Bounty Managers and Shit projects

[julius caesar]

I bet a huge % as long as they get paid in btc and not shitcurrency they will do it. Sadly such projects aren't minded by many and trying to critisize the managers can even get you in trouble as i experienced, I will admit i weren't very gentle either.

If they are introducing a scam projects, DT can easily know that one and they can mark them with a Red Tag. They will not be able to host a project anymore since they have that kind of tag. People will not gonna trust this manager anymore since he/she is introducing a scam projects. We will now easily recognize who is a good manager or not.

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[beerlover]

It is easy to criticize them when you are not the one offered money but I am 99% sure that everybody here who gets an offer of like lets say 1 bitcoin for being the bounty manager of a project, would accept even if they knew that the project would be good or not.

Of course, if they are obvious scam they would stay away because promoting a scam knowingly would mean not only you are hurting other people which should be the sole reason not to do it but even if you are a greedy and shady person, why would you promote a scam project when you know in the end you will never be hired and you would be hated by the public? Even if the only person you care about is yourself no one would promote a known scam to keep their reputation higher.

However, there are limits, look at yobit for example, that was seen as a scam website yet hundreds of people had their signature, so lets not go too much on the bounty managers that promote bad projects.

[BayAngelo]

Punishment for bounty mangers for promoting projects they did not review and fall out be scam is NEGATIVE TRUST. nothing else. some of these managers have multiple accounts. majority of them are after their pay. they care less about hunters. worst still, when they have colleagues that assist them in hosting bounties when they have red trust.
Terrible for me.

[luckyflop]

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some bounty hunters will be very happy if they receive the token, even if the token that is shared is a scam or fraud token. Receiving tokens is better than nothing.
The token will be a decorative asset in the wallet that reminds that the token was generated from a scam project that cheats many people.

I don't understand why you might be happy if you received a scam token. You will not be able to do anything with it, cannot sell it anywhere in this market. Do I have hundreds of tokens in my wallet like that? Would you please buy them and decorate your wallet?

[TopTort777]

Punishment for bounty mangers for promoting projects they did not review and fall out be scam is NEGATIVE TRUST. nothing else. some of these managers have multiple accounts. majority of them are after their pay. they care less about hunters. worst still, when they have colleagues that assist them in hosting bounties when they have red trust.
Terrible for me.

What exactly can bounty managers check? Is the whitepaper originally written or does the team uses fake photos?
Bounty managers could not predict what the project decides to do during bounty campaign. It's impossible to predict if the project extends the campaign or cuts the reward, or even make an "exit scam".

Cure to is - ecrow bounty funds to someone that "is not a BM". If the project doesn't want to work in a triangle "escrow-BM-project", then there is something fishy about it.

[SacriFries11]

Punishment for bounty mangers for promoting projects they did not review and fall out be scam is NEGATIVE TRUST. nothing else. some of these managers have multiple accounts. majority of them are after their pay. they care less about hunters. worst still, when they have colleagues that assist them in hosting bounties when they have red trust.
Terrible for me.

I'm wondering if we can give them other punishment besides of getting red trust. Bounty managers knows what they will deal before accepting what they manage, and they should if the project they will accept is scam or not. I think trusted bounty managers know it well or if they set their own trap for themselves while us we should do our role to analyze first before joining of any campaigns.

[distr@yopmail.com]

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some bounty hunters will be very happy if they receive the token, even if the token that is shared is a scam or fraud token. Receiving tokens is better than nothing.
The token will be a decorative asset in the wallet that reminds that the token was generated from a scam project that cheats many people.

I don't understand why you might be happy if you received a scam token. You will not be able to do anything with it, cannot sell it anywhere in this market. Do I have hundreds of tokens in my wallet like that? Would you please buy them and decorate your wallet?

I don't think anyone will be happy with a project scam. especially when we are happy to get tokens but cannot be sold anywhere it will be very painful. but this problem cannot be the fault of the full bounty manager. although sometimes we also have great confidence in the manager that does not guarantee we will get paid from projects held by our trust manager. Many large managers also manage project scams, and it's not just one or two.

