PrimeNumber7 is an alt of Quickseller, Take 2

[suchmoon]

Yeah the part where you start the accusations, then refer to them later as if some one else started them. You then claim that prior accusations exist, you swear it, except you can't produce them.

I said that public accusations (yes, started by someone else) existed prior to this thread. I did produce examples. Which part of this are you disputing?

Both of which occurred AFTER your July 2nd 2019 accusation. As I said previously, you were the source of the accusation, a bunch of people who also hold grudges against Quickseller repeat it, you reference your own accusations as if they came from no where and are just accepted fact. This is basic "information laundering".

My neutral rating literally says "Likely a well-known scammer evading red trust." If you want to think that I masterminded some scheme with this Jedi mind trick by saying "scammer" and everyone thinking "Quickseller" - I can't stop you. Your penchant for conspiracy theories is well know as is your inability to be wrong. You might want to continue this in a reeeeeeeeeeeeee thread since this one is getting off rails.

If anyone else feels that me saying "The accusation was floating around for a long time and PN7 got red tagged before this thread even existed" was deceptive - I'm sorry. That was not my intent.

i didn't misquote or misorder anything, so the characterization as "fake" seems pretty dishonest. my post came before your entire exchange with TECSHARE and had nothing to do it. why would i include it, to confuse people?

Your post said that nutildah made the accusation (of PN7 being QS, unless you mean some other accusation? that'd be quite weird though). I responded that the accusation existed before this thread. Which part confuses you?

[TECSHARE]

It's not even that. What "crime" are we "trying" him for?

Great fucking question. What is the point of all this again even if you are right?

My neutral rating literally says "Likely a well-known scammer evading red trust." If you want to think that I masterminded some scheme with this Jedi mind trick by saying "scammer" and everyone thinking "Quickseller" - I can't stop you. Your penchant for conspiracy theories is well know as is your inability to be wrong. You might want to continue this in a reeeeeeeeeeeeee thread since this one is getting off rails.

If anyone else feels that me saying "The accusation was floating around for a long time and PN7 got red tagged before this thread even existed" was deceptive - I'm sorry. That was not my intent.

Even if this was planned carefully, this is hardly a mastermind plan. No, just plain old deceit and spite, it doesn't even require planning, just being really butthurt and deluded. Thanks by highlighting the fact I got you here by bringing up conspiracy theories as a last ditch effort to make these accusations seem unrealistic and over the top, very elucidating regarding how you operate. Can't argue the facts? Attack the source.

[sirazimuth]

......You might want to continue this in a reeeeeeeeeeeeee thread since this one is getting off rails.

Which will undoubtedly start with “..rant rave blah blah ...nutilduhhhhhhhhhhh...show me the man l’ll show you the crime.... blah blah ...etc, etc....”

[suchmoon]

Can't argue the facts? Attack the source.

Isn't that what you and figment have been trying to do for the last couple of pages? Not a lot of discussion as to whether PN7 is an alt of QS, mostly just complaints about how those suspicions came up.

I don't mind that (preferably in a separate thread) but let's be real as to what you're after. You don't care or you don't want to admit you misjudged PN7 and you need a scapegoat. Well, I'm your man (or woman if you trust PN7), find me some crimes I'm guilty of.

[TECSHARE]

Can't argue the facts? Attack the source.

Isn't that what you and figment have been trying to do for the last couple of pages? Not a lot of discussion as to whether PN7 is an alt of QS, mostly just complaints about how those suspicions came up.

I don't mind that (preferably in a separate thread) but let's be real as to what you're after. You don't care or you don't want to admit you misjudged PN7 and you need a scapegoat. Well, I'm your man (or woman if you trust PN7), find me some crimes I'm guilty of.

No, that is only a response to your most recent last ditch attempt at distracting from you pretending these accusations just appeared out of the ether and didn't come from you to begin with.

[suchmoon]

No, that is only a response to your most recent last ditch attempt at distracting from you pretending these accusations just appeared out of the ether and didn't come from you to begin with.

Believe it or not (I have a feeling you won't) but there were other people who suspected that PN7 is QS without my help. If I'm not mistaken nutildah himself figured it out on his own.

But if the Jedi theory makes it easier for you to cope - stick to it.

[DireWolfM14]

Believe it or not (I have a feeling you won't) but there were other people who suspected that PN7 is QS without my help. If I'm not mistaken nutildah himself figured it out on his own.

I too suspected that PrimeNumber7 was an alt of an active member almost immediately after noticing him.  In fact I sent suchmoon a PM on June 20, 2019 expressing my suspicion that it was Quckseller.  At the time I had noticed a few newbie accounts that raised my suspicions, including some that were registered in prior years who had only recently woken up.

