him, because the heavyweight category is where all the money is at.

In the lighter categories, pretty much Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao are the only ones that managed to successfully pull in $75-$100 PPVs.

I really wouldn't count on Lomachenko or Lomez pulling in anywhere near those numbers—lockdown or not! I think we'll be looking at closer to $25-$30 in order to appeal to as many people as possible, that's if it's not streamed through some sort of promotional offer.

I personally wouldn't pay more than $30 for this fight, unless the undercard is absolutely stacked.

I guess we have different opinion, of course, for some it's not reasonable but I think before they came out with that price, they have already evaluated how the people will react and how they are gonna come up to make this fight successful. Please remember that the fight does not have a gate entrance which is where big portion of their revenue is really coming, so I guess they have a reason to sell the PPV at a higher price if we are thinking the price is just high.

Well, for some, they might just watch an illegal streaming so it won't matter to them.
I agree with what you said here, they might not be worth $75, but this are two highly level boxers at the lower weight division and they should deserved what PPV the other boxers in the higher weight class is being paid. Yes, I'm sure that there are people going to stream this one in facebook, but still worth every penny if you buy the PPV and watch it with your friends around specially that we are in the pandemic.

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August 01, 2020, 12:50:31 PM
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I don't think anybody is going to pay anywhere near $75 to watch Lomachenko fight, come on now.

Yes, he's one of the great to ever lace up the boots, but he's definitely not much of a superstar. A lot of boxing fans haven't even heard of him, because the heavyweight category is where all the money is at.

In the lighter categories, pretty much Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao are the only ones that managed to successfully pull in $75-$100 PPVs.

I really wouldn't count on Lomachenko or Lomez pulling in anywhere near those numbers—lockdown or not! I think we'll be looking at closer to $25-$30 in order to appeal to as many people as possible, that's if it's not streamed through some sort of promotional offer.

I personally wouldn't pay more than $30 for this fight, unless the undercard is absolutely stacked.

I guess we have different opinion, of course, for some it's not reasonable but I think before they came out with that price, they have already evaluated how the people will react and how they are gonna come up to make this fight successful. Please remember that the fight does not have a gate entrance which is where big portion of their revenue is really coming, so I guess they have a reason to sell the PPV at a higher price if we are thinking the price is just high.

Well, for some, they might just watch an illegal streaming so it won't matter to them.
I agree with what you said here, they might not be worth $75, but this are two highly level boxers at the lower weight division and they should deserved what PPV the other boxers in the higher weight class is being paid. Yes, I'm sure that there are people going to stream this one in facebook, but still worth every penny if you buy the PPV and watch it with your friends around specially that we are in the pandemic.
I think the ticket or the cost to see this match is too expensive and if I have value as expensive as that will make many people think more when they want to watch maybe they prefer to watch the broadcast again on some streaming media.
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Teofimo López has rejected down an offer for $ 1.2 for the scheduled fight with Vasiliy Lomachenko on October 3 in Las Vegas. While Loma accepted $ 3.25. Fans agree that López receives more money because López could attract more fans from the US. Apparently, the fight will take place live. What comes out is that Loma received a higher offer due to his titles and career, while López's career is on the rise.

https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1288929383919620098?s=19

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Teofimo López has rejected down an offer for $ 1.2 for the scheduled fight with Vasiliy Lomachenko on October 3 in Las Vegas. While Loma accepted $ 3.25. Fans agree that López receives more money because López could attract more fans from the US. Apparently, the fight will take place live. What comes out is that Loma received a higher offer due to his titles and career, while López's career is on the rise.

https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1288929383919620098?s=19


Of course, Loma will received better deal because he is the A-side here. I don't know what Lopez is thinking, I'm sure this is the biggest payday of his career by $1.2 million is a decent amount to get when you are just starting to rise in boxing. You can simply get $2 million unless you are proven star already. This is win-win situation for him, otherwise he will look bad at this one if he decline that offer and he will definitely looks like bailing out and acting like a diva. And who will he fight next that can get him that money right now?
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August 01, 2020, 09:53:17 PM
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Teofimo López has rejected down an offer for $ 1.2 for the scheduled fight with Vasiliy Lomachenko on October 3 in Las Vegas. While Loma accepted $ 3.25. Fans agree that López receives more money because López could attract more fans from the US. Apparently, the fight will take place live. What comes out is that Loma received a higher offer due to his titles and career, while López's career is on the rise.

https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1288929383919620098?s=19


I think this is just a rumour, doesn't make sense that he is calling out Loma in his last win and totally bitching out because of the money put in the table? I agree that this is going to be the biggest pay of his career so why reject it? To be honest, he still does not have the name in the US, maybe in his hometown, but some casual boxing fans haven't heard of his name before. Not good for his image if he backs out of this deal and not pursue this fight and maybe he can't get a second fight to find Loma.

