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I didn't remove it but two people reported it as off topic/low value.
Can't the affected post be reinstated? Meanwhile I don't understand why this got deleted. Topic was about how we lost our Bitcoins. A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted. Yeah, on an old laptop I used to mine BTC a decade ago.
Forgot to save the wallet credentials and it's gone. Can't remember what's the amount though.
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May 01, 2020, 09:40:24 AM |
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I didn't remove it but two people reported it as off topic/low value.
Can't the affected post be reinstated? Meanwhile I don't understand why this got deleted. Topic was about how we lost our Bitcoins. A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted. Yeah, on an old laptop I used to mine BTC a decade ago.
Forgot to save the wallet credentials and it's gone. Can't remember what's the amount though. There's no report in the queue so I don't know what it was removed for or from where. Was it in a necrobumped thread or something? Lemmie just slow clap whichever mod did this: A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted. Bump again - will remove previous bump shortly. (they didn't remove the "previous bump", rather just the updated bump...) <Slow> <clap> Is that why you've gone on a report spree this morning reporting undeleted bumps from years ago?
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May 01, 2020, 09:44:05 AM |
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There's no report in the queue so I don't know what it was removed for or from where. Was it in a necrobumped thread or something?
I don't think so, although the topic has existed for quite some time before I made the post.
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May 01, 2020, 11:05:48 AM |
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Is that why you've gone on a report spree this morning reporting undeleted bumps from years ago?
Funny, I was about to ask you the same thing (and it was two days ago) ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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I don't think so, although the topic has existed for quite some time before I made the post. What's the original topic? It's possible that a "shifting necropost" caused posts to be reported & deleted, subsequently moving replies upward to where they are the new source of a necrobump.
I have seen this happen a few times and reported some of them myself: replies chained to a root of an insubstantial necrobump are equivalently infected with the lack of substance, in my opinion.
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May 01, 2020, 11:31:48 AM |
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I don't think so, although the topic has existed for quite some time before I made the post. What's the original topic? It's possible that a "shifting necropost" caused posts to be reported & deleted, subsequently moving replies upward to where they are the new source of a necrobump.
I have seen this happen a few times and reported some of them myself: replies chained to a root of an insubstantial necrobump are equivalently infected with the lack of substance, in my opinion. It was titled, "How did you lose your Bitcoin?"
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Sorry, but I have to remind, that this thread was created for a discussion about the lack of information that we receive about the deleted posts. I see that members start to post their deleted posts here and ask for reasons, but this is off-topic and from now I will report all these posts.
There are many other threads created for the purpose of reporting problematic deleted posts or one should open a new one, please don't do this in this thread. This is not the first time I remind about this, so it's obvious that many haven't read the thread properly or just don't care.
I keep asking for more information we receive about deleted posts and maybe to change/improve the actual system if possible?
The most important problem and the question asked when posts are deleted is the (unknown) reason behind such a decision. To improve this situation, a simple description would be enough: spam, off-topic, low-quality and could be added to every message about the deleted post. I don't know how it looks like coding wise, but it seems like a simple improvement that could spare a lot of work for mods and confusion for members.
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I keep asking for more information we receive about deleted posts and maybe to change/improve the actual system if possible?
The most important problem and the question asked when posts are deleted is the (unknown) reason behind such a decision. To improve this situation, a simple description would be enough: spam, off-topic, low-quality and could be added to every message about the deleted post. I don't know how it looks like coding wise, but it seems like a simple improvement that could spare a lot of work for mods and confusion for members.
If you'd like you can " opt in" to any reports that I handle of yours in the future which were considered bad reports, and I can shoot you a quick message explaining the reasoning after I've handled them. I'm not sure how many reports I've handled of yours in the past, but I'm not bothered about messaging users if they've made bad reports, and want to improve. If anyone would like to receive a message after I've marked a report of yours bad, just send me a message stating so.
