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Question: Joshua vs Pulev --- who will win?
Anthony Joshua - 40 (83.3%)
Kubrat Pulev - 7 (14.6%)
Draw - 1 (2.1%)
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June 23, 2020, 06:16:40 AM
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AJ for me is not the same fighter anymore when he lose to Ruiz, although he redeemed himself through a rematch but coaches of Pulev surely found some weakness of AJ that they will target in this fight. You are right, the odds does not always true as no one would really know if who will win, so as a bettor, let's bet on the fighter which we think his betting odds has a good value.
Anthony Joshua was too confident in the first Ruiz fight and he did not expected him to be a threat and he might have taken the fight lightly and paid the price but he fought brilliantly in the rematch and by that time Ruiz went down the road without proper training and enjoying the instant fame he gained and that might have a significant role and if i am going by that then the Kubrat Pulev fight would be a tough one.

Joshua will be the favorite but i am not expecting Pulev to be a heavy underdog.

That's your opinion but in sports book he is a heavy dog, here's the betting odds that was shared in the previous page.



See that odds? that's $1100 winning for a $100 bet if Pulev wins, that's how people look at this chances against Joshua.

This odds also certainly predicts that it is going to be the one sided match and winning chances of Pulev is not much . But I am sure people would be placing bets on him as well considering the odds and just if by chance he wins then people will make big money on bets of his winning .
Personally I would not skip that opportunity to win x10 of my bet, though Pulev is old and might be going to retirement if he lose in this fight, I'll give him a shot. I will just treat this bet like a parlay bet where odds are high and but chances are low, it doesn't matter actually, I'll go with my instinct.
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AJ for me is not the same fighter anymore when he lose to Ruiz, although he redeemed himself through a rematch but coaches of Pulev surely found some weakness of AJ that they will target in this fight. You are right, the odds does not always true as no one would really know if who will win, so as a bettor, let's bet on the fighter which we think his betting odds has a good value.
Anthony Joshua was too confident in the first Ruiz fight and he did not expected him to be a threat and he might have taken the fight lightly and paid the price but he fought brilliantly in the rematch and by that time Ruiz went down the road without proper training and enjoying the instant fame he gained and that might have a significant role and if i am going by that then the Kubrat Pulev fight would be a tough one.

Joshua will be the favorite but i am not expecting Pulev to be a heavy underdog.

That's your opinion but in sports book he is a heavy dog, here's the betting odds that was shared in the previous page.



See that odds? that's $1100 winning for a $100 bet if Pulev wins, that's how people look at this chances against Joshua.

This odds also certainly predicts that it is going to be the one sided match and winning chances of Pulev is not much . But I am sure people would be placing bets on him as well considering the odds and just if by chance he wins then people will make big money on bets of his winning .
Personally I would not skip that opportunity to win x10 of my bet, though Pulev is old and might be going to retirement if he lose in this fight, I'll give him a shot. I will just treat this bet like a parlay bet where odds are high and but chances are low, it doesn't matter actually, I'll go with my instinct.
That's what this match are, if you are willing to bet on Pulev and hope that he will win then it's going to be a good profit for you, windfall. But betting publics really know what's going to happen and sayin that Pulev won't pull an upset here. And nobody can stop you as well, good luck on your Pulev bet if the fight progressed in the next coming months.

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June 23, 2020, 10:25:05 AM
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That's what this match are, if you are willing to bet on Pulev and hope that he will win then it's going to be a good profit for you, windfall. But betting publics really know what's going to happen and sayin that Pulev won't pull an upset here. And nobody can stop you as well, good luck on your Pulev bet if the fight progressed in the next coming months.


Anyone who bet on Pulev would win if AJ would experience a second upset in his boxing career.

Looking at their respective record and how both fighters fight, it looks like Pulev is very predictable and AJ can beat him either in points or probably from knock down.

There's nothing to lose for Pulev here since he is already close to the age of retirement and AJ is now one of the stars of boxing in his division. People would push that this fight will soon happen as they are waiting for the result of Fury vs Wilder which they already expect that Wilder will lose and AJ vs Fury would take place this year.

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June 23, 2020, 10:33:34 PM
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That's what this match are, if you are willing to bet on Pulev and hope that he will win then it's going to be a good profit for you, windfall. But betting publics really know what's going to happen and sayin that Pulev won't pull an upset here. And nobody can stop you as well, good luck on your Pulev bet if the fight progressed in the next coming months.


