Pain of a bounty manager.

[mu_enrico]

I think this problem could be solved with a simple BTC payment for the campaign. No more participants must wait for the stupid distribution after working for several months. Managers must not be greedy and they should not accept random unknown campaigns. Then after proper due diligence, the team must use escrow to deal with payments.

Payment with tokens created from thin air is the problem!

[Yaunfitda]

Of course, there's a lot of pain that a bounty manager go when handling bounty projects. And most of the time they got the grunt of bounty participants if payments are delayed and all the manager can do is apologise on behalf of the project itself.

There are a lot of good bounty managers that I think disappear because of many accusations against them. I will not name names here, but way back 2018 there was one who truly lost the trust of the community because the project he is managing turns out to be a scam.

[LogitechMouse]

Unfortunately bounties nowadays have a really bad rep, and their usefulness to the projects is questionable more often than not.

This is because of the scams that happened in the past years especially in 2018 where the scam projects are everywhere and it also affected the reputation of the bounty campaign as a whole. I know how bounty managers are feeling right now but I still believe that you bounty managers still get your fee in managing their campaigns even though some of them are becoming scam in the end.

The truth is, 50% or more bounty hunters have no clue what they're applying for, they just heard from someone "go apply, its free money". Sad part is, around 30% of them don't even speak English (which i think many would agree, is a must in this community).

Bounty campaign = free money for most of the users here and we can't blame them to be honest. They are the bodies of the bounty campaign and a campaign will be useless without them so even though they don't have a clue in the campaign they joined, they will just join for the sake of "FREE MONEY".

And no matter how you run your campaign, lenient or very strict, there's at least 10% of them that will call you scammer/bad.

People will always search for loopholes in everything including in bounty campaigns.
To conclude it, I must give a salute to those bounty campaigns who are working hard just to do their job as a bounty managers. Some of them have their own staffs that can help them in counting. If there are no bounty managers right now, there are no new projects and there are no free money for those stupid users who are just here for the sake of bounty campaigns . Yes scam projects are always there are we can't remove it right now but still respect for the bounty managers out there and I hope that you will not stop in managing campaigns .

[zhekinsp]

Bounty managers are not responsible for the token distribution and most of the managers will mention this in their bounty thread itself but if they are willingly promote after knowing a project is scam or part of that project then that manager is going to get bad reputation from DT members.

Campaign manager also have to pick the right project to promote,if they are choosing random project just to get some bucks then they will not last long here as bounty campaign manager.

[huu78]

Hurts to be a and manager who is billed about the campaign reward as it was because he had all that in his handle he owned him but he was only 3rd party to promote the campaign of one of the projects but it is unfortunate like that. Indeed, many are annoyed by the projects that they hold a lot of problems and feel inappropriate to do their campaign so yes maybe it's already reasonable among the bounty hunters.

[Xcode7]

Yes we are talking about the hassle which the bounty manager goes through and bounties of good projects which fails and the development team ends up with huge loss, as a result, they could not focus on further developments and just don't bother to distribute the bounty tokens to the bounty hunters until the investors trade the tokens or else just shuts down the project.

Management's fault:
They tend to be greedy at one point of time and starts thinking that if they distribute the bounty to the hunters they will dump it anyway nad the value of token will crash down and they dealy the distribution meanwhile the bounty hunters start writing bad about the project and there were instances that the genuine bounty projects were termed as scam for this issue.

Bounty hunter's fault:
Bounty hunter just join any random campaign without investigating and then they are the greediest bunch(not everyone) I have seen while managing the campaigns as one user registers with hundreds of fake accounts and that too their account has followers who have nothing to do with crpto as most of them as desperate who just follows the twitter account by looking at fake DP of some hot girls which are often used by the hunters to gain more followers, moreover, the bounty users enter their ETH address on some other person's profile as well and if the bounty manager does not check that then the cheater will get paid twice and the person who works hard will not be paid, submitting false report is one of the main concern wherein the bounty manager has to check thousands of report and some of them just copy-paste old reports to get reward without working.

