[Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Teofimo Lopez Lightweight Unification fight - October 17

[bisdak40]

The fight is going to be exciting since these two will fight for the unification title. Have you guys seen the new trailer on YouTube by TopRank Boxing? Lomachenko wanted to own the three belts for himself and I think he has the advantage for this fight if he won't gonna mess up in the ring when the fight begins.

Teofimo is good and I'm sure he will challenge Lomachenko but I don' think he's at Loma's level. Let's see how this plays out, my bet is on Loma.

That's what the rest of the fighters Loma has face before, they think that they have a good chance to win, however, inside the boxing arena, Loma just played with them and made them quit.

Nicolas Walters was undefeated when he fought Loma, - he quit
Jason Sosa with 1 lost - he quit
Marriaga with 2 lost - he quit
Rigondeaux 0 lost - he quit

Lomachenco vs Rigondeaux is the fight i'm most amazed on the talent of Loma. Donaire lost to Rigondeaux because the former can't get a clean shot as Rigondeaux was always running away from him but Loma destroyed Rigondeaux with ease lol.

@Baofeng, that 1.20 odds will go further south one day before the fight so better pull the trigger now lol.

[suzanne5223]

The fight is going to be exciting since these two will fight for the unification title. Have you guys seen the new trailer on YouTube by TopRank Boxing? Lomachenko wanted to own the three belts for himself and I think he has the advantage for this fight if he won't gonna mess up in the ring when the fight begins.

I think Lomachenko is right in thinking that he got the match in the 'bag', he is going to win. The reason I say this is because I have seen him fight, I've seen his style and there's no way he's going to lose. He's known as the best in his weight division. That's what sparks my opinion on the outcome of this match.

Teofimo is good and I'm sure he will challenge Lomachenko but I don' think he's at Loma's level. Let's see how this plays out, my bet is on Loma.

I respect your belief about Lomachenko words to have the fight in the bag but you of all people should know that boxing fight is not won by statements which are hype base and I did some research about sports professional these days some of them seems to be affected by the COVID 19 issues reason which i guess was lack of proper training or the quarantine make them partake in some activities they ought to desist.

On the contrary though, the covid-19 effect could have a positive impact to fighters as they are isolated and could train really hard for their upcoming fights? But I do agree that Lopez has chance to win, we have seen fights in the past wherein it was in the last round that a fighter change the outcome of the game. However though, boxing fans sees Lomachenko technical abilities superior to Lopez, that's why a one sided fight in favor of Lomachenko is anticipated.

I agree with what you said but I only dont agree with the aspect of the conclusion about the fight that's yet to kick-off and from my own point of  view despite all technical abilities of Loma, Lopez also has the chance of winning the fight until the fight come to an end.

[Baofeng]

The fight is going to be exciting since these two will fight for the unification title. Have you guys seen the new trailer on YouTube by TopRank Boxing? Lomachenko wanted to own the three belts for himself and I think he has the advantage for this fight if he won't gonna mess up in the ring when the fight begins.

Teofimo is good and I'm sure he will challenge Lomachenko but I don' think he's at Loma's level. Let's see how this plays out, my bet is on Loma.

That's what the rest of the fighters Loma has face before, they think that they have a good chance to win, however, inside the boxing arena, Loma just played with them and made them quit.

Nicolas Walters was undefeated when he fought Loma, - he quit
Jason Sosa with 1 lost - he quit
Marriaga with 2 lost - he quit
Rigondeaux 0 lost - he quit

Lomachenco vs Rigondeaux is the fight i'm most amazed on the talent of Loma. Donaire lost to Rigondeaux because the former can't get a clean shot as Rigondeaux was always running away from him but Loma destroyed Rigondeaux with ease lol.

@Baofeng, that 1.20 odds will go further south one day before the fight so better pull the trigger now lol.

Yes, Loma vs Rigo was one of the most hype and anticipated fight (at least for me) because it pitted two of the best Olympians that move up to professional boxer. However, it didn't live up to the hype as the fight is boring and one sided beating coming from the hands of Loma, it's not even close and then Rigo was frustrated and just quit.

As for the odds, yeah, maybe @1.17-@1.19 during fight night, I'm still inclined to pull the trigger though, lol.

[Yaunfitda]

The fight is going to be exciting since these two will fight for the unification title. Have you guys seen the new trailer on YouTube by TopRank Boxing? Lomachenko wanted to own the three belts for himself and I think he has the advantage for this fight if he won't gonna mess up in the ring when the fight begins.

