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This is a proof that economy is more important for them than health. We saw some of the training places for NBA that are opened already so that they can train there. In this case, their mayor wants Las Vegas to be open because they got a lot of money from the casinos. Their economy is heavily affected by this virus and opening of casinos would be a bad idea for me. I know that they are one of the most powerful countries in the world but right now they are in a battle with an invisible enemy and the number of cases keeps growing so I totally disagree with this. I hope that this will not happen or they will suffer really bad.
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This is a proof that economy is more important for them than health And this is a tricky and even touchy question What is more important, the health of a single individual (even 100,000 individuals, for that matter) or the health of the whole nation (over 300M people in case of the US)? Yeah, I know that every life is as important as everyone else's, but you can't run away from this heavy and tough choice (provided it is up to you), just like a surgeon has to choose whether to chop off a limb and save the organism or lose both in case of a gangrene or something as bad and life-threatening. To cut a long story short, the failure of the entire economy may cause far more destruction and damage than any coronovirus outbreak would ever be able to wreak. Such is life, then you die (and not necessarily from a virus)
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May 08, 2020, 09:24:18 PM |
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That would be crazy, there is still a pandemic and they plan to do business, this is what happens when people ignore science, they will abandon all reason just so they can earn a profit. The worse thing here is that they are abandoning their ethical and moral obligation to the citizens of Las Vegas, I get that their place will not function because most of the businesses there is gambling and that "they care" about the people not getting a paycheck to put food for the table but would you sacrifice the well being of your biggest natural resource which is human resource, this action is a face palm for me, truly disappointing.
I think they just don't have any other choice because their economy is starting to fall drastically, and this is something that they don't want to happen. They think that this is the only solution for their problems, this is crazy because it will look like they are disregarding the safety of their citizen and by doing this, they won't apply social distancing, and people won't stay in their homes. Economy is important, but if you don't have citizens what do you do with the economy? Coronavirus is not only a disease, but also a threat to human life. If we want to win against it, we must have to follow the rules. Do you know "World Health Organization" says there is possibility of a second-stage covid-19 infection, and that it will be more God-awful? In that case, if the mayor of Las Vegas lifted all the lock-downs to keep the economy afloat, it would be utter nonsense, first of all the mayor should ensure the safety of the citizens.
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Actually those who wanted the lockdown to be lifted are those employees and workers that has nothing to spend now,they are looking for job to have foods in their table and money to pay bills.
People who have money don't want the lockdown to be lifted? I guess who have money also wanted to go outside and wanted to lead their normal life as before like hanging out with friends and girls and wanted to go out for party night,etc. I think we all want to return to our previous lives but those that have money can withstand the lockdown for a very long time while those that are poor or middle class cannot really afford to be on their home for months, the question is if trying to go back to normal is the right choice? And even if an attempt to do so is made will people return to their old spending habits? And that is doubtful, I think that what we are seeing is a complete shift in the priorities of people and many industries are going to suffer because of it including tourism.
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May 10, 2020, 09:23:21 PM |
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Actually those who wanted the lockdown to be lifted are those employees and workers that has nothing to spend now,they are looking for job to have foods in their table and money to pay bills.
People who have money don't want the lockdown to be lifted? I guess who have money also wanted to go outside and wanted to lead their normal life as before like hanging out with friends and girls and wanted to go out for party night,etc. I think we all want to return to our previous lives but those that have money can withstand the lockdown for a very long time while those that are poor or middle class cannot really afford to be on their home for months, the question is if trying to go back to normal is the right choice? And even if an attempt to do so is made will people return to their old spending habits? And that is doubtful, I think that what we are seeing is a complete shift in the priorities of people and many industries are going to suffer because of it including tourism. Each sector had been heavily affected by this pandemic not only on the tourism that you have mentioned but also into other field as well.Of course, all of us do like to go back to normal and i understand on what are the reasons why there are people specially this one mentioned on op are eager to make such step. We cant really sustain if this one would take for too long, lots would be heavily affected.Come to imagine that we are still a couple of months of this lockdown but we are already seeing and feeling the effects of it,how much more if it would last even more longer?