Then comes those users who keeps spamming the telegram group by sharing some scam projects and irrelevant stuff from numerous fake profiles.

I think the whole bounty process has become a shithole and the worst part is that the signature campaigns are not entertained by bounties as they want to reach wider audience without knowing that most of the social media campaigns do not reach any real audience as it reaches some fake profiles who follow the bounty hunters just by looking at their picture.

Regardless of the issue, the bounty managers are cursed as if they are paying out of their pocket. Users needs to understand that even bounty managers are paid for their job just like bounty hunters and most of the time even they are not paid for their hardwork. Even a slightest negligence from bounty hunters gets them a negative trust thanks to those merit thirsty users who tries to blame it all on bounty hunters to get a merit.

this is just a brief of not even 5% of pain which bounty managers go through.

In reality this kind of thing can happen, there are some people who want to get more profit by using fake accounts or other methods. Of course this is detrimental for those of us who participate in a campaign honestly, I think the unsettling thing in a bounty campaign has been going on for quite a long time, I don't want to blame anyone here, because I know both the manager or project organizer is doing the best thing for the participants and also the products.

[Genemind]

Yes we are talking about the hassle which the bounty manager goes through and bounties of good projects which fails and the development team ends up with huge loss, as a result, they could not focus on further developments and just don't bother to distribute the bounty tokens to the bounty hunters until the investors trade the tokens or else just shuts down the project.

Management's fault:
They tend to be greedy at one point of time and starts thinking that if they distribute the bounty to the hunters they will dump it anyway nad the value of token will crash down and they dealy the distribution meanwhile the bounty hunters start writing bad about the project and there were instances that the genuine bounty projects were termed as scam for this issue.

Bounty hunter's fault:
Bounty hunter just join any random campaign without investigating and then they are the greediest bunch(not everyone) I have seen while managing the campaigns as one user registers with hundreds of fake accounts and that too their account has followers who have nothing to do with crpto as most of them as desperate who just follows the twitter account by looking at fake DP of some hot girls which are often used by the hunters to gain more followers, moreover, the bounty users enter their ETH address on some other person's profile as well and if the bounty manager does not check that then the cheater will get paid twice and the person who works hard will not be paid, submitting false report is one of the main concern wherein the bounty manager has to check thousands of report and some of them just copy-paste old reports to get reward without working.

Then comes those users who keeps spamming the telegram group by sharing some scam projects and irrelevant stuff from numerous fake profiles.

I think the whole bounty process has become a shithole and the worst part is that the signature campaigns are not entertained by bounties as they want to reach wider audience without knowing that most of the social media campaigns do not reach any real audience as it reaches some fake profiles who follow the bounty hunters just by looking at their picture.

Regardless of the issue, the bounty managers are cursed as if they are paying out of their pocket. Users needs to understand that even bounty managers are paid for their job just like bounty hunters and most of the time even they are not paid for their hardwork. Even a slightest negligence from bounty hunters gets them a negative trust thanks to those merit thirsty users who tries to blame it all on bounty hunters to get a merit.

this is just a brief of not even 5% of pain which bounty managers go through.

Great power comes great responsibility and that's the burden of most bounty managers. Yes, they are getting paid higher than bounty hunters but they are also facing a big risk because they are the ones to blame by bounty hunters if ever the project fails. They should perform every single duty for most participants because that's a part of their task. It's not easy to be a bounty manager because you'll only get paid accordingly for what you have worked for.

[anjiitem]

To all bounty hunters by now I expect you guys to have learned about rushing to promote any projects you see fit, most times not getting paid is not the bounty managers fault but from the team themselves, there is nothing bounty manager can do if team refused to pay bounty rewards, BM job is to conduct the bounty program, we bounty hunters are the ones who have the ball in our courts, think very well, do better research before you promote any project

It is true that bounty managers cannot be blamed when there are no token distributions or bounty hunters do not pay after completing their work promoting the project. For me, maybe payment using ETH or BTC is a good solution for the project itself and also the bounty hunters. Of course the project is a good or serious project to develop the project and by making payments using eth or btc I think it is a good first step for projects that really have big goals.