I think Lomachenko is right in thinking that he got the match in the 'bag', he is going to win. The reason I say this is because I have seen him fight, I've seen his style and there's no way he's going to lose. He's known as the best in his weight division. That's what sparks my opinion on the outcome of this match.

Teofimo is good and I'm sure he will challenge Lomachenko but I don' think he's at Loma's level. Let's see how this plays out, my bet is on Loma.

I respect your belief about Lomachenko words to have the fight in the bag but you of all people should know that boxing fight is not won by statements which are hype base and I did some research about sports professional these days some of them seems to be affected by the COVID 19 issues reason which i guess was lack of proper training or the quarantine make them partake in some activities they ought to desist.

On the contrary though, the covid-19 effect could have a positive impact to fighters as they are isolated and could train really hard for their upcoming fights? But I do agree that Lopez has chance to win, we have seen fights in the past wherein it was in the last round that a fighter change the outcome of the game. However though, boxing fans sees Lomachenko technical abilities superior to Lopez, that's why a one sided fight in favor of Lomachenko is anticipated.

I agree with what you said but I only dont agree with the aspect of the conclusion about the fight that's yet to kick-off and from my own point of  view despite all technical abilities of Loma, Lopez also has the chance of winning the fight until the fight come to an end.

Definitely, Lopez has chance, perhaps the opinion is coming from Loma's past performance on how he dismantle his opponents not just physically but mentally as well (big advantage, imo), making them say no mas to him. Anyway, the fight is just a couple of weeks from now, there could be some disagreements, but it will be eventually settled in the ring, and obviously Lopez is the underdog in this fight.

[Botnake]

Definitely, Lopez has chance, perhaps the opinion is coming from Loma's past performance on how he dismantle his opponents not just physically but mentally as well (big advantage, imo), making them say no mas to him.

Based on the betting odds, Loma is expected to win this fight, Lopez chance is only small but we won't know what would happen, so let's just continue speculating and enjoy watching this fight, with our bets of course.

Anyway, the fight is just a couple of weeks from now, there could be some disagreements, but it will be eventually settled in the ring, and obviously Lopez is the underdog in this fight.

Probably one of the best fights in boxing this pandemic, both are good fighters, have an aggressive style, so definitely it will entertain the crowd in their respective home.

[Kemarit]

Anyway, the fight is just a couple of weeks from now, there could be some disagreements, but it will be eventually settled in the ring, and obviously Lopez is the underdog in this fight.

Probably one of the best fights in boxing this pandemic, both are good fighters, have an aggressive style, so definitely it will entertain the crowd in their respective home.

Yes, this could be the best fights in paper in this pandemic specially in the lower division and then probably next is Davis vs Sta Cruz. Stylistically, they are also match, aggressive one and young fighter in Lopez and the underdog who wants to proved his worth, and then the tactician and pound 4 pound right now.

So I'm seeing Lopez really coming early being aggressive and testing Loma, first 3 rounds will be a epic, but I think after that Loma will take over the fight and dominate the next rounds and win.

[Ziskinberg]

Anyway, the fight is just a couple of weeks from now, there could be some disagreements, but it will be eventually settled in the ring, and obviously Lopez is the underdog in this fight.

Probably one of the best fights in boxing this pandemic, both are good fighters, have an aggressive style, so definitely it will entertain the crowd in their respective home.

Yes, this could be the best fights in paper in this pandemic specially in the lower division and then probably next is Davis vs Sta Cruz. Stylistically, they are also match, aggressive one and young fighter in Lopez and the underdog who wants to proved his worth, and then the tactician and pound 4 pound right now.

So I'm seeing Lopez really coming early being aggressive and testing Loma, first 3 rounds will be a epic, but I think after that Loma will take over the fight and dominate the next rounds and win.

Lopez here is trying to beat the number 1 pound for pound, this is his ticket to success so he should it right and win impressively.

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/28785006/pound-pound-rankings-tyson-fury-makes-debut

Lopez not even in the top 10 but if he beats Loma, he will surely be listed among the greats of boxing.

[Jating]

I'd try to search for the latest video about this fight and this is what I got, from the Lopez camp, specifically from Lopez Sr.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRTAJIvnOxM

He is also talking trash and very confident that his son will beat Loma. And he is saying that the last 3 fights of Loma was all with a C-fighters. And he says that his son will break Loma, because Jr, is an intelligent fighter, but I think the betting public and the bookies thinks otherwise, as Loma is a 4-1 favourite.

He even questions the way Loma's father is training Vasily, it sound though that Lopez Sr is obviously an old school training.

