Pain of a bounty manager.

[minairia3]

I can feel the pain of those managers that being blame along the process if their campaign handled isnt paid those hunters but there is always a discretion on their part that hunters should understand. They are only handling the project and payment for that will come from the team. Unless the project escrow its budget for campaign to the CM. There is one guy who I think good in this, @julerz12 the campaign BMY give him the tokens for the campaign. It's nice to have someone like that in forum.

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[Apened]

We all have the pain in joining a campaign if the project was not true to its investors and promoters . Being a biunty manager is really hard although it is very rewarding because of the highest stakes among all of every individual participants but the work is isn't that really light like the bounty hunters. That was the risk of joining and handling a bounty campaign , we don't have any assurance right from the start.

[Kimonoe]

We are bounty hunters, we work hard day after day. If any project scammed it's really painful for us. Then hunters blame bounty managers. But it's not bounty manager fault. Some Bounty manager are lazy. They don't count hunters stacks properly. I really hate them. And i always respect all good manager who complete his work properly.   

Bounty hunters are just like bounty managers who only work hard to get paid. But it cannot be denied that once a bounty manager cannot fulfill his promise and does not pay the bounty hunters well, he will judge immediately in a negative way. Bounty hunters should also be considerate because both bounty hunters and bounty manager work hard for the success of the project.

when viewed from the side of the bounty manager, sometimes they carry a big burden, because sometimes the project doesn't pay and they become the target of ridicule from the bounty hunter. but I consider all that a risk. all have their own risks. of course we lose time and thought for several months to make the project work

[gensol]

The act of Bounty hunting has lost its initial valor coupled with the never ending bear market situation. You're right moderators gets paid the same way hunters do and we hunters forget that most times they get paid with useless tokens as we do as well. Some sort of regulations as regards bounty exercise will go a long way protecting both the hunters and the campaign moderators.

[patz22]

Money is basically the root of evil and greediness and a lot of people in here - not all doing a lot of accounts but good thing, merit was born. When it comes to joining bounties, I do agree, not all are reading or doing research about the project thinking that bounties are still good last time (2017-early 2018).

[Script3d]

We are bounty hunters, we work hard day after day. If any project scammed it's really painful for us. Then hunters blame bounty managers. But it's not bounty manager fault. Some Bounty manager are lazy. They don't count hunters stacks properly. I really hate them. And i always respect all good manager who complete his work properly.   

Bounty hunters are just like bounty managers who only work hard to get paid. But it cannot be denied that once a bounty manager cannot fulfill his promise and does not pay the bounty hunters well, he will judge immediately in a negative way. Bounty hunters should also be considerate because both bounty hunters and bounty manager work hard for the success of the project.

Most of the time the developers hold the token and im sure they are the ones who distribute not the bounty manager, unless the bounty manager holds the bounty tokens which is unlikely, i do agree bounty hunters should stop blaming bounty manager since the bounty manager only verify the bounty hunters work and not in charge of distributing tokens.

[BTC Future]

Reading this, my smile was getting bigger and bigger, but i couldn't agree more.
Unfortunately bounties nowadays have a really bad rep, and their usefulness to the projects is questionable more often than not.

The truth is, 50% or more bounty hunters have no clue what they're applying for, they just heard from someone "go apply, its free money". Sad part is, around 30% of them don't even speak English (which i think many would agree, is a must in this community).

And no matter how you run your campaign, lenient or very strict, there's at least 10% of them that will call you scammer/bad.

I'm sure many of bounty managers heard the phrase "bounty hunters work very hard". While some really do, and kudos to them, most of them have automated retweeting/liking scripts and usually use a spin-bot on articles.
And then, when i do reward a genuinely good article with bonus stakes, i'm accused of favoritism and am subjected to scrutiny and name calling.

It's a cursed road to walk on, being a bounty manager, but it has it's rewards.

At one point, i even had an idea to create a fake bounty, and clearly call it "FAKE BOUNTY, NO REWARDS GIVEN" and explain in the details that it's a social project with no rewards, just to see how many people will blindly join without reading details.

Everyone that ever worked with you hates you. Make a pole on your shitty channel and see for yourself. Garbage.

