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June 13, 2020, 10:33:48 PM
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what do you think---are entire industries about to disappear because of the pandemic? will some aspects of the economy and general life irreversibly change after this?

Such narrative are problematic in my opinion. I remember the narrative of "the end of history" by Francis Fukuyama at the beginning of the 1990s after the breakdown of the Soviet Union. A narrative which was supported and spread by so many intellectuals. Today we know the narrative was wrong.

Or the narrative at the beginning of the 2000s that the future of the economy is not in industry and production, but in the service sector. We have known since 2008 that this was wrong. Those countries that have relied on service and cut back on their industry have so far recovered less well than those that have continued to rely heavily on industry.

Nevertheless, such crises always change the world sustainably. The only question is how much.
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June 14, 2020, 06:00:35 PM
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what do you think---are entire industries about to disappear because of the pandemic? will some aspects of the economy and general life irreversibly change after this?

Such narrative are problematic in my opinion. I remember the narrative of "the end of history" by Francis Fukuyama at the beginning of the 1990s after the breakdown of the Soviet Union. A narrative which was supported and spread by so many intellectuals. Today we know the narrative was wrong.

Or the narrative at the beginning of the 2000s that the future of the economy is not in industry and production, but in the service sector. We have known since 2008 that this was wrong. Those countries that have relied on service and cut back on their industry have so far recovered less well than those that have continued to rely heavily on industry.

Nevertheless, such crises always change the world sustainably. The only question is how much.


After months, I think you can already see that industries that are most affected by this pandemic is slowly crawling back. Some reopened and some finds new ways of delivering their services to their customers. Even basketball and other sports are slowly coming back, as long as the safety of the people involved is the priority. Film productions starts filming too with limited staff. I think companies and industries affected will surely get back, some might take longer than the others but I'm sure they will be back.

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June 14, 2020, 11:09:47 PM
Last edit: June 17, 2020, 01:04:39 PM by Heart18
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After all this trying times, where end is hard to predict...returning back to normal is absolutely so impossible for us. But amidst of this devastating crisis, where health problems, thousands of job loss, and even business establishments are still closed and industries are struggling,  we still need to have a positive mind. We need to stand up and keep following the governments policies and strong regulations pertaining to our safety. Its hard to leave behind the normal life that we used to live, but we need to just go with the flow, cope up all this things by this time in this so-called "New Normal", for its the best thing to do in order for us to survive from this Pandemic.
And I strongly believe that bitcoin and cryptocurrencies are really advisable and a big help now and that people must try and learn how to invest and trade and a lot of things in this industry as part of our New Normal.
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June 15, 2020, 12:45:32 AM
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Yes it surely have changed our behavior and ways of how we do things, relationship of countries are surely affected and the life were gonna live after this pandemic will be far different from the life we live before this but in a positive way like government should provide more care to our health workers and give more funds to health because this is every sibgle countries weakness. People will stock more often than they usually do because of what happened but i see it in a positive way. I don't think movie theaters will die first or even just die, people will appreciate the things they do after this pandemic ends so watching movies will not die for most of us loves going into cinemas. Things will get back to normal but people will be more careful of their health and hygene.

It's actually fascinating to see how us as a society have changed so much our customs seemingly overnight. I'd wager that office space renters will probably take a big hit, things like cowork, wework and such.

Things will not get completely back to normal, I for one support the widespread use of masks.
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June 15, 2020, 01:29:23 AM
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Our world has encountered many pandemics already. But we always get back up. Personally, I believe that we will still go back to normal. However, it would be a "new normal" and there would be changes. Face masks, and alcohol would be the new accessories, and work from home would probably be implemented.

But no matter what happens, every country will surely find a way to revive their economy. Life must always go on.

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June 15, 2020, 11:25:28 PM
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Yeah the possibility for everything to return to normal is there and is also base on the leaders of the country because I believe that this pandemic caused many crisis in many countries, so in my perspective I have to comprehend that some countries is going back to there initial stand and some is still planing to strategies on what to do and how to handle the situation of their economy. There are three basic things that will speed up a country to return to normal.
1.good governance for the country

2.understanding and transparency in leadership

3.adequate security to the country

4.provision of social amenities

From my ideology a good governance is when a political leader knows the problem of the society and ensure that nobody complain for the needs or wants of the less privileges without embezzlement of funds.
And government have to understand the system of governance within their selves to avoid political crisis which can bring down their economy so  the actually need is transparency in order to build up trust that will enable their country to return to normal if anything go wrong, so the possibility for a country to remain comfortable to individuals is base on government.
Adequate security, if a country is unsecured base on lack of security nobody will like to speak for the betterment of the country.
Finally social amenities like healthcare and others, for example covid19 pandemic across the country if not well handle at this point the country can never return normal but if properly handle with qualified medical practitioners it can damage image of a country, but if handled properly a country can return to normal.
All this points can make country to come in order or normal.