[Sterbens]

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I think it is quite tough to find out at the beginning. But for me, a scam project always starts out as a scam. If you have no intention whatsoever of actually doing work, developing product or solution, and just want to raise money, it is pretty obvious. Founders and devs who are hard at work need only show us github and all the stuff happening. If you only see marketing and conference and PR, for me ,,, that is a start of a scam.

Then how do we differentiate non-fraudulent projects from the start? Often seeing projects from the start seems to promise they develop well and meetings with several partners and even in sales they are successful, but what happens after that developers always carry off if they have gone crazy for what else in their fundraising success and finally scam too.
So for us it is also difficult to find promising projects.

[Perfect35]

To wrap it up, a bounty manager once told me when I called his attention to some unrealistic plans of the project he was managing, he said he is not concerned about the success of the project, once he gets his weekly payment from the team. I want to know if there are some levels of punishment for bounty managers that manage unworthy projects apart from negative trust?

For a manager to have made such a statement, it shows how lackadaisical his attitude is. he does not care about his participants and even this forum at large. Such a manager should not be followed for any bounty. Well, even if some people know the kind of person he is, they will still participate in his bounty, which is quite bad and shows how much they have lowered themselves.
I know you might not want to mention his name, but I personally will try every means possible to watch out for such managers.

[Sanugarid]

We shouldn't blame anyone if we participated a shit project or be scammed by it.
We should learn to choose where to participate and we should learn to accept that it was our fault for being scammed,
If we just spend some time to look at the project and did our own research then we wouldn't get scammed or joined those shitty project.

Absolutely, I didn't blame the bounty manager if the particular project scams us because the only thing they are doing is to manage bounties and signatures, they are checking if we are doing our tasks very well so that the projects that we are promoting becomes successful if we got a lot of investors by wearing signatures while posting on the forum. That is actually the team themselves who really scams other people, but we cannot also blame the other project that really intend to do their tasks and really do what they can to become successful it is just they don't reach the target, or the project didn't go with the plan they make, there are also reasons that there are too little investors that support the project so they cannot give enough payments to the participants of bounty.

[semobo]

It's no more news that many of us would have had some horrible experiences participating in some resources wasting projects. However, my opinion is that, do bounty managers just accept hook line and sinker to manage bounty campaigns for any project without taking some time to look at the prospects of such project?  

I think there should be some experienced members of this forum apart from moderators (because moderators' works might be too enormous) that should be in charge of reviewing projects before bounty managers are allowed to create bounty and/or announcement threads for such projects.  If this can be done effectively, I think the advent of these unworthy projects can be mitigated.

To wrap it up, a bounty manager once told me when I called his attention to some unrealistic plans of the project he was managing, he said he is not concerned about the success of the project, once he gets his weekly payment from the team. I want to know if there are some levels of punishment for bounty managers that manage unworthy projects apart from negative trust?

Scams are not moderated here,so even if someone post blatant scam technique then it has less chance of getting deleted.

Bounty managers also holds some responsibility while picking bounty to promote than that is why some of the most reputed managers are not taking about bounties even if the team promises to pay for them upfront because they care about their reputation.

Many bounty managers got tagged for the reason you mentioning but don't completely rely on them while selecting bounties.

[forexandcryptoauditor]

Reviewing projects which as posted in bounty thread by moderates a good idea. But not sure if it is feasible for them or not.
I must say the the reason behind such bounty managers running bounty without doing due diligence is because they must be getting paid in ETH or BTC. So they don't worry about project's future.

[CarnagexD]

Stop cribbing about Bounty projects and those managing them. If you do not have the understanding to choose the right project then it is your fault not the managers or the project.

You are never forced to work for a project. There are scams and scammers every where, you need to identify them.

It is our responsibility to search through a certain project before joining it. We need to see the team's background and read the whitepaper to see if it is really trustworthy. The blame would always be ours whenever we get scammed cause if we end up on that position, then we missed some precautions upon joining a campaign.

We shouldn't blame anyone if we participated a shit project or be scammed by it.
We should learn to choose where to participate and we should learn to accept that it was our fault for being scammed,
If we just spend some time to look at the project and did our own research then we wouldn't get scammed or joined those shitty project.

As I was saying, it was our very responsiblity to look for the best project at the moment so that our time and efforts wouldn't go to waste at the end of the day. We need to be more careful and more eager to see and find out a legit campaign. We cannot blame it to the manager or to the team, it is all our decision that led us to that specific situation.