But if the Jedi theory makes it easier for you to cope - stick to it.

Is this the Jedi Mind Trick's equivalent of revers psychology?

[suchmoon]

Believe it or not (I have a feeling you won't) but there were other people who suspected that PN7 is QS without my help. If I'm not mistaken nutildah himself figured it out on his own.

I too suspected that PrimeNumber7 was an alt of an active member almost immediately after noticing him.  In fact I sent suchmoon a PM on June 20, 2019 expressing my suspicion that it was Quckseller.  At the time I had noticed a few newbie accounts that raised my suspicions, including some that were registered in prior years who had only recently woken up.

That's why you're on TECSHARE's shitlist too - you think too much.

But if the Jedi theory makes it easier for you to cope - stick to it.

Is this the Jedi Mind Trick's equivalent of revers psychology?

That's way above my pay grade, I'm a beginner Jedi with simple tricks. I say "scammer", you think "Quickseller".

[DireWolfM14]

Believe it or not (I have a feeling you won't) but there were other people who suspected that PN7 is QS without my help. If I'm not mistaken nutildah himself figured it out on his own.

I too suspected that PrimeNumber7 was an alt of an active member almost immediately after noticing him.  In fact I sent suchmoon a PM on June 20, 2019 expressing my suspicion that it was Quckseller.  At the time I had noticed a few newbie accounts that raised my suspicions, including some that were registered in prior years who had only recently woken up.

That's why you're on TECSHARE's shitlist too - you think too much.

I was waiting for him to suggest that I may have planted the seed, and be elevated to Jedi status.  No such luck?  Oh well.  I suspect I might be on his "ignore" list as well, since he hasn't responded to me in weeks.

[TECSHARE]

See what I mean? A bunch of pals just sit around and reaffirm each others suspicions then just pretend it is fact without ever substantiating anything. Have enough people repeat it, then you can just pretend it is accepted truth. This is a tactic called "manufacturing consensus", and it is a well known methodology for managing narratives such as done in propaganda, marketing, and public relations.

[suchmoon]

See what I mean? A bunch of pals just sit around and reaffirm each others suspicions then just pretend it is fact without ever substantiating anything. Have enough people repeat it, then you can just pretend it is accepted truth. Noam Chomsky called this "manufacturing consensus".

It's really hard to see what you mean when you keep jumping around like a rabbit on cocaine. So first it was my trust rating from July last year that you had a problem with. Is DireWolfM14's independently arisen suspicion from June last year also a problem?

If you had done your due diligence when you added PN7 and if you had asked me about that feedback, you could have had your tantrum months ago and possibly avoided the embarrassment today.

[TECSHARE]

See what I mean? A bunch of pals just sit around and reaffirm each others suspicions then just pretend it is fact without ever substantiating anything. Have enough people repeat it, then you can just pretend it is accepted truth. Noam Chomsky called this "manufacturing consensus".

It's really hard to see what you mean when you keep jumping around like a rabbit on cocaine. So first it was my trust rating from July last year that you had a problem with. Is DireWolfM14's independently arisen suspicion from June last year also a problem?

If you had done your due diligence when you added PN7 and asked me about that feedback, you could have had your tantrum months ago and possibly avoided the embarrassment today.

The only one jumping around is you in a desperate attempt to topic slide and hope people will be distracted from what I am bringing attention to, that you are so far the first one documented to have made the accusation as you pretend it originated elsewhere. More NO U eh?

[DireWolfM14]

The only one jumping around is you in a desperate attempt to topic slide and hope people will be distracted from what I am bringing attention to, that you are so far the first one documented to have made the accusation as you pretend it originated elsewhere. More NO U eh?

Why is it so important to identify who was the first documented accuser?  So far at least five members have come forward and claimed to have independently arrived at the same conclusions, all around the same time.  Why is that so hard to accept?

I've said it before; the evidence is all circumstantial, but in combination an overwhelming amount of circumstantial evidence can be compelling.  If you disagree, debunk the evidence.  Don't attempt to deflect, and levy an accusation on the person(s) presenting the evidence.  I know you've had long running disputes with both nutildah and suchmoon, but it is possible for them to right from time to time, even if you think they are wrong most of the time.

[TECSHARE]

The only one jumping around is you in a desperate attempt to topic slide and hope people will be distracted from what I am bringing attention to, that you are so far the first one documented to have made the accusation as you pretend it originated elsewhere. More NO U eh?

Why is it so important to identify who was the first documented accuser?  So far at least five members have come forward and claimed to have independently arrived at the same conclusions, all around the same time.  Why is that so hard to accept?

