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[bittrafficme]

Are you trying to bury the issue because you understand my explanation?  

Why not just remove the provably fair claims so that players are deceived?

There are NO ANY ISSUE. I have answered your questions. I Will answer more, when I take time.

The issue is your games aren't provably fair.  If you have time to spam the forum you have time to take a second to understand what I'm saying.

Answer
The important thing to note is that the card deck is shuffled before the game starts and before the player seed is passed and known by the server. This is guaranteed by revealing the server hash. Let's suppose the deck was shuffled or deliberately constructed in favor of the house. After the player starts a new game their seed is passed to the server. The server uses the seed to calculate the shift number (it's described how it's calculated on the provably fair verification page). Then the card deck is cut based on the shift number. The number of cards that will be cut is not known in advance (and can not be predicted without knowing the client seed), thus it's impossible to construct a deck that with any possible shift number would still provide advantage to the house. This makes it useless for the house to try to cheat and initially shuffle the deck in its favor.

No, it's not.

If the deck is constructed so that no A, K, Q, J, or T of the same suit had less than 11 cards between them, with the last card being considered next to the first card - a royal flush would be impossible to hit regardless of the seed the player chooses.\

In order for the game to be provably fair, the player seed needs to effect the initial shuffle - not simply where the pre shuffled deck starts dealing from.

Answer
The layout of the reels is provided in the each Slots game page.

Yeah I already mentioned I found them.

Thanks.  I was able to find the reel layouts, it's good you provide them.

But like in video poker, the player seed is limited in what it can influence since the initial result is generated non transparently.  

Maybe an actual example will help you understand.

Here's the result of an initial shuffle, before the players seed is used to determine where to 'cut' the deck:

D3,C7,S5,S7,HK,DA,C8,S2,DJ,DQ,CA,D7,H3,HT,S6,C2,ST,HA,H9,SA,CT,C3,H7,S3,S4,DT,D8,C4,H6,H5,H2,D2,D5,CJ,S8,D4,D9,SJ,CK,SK,DK,S9,CQ,HQ,H4,C9,C6,H8,C5,D6,HJ,SQ

I color coded the royal flush cards.

You'll notice that no matter where the deck is cut, the player has no chance at being dealt a royal flush.

Can you prove that the the shuffle was not manipulated to make royal flush possibilities happen less often than they should?

I think you just trying to learn the exact algorithm in order to take advantage of it, i.e. predict how good a particular deck shuffle is based on your hash.
There is no need to prove anything, because each user can see the full deck after the game is played and ensure that the deck wasn't manipulated to eliminate royal flush possibility.

[TwitchySeal]

Are you trying to bury the issue because you understand my explanation?  

Why not just remove the provably fair claims so that players are deceived?

There are NO ANY ISSUE. I have answered your questions. I Will answer more, when I take time.

The issue is your games aren't provably fair.  If you have time to spam the forum you have time to take a second to understand what I'm saying.

Answer
The important thing to note is that the card deck is shuffled before the game starts and before the player seed is passed and known by the server. This is guaranteed by revealing the server hash. Let's suppose the deck was shuffled or deliberately constructed in favor of the house. After the player starts a new game their seed is passed to the server. The server uses the seed to calculate the shift number (it's described how it's calculated on the provably fair verification page). Then the card deck is cut based on the shift number. The number of cards that will be cut is not known in advance (and can not be predicted without knowing the client seed), thus it's impossible to construct a deck that with any possible shift number would still provide advantage to the house. This makes it useless for the house to try to cheat and initially shuffle the deck in its favor.

No, it's not.

If the deck is constructed so that no A, K, Q, J, or T of the same suit had less than 11 cards between them, with the last card being considered next to the first card - a royal flush would be impossible to hit regardless of the seed the player chooses.\

In order for the game to be provably fair, the player seed needs to effect the initial shuffle - not simply where the pre shuffled deck starts dealing from.

Answer
The layout of the reels is provided in the each Slots game page.

Yeah I already mentioned I found them.