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June 16, 2020, 04:14:31 AM
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Our world has encountered many pandemics already.


But this is far different from the past pandemics because now this is a worldwide and almost couple of countries only that did not become infected meaning this is very serious matter and look we have more than half a million died.
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 But we always get back up. Personally, I believe that we will still go back to normal. However, it would be a "new normal" and there would be changes. Face masks, and alcohol would be the new accessories, and work from home would probably be implemented.
Of course we will go back to normal (if the cure has found) but the question is how long will it take for us to return to normal?thats the big question.

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But no matter what happens, every country will surely find a way to revive their economy. Life must always go on.
Revival is a target but the longer it takes the riskier it gets so lets hope and pray for the world to be healed sooner.
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June 16, 2020, 07:38:49 AM
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Our world has encountered many pandemics already. But we always get back up. Personally, I believe that we will still go back to normal. However, it would be a "new normal" and there would be changes. Face masks, and alcohol would be the new accessories, and work from home would probably be implemented.

But no matter what happens, every country will surely find a way to revive their economy. Life must always go on.
Face masks outrage me the most. They do not help, they do not protect. This is recognized by the world health organization. But now in my country they force me to wear masks on the beach! on the beach ... I still can’t believe in the actions of the authorities.

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July 16, 2020, 09:58:33 AM
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It's funny to observe here in the UK how we were all prepared to "returning to normal". The travel industry was particularly optimistic, believing that our planes would soon fly all over Europe again. However, when one sees that the borders are closing one bye one for the UK citizens (see : https://hello-safe.co.uk/media/where-can-brits-go-this-summer), it becomes obvious that the situation is not returning to normal. The economy may not collapse - as predicted by many - but our processes and ways of making business are already transforming. A new economy shall reveal itself, where every company has to adapt to survive...
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July 16, 2020, 10:49:47 AM
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Our world has encountered many pandemics already.


But this is far different from the past pandemics because now this is a worldwide and almost couple of countries only that did not become infected meaning this is very serious matter and look we have more than half a million died.
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That's surely a lot and regrettable, but please keep in mind that more than 6 million people died in 2017(when no COVID-19 was around) from respiratory diseases and lower respiratory infections, combined.

Source: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/annual-number-of-deaths-by-cause

It means that much more than half a million is needed to threaten the world economy.

I don't want to belittle the tragedy of the COVID-19 pandemic here. No. Of course it's horrible that so many people have died. I just want to say that in my opinion the economy will survive the corona crisis.

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July 16, 2020, 11:14:29 AM
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That's surely a lot and regrettable, but please keep in mind that more than 6 million people died in 2017(when no COVID-19 was around) from respiratory diseases and lower respiratory infections, combined.

Source: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/annual-number-of-deaths-by-cause

It means that much more than half a million is needed to threaten the world economy.

I don't want to belittle the tragedy of the COVID-19 pandemic here. No. Of course it's horrible that so many people have died. I just want to say that in my opinion the economy will survive the corona crisis.
Of course, it will survive. Many infrastructures and different businesses have reopened, despite having this pandemic around, they have decided to get back their operation to at least start the recovery of the economy. But, we should keep in mind that as long as the number of infected people are increasing, the threat will always be there.
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July 16, 2020, 04:10:22 PM
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Returning to normal is really hard because of the pandemic, the pandemic really change everything, people need to be more careful and wear a protective gear everyday and stay at home for safety reason, it is hard to turn into normal if there is still no cure for the pandemic we need to follow the safety guidelines and wait for the very best time to be free again, because i believe that the cure is there they only make some test for asurance.
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July 17, 2020, 10:13:19 AM
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Our world has encountered many pandemics already.


But this is far different from the past pandemics because now this is a worldwide and almost couple of countries only that did not become infected meaning this is very serious matter and look we have more than half a million died.
~

That's surely a lot and regrettable, but please keep in mind that more than 6 million people died in 2017(when no COVID-19 was around) from respiratory diseases and lower respiratory infections, combined.

Source: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/annual-number-of-deaths-by-cause

It means that much more than half a million is needed to threaten the world economy.

I don't want to belittle the tragedy of the COVID-19 pandemic here. No. Of course it's horrible that so many people have died. I just want to say that in my opinion the economy will survive the corona crisis.
Of course, it will survive. Many infrastructures and different businesses have reopened, despite having this pandemic around, they have decided to get back their operation to at least start the recovery of the economy. But, we should keep in mind that as long as the number of infected people are increasing, the threat will always be there.