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May 10, 2020, 10:45:25 PM |
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Actually those who wanted the lockdown to be lifted are those employees and workers that has nothing to spend now,they are looking for job to have foods in their table and money to pay bills.
People who have money don't want the lockdown to be lifted? I guess who have money also wanted to go outside and wanted to lead their normal life as before like hanging out with friends and girls and wanted to go out for party night,etc. I think we all want to return to our previous lives but those that have money can withstand the lockdown for a very long time while those that are poor or middle class cannot really afford to be on their home for months, the question is if trying to go back to normal is the right choice? And even if an attempt to do so is made will people return to their old spending habits? And that is doubtful, I think that what we are seeing is a complete shift in the priorities of people and many industries are going to suffer because of it including tourism. Yes, for those who have money and want to rest for a while from work, of course will say: stay at home. But what answer do they have for those people who are in hunger? When they have fridge full of foods they think everyone shares the same. Of course hunger isn't infectious so who cares... They say like: You, hungry boy, stay at home cause virus can kill me and you. If we stay at home, I'll escape. Well, I agree with him. Not only casinos but in overall countries have to open. Your health is 100% linked to your economics, you have no tolerance on hunger but you may build one on virus.
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May 11, 2020, 05:10:04 AM |
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it will only put people at risk if they do that, they don't know what this virus is capable of doing, maybe they are being pressure by the establishment since they are paying taxes, i suggest they consider it before giving an order to reopen, if that happens, many people will die, and they will eventually suffer a big blow , and might lost bigger than before, this is not a joke many people die because of this pandemic, they should think about it.
The problem with that pressure the mayor needs to take action, though in a wide view point its still dangerous since if this will happen, gatherings from any places will be open and spread of the virus will be much easier, unless there's specific plans coming from the local government that have stricker rules in terms of social distancing and every security measures to avoid or prevent the spread.
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it will only put people at risk if they do that, they don't know what this virus is capable of doing, maybe they are being pressure by the establishment since they are paying taxes, i suggest they consider it before giving an order to reopen, if that happens, many people will die, and they will eventually suffer a big blow , and might lost bigger than before, this is not a joke many people die because of this pandemic, they should think about it.
It still depends, the risk depends on accurate count of numbers of infected, even though we know the risk of spreading the virus, we also know that the main business running in Vegas are casinos and stadiums, their economy will suffer if they don't open as there might be no alternative option to gain income aside from these two. But if they think they can handle the number of cases and they know they have already secured the virus, I think they have the right to open up these establishments again and put more precautionary measures and increase sanitation.
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May 11, 2020, 08:30:43 AM |
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it will only put people at risk if they do that, they don't know what this virus is capable of doing, maybe they are being pressure by the establishment since they are paying taxes, i suggest they consider it before giving an order to reopen, if that happens, many people will die, and they will eventually suffer a big blow , and might lost bigger than before, this is not a joke many people die because of this pandemic, they should think about it.
Yes and especially in the USA we have the world biggest number of infections and deaths which should make them think how badly the situation can precipitate.They don’t think about human lives and they only think of the money and maybe that is why this virus is good in one only aspect and that is people don’t see money as the only thing to fight for but rather they have started to value life more. During this pandemic someone said I never knew a time would come where you can have a lot of money and you have nowhere to spend them in the open life(not online).
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May 11, 2020, 09:31:42 AM |
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it will only put people at risk if they do that, they don't know what this virus is capable of doing, maybe they are being pressure by the establishment since they are paying taxes, i suggest they consider it before giving an order to reopen, if that happens, many people will die, and they will eventually suffer a big blow , and might lost bigger than before, this is not a joke many people die because of this pandemic, they should think about it.