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August 01, 2020, 11:31:18 PM
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Teofimo López has rejected down an offer for $ 1.2 for the scheduled fight with Vasiliy Lomachenko on October 3 in Las Vegas. While Loma accepted $ 3.25. Fans agree that López receives more money because López could attract more fans from the US. Apparently, the fight will take place live. What comes out is that Loma received a higher offer due to his titles and career, while López's career is on the rise.

https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1288929383919620098?s=19


Of course, Loma will received better deal because he is the A-side here. I don't know what Lopez is thinking, I'm sure this is the biggest payday of his career by $1.2 million is a decent amount to get when you are just starting to rise in boxing. You can simply get $2 million unless you are proven star already. This is win-win situation for him, otherwise he will look bad at this one if he decline that offer and he will definitely looks like bailing out and acting like a diva. And who will he fight next that can get him that money right now?

I agree with you, Teofimo Lopez should not reject the $ 1.2 million offer. C'mon dude is a big amount in my opinion, why Teofimo Lopez
playing like a star anyway. From this incident will reduce his popularity in the world of boxing in my opinion. Because Teofimo Lopez's
behavior was considered arrogant in the end, and he would also look bad if he did that.

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August 02, 2020, 01:29:42 AM
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What happened to Lopez posting this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj-mEMNwCw0

His main reason is that 1.2$ million is not enough to feed his family? WTF? Granted that he won't get the full paycheck because of taxes and some goes to his team (trainers, assistant trainers, cut man etc), but man, you are acting a bitch and surely his stocks will go down. He should take every advantage and opportunity here, IMHO.

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August 02, 2020, 12:29:58 PM
Last edit: August 02, 2020, 01:42:33 PM by freedomgo
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What happened to Lopez posting this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj-mEMNwCw0

His main reason is that 1.2$ million is not enough to feed his family? WTF? Granted that he won't get the full paycheck because of taxes and some goes to his team (trainers, assistant trainers, cut man etc), but man, you are acting a bitch and surely his stocks will go down. He should take every advantage and opportunity here, IMHO.

Maybe he realized that Loma is gonna nail him, so he want a big paycheck as this could be his last fight.
If I am him, I would not think of the money for now if I believe on myself, as winning against Loma will make him a big market in the future.

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August 02, 2020, 02:37:38 PM
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What happened to Lopez posting this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj-mEMNwCw0

His main reason is that 1.2$ million is not enough to feed his family? WTF? Granted that he won't get the full paycheck because of taxes and some goes to his team (trainers, assistant trainers, cut man etc), but man, you are acting a bitch and surely his stocks will go down. He should take every advantage and opportunity here, IMHO.

Maybe he realized that Loma is gonna nail him, so he want a big paycheck as this could be his last fight.
If I am him, I would not think of the money for now if I believe on myself, as winning against Loma will make him a big market in the future.

That amount is pretty much reasonable at the current situation, how can he demand a big paycheck if the only way to sell the fight is through PPV, he is even an underdog of this fight, so he is the one looking for a shot to bet a popular fighter. Lomachenko might nail him, lol.. but actually this guy Lopez is also legit, he is younger and it's understandable that he is listed as the dog since he is fight the number 1 pound of pound boxer.

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August 05, 2020, 08:29:25 AM
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His main reason is that 1.2$ million is not enough to feed his family? WTF? Granted that he won't get the full paycheck because of taxes and some goes to his team (trainers, assistant trainers, cut man etc), but man, you are acting a bitch and surely his stocks will go down. He should take every advantage and opportunity here, IMHO.
This will probably be his biggest pay day in his career as he is fighting Lomachenko who has a legendary status and there is nothing wrong in wanting more money to fight him. If you take into consideration a million dollars pay day is not that huge as he need to take care of the taxes and his management team and coaches as well as sparring partners and the remaining amount will not settle his life.
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August 05, 2020, 08:34:41 AM
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His main reason is that 1.2$ million is not enough to feed his family? WTF? Granted that he won't get the full paycheck because of taxes and some goes to his team (trainers, assistant trainers, cut man etc), but man, you are acting a bitch and surely his stocks will go down. He should take every advantage and opportunity here, IMHO.
This will probably be his biggest pay day in his career as he is fighting Lomachenko who has a legendary status and there is nothing wrong in wanting more money to fight him. If you take into consideration a million dollars pay day is not that huge as he need to take care of the taxes and his management team and coaches as well as sparring partners and the remaining amount will not settle his life.
I'm not sure if it is, but it seems like he is complaining with the amount, so definitely he is not satisfied with it and we can assume that it's not the biggest.

His net worth here https://trendcelebsnow.com/teofimo-lopez-net-worth/

He has an increasing net worth, in 2019 his NW is $1 Million - $5 Million (Approx.), so this year, it might have increase already so he is looking for a bigger paycheck. 

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