[mirakal]

I'd try to search for the latest video about this fight and this is what I got, from the Lopez camp, specifically from Lopez Sr.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRTAJIvnOxM

He is also talking trash and very confident that his son will beat Loma. And he is saying that the last 3 fights of Loma was all with a C-fighters. And he says that his son will break Loma, because Jr, is an intelligent fighter, but I think the betting public and the bookies thinks otherwise, as Loma is a 4-1 favourite.

He even questions the way Loma's father is training Vasily, it sound though that Lopez Sr is obviously an old school training.

I'm beginning to like Teofimo Lopez camp's confidence, they will eat their trash in the ring as Loma though fighting C-fighters but he is still an A-Fighter who can beat an A-Fighter, Lopez should preserve that confidence in the ring, I don't want to see him  fighting with no confident left as he was already releasing it all before the fight.

[btc_angela]

I'd try to search for the latest video about this fight and this is what I got, from the Lopez camp, specifically from Lopez Sr.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRTAJIvnOxM

He is also talking trash and very confident that his son will beat Loma. And he is saying that the last 3 fights of Loma was all with a C-fighters. And he says that his son will break Loma, because Jr, is an intelligent fighter, but I think the betting public and the bookies thinks otherwise, as Loma is a 4-1 favourite.

He even questions the way Loma's father is training Vasily, it sound though that Lopez Sr is obviously an old school training.

I'm beginning to like Teofimo Lopez camp's confidence, they will eat their trash in the ring as Loma though fighting C-fighters but he is still an A-Fighter who can beat an A-Fighter, Lopez should preserve that confidence in the ring, I don't want to see him  fighting with no confident left as he was already releasing it all before the fight.

Just watch half of the video, but I completely stop, I mean his father is really looking very confident and that's scary when you talk like that. I mean, Loma has face a lot of great fighters and I wouldn't say the last 3 was C-fighters though, and it seems that I found some contradictory statements. They said that they are the one who chases Loma, but then almost back out when there is not enough money on the table? It's good that Loma is willing to have his pay cut just to accommodate them and have this fight continue. But if you are the one chasing, then regardless of the money being offered, you will take the fight.

[Fundamentals Of]

I'd try to search for the latest video about this fight and this is what I got, from the Lopez camp, specifically from Lopez Sr.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRTAJIvnOxM

He is also talking trash and very confident that his son will beat Loma. And he is saying that the last 3 fights of Loma was all with a C-fighters. And he says that his son will break Loma, because Jr, is an intelligent fighter, but I think the betting public and the bookies thinks otherwise, as Loma is a 4-1 favourite.

He even questions the way Loma's father is training Vasily, it sound though that Lopez Sr is obviously an old school training.

I'm beginning to like Teofimo Lopez camp's confidence, they will eat their trash in the ring as Loma though fighting C-fighters but he is still an A-Fighter who can beat an A-Fighter, Lopez should preserve that confidence in the ring, I don't want to see him  fighting with no confident left as he was already releasing it all before the fight.

This is normal trash talking. This is just the usual way to heat up the incoming fight at the same time to boost their team and their fighter. But this is not the kind of dirty trash talking that involves attacks on the personal aspects of their lives. I see no problem with this.

But the real odds will always come out into the surface because gamblers are very objective. This is the reason why the odds are even falling more from Lomachenko. The result must be very clear to many that Lomachenko is the better boxer overall.

[Baofeng]

I'd try to search for the latest video about this fight and this is what I got, from the Lopez camp, specifically from Lopez Sr.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRTAJIvnOxM

He is also talking trash and very confident that his son will beat Loma. And he is saying that the last 3 fights of Loma was all with a C-fighters. And he says that his son will break Loma, because Jr, is an intelligent fighter, but I think the betting public and the bookies thinks otherwise, as Loma is a 4-1 favourite.

He even questions the way Loma's father is training Vasily, it sound though that Lopez Sr is obviously an old school training.

I'm beginning to like Teofimo Lopez camp's confidence, they will eat their trash in the ring as Loma though fighting C-fighters but he is still an A-Fighter who can beat an A-Fighter, Lopez should preserve that confidence in the ring, I don't want to see him  fighting with no confident left as he was already releasing it all before the fight.

This is normal trash talking. This is just the usual way to heat up the incoming fight at the same time to boost their team and their fighter. But this is not the kind of dirty trash talking that involves attacks on the personal aspects of their lives. I see no problem with this.

