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September 22, 2020, 06:15:47 AM
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I admire Loma because he did not retaliate to the insults thrown on him by Lopez on social media, he just rather let his fist do the talking om the ring come October.

Yes, just like Manny, he do the talking in the ring and used his fist to shut the big mouths of their opponent. I think Lopez will later regret spewing all this insults.

That would not happen, there's no regret, Lopez is not a fool and he knows he is an underdog in this fight, can lose against Loma but if he can sell the fight better, he will get a good share of the revenue, that's what boxers do now, they fight for money, big money so I don't really believe a lot on what they say as for all we know it's just a marketing technique.

The split is already predetermined, Lopez is already guaranteed $ 1.x million, and there are no PPV here, that's why he was offered that big amount. Initially he has rejected it and Loma step up and agree to have his pay cut just to be able to salvage the fight. Of course, boxing now is business, trash talk and stuff, but most of the time, the fighters that is so loud mouth losses the fight, except perhaps for elite boxers such as Floyd Mayweather who can walk the walk and talk the talk.
So we can expect that Lopez will lose in this fight? Hmm... that's what most of us are thinking for sure, and that's why the odds for Lopez is so good if you are a believer of him. $1 million guaranteed money, I think I read a news in the past that he wasn't contented with the pay, correct me if I'm wrong.

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September 22, 2020, 07:34:14 AM
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I admire Loma because he did not retaliate to the insults thrown on him by Lopez on social media, he just rather let his fist do the talking om the ring come October.

Yes, just like Manny, he do the talking in the ring and used his fist to shut the big mouths of their opponent. I think Lopez will later regret spewing all this insults.

That would not happen, there's no regret, Lopez is not a fool and he knows he is an underdog in this fight, can lose against Loma but if he can sell the fight better, he will get a good share of the revenue, that's what boxers do now, they fight for money, big money so I don't really believe a lot on what they say as for all we know it's just a marketing technique.

The split is already predetermined, Lopez is already guaranteed $ 1.x million, and there are no PPV here, that's why he was offered that big amount. Initially he has rejected it and Loma step up and agree to have his pay cut just to be able to salvage the fight. Of course, boxing now is business, trash talk and stuff, but most of the time, the fighters that is so loud mouth losses the fight, except perhaps for elite boxers such as Floyd Mayweather who can walk the walk and talk the talk.
So we can expect that Lopez will lose in this fight? Hmm... that's what most of us are thinking for sure, and that's why the odds for Lopez is so good if you are a believer of him. $1 million guaranteed money, I think I read a news in the past that he wasn't contented with the pay, correct me if I'm wrong.
if he says he is not satisfied with the pay but I think there is no way he will miss that much pay in a pandemic like this which requires a lot of money and is very difficult to get money again, at least someone is still able to pay him with such a nominal amount which is very good .

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September 22, 2020, 08:08:23 AM
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So we can expect that Lopez will lose in this fight? Hmm... that's what most of us are thinking for sure, and that's why the odds for Lopez is so good if you are a believer of him. $1 million guaranteed money, I think I read a news in the past that he wasn't contented with the pay, correct me if I'm wrong.

If he can beat Lomachenko then he can ask a big amount of money $1 million is already a lot of money he is not a superstar to ask for a bigger paycheck, he must best Lomachenko and everything will follow, fame fortune money and that is if he beat Lomachecko, who is the real superstar here.

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September 22, 2020, 10:33:14 AM
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I admire Loma because he did not retaliate to the insults thrown on him by Lopez on social media, he just rather let his fist do the talking om the ring come October.

Yes, just like Manny, he do the talking in the ring and used his fist to shut the big mouths of their opponent. I think Lopez will later regret spewing all this insults.

That would not happen, there's no regret, Lopez is not a fool and he knows he is an underdog in this fight, can lose against Loma but if he can sell the fight better, he will get a good share of the revenue, that's what boxers do now, they fight for money, big money so I don't really believe a lot on what they say as for all we know it's just a marketing technique.

The split is already predetermined, Lopez is already guaranteed $ 1.x million, and there are no PPV here, that's why he was offered that big amount. Initially he has rejected it and Loma step up and agree to have his pay cut just to be able to salvage the fight. Of course, boxing now is business, trash talk and stuff, but most of the time, the fighters that is so loud mouth losses the fight, except perhaps for elite boxers such as Floyd Mayweather who can walk the walk and talk the talk.
So we can expect that Lopez will lose in this fight? Hmm... that's what most of us are thinking for sure, and that's why the odds for Lopez is so good if you are a believer of him. $1 million guaranteed money, I think I read a news in the past that he wasn't contented with the pay, correct me if I'm wrong.