The problem with that pressure the mayor needs to take action, though in a wide view point its still dangerous since if this will happen, gatherings from any places will be open and spread of the virus will be much easier, unless there's specific plans coming from the local government that have stricker rules in terms of social distancing and every security measures to avoid or prevent the spread. Well she is the Mayor then pressure cannot be towards her because businessman knew that what she did is only implementing the rules put by the government so there is no way that it will be a big issue on both parts.the only problem here is the operator of casino s are looking to make money soon while the problem is still rising better not support them and just let them become eager but the rules must be at works.
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May 11, 2020, 09:45:43 AM |
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it will only put people at risk if they do that, they don't know what this virus is capable of doing, maybe they are being pressure by the establishment since they are paying taxes, i suggest they consider it before giving an order to reopen, if that happens, many people will die, and they will eventually suffer a big blow , and might lost bigger than before, this is not a joke many people die because of this pandemic, they should think about it.
It still depends, the risk depends on accurate count of numbers of infected, even though we know the risk of spreading the virus, we also know that the main business running in Vegas are casinos and stadiums, their economy will suffer if they don't open as there might be no alternative option to gain income aside from these two. But if they think they can handle the number of cases and they know they have already secured the virus, I think they have the right to open up these establishments again and put more precautionary measures and increase sanitation. I just look at Las Vegas virus statistics, and they recently passed 6k mark of total confirmed cases having a total of 306 deaths, FYI. I can't see the total number of recoveries in the said place hence I can't say drastically whether that such place is worthy of allowing businesses to reoperate plus I am not any of an authority to decide it, it is for the sake of discussion lol. Well, anyway going back, Nevada governernor, had mentioned that there will be a reopening of non-eseential businesses on May 9, on the other hand this will turn out to be a sort of a test, evaluation of its impact, and decisions whether they should remain prohibited on opening or just temporarily open for public would have on the latter. Still health matters though. In addition this kind of thing risky decision of an authorities ain't happening in Las Vegas alone, it is just that public needs to have such businesses be open, at least. And oh... they are limiting people to accomodate at 50% capacity while maintaining social distancing. So, the thing that is worriesome here, is that, are citizens disciplined to follow guidelines here? 'Cause if they are not, then, there's no reason on imposing those rules, and in effect they have to remain shutdown so there will be no additional disturbance for health workers. You can see businesses that would be allowed to open here.
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May 11, 2020, 10:23:57 AM |
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That would be crazy, there is still a pandemic and they plan to do business, this is what happens when people ignore science, they will abandon all reason just so they can earn a profit. The worse thing here is that they are abandoning their ethical and moral obligation to the citizens of Las Vegas, I get that their place will not function because most of the businesses there is gambling and that "they care" about the people not getting a paycheck to put food for the table but would you sacrifice the well being of your biggest natural resource which is human resource, this action is a face palm for me, truly disappointing.
I think they just don't have any other choice because their economy is starting to fall drastically, and this is something that they don't want to happen. They think that this is the only solution for their problems, this is crazy because it will look like they are disregarding the safety of their citizen and by doing this, they won't apply social distancing, and people won't stay in their homes. Majorly economy of the world has taken a hit and not just one city. Many countries are under lock down from few weeks now and it has not only taken a backseat of economy many people would be turning jobless in coming time. This is going to be a very big crisis in coming time and safety is the first measure which can prevent many things. Else if it continues to rise this way the world will have many deaths of the people which we would not want. It all depends upon people if they can maintain the law and order with social distance then things could be under control else it can have adverse effect as well.
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May 11, 2020, 11:33:36 AM |
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Economy is important, but if you don't have citizens what do you do with the economy? Coronavirus is not only a disease, but also a threat to human life. If we want to win against it, we must have to follow the rules. Do you know "World Health Organization" says there is possibility of a second-stage covid-19 infection, and that it will be more God-awful? In that case, if the mayor of Las Vegas lifted all the lock-downs to keep the economy afloat, it would be utter nonsense, first of all the mayor should ensure the safety of the citizens.
