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[Coin_trader]

I just like to give you a heads up about Duelbits evolution gaming live blackjack update. They are now offering a cashout to your bet in every decision making that you will made. A high card while dealer card is low will give you an early cashout with profit and vice versa. This is different to the normal surrender because you can still click cash out even if you already hit a card as long as you are still on decision phase of the game but of course the amount varies base on winning probability of your card.

I don’t know if this feature is available on other casino but I only see this feature on Duelbits but maybe other casino that I’m not playing offers this too. Take the chance to enjoy this feature because it increase your winning probability and reduce risk if you play well without being affected by your emotion.

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[Beparanf]

I just like to give you a heads up about Duelbits evolution gaming live blackjack update. They are now offering a cashout to your bet in every decision making that you will made. A high card while dealer card is low will give you an early cashout with profit and vice versa. This is different to the normal surrender because you can still click cash out even if you already hit a card as long as you are still on decision phase of the game but of course the amount varies base on winning probability of your card.

I don’t know if this feature is available on other casino but I only see this feature on Duelbits but maybe other casino that I’m not playing offers this too. Take the chance to enjoy this feature because it increase your winning probability and reduce risk if you play well without being affected by your emotion.

Stake has this kind of option long time ago even on there exclusive table on evolution gaming. I’m not playing anymore blackjack on Duelbits but I’m surprised that they adapt this feature too.  I have a terrible experience on Stake using this cashout button because you will lose confidence on your card in case the dealer card is above 7 even though your card is still good to beat the dealer with just one good hit.

With this feature, You will be scared hitting additional if your card count is above 11. Simply you will just lose confidence stepping out to your comfort zone and keeps accepting loss all through put your game. This is good technically but it’s very hard to fight emotion when that is the problem.

[Coin_trader]

I just like to give you a heads up about Duelbits evolution gaming live blackjack update. They are now offering a cashout to your bet in every decision making that you will made. A high card while dealer card is low will give you an early cashout with profit and vice versa. This is different to the normal surrender because you can still click cash out even if you already hit a card as long as you are still on decision phase of the game but of course the amount varies base on winning probability of your card.

I don’t know if this feature is available on other casino but I only see this feature on Duelbits but maybe other casino that I’m not playing offers this too. Take the chance to enjoy this feature because it increase your winning probability and reduce risk if you play well without being affected by your emotion.

Stake has this kind of option long time ago even on there exclusive table on evolution gaming. I’m not playing anymore blackjack on Duelbits but I’m surprised that they adapt this feature too.  I have a terrible experience on Stake using this cashout button because you will lose confidence on your card in case the dealer card is above 7 even though your card is still good to beat the dealer with just one good hit.

Thanks for sharing the info about Stake.com. I’m not playing there most of the time and I didn’t notice that they already had this feature too. Stake has an exclusive table from evolution gaming same to Duelbits. I believe casino that has exclusive table for blackjack on evolution have this kind of special customization on there blackjack table.

With this feature, You will be scared hitting additional if your card count is above 11. Simply you will just lose confidence stepping out to your comfort zone and keeps accepting loss all through put your game. This is good technically but it’s very hard to fight emotion when that is the problem.

That is why I mention that you should play by the book and don’t let your emotion control you. I suggest to create a specific rule book that will indicate decision making in different scenarios so that you can use it as guide in case your emotion is messing your game.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I just like to give you a heads up about Duelbits evolution gaming live blackjack update. They are now offering a cashout to your bet in every decision making that you will made. A high card while dealer card is low will give you an early cashout with profit and vice versa. This is different to the normal surrender because you can still click cash out even if you already hit a card as long as you are still on decision phase of the game but of course the amount varies base on winning probability of your card.

I don’t know if this feature is available on other casino but I only see this feature on Duelbits but maybe other casino that I’m not playing offers this too. Take the chance to enjoy this feature because it increase your winning probability and reduce risk if you play well without being affected by your emotion.

Stake has this kind of option long time ago even on there exclusive table on evolution gaming. I’m not playing anymore blackjack on Duelbits but I’m surprised that they adapt this feature too.  I have a terrible experience on Stake using this cashout button because you will lose confidence on your card in case the dealer card is above 7 even though your card is still good to beat the dealer with just one good hit.