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May 20, 2020, 11:51:31 PM Last edit: May 21, 2020, 07:08:16 AM by wwzsocki |
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...If you'd like you can "opt in" to any reports that I handle of yours in the future which were considered bad reports, and I can shoot you a quick message explaining the reasoning after I've handled them. I'm not sure how many reports I've handled of yours in the past, but I'm not bothered about messaging users if they've made bad reports, and want to improve...
The bad reports are not the problem here, because I have only 28 of them compared to 2850 reports I already made, which is only 1%, I assume is a good average. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FWqvBkPg.png&t=665&c=l0PUt_shibE-Ag) The problem I wanted to discuss is the lack of info we receive when our posts are deleted. We got literally nothing and at least the link to a thread from which it was removed and the post number should be shared. Of course, this is the minimal amount of information we need to be able to find these deleted posts, especially, if we are speaking about old posts.
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@Welsh, yes I'd like to take you up on your offer, thank you.
@wwzsocki I'd be interested to hear what the number of handled is for other users and if such a low number such as you have is typical across the board?
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May 21, 2020, 07:13:19 AM |
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...I'd be interested to hear what the number of handled is for other users and if such a low number such as you have is typical across the board?
Here are two treads I have seen just recently in which members share their reports statistics, maybe this will be helpful for you. Reporter StatisticsTop reporters!
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May 21, 2020, 09:07:23 AM |
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The bad reports are not the problem here, because I have only 28 of them compared to 2850 reports I already made, which is only 1%, I assume is a good average.
My offer can extend both ways. If you want to have an explanation on why a post has been deleted as long as I'm the one that's handled it I can do that too. I think this is quite a common thing for staff to do if its a particularly complex report anyway. Obviously, for higher ranks I only moderate a few sections. You could also message me even if I wasn't the one that handled it, and I could give you my opinion on why it was deleted. Don't quote me on this, but I believe I saw that Epochtalk allows for leaving a message with a deleted post. @Welsh, yes I'd like to take you up on your offer, thank you.
No worries, I'll keep a list of users, and be a little more vigilant of who's reported, and who's been reported from now on.
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My offer can extend both ways. If you want to have an explanation on why a post has been deleted as long as I'm the one that's handled it I can do that too. I think this is quite a common thing for staff to do if its a particularly complex report anyway. Obviously, for higher ranks I only moderate a few sections. You could also message me even if I wasn't the one that handled it, and I could give you my opinion on why it was deleted. Don't quote me on this, but I believe I saw that Epochtalk allows for leaving a message with a deleted post.
Omg yes please, I'd like to know too. Another one I got, seriously this is getting annoying. A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted. Those are some great facts, i enjoy the reading... I didn't know the first faucets were up to 5 btc, that's crazy, with the current price that would be like $50k, epic right?
Thanks for the article and i will read the full one on the link you share to see the other fun facts.
Yeah, because no one expected it to boom all the way to its current price. It's rare to know who would actually store and not spend all their Bitcoins from the last decade.
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May 21, 2020, 12:00:07 PM Last edit: May 21, 2020, 08:16:29 PM by wwzsocki |
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My offer can extend both ways. If you want to have an explanation on why a post has been deleted...You could also message me even if I wasn't the one that handled it, and I could give you my opinion...
Of course, I will be very happy to opt-in. Thank you very much for this offer and additionally, it would be great to have the possibility, to ask you for a second look and opinion. TBH posts removals by moderators happened to me very rare on this forum and that was the second reason to open this thread. In the last 5 years, only a few of my posts were removed by mods, and in the last 3 years almost none. That is why, I was so surprised to have two good posts removed from one board in a row, additionally confused about the true reasons behind this decision, but this is already explained in this thread and for me, it's obvious that moderator misused his power in this situation. Anyways, I am not willing to take any steps further to look for justice because it was the first time and I am such a person, that I rather give the second chance (even not deserved) than look for punishment or to make problems to somebody. That is why the main narrative for this thread was and still is, to start a discussion about the minimum amount of information we need to receive when post is deleted by a moderator and to change something in a polite way. It will be great if more mods would do this same and provide more information by themselves. Another one I got, seriously this is getting annoying...