[carriebee]

Reviewing projects which as posted in bounty thread by moderates a good idea. But not sure if it is feasible for them or not.
I must say the the reason behind such bounty managers running bounty without doing due diligence is because they must be getting paid in ETH or BTC. So they don't worry about project's future.

Well that's a must to do before joining a bounty to review the project if it is worth of our time and effort. Bounty managers accepts a project with payment and also they're one of the victims of a scam. It is not right to blame others, instead, our job to do diligence before joining.

[Iyanu14]

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some bounty hunters will be very happy if they receive the token, even if the token that is shared is a scam or fraud token. Receiving tokens is better than nothing.
The token will be a decorative asset in the wallet that reminds that the token was generated from a scam project that cheats many people.

I have a wallet full of "decorative" tokens from various exit scams that seemed promising and legit, but in the end turned out to be worthless.
Want to buy them to decorate your man cave walls?

Hhmm... "decorative assets" I can't just count the the whole lots of them in my wallets. Sometimes it got me angry that I deactivate them on my imtoken because I just don't want to be seen them and be thinking I have something meaningful. Anyway, as I advance in experience I began to choose carefully any project I participate in, so that it won't be an exercise in futility.

[sayaya17]

I see now many new managers here and there are also old managers who are trusted and very credible, so in my opinion choosing a manager to participate in a project can be an alternative choice to follow a project, but indeed what I say is not necessarily able to guarantee the project is good and will pay well as we expect. But Op's idea is also good if there really has to be someone in charge to review the project before the manager is allowed to make bounty for a new project.

[adzino]

It's no more news that many of us would have had some horrible experiences participating in some resources wasting projects. However, my opinion is that, do bounty managers just accept hook line and sinker to manage bounty campaigns for any project without taking some time to look at the prospects of such project?  

I think there should be some experienced members of this forum apart from moderators (because moderators' works might be too enormous) that should be in charge of reviewing projects before bounty managers are allowed to create bounty and/or announcement threads for such projects.  If this can be done effectively, I think the advent of these unworthy projects can be mitigated.

To wrap it up, a bounty manager once told me when I called his attention to some unrealistic plans of the project he was managing, he said he is not concerned about the success of the project, once he gets his weekly payment from the team. I want to know if there are some levels of punishment for bounty managers that manage unworthy projects apart from negative trust?

Like the person you contacted said, as long as they get paid properly, they wouldn't care much if the project is legit or not, or if it is going to scam its participants and investors or not. Sadly, they managers getaway with this crime.
What makes you think that the "experienced members" won't make a wrong call? What makes you think those members won't go rouge or corrupt?
Stop depending on people to help you find out a scam or not. Do it yourself. Trust your intuition.

[sulendra12]

So now who's to blame for such kind of scenario?

That's either the bounty is blatantly accepting anything as long as they can get money from managing the campaigns or the projects turned out to be scam projects. If the latter then we have no right and power to actually change it.

But if we make considerations then he might be forgiven IMO (unless he is aware of this from the very start) and avoid getting red trust .

Yea, we can't just judge someone from one perspective :d

But what good does that do? Would hunters really be happier receiving X amount of scam tokens than not receiving them at all?
What do you plan to do with those scam tokens which aren't tradable and are basically worthless?

I'd go with the latter, but it would have been much better to actually inform us that certain projects are scam without waiting until the end of the sales.

[vermigerous]

Bounty hunter must be patient in all aspects as many fraud or scam projects everyday. We should have the risk to participate or dont expect to earn much in bounty campaign. As for the bounty managers, we should only stick to those managers who are trusted to handle the bounty project so that we refrain from not given the rewards.

[torrantz]

Bounty hunter must be patient in all aspects as many fraud or scam projects everyday. We should have the risk to participate or dont expect to earn much in bounty campaign. As for the bounty managers, we should only stick to those managers who are trusted to handle the bounty project so that we refrain from not given the rewards.

The hunters have already aware of that but the majority of hunters have tried their chance by joining in almost all of the bounty campaign. The risk will always there but we must think wisely to make our chance to get the legit bounty will be very high. it looks very difficult to do that but just try that,