With this feature, You will be scared hitting additional if your card count is above 11. Simply you will just lose confidence stepping out to your comfort zone and keeps accepting loss all through put your game. This is good technically but it’s very hard to fight emotion when that is the problem.

If that function is on stake.com, I haven't played duelbtis black jack for a long time, but it seems very good to me, although as they have said before, I consider this a double-edged sword, but there are some players who like the function and take advantage of it, and do not take into account the apparent risks that it may entail, so for me it is a very good option, for others I do not know, but I find it very pleasant that Duelbits is putting all this in their games, that means that is putting the best updates so that its players stay there even more hooked, this is something that I admire, because I know that they are doing their best to continue believing and be at the level of the greatest.

[virasisog]

I've been applying different patterns and strategies in Blackjack but there's no specific way to have a winning streak. It always breaks after two to five winning cards that's the reason why I still consider it luck based game because for me, skilled doesn't really work on it all the time. Maybe for some time but not that often. However, Blackjack is still entertaining and addictive, to be honest.

[Zackgeno96]

There are many different ideas to make roulette profitable. Could it be that you have a big disadvantage with roulette and that the house edge is always at least 5%? In roulette you have the problem that you have a 0 in the scoreboards, but how are the statistics in Roulette? Several robots have also been created that tell you exactly what to do with a card. Too bad that counting cards no longer works due to the high number of decks.

[OgNasty]

I've been applying different patterns and strategies in Blackjack but there's no specific way to have a winning streak. It always breaks after two to five winning cards that's the reason why I still consider it luck based game because for me, skilled doesn't really work on it all the time. Maybe for some time but not that often. However, Blackjack is still entertaining and addictive, to be honest.

I think the entertainment factor is the biggest one.  All of these games are setup to where the house always wins in the end.  Winning streaks are just anomalies which usually don't last too long.  I think all of these games are luck based and the only real part where skill comes into play is when to step away with your winnings if you're ever lucky enough to get ahead in the first place.  People do enjoy playing though, so bad odds or not, if it's a good time you're going to find somebody doing it, no matter how much it costs them.

[Saint-loup]

If that function is on stake.com, I haven't played duelbtis black jack for a long time, but it seems very good to me, although as they have said before, I consider this a double-edged sword, but there are some players who like the function and take advantage of it, and do not take into account the apparent risks that it may entail, so for me it is a very good option, for others I do not know, but I find it very pleasant that Duelbits is putting all this in their games, that means that is putting the best updates so that its players stay there even more hooked, this is something that I admire, because I know that they are doing their best to continue believing and be at the level of the greatest.

I didn't understand what you mean, it's a very good option for you or a double-edged sword at the end? It sounds a little bit contradictory. Did you manage to make profits thanks to it actually? IMO it's like the games where you can bet on Teen Patti outcomes, odds are smaller than the real ones to happen and at the end you lose money in the long run by using it. Anyway it could be useful to protect your bankroll if it starts to be critically low.

[Poker Player]

I'm probably biased but I've never quite understood why people want to take Blackjack seriously.

The OP's image says that the perfect strategy cuts the casino edge to 0.5%. But it is still EV-. You have to learn strategy and card counting, which nowadays is often useless. I think it is worth using that time to learn other games where you can make EV+ moves, earning money regardless of the commissions charged by the casino.

I'm referring to poker obviously, and that's why I say I'm probably biased.

For me casino games, like roulette for example, have a component of entertainment, of fun, and you don't have to make an effort. You don't have to spend hours trying hard to learn roulette strategies (which you're not going to do unless you're a moron). In poker, on the other hand, with study time and effort you make a profit.

With blackjack, despite the effort in learning strategy and card counting,  I doubt that the percentage of people who make a profit is even 1% compared to poker.

[Coin_trader]

I'm probably biased but I've never quite understood why people want to take Blackjack seriously.

The OP's image says that the perfect strategy cuts the casino edge to 0.5%. But it is still EV-. You have to learn strategy and card counting, which nowadays is often useless. I think it is worth using that time to learn other games where you can make EV+ moves, earning money regardless of the commissions charged by the casino.

I'm referring to poker obviously, and that's why I say I'm probably biased.

