Pain of a bounty manager.

[Wysi]

Yes we are talking about the hassle which the bounty manager goes through and bounties of good projects which fails and the development team ends up with huge loss, as a result, they could not focus on further developments and just don't bother to distribute the bounty tokens to the bounty hunters until the investors trade the tokens or else just shuts down the project.

Management's fault:
They tend to be greedy at one point of time and starts thinking that if they distribute the bounty to the hunters they will dump it anyway nad the value of token will crash down and they dealy the distribution meanwhile the bounty hunters start writing bad about the project and there were instances that the genuine bounty projects were termed as scam for this issue.

Bounty hunter's fault:
Bounty hunter just join any random campaign without investigating and then they are the greediest bunch(not everyone) I have seen while managing the campaigns as one user registers with hundreds of fake accounts and that too their account has followers who have nothing to do with crpto as most of them as desperate who just follows the twitter account by looking at fake DP of some hot girls which are often used by the hunters to gain more followers, moreover, the bounty users enter their ETH address on some other person's profile as well and if the bounty manager does not check that then the cheater will get paid twice and the person who works hard will not be paid, submitting false report is one of the main concern wherein the bounty manager has to check thousands of report and some of them just copy-paste old reports to get reward without working.

Then comes those users who keeps spamming the telegram group by sharing some scam projects and irrelevant stuff from numerous fake profiles.

I think the whole bounty process has become a shithole and the worst part is that the signature campaigns are not entertained by bounties as they want to reach wider audience without knowing that most of the social media campaigns do not reach any real audience as it reaches some fake profiles who follow the bounty hunters just by looking at their picture.

Regardless of the issue, the bounty managers are cursed as if they are paying out of their pocket. Users needs to understand that even bounty managers are paid for their job just like bounty hunters and most of the time even they are not paid for their hardwork. Even a slightest negligence from bounty hunters gets them a negative trust thanks to those merit thirsty users who tries to blame it all on bounty hunters to get a merit.

this is just a brief of not even 5% of pain which bounty managers go through.

[Roidz]

Bounty manager is an extension of the team to manage their bounty project, and of course we as bounty participants also cannot 100% blame the bounty manager, if indeed the project fails and is fraudulent, because to my knowledge the managers are also paid when the project is finished unless the manager who handles bounty projects with BTC fees usually there will be someone who acts as an escrow so that payments for bounty participants will be guaranteed, but if the project pays with coin ico of course the manager will get paid after the project is complete and all spreadsheet data has been sent to the project team, but if the project is fraudulent, of course the manager will usually not get paid the same as the bounty participants.

[Wysi]

Bounty manager is an extension of the team to manage their bounty project, and of course we as bounty participants also cannot 100% blame the bounty manager, if indeed the project fails and is fraudulent, because to my knowledge the managers are also paid when the project is finished unless the manager who handles bounty projects with BTC fees usually there will be someone who acts as an escrow so that payments for bounty participants will be guaranteed, but if the project pays with coin ico of course the manager will get paid after the project is complete and all spreadsheet data has been sent to the project team, but if the project is fraudulent, of course the manager will usually not get paid the same as the bounty participants.

Yes indeed, that the worst part wherein bounty manager filters the data by keeping the cheaters and spammers at bay by individually checking the details but don't hear from the project owners after submitting all the details and Athero bounty was an example of greedy management and short-sighted fraudulent activity done by the management and bounty manager and hunters were at receiving end.

[tungaqhd]

Yes we are talking about the hassle which the bounty manager goes through and bounties of good projects which fails and the development team ends up with huge loss, as a result, they could not focus on further developments and just don't bother to distribute the bounty tokens to the bounty hunters until the investors trade the tokens or else just shuts down the project.

Management's fault:
They tend to be greedy at one point of time and starts thinking that if they distribute the bounty to the hunters they will dump it anyway nad the value of token will crash down and they dealy the distribution meanwhile the bounty hunters start writing bad about the project and there were instances that the genuine bounty projects were termed as scam for this issue.