Thanks.  I was able to find the reel layouts, it's good you provide them.

But like in video poker, the player seed is limited in what it can influence since the initial result is generated non transparently.  

Maybe an actual example will help you understand.

Here's the result of an initial shuffle, before the players seed is used to determine where to 'cut' the deck:

D3,C7,S5,S7,HK,DA,C8,S2,DJ,DQ,CA,D7,H3,HT,S6,C2,ST,HA,H9,SA,CT,C3,H7,S3,S4,DT,D8,C4,H6,H5,H2,D2,D5,CJ,S8,D4,D9,SJ,CK,SK,DK,S9,CQ,HQ,H4,C9,C6,H8,C5,D6,HJ,SQ

I color coded the royal flush cards.

You'll notice that no matter where the deck is cut, the player has no chance at being dealt a royal flush.

Can you prove that the the shuffle was not manipulated to make royal flush possibilities happen less often than they should?

I think you just trying to learn the exact algorithm in order to take advantage of it, i.e. predict how good a particular deck shuffle is based on your hash.
There is no need to prove anything, because each user can see the full deck after the game is played and ensure that the deck wasn't manipulated to eliminate royal flush possibility.

Ok, here's the full deck:

D3,C7,S5,S7,HK,DA,C8,S2,DJ,DQ,CA,D7,H3,HT,S6,C2,ST,HA,H9,SA,CT,C3,H7,S3,S4,DT,D8,C4,H6,H5,H2,D2,D5,CJ,S8,D4,D9,SJ,CK,SK,DK,S9,CQ,HQ,H4,C9,C6,H8,C5,D6,HJ,SQ

There's no royal flush possible, where's the proof it wasn't manipulated.

[TwitchySeal]

Stop bumping the same thing over and over.  The rule is once per 24 hours.

If you have time to spam the forum you should have time to do a little thinking and realize your games aren't provably fair.  

Are you trying to bury the issue because you understand my explanation?  

Why not just remove the provably fair claims so that players are deceived?

There are NO ANY ISSUE. I have answered your questions. I Will answer more, when I take time.

The issue is your games aren't provably fair.  If you have time to spam the forum you have time to take a second to understand what I'm saying.

Answer
The important thing to note is that the card deck is shuffled before the game starts and before the player seed is passed and known by the server. This is guaranteed by revealing the server hash. Let's suppose the deck was shuffled or deliberately constructed in favor of the house. After the player starts a new game their seed is passed to the server. The server uses the seed to calculate the shift number (it's described how it's calculated on the provably fair verification page). Then the card deck is cut based on the shift number. The number of cards that will be cut is not known in advance (and can not be predicted without knowing the client seed), thus it's impossible to construct a deck that with any possible shift number would still provide advantage to the house. This makes it useless for the house to try to cheat and initially shuffle the deck in its favor.

No, it's not.

If the deck is constructed so that no A, K, Q, J, or T of the same suit had less than 11 cards between them, with the last card being considered next to the first card - a royal flush would be impossible to hit regardless of the seed the player chooses.\

In order for the game to be provably fair, the player seed needs to effect the initial shuffle - not simply where the pre shuffled deck starts dealing from.

Answer
The layout of the reels is provided in the each Slots game page.

Yeah I already mentioned I found them.

Thanks.  I was able to find the reel layouts, it's good you provide them.

But like in video poker, the player seed is limited in what it can influence since the initial result is generated non transparently.  

Maybe an actual example will help you understand.

Here's the result of an initial shuffle, before the players seed is used to determine where to 'cut' the deck:

D3,C7,S5,S7,HK,DA,C8,S2,DJ,DQ,CA,D7,H3,HT,S6,C2,ST,HA,H9,SA,CT,C3,H7,S3,S4,DT,D8,C4,H6,H5,H2,D2,D5,CJ,S8,D4,D9,SJ,CK,SK,DK,S9,CQ,HQ,H4,C9,C6,H8,C5,D6,HJ,SQ

I color coded the royal flush cards.

You'll notice that no matter where the deck is cut, the player has no chance at being dealt a royal flush.