But the real odds will always come out into the surface because gamblers are very objective. This is the reason why the odds are even falling more from Lomachenko. The result must be very clear to many that Lomachenko is the better boxer overall.

Yes, I agree, I would have to say that the father is the more trash talker than his son. Actually that is the case in manny father-son trainer-boxer combo in boxing. Just listen to Angel Garcia, father of Danny Garcia, or Floyd Sr. It's because they really believed on their son's ability and they will really high light and talk negative about their opponents, no matter who the fighter their son is going to face. And at the end of the day, only his son will step on the square canvass and he can't help him out. We will see, it's less than a week from now.

[stadus]

And at the end of the day, only his son will step on the square canvass and he can't help him out. We will see, it's less than a week from now.

Exactly, and they understand that for sure. The reason they are talking trash to their opponent is simply to sell the game, that strategy is very successful with Mayweather, talking trash to his opponent makes him earn more money, we should not fall for that but just study the fight and let our bet be in the right side.

I just want some confirmation, is the fight this coming October 17?
https://www.fightmag.com.au/2020/09/14/vasiliy-lomachenko-vs-teofimo-lopez-official-poster-released/

If so, maybe OP can add a date in the thread title so it will be a sort of reminder to us, don't wanna miss this game.

[freedomgo]

And at the end of the day, only his son will step on the square canvass and he can't help him out. We will see, it's less than a week from now.

Exactly, and they understand that for sure. The reason they are talking trash to their opponent is simply to sell the game, that strategy is very successful with Mayweather, talking trash to his opponent makes him earn more money, we should not fall for that but just study the fight and let our bet be in the right side.

I just want some confirmation, is the fight this coming October 17?
https://www.fightmag.com.au/2020/09/14/vasiliy-lomachenko-vs-teofimo-lopez-official-poster-released/

If so, maybe OP can add a date in the thread title so it will be a sort of reminder to us, don't wanna miss this game.

Yeah, that's what is written in one of the sportsbook I'm using, and I believe sportsbook won't publish a betting odds if the schedule is not final.

This is one sportsbook only, but I'm sure it's the same with others who have the same odds provider.
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/matchups/lomachenko-vasyl-lopez-teofimo-5f5e269338b1f4caf76b508a

[Jating]

I'd try to search for the latest video about this fight and this is what I got, from the Lopez camp, specifically from Lopez Sr.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRTAJIvnOxM

He is also talking trash and very confident that his son will beat Loma. And he is saying that the last 3 fights of Loma was all with a C-fighters. And he says that his son will break Loma, because Jr, is an intelligent fighter, but I think the betting public and the bookies thinks otherwise, as Loma is a 4-1 favourite.

He even questions the way Loma's father is training Vasily, it sound though that Lopez Sr is obviously an old school training.

I'm beginning to like Teofimo Lopez camp's confidence, they will eat their trash in the ring as Loma though fighting C-fighters but he is still an A-Fighter who can beat an A-Fighter, Lopez should preserve that confidence in the ring, I don't want to see him  fighting with no confident left as he was already releasing it all before the fight.

Who wouldn't like this kid? I mean he has all the wares and tools to be a good fighter? But sometimes too much talk really damage their reputation specially if they can't back it up? Specially against a good fighter like Loma. And sometimes this kind of fighter was not the same after the lost. They could have suffered mentally after a devastating lost and they make a fool of themselves with that thrash talk.

So I do hope that his father's mouth won't ruin him because he has a bright future. It's different with the fighter themselves talk big mouth, but when a father training gets involved emotionally, it come come back to haunt them.

[Fundamentals Of]

I'd try to search for the latest video about this fight and this is what I got, from the Lopez camp, specifically from Lopez Sr.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRTAJIvnOxM

He is also talking trash and very confident that his son will beat Loma. And he is saying that the last 3 fights of Loma was all with a C-fighters. And he says that his son will break Loma, because Jr, is an intelligent fighter, but I think the betting public and the bookies thinks otherwise, as Loma is a 4-1 favourite.

He even questions the way Loma's father is training Vasily, it sound though that Lopez Sr is obviously an old school training.

I'm beginning to like Teofimo Lopez camp's confidence, they will eat their trash in the ring as Loma though fighting C-fighters but he is still an A-Fighter who can beat an A-Fighter, Lopez should preserve that confidence in the ring, I don't want to see him  fighting with no confident left as he was already releasing it all before the fight.

This is normal trash talking. This is just the usual way to heat up the incoming fight at the same time to boost their team and their fighter. But this is not the kind of dirty trash talking that involves attacks on the personal aspects of their lives. I see no problem with this.