Anyone who bet on Pulev would win if AJ would experience a second upset in his boxing career.

Looking at their respective record and how both fighters fight, it looks like Pulev is very predictable and AJ can beat him either in points or probably from knock down.

There's nothing to lose for Pulev here since he is already close to the age of retirement and AJ is now one of the stars of boxing in his division. People would push that this fight will soon happen as they are waiting for the result of Fury vs Wilder which they already expect that Wilder will lose and AJ vs Fury would take place this year.

Pulev has nothing to lose in this one and im sure that AJ wont easily allow to have that second upset to happen but he shouldnt take Pulev confidently yet we know that lucky punch
would really be always next in line if you were careless enough and of course people do always look possibly for AJ and Fury fight but that would be still next in line
yet we havent known yet on what would be the result of Wilder and Fury, if either would happen or not.

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June 26, 2020, 10:38:41 AM
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Pulev is 39 years old and Joshua is 30 years old so age should play some part but either fighter is capable of ending the fight in the early rounds. The longer the fight goes on the more the odds probably favour Joshua.

Tyson Fury Won against Deontay Wilder and put a record of lost in his career, Anthony Joshua should have taken Tyson Fury as his next opponent but Kubrat Pulev is a mandatory opponent for him, but if this goes well for Joshua I think that will be the next fight for him to take,

Apparently even though Kubrat Pulev had a good record in his career with only one lost to Wladimir Klitschko I think his 28 wins is nothing to Joshua's 23 wins over his career at the age of only 30, he is pulling out something like this, So I think their Age, in my opinion, may have an impact to Kubrat Pulev.

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June 26, 2020, 12:28:42 PM
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Advantage? maybe there is but we never know, we were thinking that Manny would lose against Thurman because he is already 41 years old Thurman was 31, but at the end of the round, Manny was declared as the winner. So it could also happen in this fight, who knows.

Pulev is 39 years old and Joshua is 30 years old so age should play some part but either fighter is capable of ending the fight in the early rounds. The longer the fight goes on the more the odds probably favour Joshua.

Tyson Fury Won against Deontay Wilder and put a record of lost in his career, Anthony Joshua should have taken Tyson Fury as his next opponent but Kubrat Pulev is a mandatory opponent for him, but if this goes well for Joshua I think that will be the next fight for him to take,

Apparently even though Kubrat Pulev had a good record in his career with only one lost to Wladimir Klitschko I think his 28 wins is nothing to Joshua's 23 wins over his career at the age of only 30, he is pulling out something like this, So I think their Age, in my opinion, may have an impact to Kubrat Pulev.

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June 26, 2020, 04:28:26 PM
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Point taken  Grin

I was just giving my opinion and perspective. Either way both of the fighters have to actually win in order for their careers to progress but as of right now even though neither has won because the fight has not taken place - the odds on favourite according to bookmakers is Joshua, granted it does not mean he will actually win.

Advantage? maybe there is but we never know, we were thinking that Manny would lose against Thurman because he is already 41 years old Thurman was 31, but at the end of the round, Manny was declared as the winner. So it could also happen in this fight, who knows.

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June 26, 2020, 07:49:20 PM
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Point taken  Grin
I was just giving my opinion and perspective. Either way both of the fighters have to actually win in order for their careers to progress but as of right now even though neither has won because the fight has not taken place - the odds on favourite according to bookmakers is Joshua, granted it does not mean he will actually win.
Agree with you in this point, bookmakers are offered odds according to the trend they feel is right, and the odds are always in their favor. But in this case, many people find that the age difference is a pretty clear advantage in this match  Cheesy Although I hope Pulev wins, if viewed objectively, his chances are small. Joshua's strength is undeniable  Cheesy

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June 26, 2020, 11:53:47 PM
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Point taken  Grin

I was just giving my opinion and perspective. Either way both of the fighters have to actually win in order for their careers to progress but as of right now even though neither has won because the fight has not taken place - the odds on favourite according to bookmakers is Joshua, granted it does not mean he will actually win.

Advantage? maybe there is but we never know, we were thinking that Manny would lose against Thurman because he is already 41 years old Thurman was 31, but at the end of the round, Manny was declared as the winner. So it could also happen in this fight, who knows.

In gambling world, favorites arent really mean to win always in the end thats why sometimes i do really like to bet with underdogs specially if the odds are quite attractive.