[thisnewcoin]

You are absolutely right! The pain of a bounty manager is insane! They have to go through lots of obstacles! Most of the time new hunter causes huge problems! Some hunters keep asking the same question, again and again, that's too much irritating, I experienced it! After doing all of your mentioned stuff, still, people start blaming if a single task goes a miss! No one talks about bounty managers, everyone just sees the result not the hard work behind it!

[abeecrypto]

I have actually felt for bounty managers because I sometimes see the trouble that bounty hunters put them through. Actually, I do vex for some bounty hunters. Especially the ones that cheat and flood the whole telegram group with unecessarry messages.
i didn't know the bounty managers also face a different challenge from the project's team side. I can't imagine how they feel.

[fourpiece]

I know the feeling that is felt by bounty managers that is being blamed by bounty hunters on thier telegram group. Bounty hunters will blame the managers for not giving the reward even the manager already said the spreadsheet is sent to distribution team.

[arbifahrozy]

just stop to be a bounty manager if u don't get that pain. we see now just a few still want to be a bounty manager,such as artezy,bubalex,btcltcdigger. mostly bounty manager already die. probably because they can find a good project,or too tired to managing a stupid bounty participant with sarcasm language.

[Kambal2000]

I know the feeling that is felt by bounty managers that is being blamed by bounty hunters on thier telegram group. Bounty hunters will blame the managers for not giving the reward even the manager already said the spreadsheet is sent to distribution team.

The people are just like that, and it is normal, they will blame for some people or for some reason for psychological reason, and we cannot blame them, but still it's just them who should blame their own selves rather than the bounty manager, as the BM also a human, he's just doing work for a living too and he's taking a risk on it as well. 

[TheICE007]

I understand  the part of the bounty manager, when all blame would go to him by the bounty hunter, first it is the job of the bounty hunter to do some research before joining a project,the manager isn't to blame when the project fails, the fault is from the team who didn't develop a spectacular use case, Repetiton  of use cases makes the project not unique and as such little or no demand.

[ice18]

Management's fault:
They tend to be greedy at one point of time and starts thinking that if they distribute the bounty to the hunters they will dump it anyway nad the value of token will crash down and they dealy the distribution meanwhile the bounty hunters start writing bad about the project and there were instances that the genuine bounty projects were termed as scam for this issue.

Who are you actually referring to managements fault? Is it manager or the developer? In my experience its always the decision of the developer or owner of the project when to distribute tokens because they are also the one who send the token to bounty participants and its not mostly the reason why value of token crash after distribution of bounty no this is not true, one reason I can see is the developer itself dumping huge amount of token greed is the main reason why price is always crashed upon listing on exchange.

[cryp24x]

Personally, I don't really blame the Bounty Managers. Why? There are also victims here. They don't know how the project team final action when the bounty has ended. They are also receiving rewards like us. The tasks of a Bounty Manager is quite hard and requires high reputation and integrity. There are lots of cheaters in a bounty campaign and when the Bounty Manager and his team does their job, cheaters will be eliminated.

[bluebit25]

I think this problem could be solved with a simple BTC payment for the campaign. No more participants must wait for the stupid distribution after working for several months. Managers must not be greedy and they should not accept random unknown campaigns. Then after proper due diligence, the team must use escrow to deal with payments.

Payment with tokens created from thin air is the problem!

It is difficult for new projects to do this way, they don't have the budget to be able to run a bounty with payments in BTC or ETH. In the early stages, the projects only have enough budget for the development of the project, and they need more money to implement an ICO or IEO.