Can you prove that the the shuffle was not manipulated to make royal flush possibilities happen less often than they should?

I think you just trying to learn the exact algorithm in order to take advantage of it, i.e. predict how good a particular deck shuffle is based on your hash.
There is no need to prove anything, because each user can see the full deck after the game is played and ensure that the deck wasn't manipulated to eliminate royal flush possibility.

Ok, here's the full deck:

D3,C7,S5,S7,HK,DA,C8,S2,DJ,DQ,CA,D7,H3,HT,S6,C2,ST,HA,H9,SA,CT,C3,H7,S3,S4,DT,D8,C4,H6,H5,H2,D2,D5,CJ,S8,D4,D9,SJ,CK,SK,DK,S9,CQ,HQ,H4,C9,C6,H8,C5,D6,HJ,SQ

There's no royal flush possible.  How do we know that it wasn't manipulated.

The answer is "we don't". 

[ScamViruS]

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Because of your red trust, players won't even try to play on your website. Now everyone has become very clever, they check everything before depositing anything. So this red trust of yours has put your reputation down.

Instead of wasting too much time on different types of new offers, you should look at how to get rid of these red trusts. There are cases, you should think about how to solve those cases.

[bittrafficme]

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Because of your red trust, players won't even try to play on your website. Now everyone has become very clever, they check everything before depositing anything. So this red trust of yours has put your reputation down.

Instead of wasting too much time on different types of new offers, you should look at how to get rid of these red trusts. There are cases, you should think about how to solve those cases.

yes, I understand and agree with you.

Generally speaking, the casino business brings only negative emotions and no desire left. Just get tired of proving you’re not a gladiolus.

In 1 year, brings so much negative, more than 17 years I work online ..

I don't think it's possible to solve these cases. Just because there is nothing to solve ..

[ScamViruS]

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Because of your red trust, players won't even try to play on your website. Now everyone has become very clever, they check everything before depositing anything. So this red trust of yours has put your reputation down.

Instead of wasting too much time on different types of new offers, you should look at how to get rid of these red trusts. There are cases, you should think about how to solve those cases.

I don't think it's possible to solve these cases. Just because there is nothing to solve ..

There are some serious bad reports against you. So I think it is not possible for you to solve those cases, since you do not want to take steps to take care of those cases.

I would tell new players to keep themselves safe before depositing on any bad reputation website. And I will tell you that if you want to get a good reputation back, you must solve the cases.

[barbara44]

Because of your red trust, players won't even try to play on your website. Now everyone has become very clever, they check everything before depositing anything. So this red trust of yours has put your reputation down.

Instead of wasting too much time on different types of new offers, you should look at how to get rid of these red trusts. There are cases, you should think about how to solve those cases.

yes, I understand and agree with you.

Generally speaking, the casino business brings only negative emotions and no desire left. Just get tired of proving you’re not a gladiolus.

In 1 year, brings so much negative, more than 17 years I work online ..

I don't think it's possible to solve these cases. Just because there is nothing to solve ..

If you have the right will and intent you can easily solve all the problems like many other casinos in past have managed to do. You need to be open and rather than twisting the accusations made against you, you need to come up with a proper answer and explanation.

Every casino has had issues in past barring a few who are running clean since start till now so you still have a chance as long as you answer the accusations in a proper manner with proofs and believe me any gambler who visits a new casinos always check for the casino's thread here and with the kind of reputation you have now it will be nearly impossible to reflect any trust right now.

[phreess]

Hey OP, why don't you resolve your scam accusation?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5233811

[bittrafficme]

Hey OP, why don't you resolve your scam accusation?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5233811

Hey phreess,
No.
- a little later i will answer in detail.

[phreess]

Hey OP, why don't you resolve your scam accusation?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5233811

Hey phreess,
No.
- a little later i will answer in detail.

When is it "a little later", man?

[phreess]

Hey OP, why don't you resolve your scam accusation?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5233811

Hey phreess,
No.
- a little later i will answer in detail.