I've said it before; the evidence is all circumstantial, but in combination an overwhelming amount of circumstantial evidence can be compelling.  If you disagree, debunk the evidence.  Don't attempt to deflect, and levy an accusation on the person(s) presenting the evidence.  I know you've had long running disputes with both nutildah and suchmoon, but it is possible for them to right from time to time, even if you think they are wrong most of the time.

Why is it so important to tie these two accounts together? What crimes exactly is this preventing? This is about nothing but petty interpersonal disputes, and the fact that Suchmoon can't document any earlier claims after trying to pretend it wasn't them just solidifies this fact. I like the touch of "NO U" you added as well. Very slick.

[Quickseller]

Believe it or not (I have a feeling you won't) but there were other people who suspected that PN7 is QS without my help. If I'm not mistaken nutildah himself figured it out on his own.

I too suspected that PrimeNumber7 was an alt of an active member almost immediately after noticing him.  In fact I sent suchmoon a PM on June 20, 2019 expressing my suspicion that it was Quckseller.  At the time I had noticed a few newbie accounts that raised my suspicions, including some that were registered in prior years who had only recently woken up.

That's why you're on TECSHARE's shitlist too - you think too much.

But if the Jedi theory makes it easier for you to cope - stick to it.

Is this the Jedi Mind Trick's equivalent of revers psychology?

That's way above my pay grade, I'm a beginner Jedi with simple tricks. I say "scammer", you think "Quickseller".

It appears that someone is especially petty and vindictive today.

I’m curious how many other reputations you have damaged via proxies as you did in this case.

[suchmoon]

It appears that someone is especially petty and vindictive today.

I’m curious how many other reputations you have damaged via proxies as you did in this case.

False. Your reputation is being damaged by your sleazy sockpuppeting but the good news is that there are some people who don't care and will be happy to trust you regardless. So carry on.

[TECSHARE]

It appears that someone is especially petty and vindictive today.

I’m curious how many other reputations you have damaged via proxies as you did in this case.

False. Your reputation is being damaged by your sleazy sockpuppeting but the good news is that there are some people who don't care and will be happy to trust you regardless. So carry on.

Lately Quickseller has been acting more reasonably than you. Think on that for a few minutes. I still haven't got anyone to answer me on why exactly this needs to be made into a federal case. What exactly is Quickseller up to that needs to be exposed so imminently?

[ibminer]

We don't need the thread to spin into a new direction, again, TECSHARE.

The thread ("PrimeNumber7 is an alt of Quickseller") seems to be ending, as most are in agreement that it is highly likely to be Quickseller's alt, and many would say it is his alt. If you want to start debating whether Quickseller and his new alt are trustworthy or not, why not start a new thread?

Now since you brought it up, let's think about this for a few minutes... what behaviors got QuickSeller into trouble in the first place? and now, what behaviors is he exhibiting right now?

.. hint: it's the same: lying, being deceitful, dishonesty, and then harassing other members (something you always claim you are so against, but you are OK with Quickseller doing it -- hypocrisy).

One does not get a second chance by acting the same way he did back then. He just wants to be on DT and saw an opportunity with the latest trust changes, got caught, and is trying to weasel his way out of it.. and failing miserably.

IMO, DT is no place for someone like Quickseller who is still exhibiting his dishonest and greedy nature, and I believe that was the goal with this alt, to make it on DT.

Sadly, he hasn't learned.

[suchmoon]

Lately Quickseller has been acting more reasonably than you. Think on that for a few minutes. I still haven't got anyone to answer me on why exactly this needs to be made into a federal case. What exactly is Quickseller up to that needs to be exposed so imminently?

I thought about it. I still wouldn't trust him at all as there are many shitty things he's done to numerous people, so while I'm sure Lauda appreciates the apology it doesn't make Quickseller "reasonable" by any means.

It's not really a federal case so maybe that's why you're not getting an answer.

[DireWolfM14]

Why is it so important to tie these two accounts together?

Funny you should ask that.

TECSHARE Distrusts these users' judgement:
49. ~Quickseller (Trust: #  +13 / =3 / -17) (781 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.


Apply a Groucho Marx mask, and:

TECSHARE Trusts these users' judgement:
82. PrimeNumber7 (Trust: neutral) (445 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.


If someone whom I explicitly distrust disguised himself and tricked me into trusting him, I would want to know.  I would also admit my mistake, rectify it, and move on with life.  I wouldn't deflect blame for my error onto those who exposed the disguise.  Not even if those messengers were people with whom I've had a history of disagreements.