Bounty hunter's fault:
Bounty hunter just join any random campaign without investigating and then they are the greediest bunch(not everyone) I have seen while managing the campaigns as one user registers with hundreds of fake accounts and that too their account has followers who have nothing to do with crpto as most of them as desperate who just follows the twitter account by looking at fake DP of some hot girls which are often used by the hunters to gain more followers, moreover, the bounty users enter their ETH address on some other person's profile as well and if the bounty manager does not check that then the cheater will get paid twice and the person who works hard will not be paid, submitting false report is one of the main concern wherein the bounty manager has to check thousands of report and some of them just copy-paste old reports to get reward without working.

Then comes those users who keeps spamming the telegram group by sharing some scam projects and irrelevant stuff from numerous fake profiles.

I think the whole bounty process has become a shithole and the worst part is that the signature campaigns are not entertained by bounties as they want to reach wider audience without knowing that most of the social media campaigns do not reach any real audience as it reaches some fake profiles who follow the bounty hunters just by looking at their picture.

Regardless of the issue, the bounty managers are cursed as if they are paying out of their pocket. Users needs to understand that even bounty managers are paid for their job just like bounty hunters and most of the time even they are not paid for their hardwork. Even a slightest negligence from bounty hunters gets them a negative trust thanks to those merit thirsty users who tries to blame it all on bounty hunters to get a merit.

this is just a brief of not even 5% of pain which bounty managers go through.

It is sad that many bounty hunters using fake social accounts with fake friends, followers, likes and shares. However they alway complain about their reward when the project failed.

[samuraijin]

I am still confused about how the bounty manager got the job for the project and why they did not select it either, that they were real and paying projects, actually we don't blame anyone because we should all correct ourselves, I also don't defend bounty hunters because I also a bounty hunter but I feel disappointed too sometimes when they like to shout in the telegram group about distribution, I also want the bounty to be better in the future and where the bounty manager does not easily accept service work from the scammer project, I wait for everyone to work together to overcome things this is between bounty hunters and bounty managers dealing with scammer projects instead of accusing each other

[NathanJB]

The difficulty of the bounty manager is a little higher compared to that of a bounty participant. The manager does not have a required number of posts daily, or number of tweets, or an article, or a video, and so on unless he is also a participant. His task is to make sure the participants are meeting the requirements. But that is more difficult because that means hundreds of them. But this is a case to case basis, there are so many managers who cannot even update the spreadsheet on time.

[Lagduf]

Bounty manager is an extension of the team to manage their bounty project, and of course we as bounty participants also cannot 100% blame the bounty manager, if indeed the project fails and is fraudulent, because to my knowledge the managers are also paid when the project is finished unless the manager who handles bounty projects with BTC fees usually there will be someone who acts as an escrow so that payments for bounty participants will be guaranteed, but if the project pays with coin ico of course the manager will get paid after the project is complete and all spreadsheet data has been sent to the project team, but if the project is fraudulent, of course the manager will usually not get paid the same as the bounty participants.

How do you know if the manager was getting paid before managing the campaign? as far as I know that bitcoin campaign is really different from the altcoin campaign. In bitcoin campaign, there was a lot of managers who are putting escrow as the first requirement before he starts his job but in altcoin campaign, the manager will be getting paid after the end of the bounty campaign. Remember so many altcoin campaigns were using their free tokens to pay the hunters and manager. Not all of the team from altcoin can be trusted as they were not even sending the token to the escrow but they are all of the control over the tokens and this make altcoin bounty campaign just like a bit bet for the participants and manager.

[BitDane]

That is why there is a bounty manager, why are you whining about your work OP?  Bounty manager's task is to oversee the bounty campaign.  It is your task to check for cheaters, scammers and filter participants.  And calculate their payments and pass it to the management team.  If you are not willing to do the task assigned to you then better not to manage any campaign.  

Those who register thousands of accounts are not bounty hunters, they are cheaters that disguised to be a bounty hunter.  And it is your task to spot them so there is no reason for you to whine about it.  Besides if you properly contract a deal, you have been paid even before the job started unlike those bounty hunters that waits a very long time before being paid.