When is it "a little later", man?

so, never bro? xD

[bittrafficme]

so, never bro? xD

no no, not never Tomorow, okay?
Now I don't have "power" anymore, I'm logging out now...

[Bitinity]

so, never bro? xD

no no, not never Tomorow, okay?
Now I don't have "power" anymore, I'm logging out now...

3days passed, but yet to see your "answer in detail". It shows that you have no serious effort to clear your reputation and I believe you'll not resolve any accusations against your site ever. What I can see here is that your main purpose is just to get new players who do not notice about what was happening or what is happening on your site. You do not care about your own trust/repuation in a place where you promote your own project(s).

[Zackgeno96]

In any case, he has enough time to pay attention to his posts on the forum. Incidentally, the title of the topic is now confusing. If you write that you specialize in offering racing competitions, then people expect greyhounds, real life horse racing. It's just virtual races now, nothing more and sneeze less. When are you going to expand to professional software? I think that will be a good step, your reputation will not improve this way if you avoid critical questions from respected members here.

[LimLims]

Wait what? At first after seeing the title i thought, we will get the option to bet on real horse racing, but it is virtual?
Then it's a computer based game and i need to know about the fairness of the game.
Moreover if the OP really wants to fetch some serious Gamblers to the site, then it's better to first clear the negative trust.
And more over if you guys can run some potential Promotions then it will surely help to grow.

[Jating]

I'm familiar with horse racing here in our county and I have been a avid bettor for many years now.

But when I saw this kind of virtual horse inside a land based casino, I was struck because to be honest, I really don't know how to beat because there are a lot of combinations. And I'm top shy to ask the other players as well.

But seeing this, (first time) here, maybe I could play around and see if this is similar to the land base casino that I frequented. Because I also see someone win big like every time that I'm in that casino and I wanted to get the experience.

[bittrafficme]

I'm familiar with horse racing here in our county and I have been a avid bettor for many years now.

But when I saw this kind of virtual horse inside a land based casino, I was struck because to be honest, I really don't know how to beat because there are a lot of combinations. And I'm top shy to ask the other players as well.

But seeing this, (first time) here, maybe I could play around and see if this is similar to the land base casino that I frequented. Because I also see someone win big like every time that I'm in that casino and I wanted to get the experience.

Horse Racing Game Features

    Payout up to bet x3.9+
    Choose how much to bet
    8 horses in a race
    Turn sound on / off

How to play Horse Racing

To play this game you need to pick one or several horses that you think will win and choose how much you would like to bet.

Bet Types

    Win — you win if your horse wins the race
    Place — you win if your horse finishes first or second
    Show — you win if your horse finishes first second or third

Bets / Wins / Horses

Trigger
x3.8
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Lucky
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Jet
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x1.6

Harley
x3.6
x1.7
x1.1

Captain
x3.3
x1.8
x1.3

Muffin
x2.9
x2.3
x1.2

Bullet
x3.5
x1.6
x1.3

Texas
x3.9
x1.4
x1.1



https://coins777.com/games/horse-racing
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[imutlinda]

These are virtual races only I guess? There's nothing wrong with that, but betting on real horse racing is a bit more fun.
By the way, how do we know that these games are all fair? That is always my biggest concern.

[deadthings]

These are virtual races only I guess? There's nothing wrong with that, but betting on real horse racing is a bit more fun.
By the way, how do we know that these games are all fair? That is always my biggest concern.

Sorry, but you should check the reputation of the site. There are many sites which are more reliable than this one.
This site is for virtual games, that is correct. Some people like it. If you look for virtual games, also there are other sites with are more reputable.

[bittrafficme]

These are virtual races only I guess? There's nothing wrong with that, but betting on real horse racing is a bit more fun.
By the way, how do we know that these games are all fair? That is always my biggest concern.

YES! These ganes akways are fair. https://blog.coins777.com/horse-racing
These races are virtual. But it’s very funy, more fun than any other casino game.
You can try it free... (signup and get free credits)

Even now my friends and I are betting our favorite horses )