[LIKELY SCAM] Antminer group buy

[lowerjerzey]

It was absolutely unfeasible as per my reply to your so called "calculations" here...

Buyers remorse, I get it.  Your calculation is wrong. He paid 15 BTC, he makes 15 BTC from sales, profit so far = zero. Mining, ok I'll give you 3 BTC, fine.  3BTC - psu's - switches - wires - fans - probably those shelves - miscellaneous = zero profit so far.  If he sells all his shares, he no longer owns those antminers.  What he does own is 8% of the mining, 15 psu's, 15 fans, and a bunch of miscellaneous hardware clear and free, with no profit made thus far.  The diminishing 8% or 0.021BTC per day is no incentive for him to keep hosting. In 11 days, if the total hashrate trend doesn't change, his 8% turns into 0.017BTC per day. It's all downhill from here. In a month from now, I bet it will be 0.009. You really think that this guy will want to continue to host for peanuts. Your fooling yourself and so is he.

and here...

Buyers remorse, I get it.
3BTC                $1800 -
15 decent psu's  $1500
1 16 port switch $ 150
15 decent fans   $ 150
miscellaneous     $ pick a number

total                 $0 -  pick a number

or he's a terrible host buying terrible equipment

3BTC                $1800 -
15 crap psu's     $1000
1 crap switch     $ 75
15 crap fans      $ 75
miscellaneous     $ pick a number

total                 $650 - pick a number

If he bought crap equipment, then he definitely sucks.

I actually started to feel bad until the idiocy continued.

1. He doesn't work for the electric company of Belgium. I can't believe that you actually believe that.
2. You have no idea if Yannik Bindo is his real name or a real person.  The real Yannik Bindo may have just been set up. Yannik Bindo Milembo has zero online presence. I searched him, his gaming buddies, and his brother Cedric. Him and his brother have zero online presence except for gaming tournament results and gambling stats "from 8 years ago!" His buddies, on the other hand, have youtube channels and google+ accounts. I bet if you contact them and inquire about him, they'll probably say something crazy like him and his brother were killed in a car accident years ago.

edit: If he used his real birthday, which was probably required by the gambling/gaming tournament sites, he was 18 when the only signs of his existence appear on the web.

2nd edit: Which makes him a perfect candidate to pretend to be when scamming.
Or, he truly is a dumbass and used his real name

[Forexperiments]

I repeat that, in my opinion, on his side, make 19 btc paying 15 with no risk, it was a good deal.
And on our side, making 10% with risk, was still a good deal, as, as far as I know, there isn't a SINGLE hosted mining that's profitable for shareholders. I searched, there aren't. All hosting mining offers won't give any return on investment, from cex.io to pbmining

The problem is that this f*cker now made 25 btc paying 15.
I hope that he really dies in a car accident.

[lowerjerzey]

I repeat that, in my opinion, on his side, make 19 btc paying 15 with no risk, it was a good deal.
And on our side, making 10% with risk, was still a good deal, as, as far as I know, there isn't a SINGLE hosted mining that's profitable for shareholders. I searched, there aren't. All hosting mining offers won't give any return on investment, from cex.io to pbmining

The problem is that this f*cker now made 25 btc paying 15.
I hope that he really dies in a car accident.

Sorry but you seem to struggle with basic math and logic. No wonder why you got took.

[Forexperiments]

ok, since you're such an expert, point me to a profitable mining hosting
thanks

[Mayuyu48]

*sigh* so it's scam 
i've got PM from OP and wanna buy some shares

Hello,

If you buy shares (less than 36) then every sunday you get your payout on your chosen payout adres - 8% fee for me,
IF you buy 36 shares then you get the antminer changed immediatly to your stratum + your worker and every sunday you will have to send me the 8% you earned in the week. If you have any questions feel free to ask.

lucky for me, i saw lowerjerzey's post warning people don't buy this shares (thanks for warning)
and i decided to postpone my transaction with OP
free electricity is too good to be true   

[lowerjerzey]

ok, since you're such an expert, point me to a profitable mining hosting
thanks

Jeez, here we go again. A guarantee profit doesn't exist, but making a profit potentially exist.  You're trying to hunt down a guarantee.  Keep looking, you'll never find it. You thought you found it here and look how that turned out. Also, I haven't once claimed that any hosted mining was profitable. Not sure what made you come to that conclusion.  I've only stated that in this group buy, the host is shafting himself while the shareholders make out so why host.  <<---see this statement to find out why hosts charge the fees that they do charge. You keep looking for the freebie. Again, keep looking. And if you do find another one, try to use your brain and try to remember what happened to you here.