If we look at the poll, yes most of the users here are thinking that Loma will prevail on this fight but if you are a Lopez believer then chances are that you will win big as Lopez had a very good odds for this one. Lopez' guaranteed purse rose to $1.5 million when Loma agreed to a pay cut to salvage the fight from cancellation.

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September 22, 2020, 11:23:39 AM
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So we can expect that Lopez will lose in this fight? Hmm... that's what most of us are thinking for sure, and that's why the odds for Lopez is so good if you are a believer of him. $1 million guaranteed money, I think I read a news in the past that he wasn't contented with the pay, correct me if I'm wrong.

If he can beat Lomachenko then he can ask a big amount of money $1 million is already a lot of money he is not a superstar to ask for a bigger paycheck, he must best Lomachenko and everything will follow, fame fortune money and that is if he beat Lomachecko, who is the real superstar here.

That should be his goal here, but the guy who is talking a lot may not talk in the ring and we might see another stellar win from Lomachenko. A million dollar paycheck during the pandemic, I think that's a huge amount already as not everyone now are willing to spend.

and yeah... everything will follow, but there's an "IF".... and that's the hardest thing to do against an undefeated fighter.

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September 22, 2020, 12:02:41 PM
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The split is already predetermined, Lopez is already guaranteed $ 1.x million, and there are no PPV here, that's why he was offered that big amount. Initially he has rejected it and Loma step up and agree to have his pay cut just to be able to salvage the fight. Of course, boxing now is business, trash talk and stuff, but most of the time, the fighters that is so loud mouth losses the fight, except perhaps for elite boxers such as Floyd Mayweather who can walk the walk and talk the talk.

Lomachenko is not fighting for money, he just want to kick Lopez's ass right away when they stepped in the ring. Now that Lomachenko has already sacrifice some grand just to make this fight happened, I'm pretty sure that we will gonna see some all out war from him. This is some serious match right here, I wonder if he can really make a red mark to Lopez's record.

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September 22, 2020, 08:02:18 PM
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The split is already predetermined, Lopez is already guaranteed $ 1.x million, and there are no PPV here, that's why he was offered that big amount. Initially he has rejected it and Loma step up and agree to have his pay cut just to be able to salvage the fight. Of course, boxing now is business, trash talk and stuff, but most of the time, the fighters that is so loud mouth losses the fight, except perhaps for elite boxers such as Floyd Mayweather who can walk the walk and talk the talk.

Lomachenko is not fighting for money, he just want to kick Lopez's ass right away when they stepped in the ring. Now that Lomachenko has already sacrifice some grand just to make this fight happened, I'm pretty sure that we will gonna see some all out war from him. This is some serious match right here, I wonder if he can really make a red mark to Lopez's record.

Of course he's fighting for money, otherwise he would just beat whichever bum comes his way, including the dozens of top 50 guys that would love to get in the ring with him.

I've seen plenty of Lomachenko's fights fall through because they couldn't come to terms on pay grade.

I don't think Loma should take a pay cut just to ensure Lopez's purse though, that's beta AF. I guess it must have been the only high paying fight that was possible to make.
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The split is already predetermined, Lopez is already guaranteed $ 1.x million, and there are no PPV here, that's why he was offered that big amount. Initially he has rejected it and Loma step up and agree to have his pay cut just to be able to salvage the fight. Of course, boxing now is business, trash talk and stuff, but most of the time, the fighters that is so loud mouth losses the fight, except perhaps for elite boxers such as Floyd Mayweather who can walk the walk and talk the talk.

Lomachenko is not fighting for money, he just want to kick Lopez's ass right away when they stepped in the ring. Now that Lomachenko has already sacrifice some grand just to make this fight happened, I'm pretty sure that we will gonna see some all out war from him. This is some serious match right here, I wonder if he can really make a red mark to Lopez's record.

He got the lion share of the split, so obviously Loma is fighting for the money. Boxing is a business now, did you hear that this fight didn't almost push through because Lopez demanded for money? So everyone is really looking for the money fight in boxing. Forget about fighters who says that they just want glory or something, boxing is one way to get someone become millionaire, example our very own Manny Pacquaio, it is a game changer, because it is career like any "professional" sports out there. Professional meaning you are getting paid big money.

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September 23, 2020, 03:14:53 AM
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The split is already predetermined, Lopez is already guaranteed $ 1.x million, and there are no PPV here, that's why he was offered that big amount. Initially he has rejected it and Loma step up and agree to have his pay cut just to be able to salvage the fight. Of course, boxing now is business, trash talk and stuff, but most of the time, the fighters that is so loud mouth losses the fight, except perhaps for elite boxers such as Floyd Mayweather who can walk the walk and talk the talk.