Bounty manager is an extension of the team to manage their bounty project, and of course we as bounty participants also cannot 100% blame the bounty manager, if indeed the project fails and is fraudulent, because to my knowledge the managers are also paid when the project is finished unless the manager who handles bounty projects with BTC fees usually there will be someone who acts as an escrow so that payments for bounty participants will be guaranteed, but if the project pays with coin ico of course the manager will get paid after the project is complete and all spreadsheet data has been sent to the project team, but if the project is fraudulent, of course the manager will usually not get paid the same as the bounty participants.

How do you know if the manager was getting paid before managing the campaign? as far as I know that bitcoin campaign is really different from the altcoin campaign. In bitcoin campaign, there was a lot of managers who are putting escrow as the first requirement before he starts his job but in altcoin campaign, the manager will be getting paid after the end of the bounty campaign. Remember so many altcoin campaigns were using their free tokens to pay the hunters and manager. Not all of the team from altcoin can be trusted as they were not even sending the token to the escrow but they are all of the control over the tokens and this make altcoin bounty campaign just like a bit bet for the participants and manager.

I believe they have deals before the manager accept the job.  Part of it that a bounty manager demand is an upfront of 20% to 50% of payment, typical of any deals unless the bounty manager don't know what he is doing then he will be working without any initial payment.

The difficulty of the bounty manager is a little higher compared to that of a bounty participant. The manager does not have a required number of posts daily, or number of tweets, or an article, or a video, and so on unless he is also a participant. His task is to make sure the participants are meeting the requirements. But that is more difficult because that means hundreds of them. But this is a case to case basis, there are so many managers who cannot even update the spreadsheet on time.

That is why bounty managers are paid several times bigger than any bounty participants.

[HabiebRiziq]

The difficulty of the bounty manager is a little higher compared to that of a bounty participant. The manager does not have a required number of posts daily, or number of tweets, or an article, or a video, and so on unless he is also a participant. His task is to make sure the participants are meeting the requirements. But that is more difficult because that means hundreds of them. But this is a case to case basis, there are so many managers who cannot even update the spreadsheet on time.

Sometimes the bounty participants simply say that what the bounty manager does is easy and many say that as a bounty manager they can choose which projects are good or not. We cannot blame everything on the bounty manager when the project we follow becomes a scam because sometimes the bounty manager also doesn't know about it and they only supervise the bounty participants and also always update the spreadsheet and report the results of all the work to the team behind the project. .

[NathanJB]

The difficulty of the bounty manager is a little higher compared to that of a bounty participant. The manager does not have a required number of posts daily, or number of tweets, or an article, or a video, and so on unless he is also a participant. His task is to make sure the participants are meeting the requirements. But that is more difficult because that means hundreds of them. But this is a case to case basis, there are so many managers who cannot even update the spreadsheet on time.

Sometimes the bounty participants simply say that what the bounty manager does is easy and many say that as a bounty manager they can choose which projects are good or not. We cannot blame everything on the bounty manager when the project we follow becomes a scam because sometimes the bounty manager also doesn't know about it and they only supervise the bounty participants and also always update the spreadsheet and report the results of all the work to the team behind the project. .

But let us also not say that the bounty managers have the absolute freedom to accept all kinds of projects for as long as they are paid well. We should not say that the bounty managers do not have any accountability as to the projects they are promoting. That is not good also. Bounty managers should at least do their research as the bounty participants are also doing their research. Bounty managers are like portals. Once a scam is approved by the managers, there will be a flood of other people, the bounty participants, promoting it resulting into a bigger problem. The bounty managers have responsibilities, too.

[BlackFor3st]

Yes we are talking about the hassle which the bounty manager goes through and bounties of good projects which fails and the development team ends up with huge loss, as a result, they could not focus on further developments and just don't bother to distribute the bounty tokens to the bounty hunters until the investors trade the tokens or else just shuts down the project.

Management's fault:
They tend to be greedy at one point of time and starts thinking that if they distribute the bounty to the hunters they will dump it anyway nad the value of token will crash down and they dealy the distribution meanwhile the bounty hunters start writing bad about the project and there were instances that the genuine bounty projects were termed as scam for this issue.