I already asked few times to not publish deleted posts in this thread, please. If you ask for a second opinion, then sorry, but for me, this post is at least spammy TBH, has low value and adds nothing to the discussion, additionally, you quoted everything, this also looks bad and in my opinion, wasn't needed. I wouldn't report such a post, but understand the reasoning behind the removal and agree fully with such a decision. Members tend to forget about the low-value rule and that published posts should add something to the thread and discussion. It is not enough to write two lines of nonsense.
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I'm just parking this post here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5269659.0A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted. Does it make any changes when I Distrust you or remove you from my list? I just don't trust your judgement on somethings and that's already enough for me to have you ~ Just like what I said you can always put me on your ~ list
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Your actions were being scrutinized, not being attacked. Your subsequent actions were therefore offensive, not defensive. You need to deescalate your hostility towards me for merely putting your actions up to scrutiny. You're wanting me to escalate my response towards you is not warranted as you appear to want to play the victim card. Post 6,100 As you can see it was a direct reply to a series of previous comments between myself and the other person (none of which have been deleted). You can also notice my post is on topic as it is also an attempt by myself to deescalate hostility by the other person towards myself, yet a moderator felt such action shouldn't occur. In effect the moderator or admin is trying to en-flame the situation by making it appear I have not responded one way or the other. Is this the kind of moderator we want in the Forum?
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I'm just parking this post here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5269659.0As you can see it was a direct reply to a series of previous comments between myself and the other person (none of which have been deleted). You can also notice my post is on topic as it is also an attempt by myself to deescalate hostility by the other person towards myself, yet a moderator felt such action shouldn't occur. In effect the moderator or admin is trying to en-flame the situation by making it appear I have not responded one way or the other. Is this the kind of moderator we want in the Forum? I hate to sound like that guy, but I don't think whoever that deleted such posts (excluding those plagiarized ones) would show up to clarify things. Surely he or she would not find any basis to counter whatever you throw at him or her. So, just delete and hope you'd just forget about it and move along. Not too long ago on my end. A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted. If you go to official websites to get official links to apps on app store or Google play, you will not be trapped by fake apps like what the topic you quoted warn. You should never pay your funds on the carefulness or responsibility of Google or Apple to check and 100% prevent fake apps to be listed on their stores. They should do because it is good for their app ecosystem, and their reputation but you in your own side has to be responsible for your fund's safety and security. That's not always the case. Legit sites can also be compromised to host the malicious files. For apps, any update injected could also be malicious, and not just the client from the Play Store.
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I have a question regarding deleting posts and i hope it is relevant too. If anyone report a post, is it deleted on the basis of how many members reported it or it can be deleted on the basis of a single report ?
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I hate to sound like that guy, but I don't think whoever that deleted such posts (excluding those plagiarized ones) would show up to clarify things.
Hmm... perhaps you *are* that guy after all? Omg yes please, I'd like to know too.
Another one I got, seriously this is getting annoying.
As was discussed in this thread previously, what one admin/mod will delete isn't necessarily what another admin/mod would delete. So there is no uniformity, much less conformity.
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I have a question regarding deleting posts and i hope it is relevant too. If anyone report a post, is it deleted on the basis of how many members reported it or it can be deleted on the basis of a single report ? A single report can lead to a post's deletion. You don't need multiple sources to get a post deleted, though it may add duplicate entries in the report queue.
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I have a question regarding deleting posts and i hope it is relevant too. If anyone report a post, is it deleted on the basis of how many members reported it or it can be deleted on the basis of a single report ?
It's better for a mod to answer but AFAIK, it's not about the number. A comment that has been reported multiple times would probably be more noticeable in mod's dashboard (or whatever they call it) but they will still examine the validity of the report. If the reason is valid, one report should be enough to delete a post. There are also times when two users report a comment for different reasons. One can be marked as bad and the other as good depending on the accuracy.
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