Lomachenko is not fighting for money, he just want to kick Lopez's ass right away when they stepped in the ring. Now that Lomachenko has already sacrifice some grand just to make this fight happened, I'm pretty sure that we will gonna see some all out war from him. This is some serious match right here, I wonder if he can really make a red mark to Lopez's record.

He got the lion share of the split, so obviously Loma is fighting for the money. Boxing is a business now, did you hear that this fight didn't almost push through because Lopez demanded for money? So everyone is really looking for the money fight in boxing. Forget about fighters who says that they just want glory or something, boxing is one way to get someone become millionaire, example our very own Manny Pacquaio, it is a game changer, because it is career like any "professional" sports out there. Professional meaning you are getting paid big money.

There are boxers like that, like Mayweather and Marquez, they will get a good payday if they will give pacman a fight but they would not respond as for sure they want to protect their legacy.

Check this out :

Marquez rejected $100 million for fifth Pacquiao fight.

While the Mayweather vs Manny rematch, we already know how much they will potentially make, but no answer for Money.

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There are boxers like that, like Mayweather and Marquez, they will get a good payday if they will give pacman a fight but they would not respond as for sure they want to protect their legacy.

Check this out :

Marquez rejected $100 million for fifth Pacquiao fight.

While the Mayweather vs Manny rematch, we already know how much they will potentially make, but no answer for Money.
Because most of these boxers are already rich and had already invested from their earnings in their boxing careers. 100M $ is not important to them what is good now is to avoid getting a bad reputation after retiring in boxing fight. Marquez is an example of this and he just wanted to fight Manny Pacquiao before because he can retire having bad reputation. Now that he beat pacquiao and knock out in their last fight his reputations become good. However, Manny Pacquiao after the loss still one of the hall of famer not because he was knock out in the last fight with Marquez that could bring down his reputation but through his achievement that manage to champion in 8 different weight divisions of boxing that made him the hall of famer in boxing.
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There are boxers like that, like Mayweather and Marquez, they will get a good payday if they will give pacman a fight but they would not respond as for sure they want to protect their legacy.

Check this out :

Marquez rejected $100 million for fifth Pacquiao fight.

While the Mayweather vs Manny rematch, we already know how much they will potentially make, but no answer for Money.
Because most of these boxers are already rich and had already invested from their earnings in their boxing careers. 100M $ is not important to them what is good now is to avoid getting a bad reputation after retiring in boxing fight. Marquez is an example of this and he just wanted to fight Manny Pacquiao before because he can retire having bad reputation. Now that he beat pacquiao and knock out in their last fight his reputations become good. However, Manny Pacquiao after the loss still one of the hall of famer not because he was knock out in the last fight with Marquez that could bring down his reputation but through his achievement that manage to champion in 8 different weight divisions of boxing that made him the hall of famer in boxing.

Then why Manny is still fighting? he is richer than Marquez for sure, and had a lot of businesses and investments as well. I can only think that Marquez here value's his legacy as the win against Manny wasn't really convincing, some called it a lucky punch but with respect to him, let's not think that way. lol

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There are boxers like that, like Mayweather and Marquez, they will get a good payday if they will give pacman a fight but they would not respond as for sure they want to protect their legacy.

Check this out :

Marquez rejected $100 million for fifth Pacquiao fight.

While the Mayweather vs Manny rematch, we already know how much they will potentially make, but no answer for Money.
Because most of these boxers are already rich and had already invested from their earnings in their boxing careers. 100M $ is not important to them what is good now is to avoid getting a bad reputation after retiring in boxing fight. Marquez is an example of this and he just wanted to fight Manny Pacquiao before because he can retire having bad reputation. Now that he beat pacquiao and knock out in their last fight his reputations become good. However, Manny Pacquiao after the loss still one of the hall of famer not because he was knock out in the last fight with Marquez that could bring down his reputation but through his achievement that manage to champion in 8 different weight divisions of boxing that made him the hall of famer in boxing.

Then why Manny is still fighting? he is richer than Marquez for sure, and had a lot of businesses and investments as well.
Manny is just exceptional, that's why we call him the living legend, he is still fighting because he can beat a younger champion and he has proven that in the fight against Thurman. If marquez will come back to fight Manny, I'm afraid there will be a series of fight after that.

Let Marquez retire and believe what he wants to believe, still we can't deny that Manny is the better fighter in overall.