But the real odds will always come out into the surface because gamblers are very objective. This is the reason why the odds are even falling more from Lomachenko. The result must be very clear to many that Lomachenko is the better boxer overall.

Yes, I agree, I would have to say that the father is the more trash talker than his son. Actually that is the case in manny father-son trainer-boxer combo in boxing. Just listen to Angel Garcia, father of Danny Garcia, or Floyd Sr. It's because they really believed on their son's ability and they will really high light and talk negative about their opponents, no matter who the fighter their son is going to face. And at the end of the day, only his son will step on the square canvass and he can't help him out. We will see, it's less than a week from now.

This is actually the funny part in many promotion tours. Oftentimes the heaviest trash talkers are not really the fighters. It is either the fathers or the members of the team, sometimes the coach also. And sometimes they are the ones who also get into trouble. How many fathers are actually challenging each other for a fight in passionately promoting for their son's match? Lol. 

[yazher]

This is actually the funny part in many promotion tours. Oftentimes the heaviest trash talkers are not really the fighters. It is either the fathers or the members of the team, sometimes the coach also. And sometimes they are the ones who also get into trouble. How many fathers are actually challenging each other for a fight in passionately promoting for their son's match? Lol. 

That is because the two fighters are not good enough to taunt each other, they need their teams to make the fight exciting to watch. But this is just part of the marketing for the fans to look forward to the fight because, without this kind of sauce, the fight will not be exciting. Like what we have seen before the Thurman vs Pacquiao fight. Thurman trash talk Pacquiao to the point he calls him some names "T-Rex Arms" to be precise and people are cheering for Pacquiao to give Thurman some lesson and it happened. They need this kind of strategy before the fight to make it more exciting when it begins.

[Kemarit]

This is actually the funny part in many promotion tours. Oftentimes the heaviest trash talkers are not really the fighters. It is either the fathers or the members of the team, sometimes the coach also. And sometimes they are the ones who also get into trouble. How many fathers are actually challenging each other for a fight in passionately promoting for their son's match? Lol. 

That is because the two fighters are not good enough to taunt each other, they need their teams to make the fight exciting to watch. But this is just part of the marketing for the fans to look forward to the fight because, without this kind of sauce, the fight will not be exciting. Like what we have seen before the Thurman vs Pacquiao fight. Thurman trash talk Pacquiao to the point he calls him some names "T-Rex Arms" to be precise and people are cheering for Pacquiao to give Thurman some lesson and it happened. They need this kind of strategy before the fight to make it more exciting when it begins.

And to add to that, sometimes when a fighter faces someone, he has somewhat respects his opponent that's why there's no animosity and no bad mouthing. There is a diference between trash talking and attacking your opponents personality, i.e. like Conor against Khabib wherein for me Conor goes overboard, or Broner, saying some racist shit to Maidana and then he pay for it because he lost that fight very badly.

And then we have fighters who doesn't trash talk but just smile and do the job inside the ring. So yeah it's kinda funny when you hear the father or the trainer doing the promotion by trash talking the other side.

[bisdak40]

I just want some confirmation, is the fight this coming October 17?
https://www.fightmag.com.au/2020/09/14/vasiliy-lomachenko-vs-teofimo-lopez-official-poster-released/

If so, maybe OP can add a date in the thread title so it will be a sort of reminder to us, don't wanna miss this game.

Yup, this fight is  go on October 17 and it's a Sunday here in our country. Though we are a Pacman country but still many of us are excited of this upcoming fight of Loma as this guy is a beauty to watch if you are a hardcore fan of boxing.

Odds for Loma now back up to 1.22 on my favorite bookies, maybe some of Lopez' fan have already placed their bet.

BW, already updated the title and have put the date on it, hope it will help to remind some of us here and maybe i can put  link on where to watch the fight live on the coming days.

[TopTort777]

Lopez here is trying to beat the number 1 pound for pound, this is his ticket to success so he should it right and win impressively.

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/28785006/pound-pound-rankings-tyson-fury-makes-debut

Lopez not even in the top 10 but if he beats Loma, he will surely be listed among the greats of boxing.

Lopez would better spend more time at the gym or in sparings, instead of doing trash talk with his father against Lomachenko. Yes, Lopez is young, quick and hungry. Not all of his opponents were top level. As I see, only 3 out of 15 were among worlds top10. And not he states that "he will kill Lomachenko in two rounds". What a joker. Hope this Saturday the fight would last for all 12 rounds, 12 rounds of beating for trash talk.