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April 05, 2020, 07:02:23 PM
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The forum will not do it for you and theymos will not moderate bounties or demand to be paid for announcements or campaigns that people want to run on the forum.

This should be your responsibility as a bounty hunter to do research and tell others about scams. The community should go hard on developers who don't pay their employees and that's who you are as a bounty hunter. You're doing a job for them and should be paid for it.

agree with this one, that is a business relation, no matter how low the level of that interaction is, they are advertising job, you do that job for them, and that should be paid for

i had some projects that actually did something else - accepted your work - i did an article, and then at some point, sometimes months after campaign ended, they announced new form that should be filled-in for reward, with twitter or telegram announcement only, and than paid only hunters that fulfilled that new form, which is, if not scam, that not in relation with business logic, most of these projects were bound to fail, because project leaders are not following business logic
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April 05, 2020, 07:41:49 PM
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I know with several bounty manager use escrow for payment method and I allow with their campaign, we don't know about the future success or not an ICO project and listed on bigger exchange but we need and looking for payment faster and bounty manager is trusted, they will never delay payment for bounty participants.
You are correct! Julerz12 BM didn’t conducted any bounty campaign without escrow, i saw last a few campaigns. Now ongoing geoma dao it is also escrow. I will continuously follow such protected projects. Bounty rewards will distribute by BM after 3 weeks so that it’s big opportunity to receive sure payment. Fast payment is unexpected at this time, i see a lot of delay(2 months-6 months) in many bounties.                       

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April 14, 2020, 05:26:04 PM
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Hmm your idea is pretty good. Because hunter works hard for every project they perticipate but if they not pay it's really heart.so if this possible I will defenetely suggest everyone to think about this because day by day bounty earning getting much more defficult & if hunter get victim of any scam it's nothing but a shame!! Shame for that project who Rufused payment.
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April 14, 2020, 05:41:10 PM
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Bitcointalk forums are containers or means. so the highest decision is in the hands of each hunter, whether they will join the project or not. and the forum will also not be responsible if the project that we follow will smell like a scam. but not all of the projects ended in scams right ??
 

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April 14, 2020, 07:45:47 PM
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actually only requires escrow, no need to pay a sum of funds, it's just that escrow isn't as easy as imagined because I'm sure many bounties won't do this because it's a bit troublesome and it seems like our way to avoid scams is to do our own research and choose a person bounty manager who can be trusted and not carelessly in taking a project that wants to run a bounty with their services.

Even if we resort to this method, there is a problem that is difficult to solve.
Projects, for the most part, pay rewards with their own tokens, which subsequently may cost nothing.
Do we need such an escrow? I don’t think so.
This would be appropriate if the projects paid in a more solid currency that entered the market.

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April 14, 2020, 07:48:05 PM
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actually only requires escrow, no need to pay a sum of funds, it's just that escrow isn't as easy as imagined because I'm sure many bounties won't do this because it's a bit troublesome and it seems like our way to avoid scams is to do our own research and choose a person bounty manager who can be trusted and not carelessly in taking a project that wants to run a bounty with their services.

Even if we resort to this method, there is a problem that is difficult to solve.
Projects, for the most part, pay rewards with their own tokens, which subsequently may cost nothing.
Do we need such an escrow? I don’t think so.
This would be appropriate if the projects paid in a more solid currency that entered the market.
The concern of the majority of bounty hunters is the lack of liquidity on the listed exchanges which have no volume after a week. There is no reason to blame the bounty managers or escrow services if there is no demand by the crypto investors. Solid projects know what awaits them in the future and they prepare themselves for these days.

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April 14, 2020, 07:52:06 PM
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This is one of the many reasons some bounty hunters only settle for automated bounty sites but it didn't pacify the issue of payment still. I really  do hope that a lasting solution to this comes forth soonest.
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April 14, 2020, 11:29:20 PM
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Bounties kill a project they add no value

I’ve seen far too many projects where bounty hunters dump tokens the second they receive the token

These days bounty hunters do not get the message out to the wider community and their work do not equal result in token sales

Promote a project because you believe it in - don’t do it for a job

Bounties are one of the reasons why crypto ain’t taken seriously - it’s still a money grab not about adoption
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April 15, 2020, 04:12:39 AM
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Bitcointalk forums are containers or means. so the highest decision is in the hands of each hunter, whether they will join the project or not. and the forum will also not be responsible if the project that we follow will smell like a scam. but not all of the projects ended in scams right ??
What you mean container? It is the area where these bounties are launched. Yes as far as I know it is not the forum responsibility to know all the scam bounty and even do something about it. This forum is created for discussion, and even generous to have a section for this bounty types. Its up to every participants to join which campaign they think they can earn money with. But the fact that most joiners havent paid on many campaign is also alarming.

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April 15, 2020, 04:40:27 AM
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I have already suggested this type of options as in 2019 there were many successful projects but they refuse to pay the bounties the first option is If BTT can help us and then it is excellent. The 2nd option is one Hero member make o Telegram channel and add almost all bounty hunters and whenever any successful project doesn't pay then we all take legal steps against that project through social media.