I cant deny and do somewhat agree that age would really take a toll but it all varies on dedication and experience.No one knows if Pulev will still able to pull that knockout punch

and would see another upset but basing of between Knockdown rate or percentage- Aj does really have that power. Hope he do learn up something on his last fights!

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Joshua vs. Pulev could be the most lucrative boxing event of the year. Organizers are planning to host it at the Royal Albert Hall with 1,000 people willing to pay a hefty sum of money to be there £ 10,000 for each attendee who would generate £ 10,000,000 ($ 17,000,000) for Joshua vs. Kubrat Pulev.

https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2020/06/22/anthony-joshua-kubrat-pulev-dinner/

These preparations could be advanced once the UK and London reopen.

It may be soon because the Prime Minister has announced that restaurants and other businesses will reopen as of July 4th.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/pm-announces-easing-of-lockdown-restrictions-23-june-2020

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June 28, 2020, 10:06:37 AM
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Point taken  Grin

I was just giving my opinion and perspective. Either way both of the fighters have to actually win in order for their careers to progress but as of right now even though neither has won because the fight has not taken place - the odds on favourite according to bookmakers is Joshua, granted it does not mean he will actually win.

Advantage? maybe there is but we never know, we were thinking that Manny would lose against Thurman because he is already 41 years old Thurman was 31, but at the end of the round, Manny was declared as the winner. So it could also happen in this fight, who knows.

In gambling world, favorites arent really mean to win always in the end thats why sometimes i do really like to bet with underdogs specially if the odds are quite attractive.

I cant deny and do somewhat agree that age would really take a toll but it all varies on dedication and experience.No one knows if Pulev will still able to pull that knockout punch

and would see another upset but basing of between Knockdown rate or percentage- Aj does really have that power. Hope he do learn up something on his last fights!

He will because he already learned in his past mistake against Ruiz which we thought in their first fight that Ruiz would never pull an upset and then it happens. If we compare Puleb on Ruiz, I think Puleb is quite better in terms of his record and the way he looks, so it's going to be a tougher fight for him although the betting odds says the other way.

Joshua vs. Pulev could be the most lucrative boxing event of the year. Organizers are planning to host it at the Royal Albert Hall with 1,000 people willing to pay a hefty sum of money to be there £ 10,000 for each attendee who would generate £ 10,000,000 ($ 17,000,000) for Joshua vs. Kubrat Pulev.

https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2020/06/22/anthony-joshua-kubrat-pulev-dinner/


Great amount of reward, thanks to AJ for taking his reputation back and now he continues to make money, probably this figure is way lower if the Fury vs AJ fight will happen.

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June 28, 2020, 10:35:32 AM
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Point taken  Grin

I was just giving my opinion and perspective. Either way both of the fighters have to actually win in order for their careers to progress but as of right now even though neither has won because the fight has not taken place - the odds on favourite according to bookmakers is Joshua, granted it does not mean he will actually win.

Advantage? maybe there is but we never know, we were thinking that Manny would lose against Thurman because he is already 41 years old Thurman was 31, but at the end of the round, Manny was declared as the winner. So it could also happen in this fight, who knows.

In gambling world, favorites arent really mean to win always in the end thats why sometimes i do really like to bet with underdogs specially if the odds are quite attractive.

I cant deny and do somewhat agree that age would really take a toll but it all varies on dedication and experience.No one knows if Pulev will still able to pull that knockout punch

and would see another upset but basing of between Knockdown rate or percentage- Aj does really have that power. Hope he do learn up something on his last fights!

He will because he already learned in his past mistake against Ruiz which we thought in their first fight that Ruiz would never pull an upset and then it happens. If we compare Puleb on Ruiz, I think Puleb is quite better in terms of his record and the way he looks, so it's going to be a tougher fight for him although the betting odds says the other way.

Joshua vs. Pulev could be the most lucrative boxing event of the year. Organizers are planning to host it at the Royal Albert Hall with 1,000 people willing to pay a hefty sum of money to be there £ 10,000 for each attendee who would generate £ 10,000,000 ($ 17,000,000) for Joshua vs. Kubrat Pulev.

https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2020/06/22/anthony-joshua-kubrat-pulev-dinner/


Great amount of reward, thanks to AJ for taking his reputation back and now he continues to make money, probably this figure is way lower if the Fury vs AJ fight will happen.

Yes, I think if Fury vs AJ really happen in the future, it's going to be a huge payday for both and we do hope that by that time pandemic is gone or a vaccine is already in place. It can literally pack Wimbley if the fight push through.