Exactly, if there are no citizens that will survive against this pandemic, solving the problem with their economy will be useless. Regarding the second-stage COVID-19, that is exactly what Japan is currently facing right now. They lifted their lockdown so early, but they are now suffering with the virus again. Las Vegas should think that they might have the same fate as Japan, they should think twice of this decision.
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May 11, 2020, 04:23:34 PM |
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During the last week or so, a number of countries relaxed the lockdown measures. This includes Italy, South Korea, Spain and Germany. In almost all the cases, the infection rates skyrocketed. South Korea used to witness single digit cases until a week ago. Now thousands have been put on quarantine there. Lifting of lockdown is something that should be done very carefully, after a proper analysis.
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May 11, 2020, 05:24:12 PM |
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They are frustrated just for a few months of lockdown? when they're having a nonstop activity before this pandemic happened. They need to focus on how they will help people to recover from this pandemic and think about how they can help them with anything they need. they just being selfish and want to earn again as soon as possible. their selfishness is just one thing, their greed will let the people put in danger if they pursue this kind of act.
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I can't imagine that they can think of reopenning casinos in times like this, It is like they are disregarding the security of the health of every person residing in Las Vegas. The whole world is suffering, we are experiencing the same situation, economic crisis, lack of funds, increasing death, etc, this should not be done and what we should do is to stay at home until the vaccine is be created.
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They are frustrated just for a few months of lockdown? when they're having a nonstop activity before this pandemic happened. They need to focus on how they will help people to recover from this pandemic and think about how they can help them with anything they need. they just being selfish and want to earn again as soon as possible. their selfishness is just one thing, their greed will let the people put in danger if they pursue this kind of act.
The Mayor needs to make sure everything can be handled in terms of physical distancing and all those safety security measures before this kind of actions will take place. There's still no cure for this pandemic virus and with such statement it's risking the lives of many people who will going out and start to live in a normal daily routine once the city proceeds and open everything.
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May 12, 2020, 04:23:36 AM |
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The Mayor needs to make sure everything can be handled in terms of physical distancing and all those safety security measures before this kind of actions will take place. There's still no cure for this pandemic virus and with such statement it's risking the lives of many people who will going out and start to live in a normal daily routine once the city proceeds and open everything.
Have you checked the whole interview with Anderson Cooper? She doesn't cares about it. Here what happens: Anderson goes "How do you do social distancing in casino?" and Carolyn goes "That's upto them to figure out"... Lol seriously.. She doesn't knows anything, she just wants Las Vegas to get opened again and rest the precautions against virus are you to figure out. Mikel Jollett tweeted about US president: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FpKV1SJV.png&t=665&c=GiiLbiJBY8ZHiQ) Somehow it feels like the same but like the President, doesn't gives a shit about people but also doesn't knows how to stop the virus spread.
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May 14, 2020, 08:32:04 PM |
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I can't imagine that they can think of reopenning casinos in times like this, It is like they are disregarding the security of the health of every person residing in Las Vegas. The whole world is suffering, we are experiencing the same situation, economic crisis, lack of funds, increasing death, etc, this should not be done and what we should do is to stay at home until the vaccine is be created.
It may seem difficult to imagine but that is exactly what it is happening, and what it is even more worrying is that while it is understandable that some local governments want to open their cities there doesn't seem to be any kind of concern about how to do that while still preserving several of the precautions that we have currently in place, basically they want to open the city as if nothing is happening, and if that were to happen I'm sure that will eventually lead to an even longer period of social isolation and economic shutdown, but it seems that they do not see it that way.
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Nevada has remained somewhat safe when compared to the other states. As of now, they have only around 6,000 cases when compared to the figure of 80,000 in California and 14,000 in Arizona. But if the authorities go ahead with their relaxation plans, then they may witness a spike in Nevada at a time when the number of new infections are going down in the other states.
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