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April 15, 2020, 04:58:17 AM
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I have already suggested this type of options as in 2019 there were many successful projects but they refuse to pay the bounties the first option is If BTT can help us and then it is excellent. The 2nd option is one Hero member make o Telegram channel and add almost all bounty hunters and whenever any successful project doesn't pay then we all take legal steps against that project through social media.

Seems so simple but when the actual legal steps are to be taken against the project, it would take so long. And if no one will follow thru, it will just fall to deaf ears. But such action will prevent from other potential investors in investing on that project because of the bad reputation. But I don't think someone will diligently do that job and follow up each and every single one of them because they are really a lot. So now, the effort should be on the bounty hunter himself. He should do his own homework before joining any of them.
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April 15, 2020, 05:04:11 AM
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Will it be wise if this forum put up a request that ALL NEW PROJECTS EXPECTING TO RUN BOUNTIES SHOULD PAY A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FUNDS BEFORE CONDUCTING ANY BOUNTY OR run an ESCROW.
The fund will be use to settle hunters should incase project owners Refuse to pay hunters Or decides to play tricks with hunters payment after a successful bounty campaign. For over a long period, hunters has been crying and wailing about successful campaigns that has refused to make payment. there are new campaigns on-going and more projects will run bounty campaigns sooner or later. the issue of payment is still a lingering problem here with No solid profound solution. Apart from the fact that some projects has the ANN Thread labelled as SCAMS, it is still do not offer solutions to payments.

the idea above is just a suggestion.. we all hope that a perfect solution will solve this issue of projects refusing to settle hunters here and will promote this platform.

Your suggestion or opinion was certainly good, but the problem is, most of the the bounty owner who conduct a program to promote their campaign are greed and doesn't care about the feelings of the bounty hunters here in the forum, they are deaf and mute about this issue actually. They are just only after for the profit and good only for the beginning and make lot of promises just to get what they want to get.
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April 15, 2020, 05:08:54 AM
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I have already suggested this type of options as in 2019 there were many successful projects but they refuse to pay the bounties the first option is If BTT can help us and then it is excellent. The 2nd option is one Hero member make o Telegram channel and add almost all bounty hunters and whenever any successful project doesn't pay then we all take legal steps against that project through social media.

Seems so simple but when the actual legal steps are to be taken against the project, it would take so long. And if no one will follow thru, it will just fall to deaf ears. But such action will prevent from other potential investors in investing on that project because of the bad reputation. But I don't think someone will diligently do that job and follow up each and every single one of them because they are really a lot. So now, the effort should be on the bounty hunter himself. He should do his own homework before joining any of them.

Hahah legal steps - legal steps should be taken against the bounty hunters trying to scam projects too
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April 15, 2020, 06:04:57 AM
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Escrow is a good idea, but the project are not going to do it as there are few Bounty campaigns today, so the hunters have no options than participate in all good campaigns no matter they have escrow or no.
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April 15, 2020, 06:32:41 AM
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If the forum determines that more people will be lazy to do research on new projects, why? because they will be calm because they will definitely get payment from the bounty

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April 15, 2020, 06:55:04 AM
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When we want to join campaign, the decision is on our decision whether we want to join or not.
If we think the campaign won't paying the participants, then we should not join.
Escrow is better than no escrow, but usually the campaigns that escrowed the fund usually pay smaller reward than campaign with no escrow.

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April 15, 2020, 06:59:43 AM
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If the forum determines that more people will be lazy to do research on new projects, why? because they will be calm because they will definitely get payment from the bounty
Having an assurance on getting the rewards is good but its not the only factor that can make you say its worth participating in the project. Yes you get your coins/tokens but is it listed in good exchanges and has a real value? That would be an important question so bounty hunters can say its all worth their time and effort.

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April 15, 2020, 07:01:18 AM
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Escrow is a good idea, but the project are not going to do it as there are few Bounty campaigns today, so the hunters have no options than participate in all good campaigns no matter they have escrow or no.
it is very rare to find bounties that use escrow services, and for projects like that, then most likely the payment is to use ethereum, or bitcoin. Well, the only good thing is paying the bounty hunter with coins that are already on the market, or using USDT. it's just that new projects require users who are trying to use their tokens, so I think it's very rare to find such a project.

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April 15, 2020, 10:50:13 AM
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I very much agree with your idea and good arrangement but it is very difficult to do because it has become a strong root for a project and for prize hunters. if that is done maybe many gift workers will not cry with the project they support. but that is a risk that bounty hunters have to take and have to fight for
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April 15, 2020, 02:53:40 PM
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I believe that will be a good idea, as majority of the projectd use Bitcointalk to run their campaigns but if that is done, I doubt if most projects will want to use Bitcointalk again. So you see its a two edged sword. We just have to do our best and hope the team pays hunters for job welldone

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