As for Pulev vs AJ, that is also a huge money to be made in this pandemic, and because AJ has regain his sttatus I believed that he can pull great numbers against Pulev as well. Could be one of the most lucrative for this year, as we still have Fury vs Wilder or Canelo vs GGG possible before the end of the year.

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Point taken  Grin

I was just giving my opinion and perspective. Either way both of the fighters have to actually win in order for their careers to progress but as of right now even though neither has won because the fight has not taken place - the odds on favourite according to bookmakers is Joshua, granted it does not mean he will actually win.

Advantage? maybe there is but we never know, we were thinking that Manny would lose against Thurman because he is already 41 years old Thurman was 31, but at the end of the round, Manny was declared as the winner. So it could also happen in this fight, who knows.

In gambling world, favorites arent really mean to win always in the end thats why sometimes i do really like to bet with underdogs specially if the odds are quite attractive.

I cant deny and do somewhat agree that age would really take a toll but it all varies on dedication and experience.No one knows if Pulev will still able to pull that knockout punch

and would see another upset but basing of between Knockdown rate or percentage- Aj does really have that power. Hope he do learn up something on his last fights!

He will because he already learned in his past mistake against Ruiz which we thought in their first fight that Ruiz would never pull an upset and then it happens. If we compare Puleb on Ruiz, I think Puleb is quite better in terms of his record and the way he looks, so it's going to be a tougher fight for him although the betting odds says the other way.

Joshua vs. Pulev could be the most lucrative boxing event of the year. Organizers are planning to host it at the Royal Albert Hall with 1,000 people willing to pay a hefty sum of money to be there £ 10,000 for each attendee who would generate £ 10,000,000 ($ 17,000,000) for Joshua vs. Kubrat Pulev.

https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2020/06/22/anthony-joshua-kubrat-pulev-dinner/


Great amount of reward, thanks to AJ for taking his reputation back and now he continues to make money, probably this figure is way lower if the Fury vs AJ fight will happen.

Yes, I think if Fury vs AJ really happen in the future, it's going to be a huge payday for both and we do hope that by that time pandemic is gone or a vaccine is already in place. It can literally pack Wimbley if the fight push through.

It could be the biggest fight this year or next year if it will happen, speaking of figures.
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As for Pulev vs AJ, that is also a huge money to be made in this pandemic, and because AJ has regain his sttatus I believed that he can pull great numbers against Pulev as well. Could be one of the most lucrative for this year, as we still have Fury vs Wilder or Canelo vs GGG possible before the end of the year.

Lots of money for them though, if they are thinking of helping people then they can do that.
The fights you've mentioned are all interesting fight, I would definitely not gonna skip any of the fight but I was also hoping that Canelo vs GGG would nto happen, instead a PACMAN vs GGG would take place.

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October 19, 2020, 01:20:11 PM
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A little update from this fight coming from a new thread, let me quote @TopTort777 post so we will just continue the discussion here.

Interesting update, now it's not a speculation anymore, there's already a final date.

Since people has forgotten about this fight, I will update topic with latest available info.
 
It is officially announced, that Anthony Joshua and Kubrat Pulev fight will be on December 12 in London in O2 arena. Yet it is still unknow, if there will be spectators in O2 arena or not.



Source: https://www.matchroomboxing.com/news/joshua-and-pulev-collide-dec-12/

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October 20, 2020, 09:35:35 PM
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I hope Kubrat Pulev will not ruin the party  Grin, Anthony Joshua should win this convincingly or not because a loss would mean the end the talks of a possible mega showdown with Tyson Fury. This fight is scheduled in December, this means that AJ would be fighting back in almost a year of inactivity, i hope ring rust would not be an issue here.

Looking at the odds on one of the bookies, Anthony Joshua 1.08 Kubrat Pulev 6.40, seems interesting since we have seen how Ruiz beat AJ back then.

   

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I hope Kubrat Pulev will not ruin the party  Grin, Anthony Joshua should win this convincingly or not because a loss would mean the end the talks of a possible mega showdown with Tyson Fury. This fight is scheduled in December, this means that AJ would be fighting back in almost a year of inactivity, i hope ring rust would not be an issue here.

Yes, if not then a Joshua lost will derail future fights with Tyson Fury. Almost all boxers now have ring rust, and I would say that it is a big factor, so let's hope that there's no upset.

