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Copy paste from my WO post. Serious suspicions I have. What do you think? Disskuss. The Need for Good Digital ID is Universal
The ability to prove who you are is a fundamental and universal human right. Because we live in a digital era, we need a trusted and reliable way to do that both in the physical world and online.
https://id2020.org/alliancehttp://archive.is/wip/ZObMSIt is happening.
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I don't think so. Coronoviruses have been known for years. They, like all other viruses, are constantly mutating and it's harder and harder for mankind to create vaccines to fight them. Throughout the history of mankind, new outbreaks of various epidemics are taking millions of lives from time to time.
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In nature, there are checks and balances. To bypass these checks and balances, there has to be some really good planning and thinking. I don't know if Gates and his crew are behind CV or not. Some people say "yes," but others "no." Where is the proof, one way or the other? BUT... Bypassing the checks and balances of nature is difficult. Nature is so complex, that to build a Coronavirus, one needs to take into account many variables in nature. The best way to do this is to feed the variables into a complex, AI computer, and let the AI figure it all out. Probably people can't think well enough to think it out, anyway. Bill Gates is computer. So is IBM, and other companies. They might be working together behind the scenes. BUT... This isn't proof. 
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October 2019 at John Hopkins U they had a conference about the “fictional” Coronavirus. Then he steps down from Microsoft
At his ted talk he straight up admitted to trying to reduce the population, he’s sick asf man.
If ID2020 comes to fruition, as well as the marker that MIT and Microsoft made to show if someone has been vaccinated, it is a recipe for "get the coronavirus vaccine, or don't participate in society"
...the aftermath is where I'm looking because this virus isn't gonna hurt me or 90%+ of people, as is the statistics for any flu (which they have yet to make a vaccine for, as the flu shot is merely a combination of the prior year's 3 most common strains, yet we are to believe a coronavirus vaccine exists and this is ignoring that mutations even exist, c'mon... just merely follow the money trail and the answers are obvious)
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Antisemitic 'canard' and 'trope'.
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In nature, there are checks and balances. To bypass these checks and balances, there has to be some really good planning and thinking. I don't know if Gates and his crew are behind CV or not. Some people say "yes," but others "no." Where is the proof, one way or the other? BUT... Bypassing the checks and balances of nature is difficult. Nature is so complex, that to build a Coronavirus, one needs to take into account many variables in nature. The best way to do this is to feed the variables into a complex, AI computer, and let the AI figure it all out. Probably people can't think well enough to think it out, anyway. Bill Gates is computer. So is IBM, and other companies. They might be working together behind the scenes. BUT... This isn't proof.  the problem is for financial gains people deliberately lie, or accuse and suspect others that might be completely innocent, like china that wants to get rid of blame.
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Of course there is no proof... It is just I find it suspicious that a billionaire like Bill Gates have been talking about reducing the world population, creating effective vaccines, warning people against epidemics etc etc.
What was Bill's profession again?
Was he a doctor?
No.
He is a god damn computer geek.
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It would seem more likely that someone working in a CDC center in China forgot some sort of protocol for decontamination and the virus escaped.
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It would seem more likely that someone working in a CDC center in China forgot some sort of protocol for decontamination and the virus escaped.
Or was intentionally let out... dum dum dum! To me it looks like a virus strain that was made to rid the world of elderly and sickly.
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He certainly did not create it, maybe some finacing. It was certainly talked about as 10 year old video proves. https://tinyurl.com/tdcvx45
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Too mad conspiracy theory
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Nah man, I don't think that's the case. Because even if he's a billionaire, he would still be prosecuted if he's responsible for deaths in a global range. There are lots of other ways to reduce global population and control it, and spreading a new disease is not a good option out of them lol.
Of course, we all have opinions. But did you see what you just said? Isn't a billionaire kinda smart and shrewd to become a billionaire, and/or maintain his billions? The whole idea of a billionaire doing something that would cause him to be implicated is kinda silly, don't you think? So, bringing it up is kinda silly, don't you think? What is the best way to keep from being implicated, and yet do the dirty work? Isn't it to simply do the dirty work, and to hide the fact that you are doing it, as much as possible? If Gates is behind it, or one of several who are behind it, look at how well he/they have hidden the fact. You show it, yourself. You said, "Because even if he's a billionaire, he would still be prosecuted if he's responsible for deaths in a global range." And a lot of people will think just the way you do. This means that the elite(s) who are behind CV, could best protect themselves by just covertly doing it, and then letting the people find them not guilty in the same way you are. IF THEY DID IT, they did it covertly enough that it will take a chunk of investigation to prove it. So, in some ways I am saying the same thing you said in your last sentence, above... but not in every way. 
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Of course there is no proof... It is just I find it suspicious that a billionaire like Bill Gates have been talking about reducing the world population, creating effective vaccines, warning people against epidemics etc etc.
What was Bill's profession again?
Was he a doctor?
No.
He is a god damn computer geek. I also have strong opinions on the respective topics of overpopulation, vaccines, and epidemics. (In my case, that last is my opinion of the risk that modern transportation technology can easily turn a local problem into a global pandemic, almost overnight. What would happen if another Black Death were to occur in the era of aeroplanes and automobiles? That would be a nuclear weapon, compared in relative terms to a .22 calibre coronavirus pistol. No, I do not want to get shot with a .22 pistol, either!) —Also, many opinions on etc., etc. I am not a doctor. I suppose that you could call me “a god damn computer geek” (though I would object, on grounds that I am anti-technocratic). If I were also a billionaire, would you be suspicious that I had created SARS-CoV-2?  People are going to die. Yes. That’s life.
I find myself arguing against each and all of: - Panic.