[ven7net]

Yes we are talking about the hassle which the bounty manager goes through and bounties of good projects which fails and the development team ends up with huge loss, as a result, they could not focus on further developments and just don't bother to distribute the bounty tokens to the bounty hunters until the investors trade the tokens or else just shuts down the project.

Management's fault:
They tend to be greedy at one point of time and starts thinking that if they distribute the bounty to the hunters they will dump it anyway nad the value of token will crash down and they dealy the distribution meanwhile the bounty hunters start writing bad about the project and there were instances that the genuine bounty projects were termed as scam for this issue.

Bounty hunter's fault:
Bounty hunter just join any random campaign without investigating and then they are the greediest bunch(not everyone) I have seen while managing the campaigns as one user registers with hundreds of fake accounts and that too their account has followers who have nothing to do with crpto as most of them as desperate who just follows the twitter account by looking at fake DP of some hot girls which are often used by the hunters to gain more followers, moreover, the bounty users enter their ETH address on some other person's profile as well and if the bounty manager does not check that then the cheater will get paid twice and the person who works hard will not be paid, submitting false report is one of the main concern wherein the bounty manager has to check thousands of report and some of them just copy-paste old reports to get reward without working.

Then comes those users who keeps spamming the telegram group by sharing some scam projects and irrelevant stuff from numerous fake profiles.

I think the whole bounty process has become a shithole and the worst part is that the signature campaigns are not entertained by bounties as they want to reach wider audience without knowing that most of the social media campaigns do not reach any real audience as it reaches some fake profiles who follow the bounty hunters just by looking at their picture.

Regardless of the issue, the bounty managers are cursed as if they are paying out of their pocket. Users needs to understand that even bounty managers are paid for their job just like bounty hunters and most of the time even they are not paid for their hardwork. Even a slightest negligence from bounty hunters gets them a negative trust thanks to those merit thirsty users who tries to blame it all on bounty hunters to get a merit.

this is just a brief of not even 5% of pain which bounty managers go through.

Well, if you look for the guilty here, the first of them is the project administration itself. Next comes the manager, who must study this proposal and only draw it up after verification. But why again the participants in the bounty are blamed, I don’t understand. After all, they are precisely the employees who, like investors, are victims of fraud. I don’t think that a bounty participant should conduct an investigation of this or that project, it should be done by the one who first talks about it, namely the bounty manager. And in order to avoid fraud, you need to pay participants every week in cryptocurrency, not in tokens, and then everything will fall into place.

[Coyster]

just stop to be a bounty manager if u don't get that pain. we see now just a few still want to be a bounty manager,such as artezy,bubalex,btcltcdigger. mostly bounty manager already die. probably because they can find a good project,or too tired to managing a stupid bounty participant with sarcasm language.

You cannot advice users not to be bounty managers, as long as they are doing it as a contribution to the bitcoin forum and to ensure that only the very good posters gets paid for their posts. Though there are few users getting hired as bounty managers, because even the projects try to employ the very few mangers that often work for projects(more than one at a time most times). This leaves the upcoming managers who are yet to get any project stranded, this doesn't mean they should give up on their ambitions as bounty managers.

Bounty managers have to be blamed or are blamed if something goes wrong during the project, because it is them that the participants know and not the team behind the project, so as a result of this the managers should do everything possible to make sure they have control of the funds to be given out to participants. Selecting participants is also their duty, so on the issue of spam, it's up to them to remove users who do not comply to that rule and others, one way or another, the power lies in their hands.

[DDante]

I think this problem could be solved with a simple BTC payment for the campaign. No more participants must wait for the stupid distribution after working for several months. Managers must not be greedy and they should not accept random unknown campaigns. Then after proper due diligence, the team must use escrow to deal with payments.

Payment with tokens created from thin air is the problem!

I wish its very easy as you hoped, I know few old projects that do bounties can easily pay bounty hunters in bitcoin or stable coin but what about new projects? Honestly these new projects haven't raised a penny so where are they going to get bitcoin to pay hunters from? The easiest way is to pay hunters in their very own tokens or coins