I can only think that Marquez here value's his legacy as the win against Manny wasn't really convincing, some called it a lucky punch but with respect to him, let's not think that way. lol

of course that's what he wants to protect the fact that he doesn't want to fight Manny anymore.

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September 28, 2020, 10:25:26 PM
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The split is already predetermined, Lopez is already guaranteed $ 1.x million, and there are no PPV here, that's why he was offered that big amount. Initially he has rejected it and Loma step up and agree to have his pay cut just to be able to salvage the fight. Of course, boxing now is business, trash talk and stuff, but most of the time, the fighters that is so loud mouth losses the fight, except perhaps for elite boxers such as Floyd Mayweather who can walk the walk and talk the talk.

Lomachenko is not fighting for money, he just want to kick Lopez's ass right away when they stepped in the ring. Now that Lomachenko has already sacrifice some grand just to make this fight happened, I'm pretty sure that we will gonna see some all out war from him. This is some serious match right here, I wonder if he can really make a red mark to Lopez's record.

He got the lion share of the split, so obviously Loma is fighting for the money. Boxing is a business now, did you hear that this fight didn't almost push through because Lopez demanded for money? So everyone is really looking for the money fight in boxing. Forget about fighters who says that they just want glory or something, boxing is one way to get someone become millionaire, example our very own Manny Pacquaio, it is a game changer, because it is career like any "professional" sports out there. Professional meaning you are getting paid big money.

There are boxers like that, like Mayweather and Marquez, they will get a good payday if they will give pacman a fight but they would not respond as for sure they want to protect their legacy.

Check this out :

Marquez rejected $100 million for fifth Pacquiao fight.

While the Mayweather vs Manny rematch, we already know how much they will potentially make, but no answer for Money.

But Floyd chooses an easy way out, fighting Conor for the same money that he could get fighting Manny Pacquiao. Which he did, as the fight was the biggest PPV in sporting history, eclipsing his first fight against Manny.

For Marquez, he really knows the score, he got lucky.  Smiley



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September 29, 2020, 05:00:15 AM
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Since this fight is just over two weeks ago, I check what the current odds are in Sportsbet:



Very attractive odds for Teo Lopez here, but it's hard to go against Loma as he is the more versatile of the two and Lopez is very young so I'm not seeing any upset here. Loma is too good, it might not go to the judges scorecard if Loma breaks down Teo. But for those who love underdogs, at least 1 mbtc won't hurt our pockets on Teo.

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There are boxers like that, like Mayweather and Marquez, they will get a good payday if they will give pacman a fight but they would not respond as for sure they want to protect their legacy.

Check this out :

Marquez rejected $100 million for fifth Pacquiao fight.

While the Mayweather vs Manny rematch, we already know how much they will potentially make, but no answer for Money.
Because most of these boxers are already rich and had already invested from their earnings in their boxing careers. 100M $ is not important to them what is good now is to avoid getting a bad reputation after retiring in boxing fight. Marquez is an example of this and he just wanted to fight Manny Pacquiao before because he can retire having bad reputation. Now that he beat pacquiao and knock out in their last fight his reputations become good. However, Manny Pacquiao after the loss still one of the hall of famer not because he was knock out in the last fight with Marquez that could bring down his reputation but through his achievement that manage to champion in 8 different weight divisions of boxing that made him the hall of famer in boxing.

Then why Manny is still fighting? he is richer than Marquez for sure, and had a lot of businesses and investments as well. I can only think that Marquez here value's his legacy as the win against Manny wasn't really convincing, some called it a lucky punch but with respect to him, let's not think that way. lol
Manny PAcquiao is still fighting because of His Political dream,In boxing he stays popular and famous specially when He has a fight and more when he Won.

though His reason for this coming fight against Conor Mcgregor is for part of the winning will be donated for the Covid19 victim.









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September 29, 2020, 12:31:55 PM
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So we can expect that Lopez will lose in this fight? Hmm... that's what most of us are thinking for sure, and that's why the odds for Lopez is so good if you are a believer of him. $1 million guaranteed money, I think I read a news in the past that he wasn't contented with the pay, correct me if I'm wrong.

If he can beat Lomachenko then he can ask a big amount of money $1 million is already a lot of money he is not a superstar to ask for a bigger paycheck, he must best Lomachenko and everything will follow, fame fortune money and that is if he beat Lomachecko, who is the real superstar here.

He asked for big amount as his market in the future is at risk here, he is currently undefeated but some vouchers when their undefeated record is destroyed, they can't recover anymore, so that could be worth $1 million more or an opportunity destroyed by Lomachenko.