- Fantastic dolts who suppose that SARS-CoV-2 must be somehow of different origins from the 2002–03 SARS-CoV. Wow, a zoonotic jumped species—as has doubtless been the origin of countless diseases throughout the whole history of all living creatures on Earth. It is closely related to another zoonotic that also jumped species. Clearly, the most likely explanation is that this is a genetically engineered bioweapon!
- Panic.
- Destroying all that remains of civilization, for the purpose of failing to save it.
- Panic.
- Tyranny. The naïve, fallible mortal human in me is shocked that nobody notices we have instantaneously entered an era of global dictatorship, without any significant resistance or even protest. The dispassionate scholar knows human nature, and is therefore not surprised. The new normality is that every government everywhere can issue any “emergency” order they want, and nobody will even complain! WTF. Are you awake? (Nice question.)
- Panic.
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Except, he is not only talk. He is not just expressing his opinion. He is putting serious money on what he is talking about.
And yes, I find it suspicious as fuck.
Just watch the links I posted and you decide.
Either it was one of the videos above or some other one (I know he is talking about it in the 4th link, but I was trying to remember another one), he actually said that he has been looking for ways to reduce the world population. WTF? What does that have to do with creating vaccines? You create vaccines to stop people from dying not the other way around.
It is all in front of you if you know how to look.
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March 20, 2020, 06:59:06 PM |
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It is not just one sentence which is suspicious, it is everywhere. Watch the goddamn videos. They are all over youtube. There are many more.
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... Either it was one of the videos above or some other one, he [Gates] actually said that he has been looking for ways to reduce the world population. WTF? What does that have to do with creating vaccines? You create vaccines to stop people from dying not the other way around. ...
The argument that Gates apologists use is that by ensuring that babies will survive through the miracle of vaccines, women won't want to have to many kids. They'll point to the more developed countries as evidence. To be fair, this is not a totally bogus idea. I don't buy it, though, in part because in my research I find the impacts of vaccines to be anything but a positive factor in raising a kid to productive adulthood (where they will, with luck, assist the parent in their old age.) Being highly devastating to health, vaccines are great for prescription drug and adult diaper sales though. Another reason I don't buy it is that Gates cannot hide his duping delight and his creepy smirk whenever he talks about how great vaccines are for the recipient and for the world. Apparently Daddy Gates was head of planned parenthood so it seems that he came from a family of eugenicists (planned parenthood evolving straight out of the eugenics movement which was popular in pre-wwII America but lost it's luster when Nazi Germany implemented what they called 'the American Plan' to strengthen the strain.)
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Btw, I do think the world is overpopulated and something had to be done.
I agree with him.
But pulling a Thanos on half of the world population by creating a virus? That's fucked up.
I quite liked what Thanos did in the movie. (But that was a fcking movie) Can't believe it is happening for real now. They were preparing us for this.
It is all in front of you.
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Crikey, again, I myself have said similarly before! Let’s see... - The Spanish flu pandemic of 1918–20 infected 500 million, killed 50 million worldwide (at a time when the world’s population was much smaller, and commercial passenger air transportation did not yet exist—aeroplanes were still quite new technology)
- The coronavirus outbreak of 2002–03
- Other reasons I have no time to list here
Maybe there is your “why”. Just my own little pet theory. 
It is not just one sentence which is suspicious, it is everywhere. Watch the goddamn videos. They are all over youtube. There are many more. Youtube is a great place to cook your mind with arrant nonsense. Rule of thumb: Anybody who has something serious to report on such matters will reduce it to writing: An information-dense format that admits easy skimming for early evaluation, and also makes it easy to provide citations to sources of information. Anytime anybody tells me that there is a big secret with the proofs on Youtube, my response is the same: Will not waste my time.FYI, the “all over Youtube” category includes positive proofs that the Earth is flat, the moon landings were a hoax, etc., etc. Youtube has a sort of a reputation that way. I know this because I have spent much time researching claims about secret truths. Some of those claims are not fallacious. You will not find the proofs on Youtube.
To be fair, this is not a totally bogus idea. I don't buy it, though, in part because in my research I find the impacts of vaccines to be anything but a positive factor in raising a kid to productive adulthood (where they will, with luck, assist the parent in their old age.) Being highly devastating to health, vaccines are great for prescription drug and adult diaper sales though. A question that I have been intending to ask you in the other thread, where you ignored my challenge (just have not caught up there due to it being a low priority amongst high priorities): Do you suggest to parents that all their kids will be just fine without vaccines, with low or no risk of childhood death from illness?...or: ...oh no, I may have just been kicked out. I said something that I can predict with arithmetical certainty Dr. o_e_l_e_o will disagree with! Surely, he will now censor me out of existence. I have long fancied sitting down with an anti-vaxer, looking him deadpan in the eye, and telling him that yes, I fully agree that all childhood vaccinations should be stopped: Vaccination removes the necessary selective pressure for a healthy, robust, finely-tuned immune system—and substitutes in its place the empty hybris of a supposition that humans can cure all diseases.
Hey, anti-vaxers, here is a challenge for you: I will publicly support you, if you will be the first to step up and declare that much though we may wish otherwise, we need some more dead kids in each generation—to prevent unlimited mass suffering and potential extinction in all the generations yet unborn.
I need not reach the question of how bad the side effects of vaccines are or aren’t. Of course, all medicines have side effects. Whether vaccines are benign except in a few rare, unfortunate cases, or causing widespread injuries about which The Truth is suppressed by The Medical Establishment, the answer is irrelevant to me.
[...] I don’t need to know medicine: I know history. People used to have eight, ten, or even twenty (yes, literally, twenty) kids with the knowledge that some would die, and others would survive... tvbcof, want to take up my challenge here, where I can’t use self-mod powers to “censor” you? Stop being a wimp. Speak up for The Truth!
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