Bounty hunter's fault:
Bounty hunter just join any random campaign without investigating and then they are the greediest bunch(not everyone) I have seen while managing the campaigns as one user registers with hundreds of fake accounts and that too their account has followers who have nothing to do with crpto as most of them as desperate who just follows the twitter account by looking at fake DP of some hot girls which are often used by the hunters to gain more followers, moreover, the bounty users enter their ETH address on some other person's profile as well and if the bounty manager does not check that then the cheater will get paid twice and the person who works hard will not be paid, submitting false report is one of the main concern wherein the bounty manager has to check thousands of report and some of them just copy-paste old reports to get reward without working.

Then comes those users who keeps spamming the telegram group by sharing some scam projects and irrelevant stuff from numerous fake profiles.

I think the whole bounty process has become a shithole and the worst part is that the signature campaigns are not entertained by bounties as they want to reach wider audience without knowing that most of the social media campaigns do not reach any real audience as it reaches some fake profiles who follow the bounty hunters just by looking at their picture.

Regardless of the issue, the bounty managers are cursed as if they are paying out of their pocket. Users needs to understand that even bounty managers are paid for their job just like bounty hunters and most of the time even they are not paid for their hardwork. Even a slightest negligence from bounty hunters gets them a negative trust thanks to those merit thirsty users who tries to blame it all on bounty hunters to get a merit.

this is just a brief of not even 5% of pain which bounty managers go through.

This only summarized how difficult the task of bounty managers and the bounty hunters should also respect them especially in the event that there are mistakes that happened or there are delays with the stake counting.

Most of the bounty hunters are blaming the bounty managers if their stakes are not correct and they didn't even bother in thinking why they only get that stakes. It's not easy to be a bounty manager if their are plenty of hunters that are almost noob (They just randomly do the task without reading the rules and guidelines). This is the common mistakes of the bounty hunters, though not all but most of the new hunters are like these.

[btcltcdigger]

Yes we are talking about the hassle which the bounty manager goes through and bounties of good projects which fails and the development team ends up with huge loss, as a result, they could not focus on further developments and just don't bother to distribute the bounty tokens to the bounty hunters until the investors trade the tokens or else just shuts down the project.

Management's fault:
They tend to be greedy at one point of time and starts thinking that if they distribute the bounty to the hunters they will dump it anyway nad the value of token will crash down and they dealy the distribution meanwhile the bounty hunters start writing bad about the project and there were instances that the genuine bounty projects were termed as scam for this issue.

Bounty hunter's fault:
Bounty hunter just join any random campaign without investigating and then they are the greediest bunch(not everyone) I have seen while managing the campaigns as one user registers with hundreds of fake accounts and that too their account has followers who have nothing to do with crpto as most of them as desperate who just follows the twitter account by looking at fake DP of some hot girls which are often used by the hunters to gain more followers, moreover, the bounty users enter their ETH address on some other person's profile as well and if the bounty manager does not check that then the cheater will get paid twice and the person who works hard will not be paid, submitting false report is one of the main concern wherein the bounty manager has to check thousands of report and some of them just copy-paste old reports to get reward without working.

Then comes those users who keeps spamming the telegram group by sharing some scam projects and irrelevant stuff from numerous fake profiles.

I think the whole bounty process has become a shithole and the worst part is that the signature campaigns are not entertained by bounties as they want to reach wider audience without knowing that most of the social media campaigns do not reach any real audience as it reaches some fake profiles who follow the bounty hunters just by looking at their picture.

Regardless of the issue, the bounty managers are cursed as if they are paying out of their pocket. Users needs to understand that even bounty managers are paid for their job just like bounty hunters and most of the time even they are not paid for their hardwork. Even a slightest negligence from bounty hunters gets them a negative trust thanks to those merit thirsty users who tries to blame it all on bounty hunters to get a merit.

this is just a brief of not even 5% of pain which bounty managers go through.

Reading this, my smile was getting bigger and bigger, but i couldn't agree more.
Unfortunately bounties nowadays have a really bad rep, and their usefulness to the projects is questionable more often than not.