For me casino games, like roulette for example, have a component of entertainment, of fun, and you don't have to make an effort. You don't have to spend hours trying hard to learn roulette strategies (which you're not going to do unless you're a moron). In poker, on the other hand, with study time and effort you make a profit.

With blackjack, despite the effort in learning strategy and card counting,  I doubt that the percentage of people who make a profit is even 1% compared to poker.

I do understand the point here as I try to study too poker guides but one thing I can only say was Poker is not for everybody due to its competitive characteristics. Not all gamblers mind is tailored to play like a pro in poker. Playing poker without having the talent is just like playing typical gambling games with -EV because most likely you will be dominated by other that undergo on the proper training.

I personally preferred the simplicity of Blackjack compared to Poker. Gambling against player somehow makes me feel uncomfortable especially that I’m really not good on card probability.

The only thing that makes me positive on blackjack is the pay rate of 1.5 on Blackjack and a chance to double down for extra profit. This way we can have a little bit edge against the banker if we only play it smart.

Poker is indeed the only games with +EV IF you are good on it. I know my skills and I don’t want to contribute my money to the profit of clever poker player so I decided to stick with Blackjack that has low house edge with extra bonus pay on BJ.

[Mauser]

I open for discussion about strategy and experience during the game including psychological effect of Blackjack during the game. I will share here my statistics on my Blackjack weekly so that
I can track my PnL.  

Good luck with your black jack career, hopefully you are going to make some money with it. Black Jack is together with roulette the oldest gambling games I know and I still love the game today after playing it for so long. After poker is black jack my second favourite card game. The rules are very easy so that you can learn it quickly and make your own strategies with it. There are also quite a few casino movies around the topic of card counting in black jack. Which is the only proven strategy that shifts the winning chances in the favor of the gamblers. That's why most casinos ban gamblers who are being caught counting cards. In high school we calculated probabilities of a few different strategies to find out the house edge. For me it's difficult to stay profitable over a longer period of time, but I still enjoy playing black jack regularly.

[SirLancelot]

I've been applying different patterns and strategies in Blackjack but there's no specific way to have a winning streak. It always breaks after two to five winning cards that's the reason why I still consider it luck based game because for me, skilled doesn't really work on it all the time. Maybe for some time but not that often. However, Blackjack is still entertaining and addictive, to be honest.

I think the entertainment factor is the biggest one.  All of these games are setup to where the house always wins in the end.  Winning streaks are just anomalies which usually don't last too long.  I think all of these games are luck based and the only real part where skill comes into play is when to step away with your winnings if you're ever lucky enough to get ahead in the first place.  People do enjoy playing though, so bad odds or not, if it's a good time you're going to find somebody doing it, no matter how much it costs them.

If it's only about entertainment then I think there are more fun games to play out there than black jack. For me, I will only play blackjack if I want to possibly double my money and bet more in size because this game has a less house edge, same with roulette. If you have some experience in the game then that can also help increase your chances of winning.

A winning streak is hard but can happen if our luck is with us. It is hard for us to quit once we are winning so you might be right, that it takes a skill. Other than winning, there are gamblers who have a difficulty of quitting once they lose because they are going to redeposit again and again. This is bad and must be fixed asap.

[BitcoinAccepted]

You can play blackjack in different ways and also approach it in different ways. you could say you have a certain advantage or disadvantage that as a player you have to say that you want to continue or fold if you have 15. The bank always has the advantage because if he has 16 with 2 cards then he has already won, while if you have 16 you would actually fold yourself. I'm certainly not a blackjack specialist, but it seems to me to be one of those games where you as a player have a fairly large statistical disadvantage.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

With blackjack, despite the effort in learning strategy and card counting,  I doubt that the percentage of people who make a profit is even 1% compared to poker.

First, I would like to start by saying that every game is fun in their different ways, and to different players, I bet a core blackjack lover would disagree with you where you said that blackjack is not fun to play, maybe you forgot that a man's food can be another man's poison.

I personally do not know how to play blackjack but I've always wanted to learn it, but with all you said, I am discouraged from learning it, it seems like one of those odd games reserved for the elderly or OGs  who already know all of the intricacies and mechanics of the game, and that is the only chance the player has at ever winning, which simply means there is no, or close to no chance for new players to make a profit.