[Drai]

I'm still hoping he doesn't leave this way.

I'm sure he was using real name on skype, connecting without the use of TOR or something like that.

At the moment, all decisions was of him. Can we be passive spectators? I don't think this may be right.

[Forexperiments]

After more than a week, this is highly unlikely.
I think he had honest intentions in the beginning (hence using real names and such), but then he realized that he could run away and nobody will get to him (thanks again to lowerjerzey to persuade him to disappear, thanks a lot)

[lowerjerzey]

I think he had honest intentions in the beginning (hence using real names and such)

He had honest intentions? He used his real name? You have proof?

(thanks again to lowerjerzey to persuade him to disappear, thanks a lot)

You are quite welcome! I'm more than happy to foil a scam. I also have no problem being your personal scapegoat. If placing the blame on me instead of your own stupidity makes you feel better, I'm fine with that.

I prevented this guy from stealing a lot of BTC. I too almost fell for it. If he played his cards correctly and made his operation look more legit, I probably would have risked buying a few shares and I'm sure many more would have too. Once I realized that he is a dumbass and making the deal too good to be true with practically no fee and the guise of free electricity, the BS meter went off the charts.

I have no doubt that if I, or anybody else, did not call this guy out, he would have sold all his shares, then skipped town.

[corwin]

I think he had honest intentions in the beginning (hence using real names and such), but then he realized that he could run away and nobody will get to him (thanks again to lowerjerzey to persuade him to disappear, thanks a lot)

u so naive,
you owe lowerjerzey. at least you should tell him - sorry my mistake...

[Forexperiments]

you owe lowerjerzey

OWE WHAT?
This idiot wrote "bye" just a few hours before the payout!!!!
You think you're an hero, you just destroyed people money!

[corwin]

you owe lowerjerzey

OWE WHAT?

you owe "sorry" to him, it was YOUR mistake not his

You think you're an hero

false

you just destroyed people money!

how did i ?

[Forexperiments]

not you, i was talking about lowerjerzey

[lowerjerzey]

I'm more of an anti-hero. Heroes don't call victims stupid and douches.

[klondike_bar]

you owe lowerjerzey

OWE WHAT?
This idiot wrote "bye" just a few hours before the payout!!!!
You think you're an hero, you just destroyed people money!

you think this became a scam BECAUSE lowerjersey decided to quote the OP's massive bolded rant about one more straw before he ditches?

If the OP used his real info and was actually TRYING to be legitimate, why has he not returned to apologize (or give a second chance) or refund the scammed money? Why has noone figured out his real info (who uses bitcoin but has no facebook account?)?

Simple fact: it was a scam from the start. He was going to sell as many shares as he could and pay out dividends as long as it took to reach a maximum number of invested BTC to cover the costs of his private farm, then ditch.   He was called out repeatedly as a scammer using unfeasible promises to the point that no one else wanted to invest (ie: he hit the maximum number of investments) and disappeared as was predicted.

[Drai]

who uses bitcoin but has no facebook account?

I've not!

Why has noone figured out his real info?

Because was not so difficult. At least that was what appeared...

[Drai]

Hi all,
I mean, he give me his mobile phone number: +32485191224
and here is also known his ip address on March 23: 81.242.86.128

Really easy to geo locate!

[Forexperiments]

when you gave?
this phone it works?

[Drai]

He gave me by pm, on request as a requirement to join his GB

[Forexperiments]

did you try to call?