The truth is, 50% or more bounty hunters have no clue what they're applying for, they just heard from someone "go apply, its free money". Sad part is, around 30% of them don't even speak English (which i think many would agree, is a must in this community).

And no matter how you run your campaign, lenient or very strict, there's at least 10% of them that will call you scammer/bad.

I'm sure many of bounty managers heard the phrase "bounty hunters work very hard". While some really do, and kudos to them, most of them have automated retweeting/liking scripts and usually use a spin-bot on articles.
And then, when i do reward a genuinely good article with bonus stakes, i'm accused of favoritism and am subjected to scrutiny and name calling.

It's a cursed road to walk on, being a bounty manager, but it has it's rewards.

At one point, i even had an idea to create a fake bounty, and clearly call it "FAKE BOUNTY, NO REWARDS GIVEN" and explain in the details that it's a social project with no rewards, just to see how many people will blindly join without reading details.

[Dickiy]

the accuracy of being a manager is indeed necessary so that the quality of his work becomes professional when checking the job of a gift seeker whether it is a report or posting their tweets it has to be even more thorough, I know why being a manager is sick? they work to correct the job of a prize seeker but the manager is far less allocated than the participant signature or articel participant because in their manager consists of groups of course if the manager gets their share they will share their payment equally

[gweedo]

You can't blame bounty managers, they just do their jobs and they are not members of a project. They are hired to manage the campaign and do the best they can, after the bounty ends, the bounty manager will send the spreadsheet to the project and from then on they will end the responsibility. The token distribution time will depend on each project and the bounty manager will never manage it

[JeotQ]

Project teams are to be blame here, before introducing or laughing your project you have to consider some facts like, how to make the token or coin more demanding, to be honest new project with rare features will be unstoppable, only projects that are introducing something that's already available will be in trouble because there will be competitions

[TanakabZX]

To all bounty hunters by now I expect you guys to have learned about rushing to promote any projects you see fit, most times not getting paid is not the bounty managers fault but from the team themselves, there is nothing bounty manager can do if team refused to pay bounty rewards, BM job is to conduct the bounty program, we bounty hunters are the ones who have the ball in our courts, think very well, do better research before you promote any project

[btcdie]

I know exactly the complaint as a bounty manager, because one of them is the project they hold turns out to be a scam project (and not getting any of it) and then the negative trust is in the account. Not all managers know which projects are legitimate and which are scams, but some of them are reliable managers who will surely earn according to the work. being a bounty manager is actually a risk, unless they have been paid in advance (BTC, ETH, USDT). of course it is very different if payment is in coins or project tokens, of course a manager will complain because he only receives junk coins / tokens. for now being a bounty manager or bounty hunter, is a very tiring and time-consuming work. I really miss 2017, where only 3 months I can buy a car.

[bassbity]

Bounty managers cannot be blamed because they only manage campaigns and the rest is only the team that can do that, the project team must be responsible for all this because if the project fails or the bounty is not paid because they themselves are not the bounty manager.
There must be an escrow in every bounty so that bounty hunters can get rewards if there is already an escrow.

[Casdinyard]

At one point, i even had an idea to create a fake bounty, and clearly call it "FAKE BOUNTY, NO REWARDS GIVEN" and explain in the details that it's a social project with no rewards, just to see how many people will blindly join without reading details.

Lol, that's a clever one but really some don't read hence couldn't comprehend what they're reading.
Some jump on the boat even without water. Sad.

I am still confused about how the bounty manager got the job for the project and why they did not select it either, that they were real and paying projects,

Well, apparently even they want to manage a good one when the team itself is totally scammer then they wouldn't know. Some projects looks legit in the beginning then after a while, things turned out the other away around. Bounty managers are someway victims since some doesn't been paid in fiat or bitcoin or the worse their salary is just a shitcoin.

[yazher]

Those Managers deserved to be awarded with hard-working awards. They are one of the reasons why we have this kind of community. If they managed a few scam project, I think it's not a good idea to put all blame to them rather we need to reflect and ask ourself why are we participating in their campaigns. some of these guys are also victims of some scam projects. We need to respect them and think as if we were on their shoes to avoid hurting their feelings.