Looking at the odds on one of the bookies, Anthony Joshua 1.08 Kubrat Pulev 6.40, seems interesting since we have seen how Ruiz beat AJ back then.  

I don't like the odds for AJ though, not attractive for boxing gamblers. Probably much better to look at which rounds AJ will KO Pulev.  Smiley

 
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Looking at the odds on one of the bookies, Anthony Joshua 1.08 Kubrat Pulev 6.40, seems interesting since we have seen how Ruiz beat AJ back then.  

I don't like the odds for AJ though, not attractive for boxing gamblers. Probably much better to look at which rounds AJ will KO Pulev.  Smiley

You don't need to put your bet right now, you can wait like a day before the fight to place your bet, you'll see a lot of betting odds for this fight.
As for me, I am not really a big fan of Joshua, and I learn going with the Favorites all the time is a bad strategy, I'll go for Pulev this time and hope for an upset.

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Looking at the odds on one of the bookies, Anthony Joshua 1.08 Kubrat Pulev 6.40, seems interesting since we have seen how Ruiz beat AJ back then.  

I don't like the odds for AJ though, not attractive for boxing gamblers. Probably much better to look at which rounds AJ will KO Pulev.  Smiley

You don't need to put your bet right now, you can wait like a day before the fight to place your bet, you'll see a lot of betting odds for this fight.
As for me, I am not really a big fan of Joshua, and I learn going with the Favorites all the time is a bad strategy, I'll go for Pulev this time and hope for an upset.

I usually bet a day or two before the fight, I don't want to over complicate my analysis,  Smiley

So there's another controversy,

https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/kubrat-pulev-in-hot-water-over-racist-comment/161425

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“He has a very powerful punch, undeniably,” Pulev said at the press conference, before adding, when asked what other strengths Joshua has, this clanger: “What are his other strengths? His tan is better than mine.”

Majority branded this as racist remarks from Pulev, and with the the social movement we have right now, I'm pretty sure he irked some sports personalities again. Joshua hasn't comment though, but in any case, Joshua here should get the job done.

Or maybe Pulev is just trying to sell the fights.

 
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October 21, 2020, 11:01:41 PM
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So there's another controversy,

https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/kubrat-pulev-in-hot-water-over-racist-comment/161425

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“He has a very powerful punch, undeniably,” Pulev said at the press conference, before adding, when asked what other strengths Joshua has, this clanger: “What are his other strengths? His tan is better than mine.”

Majority branded this as racist remarks from Pulev, and with the the social movement we have right now, I'm pretty sure he irked some sports personalities again. Joshua hasn't comment though, but in any case, Joshua here should get the job done.

Or maybe Pulev is just trying to sell the fights.


You have answered it correctly, knowing the personality of Pulev, you know what he can do, so Joshua here should not be distracted and just focus on the training so in fight night, he can show his best and teach the old Pulev a lesson that could probably make him decide to retire.

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Last edit: October 22, 2020, 04:53:27 AM by Kemarit
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So there's another controversy,

https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/kubrat-pulev-in-hot-water-over-racist-comment/161425

Quote
“He has a very powerful punch, undeniably,” Pulev said at the press conference, before adding, when asked what other strengths Joshua has, this clanger: “What are his other strengths? His tan is better than mine.”

Majority branded this as racist remarks from Pulev, and with the the social movement we have right now, I'm pretty sure he irked some sports personalities again. Joshua hasn't comment though, but in any case, Joshua here should get the job done.

Or maybe Pulev is just trying to sell the fights.


You have answered it correctly, knowing the personality of Pulev, you know what he can do, so Joshua here should not be distracted and just focus on the training so in fight night, he can show his best and teach the old Pulev a lesson that could probably make him decide to retire.

I'm interested to see if there is a video stream regarding his supposedly racist remarks? I'm sorry but I can't find any. So I would give Pulev the benefit of the doubt and maybe it's not his intention that it was taken out of context.

But in any case, Pulev already responded back,



https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1317169871810187264

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“I would never, under any circumstances, allow myself to show disrespect to another human being on racial, ethnic or religious grounds. That’s what I’ve been teaching my little nephews all the time. Each of us is born on this earth with equal rights, and skin color is completely irrelevant.

“I can’t believe how my words about Anthony Joshua have been taken out of context. It never even occurred to me to discredit another sportsman because of the color of his skin! Amongst my friends there are people of different races and ethnicities. They are all great and worthy people, as well as my very good, long-standing friends whom I respect and love.”
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