The fact that the number of "Daily Cases" is increasing doesn't mean that we actually have more cases now than, say, in April. Rather, it means that more people are tested today than back then.

What would be really intimidating is if the number of "Daily Deaths" would be rising. But that's not what's happening:



The number of "Deaths per Day" has never reached a new high since middle April, and that's a good sign.

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July 17, 2020, 03:18:00 PM
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I think some industries will still recover on this new normal but i am scared that this new normal will bring very high record of deaths. Virus keep on transmitting to many people and everyday new high records of positive. Maybe the economy will recover in exchange of the life of many people.

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I can't figure out why exactly COVID-19 caused such a panic? We have millions of people dying from other diseases. In our country, there are many people infected with AIDS and tuberculosis. And this pandemic has been around for a long time. Let me be wrong, but it seems to me that all the hype around the pandemic is very inflated and connected with big game, that government has conceived. There is a lot of money involved here. Because PR at the beginning of the pandemic was huge.

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I can't figure out why exactly COVID-19 caused such a panic? We have millions of people dying from other diseases. In our country, there are many people infected with AIDS and tuberculosis. And this pandemic has been around for a long time. Let me be wrong, but it seems to me that all the hype around the pandemic is very inflated and connected with big games, that government has conceived. There is a lot of money involved here. Because PR at the beginning of the pandemic was huge.

When the pandemic outbreak starts there is a lot of countries right now are having an economic crisis because of this virus spreading rapidly and also unexpectedly this is one of the most problems right now some of the countries are having a lot of debt into the different country because they need to sustain the life that they have also they are heading towards to find a cure immediately.  Right now it is not all about the outbreak too because there are a lot of people having a problem and also the COVID and some of the people do have different sick to aside this virus.

But still, our government are trying to make a lot of things just to control the environment and avoid getting panicked to the people around them but still, we cannot avoid this because the number of the infected is increasing and the number of the cases of the death toll is increasing too. Heading towards into the positive side there is still some country that is actually a COVID free and they can now turn back into their normal lives.

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I can't figure out why exactly COVID-19 caused such a panic? We have millions of people dying from other diseases. In our country, there are many people infected with AIDS and tuberculosis. And this pandemic has been around for a long time. Let me be wrong, but it seems to me that all the hype around the pandemic is very inflated and connected with big game, that government has conceived. There is a lot of money involved here. Because PR at the beginning of the pandemic was huge.
Same thought, COVID-19 is one of the mainstream viruses spreading around the world but some already forgot that there are other diseases that cause more danger to our body. Why did the COVID-19 be in the mainstream right now? because the spreading of the virus is very fast and many have suffered and died already because none of us doesn't know how to prevent or cure this thing. The cases around the world are increasing day by day, and many people are dying and the economy was affected due to lockdown or quarantine. 
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July 17, 2020, 11:20:19 PM
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It will soon return to normal. We have to wait for the vaccine for us to he immune in this virus. And once we will be able to fight this virus confidently then we can go back to normal. For now, due to lon days of being like this having a different way of living seems to begin like normal to us. Others consider it already the new normal. So we do not have choice but to keep.ourselves gettinh infected with the.virus. It may not be fatal for others but to other who had been already health problems may get complicated to which it could result to death to others.
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COVID-19 has caused a lot of panic in the world In that case it is very difficult to say how long it will take to get back to normal Without adequate vaccines this disease cannot be completely controlled Although the effect has diminished a bit it is reappearing.

However, experts say it will take 12 to 18 months for the vaccine to arrive If they receive this vaccine they will not get sick from exposure to the coronavirus If 80 per cent of the population is vaccinated the virus will not spread.

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July 18, 2020, 07:35:03 AM
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I can't figure out why exactly COVID-19 caused such a panic? We have millions of people dying from other diseases. In our country, there are many people infected with AIDS and tuberculosis. And this pandemic has been around for a long time. Let me be wrong, but it seems to me that all the hype around the pandemic is very inflated and connected with big game, that government has conceived. There is a lot of money involved here. Because PR at the beginning of the pandemic was huge.

Maybe because its a virus easy to acquired and without a vaccine yet? I'm not really that scared to it but what I'm scared of is to those family members who would suffer a lot if I get one. I'm young and I don't have any disease that will be worst when I acquire the virus. Aids can be regulated, you can live with it, tuberculosis can be cured. But this virus strikes different, if you ain't healthy you can die asap.

Don't really believe with the stories you have read from somewhere, it really takes a few click to search about it.

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