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So we can expect that Lopez will lose in this fight? Hmm... that's what most of us are thinking for sure, and that's why the odds for Lopez is so good if you are a believer of him. $1 million guaranteed money, I think I read a news in the past that he wasn't contented with the pay, correct me if I'm wrong.

If he can beat Lomachenko then he can ask a big amount of money $1 million is already a lot of money he is not a superstar to ask for a bigger paycheck, he must best Lomachenko and everything will follow, fame fortune money and that is if he beat Lomachecko, who is the real superstar here.

He asked for big amount as his market in the future is at risk here, he is currently undefeated but some vouchers when their undefeated record is destroyed, they can't recover anymore, so that could be worth $1 million more or an opportunity destroyed by Lomachenko.

which is correct, most of the time once you suffered defeats it's already hard to bounce back and bring your records. He's camp is thinking for the future they are staking against time in case Lomachenko destroyed Lopez totally.
The money will allow him to continue life just in case he won't get any good fight after this.
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So we can expect that Lopez will lose in this fight? Hmm... that's what most of us are thinking for sure, and that's why the odds for Lopez is so good if you are a believer of him. $1 million guaranteed money, I think I read a news in the past that he wasn't contented with the pay, correct me if I'm wrong.

If he can beat Lomachenko then he can ask a big amount of money $1 million is already a lot of money he is not a superstar to ask for a bigger paycheck, he must best Lomachenko and everything will follow, fame fortune money and that is if he beat Lomachecko, who is the real superstar here.

He asked for big amount as his market in the future is at risk here, he is currently undefeated but some vouchers when their undefeated record is destroyed, they can't recover anymore, so that could be worth $1 million more or an opportunity destroyed by Lomachenko.

which is correct, most of the time once you suffered defeats it's already hard to bounce back and bring your records. He's camp is thinking for the future they are staking against time in case Lomachenko destroyed Lopez totally.
The money will allow him to continue life just in case he won't get any good fight after this.

I don't think that if ever Lopez will lose in this fight, his career is over. The kid is a good boxer and he is taunted to be the successor of Loma in this division. Losing is just part of the game and for sure they can bounce back if ever that would happen to them just like some of the big names on this sports. Lopez camp feels that they deserve for a bigger paychecks that's why they asked for it and fortunately for them Loma shared some slice of his pie to Lopez to make this fight possible.
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So we can expect that Lopez will lose in this fight? Hmm... that's what most of us are thinking for sure, and that's why the odds for Lopez is so good if you are a believer of him. $1 million guaranteed money, I think I read a news in the past that he wasn't contented with the pay, correct me if I'm wrong.

If he can beat Lomachenko then he can ask a big amount of money $1 million is already a lot of money he is not a superstar to ask for a bigger paycheck, he must best Lomachenko and everything will follow, fame fortune money and that is if he beat Lomachecko, who is the real superstar here.

He asked for big amount as his market in the future is at risk here, he is currently undefeated but some vouchers when their undefeated record is destroyed, they can't recover anymore, so that could be worth $1 million more or an opportunity destroyed by Lomachenko.

which is correct, most of the time once you suffered defeats it's already hard to bounce back and bring your records. He's camp is thinking for the future they are staking against time in case Lomachenko destroyed Lopez totally.
The money will allow him to continue life just in case he won't get any good fight after this.

I don't think that if ever Lopez will lose in this fight, his career is over. The kid is a good boxer and he is taunted to be the successor of Loma in this division. Losing is just part of the game and for sure they can bounce back if ever that would happen to them just like some of the big names on this sports. Lopez camp feels that they deserve for a bigger paychecks that's why they asked for it and fortunately for them Loma shared some slice of his pie to Lopez to make this fight possible.

Agree with that, as long as he can still fight even if let's say he will lose against Loma, he still have a chance to come back since he is still young. If an old boxer could come back like Pacman when he lose against Marquez or even Horn, then this young boxer has a big chance.

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October 01, 2020, 10:22:27 PM
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This is what Loma has to say about Lopez trash-talking:

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“In my country, if you insult somebody, you’d better be prepared for them to hurt you. If we were in my country, he’d learn pretty quick he can’t run his mouth,” said Lomachenko. “If I get a chance to cause him pain, I’m going to do it.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/lomachenko-lopez-talks-too-much-if-you-insult-me-prepare-pain--152134

We might see another Conor vs Khabib beatdown here. When a outspoken fighter such as Loma talks about causing pain to Lopez, expect that he will really go for it. We might see Lopez quitting in his stool here, Lol.

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