[dunfida]

We are bounty hunters, we work hard day after day. If any project scammed it's really painful for us. Then hunters blame bounty managers. But it's not bounty manager fault. Some Bounty manager are lazy. They don't count hunters stacks properly. I really hate them. And i always respect all good manager who complete his work properly.   

Bounty hunters are just like bounty managers who only work hard to get paid. But it cannot be denied that once a bounty manager cannot fulfill his promise and does not pay the bounty hunters well, he will judge immediately in a negative way. Bounty hunters should also be considerate because both bounty hunters and bounty manager work hard for the success of the project.

Most of the time the developers hold the token and im sure they are the ones who distribute not the bounty manager, unless the bounty manager holds the bounty tokens which is unlikely, i do agree bounty hunters should stop blaming bounty manager since the bounty manager only verify the bounty hunters work and not in charge of distributing tokens.

Its rare for the team would give out those tokens on the hands of managers yet most of the time they would be the ones who would distribute those shit tokens in the end of the day.

I can see those blaming in part of bounty managers which come to think that they are just workers too that had been paid by the team itself.They are just handing and organizing the campaign or task given
but doesnt mean they do handle out the payouts. No matter what the situation, there would always be that someone do complain and do call you out badly.I do agree into those words said on OP too.

[totoy4741]

I think most Bounty Managers are paid Ethereum or Bitcoins to handle a certain projects, or if not atleast half of the payments are in fiats and the other half is in token of the project they are campaigning. The ones that would mostly suffers are the hunters, as there are mo assurance of the project would be successful or at least achieve their target cap(softcap, hardcap).

They are paid for their work so actually both bounty manager and bounty hunters can be a victim of scam. Though mostly affected on this is the bounty hunters they got not paid nothing at all for their hard work when they join the campaign. That's the problem when we join no assurance that the project will be successful that is why we should create an investigation before we join.

indeed both accept the risk it seems. but the bounty manager gets paid in the beginning but their reputation gets worse and I don't think it's comparable to those who have built a very good reputation. and for bounty hunters, we have to accept it if we have made sure to join a campaign.

That is what Bounty Manager's are taking care of, their reputations. Because of Bounty Projects their handling their reputations are always at risks cause they never know wether the projects are going to be successful or going to be scam. If only there is someone who could filter every bounties to avoid being scammed.

[Wysi]

This is a bump post to clarify that I am not blindly supporting bounty hunters and targeting bounty managers I have been a bounty manager myself and posted about their pain as well and the reason for my last article about bounty hunters are just to make everyone realise that they deserve respect for their hardwork and shouldn't be judged.

I have been sharing my opinion based on the facts and bias.

Regards to the following post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5288592.msg55571619#msg55571619

[stomachgrowls]

This is a bump post to clarify that I am not blindly supporting bounty hunters and targeting bounty managers I have been a bounty manager myself and posted about their pain as well and the reason for my last article about bounty hunters are just to make everyone realise that they deserve respect for their hardwork and shouldn't be judged.

I have been sharing my opinion based on the facts and bias.

Regards to the following post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5288592.msg55571619#msg55571619

Both parties do have its own weaknesses and strengths but i do agree on the word "RESPECT" and as i had mentioned on the link or thread you had given where this do excludes to those shady managers and
bounty cheaters out there yet these people doesnt deserve any respect or some sort.

Judgement would be subjective and shouldnt be generalize because not all managers are part of the team and just doing their job and not all bounty hunters are cheaters or abusive.

Lets consider who are doing their job or tasks well but you cant really please anyone since there are people who are really that judgmental when it comes to other people.
Once it had spread out then that do really create some generalization among all which is really sad and removing that negative image wont really be that simple.

[nomenclatur]

It cannot be denied that there are still many cheater people who create many accounts to get lots of prizes and people like this always try to get more prizes for their bounty managers they will always get challenges to solve all problems like spammers and cheated people which can be detrimental to the bounty manager, the hard work that bounty managers must do to remove them is of course very difficult to be an honest manager and able to be accountable to all their participants.

[coin-investor]

I can feel the pain of those managers that being blame along the process if their campaign handled isnt paid those hunters but there is always a discretion on their part that hunters should understand. They are only handling the project and payment for that will come from the team. Unless the project escrow its budget for campaign to the CM. There is one guy who I think good in this, @julerz12 the campaign BMY give him the tokens for the campaign. It's nice to have someone like that in forum.