[Saint-loup]

I'm probably biased but I've never quite understood why people want to take Blackjack seriously.

The OP's image says that the perfect strategy cuts the casino edge to 0.5%. But it is still EV-. You have to learn strategy and card counting, which nowadays is often useless. I think it is worth using that time to learn other games where you can make EV+ moves, earning money regardless of the commissions charged by the casino.

I'm referring to poker obviously, and that's why I say I'm probably biased.

For me casino games, like roulette for example, have a component of entertainment, of fun, and you don't have to make an effort. You don't have to spend hours trying hard to learn roulette strategies (which you're not going to do unless you're a moron). In poker, on the other hand, with study time and effort you make a profit.

With blackjack, despite the effort in learning strategy and card counting,  I doubt that the percentage of people who make a profit is even 1% compared to poker.

I disagree with you because Poker is a social game, so you can only hope a positive EV if you play against players weaker than you. And if you play against stronger players the EV can turn to be awful. Blackjack is a casino game, so the EV doesn't change and is known by the player. Then if you are a good blackjack player who is able to play without doing mistakes and to keep the house edge as lowest as possible, you can get a positive EV at the end thanks to the tournaments, bonuses and promotions offered by casinos.
Anyway on which casinos/gambling sites are you playing Poker precisely? Which ones do you recommend?

[Coin_trader]

Sharing my recent huge win on Blackjack. I rarely bet above 50$ on each table but I don't what comes to my mind to bet a 100$ each for 2 tables on Freebet Blackjack. I become curious on what's the feeling of betting a huge amount at that time and I really feel that I can get a free double at that time. Luckily I get 1 Blackjack and the other is 11 which is eligible for free double and turns out to be a perfect 21. Good thing that the dealer total count is not 21 at that time to make this round a complete success.

Do you have this kind of experience in which you knew that you will win on your next bet and it actually happened with a huge bet?

[dimonstration]

Sharing my recent huge win on Blackjack. I rarely bet above 50$ on each table but I don't what comes to my mind to bet a 100$ each for 2 tables on Freebet Blackjack. I become curious on what's the feeling of betting a huge amount at that time and I really feel that I can get a free double at that time. Luckily I get 1 Blackjack and the other is 11 which is eligible for free double and turns out to be a perfect 21. Good thing that the dealer total count is not 21 at that time to make this round a complete success.

Do you have this kind of experience in which you knew that you will win on your next bet and it actually happened with a huge bet?

Solid win you got there with a lot of luck. I’m assuming that you’ve got nervous when the dealer show up 2 card is 11 since most of the time the dealer will hit 10 on this freebet blackjack. I really hate this table now because I keep losing while my hands is 20 and always tie when I get a double down or split. It’s very rare for me to experience a long win streak on this game because of that tie on 22 thing.

I do experience this kind of high roller bet when I have a bankroll of more than 2000$. But I’m using VIP table for less player so that I can focus on my bet. I believe the highest bet I made so far on a single bet is 500$ and won it with a blackjack just like your cards.

[Coin_trader]

I’m assuming that you’ve got nervous when the dealer show up 2 card is 11 since most of the time the dealer will hit 10 on this freebet blackjack.

Not at all because I’m not looking when the dealer reveal his card. I already leave the game interfaced right after I click the advance free double down button to avoid being jinx my win besides I already won a sure 50$ from my Blackjack hand even if my second loss or not so I become confident and less nervous on this bet when I saw the first Blackjack. 

I really hate this table now because I keep losing while my hands is 20 and always tie when I get a double down or split. It’s very rare for me to experience a long win streak on this game because of that tie on 22 thing.

I do experience this kind of high roller bet when I have a bankroll of more than 2000$. But I’m using VIP table for less player so that I can focus on my bet. I believe the highest bet I made so far on a single bet is 500$ and won it with a blackjack just like your cards.

You should change table immediately when you feel that the dealer is always very lucky on his hand. I notice on playing long on live Blackjack that there’s a dealer or specific table that keeps the house win no matter how good your card is. Also take notice about the winning streak of the stable. If most of the user get 5 or more streak then leave that table right after the streak since it will be a bloody lose streak next for all the players who will continue the session.

Just play on a table for a short time then move on to another table and find your sweet spot.