Yes i was part of the campaign Julerz has managed and he escrow the tokens for bounty hunter's protection, although the token is not yet in the market at least the bounty hunters got their token in terms of development of the token, it's on the developers of the token and not on the bounty manager, the manager's task is to see to it that the campaign is clean and the hunter's got their token.

[ibuddy122505]

It cannot be denied that there are still many cheater people who create many accounts to get lots of prizes and people like this always try to get more prizes for their bounty managers they will always get challenges to solve all problems like spammers and cheated people which can be detrimental to the bounty manager, the hard work that bounty managers must do to remove them is of course very difficult to be an honest manager and able to be accountable to all their participants.

It's very tough job indeed, we can't deny it. Farming accounts get it more ridiculous for the bounty manager. I guess, in this way both parties are surviving in the long term. Some hunters very professional of making dump question without reading rules of ant particular campaign. There are lots of member busy on catching those who abused the principles at Scam Accusations thread.

[Jocuserious]

I don't want to blame the bounty manager because a project will be a success or a failure there is nothing for the bounty manager to do. The job of the bounty manager is to create an organisation where the hunters will do their work and the bounty manager will manage the list of those jobs. To participate in the right bounty, you have to exercise your opinion and do enough research.

[dimonstration]

I have never been a bounty manager, but I can understand the pain a bounty manager feels. BM will surely get many complaints and insults from participants who have never read the rules and did not get a stake, even though it is their own mistake.

That's why many bounty managers before are no longer active in having campaign due to complaints as well the many scam projects who appear in the past. Bounties were no longer profitable now unlike before so many really do complain in bounty manager even it's their own fail not reading the rules of the campaign. Only bounty manager who is able to withstand the complaints as well able to research and accept only legit projects will remain as bounty manager.

[janggernaut]

There are lots of member busy on catching those who abused the principles at Scam Accusations thread.

Most of those cheaters have been caught and reported on Reputation thread, not scam accusation. Scam accusation is needed when the project turned to scam and ran away with their ICO/IEO/Defi money.

I don't want to blame the bounty manager because a project will be a success or a failure there is nothing for the bounty manager to do.

Managers MUST do some little research first before he accepting the project they want managed. At least, escrow the bounty funds to them or trusted escrower.

[smyslov]

Regardless of the issue, the bounty managers are cursed as if they are paying out of their pocket. Users needs to understand that even bounty managers are paid for their job just like bounty hunters and most of the time even they are not paid for their hardwork. Even a slightest negligence from bounty hunters gets them a negative trust thanks to those merit thirsty users who tries to blame it all on bounty hunters to get a merit.

this is just a brief of not even 5% of pain which bounty managers go through.

I will never think of applying for bounty manager I know the hardship and the hardship of balancing between the manager and the bounty hunters, some old bounty managers are not doing bounty campaign anymore, because some of them got bad feed backs and some of them stopped because of lack of good projects to manage.

[tukagero]

There are lots of member busy on catching those who abused the principles at Scam Accusations thread.

Most of those cheaters have been caught and reported on Reputation thread, not scam accusation. Scam accusation is needed when the project turned to scam and ran away with their ICO/IEO/Defi money.

I don't want to blame the bounty manager because a project will be a success or a failure there is nothing for the bounty manager to do.

Managers MUST do some little research first before he accepting the project they want managed. At least, escrow the bounty funds to them or trusted escrower.

Maybe some of the managers dont have time to research the project if they were already chosen to run a bounty and the payment for managing has been sent to to them. Only few managers are doing research before they accept a bounty campaign.

[Jocuserious]

There are lots of member busy on catching those who abused the principles at Scam Accusations thread.

Most of those cheaters have been caught and reported on Reputation thread, not scam accusation. Scam accusation is needed when the project turned to scam and ran away with their ICO/IEO/Defi money.

I don't want to blame the bounty manager because a project will be a success or a failure there is nothing for the bounty manager to do.

Managers MUST do some little research first before he accepting the project they want managed. At least, escrow the bounty funds to them or trusted escrower.

In fact, professional manager always do more research on a project. so many times the manager idea is wrong, so there is nothing wrong with the manager. If the ICO/IEO of a project goes to fails then there is no mistake of bounty manager. Also at this time almost all the projects are cheating and scamming where many managers are not willing to manage the bounty at this time.