Why Same MERITED Rankers send Merits to themselves?

[Timmzzy]

Hello...

I have a question which concerned to merit? I came to notice that we have lots of newbies who are trying very hard to get merits here on this BITCOINTALK forum. With lots great topics that contributes and also supports to put this forum in a great shape in future. I believe legendary is the final rank on this forum Right?

Now what is the difference for a legendary to MERIT another legendary who is already a legendary RANKER on this forum, same goes to other SAME Rankers on the forum.

This alone I believe makes few low rank members in the forum ask this questions in their thoughts.

Please your REASONS for this welcomed...

[Crypto.Games]

Now what is the difference for a legendary to MERIT another legendary who is already a legendary RANKER on this forum, same goes to other SAME Rankers on the forum.

Because you send merit for the posts quality, and it shouldn't matter whether the user is a Newbie, Hero Member, Legendary or whatever other rank.

[YOSHIE]

Please your REASONS for this welcomed...

The reason is very simple, study, will, and knowledge.
However,
If your post like this is very thin what you expect, merit.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1014729;sa=showPosts;start=720

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1014729;sa=showPosts;start=620

Only you get a few tokens and make money, it doesn't generate merit.


However, if your post like this your dream will come true, merit.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5206035.0

You can get everything in the Bitcointalk Forum as long as you want to give the best for the members here.
Maybe try to fore the best post, you will definitely get Merit.
Note:
Merit is not moderated by Legendary or lower ranking, it's free to give and receive for quality reasons and useful posts.

[blue Snow]

You asking a good question and I am merited to helping you rank up as well.

this is a my reason

[BitMaxz]

The reason why they receive merits it's because the post is helpful and it gives the right solution on the topic. And the other reason is Legendary members are part of the distribution cycle to spread merit to other members. So that we can also give merits to the other members who contribute here on the forum. There are only a few merit sources who distributed merits to only those who truly deserve.

There is an old thread the same as this why not read them from here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4136268.0

[logfiles]

Merit is given to quality posts regardless of the rank. One would rather give more merits to a legendary Member who is contributing to the forum than a newbie who spams and makes only bounty reports.

Your assumption that Newbies are not given merits even when they try to me]make quality posts is wrong. I was also once a newbie with Zero Merits but now have more than 500. It all depends on how much you contribute to the forum in terms of helping other members and engaging in meaningful discussions.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Now what is the difference for a legendary to MERIT another legendary who is already a legendary RANKER on this forum, same goes to other SAME Rankers on the forum.

I generally tend to try to give merits to lower-ranked members who need them to rank up--but only if their posts are merit-worthy.  Often they aren't.  There are some threads I read through where most of the constructive posts which have obviously had thought put into them to be made by higher-ranked members--and more often than not, they're Legendaries.

OP, I don't know how important merits are to you personally or if you're looking to climb the ranks on the forum, but if either of those things are the case, you might want to either try to improve your English or post on a local board.  If you'd made a post like your OP in the middle of some other thread, I would have just skimmed it and quickly moved on.

Merits aren't supposed to be easy to earn.

[TheBeardedBaby]

Basically, you should merit a post not a person, it's another question if everyone is following it.

Merit above 1000 are for reputation, those who contribute to stand out no matter the rank.

People tend to exchange merit, but this is only a bad perception, many posts deserve merit but not so many have smerit to send, suddenly the majority of the active members merit each other.

PS. I had a plan to merit the OP because he was missing 1 merit to rank up, but I was dried out a few days ago and forgot about it. Somebody already done it. Good work.

[tranthidung]

In short, there are likely some factors that affect how users at different ranks have different merit usages:

• Understanding and experience on forum structures, rules, systems (include merit system)
• Post quality
• Ability to assess post quality of the others

Please read my very old analysis: Where receivers received merits from, and meriters sents merits to.

If you don't like boring figures, you can look at given bar charts. The fact is Legendary and Hero members have earned most merits on the forum and they surely have better knowledge on the forum structures, rules, especially how to use merits appropriately. More importantly, their post quality is much better than lower ranked users. Hence, I don't feel strange to see they send most of their sMerits to other Legendary and Hero members.

However, if you look at lower ranks, they have received most of their merits from higher ranks, especially from the Legendary and Hero member ranks. The three lower ranks: Jr. Member, Member, and Full member tend to send their sMerits to users who have same ranks too. I don't blindly say what they do are merit abuse but I am sure part of them do abuse the merit system. There is no in-depth analysis about it but I know when the demotion on Junior members in September 2018 (a spike, you can easily see it), there were massive merits distributed to demoted Jr. Members and help them ranking up again to Junior Members.

In ntransactions
Receivers:

• They received merits mostly from Legendary, and Hero members.
• Exception is Global moderators, who received merits from Legendary (1st), Staff (2nd), and Hero Member (3rd) but the difference in percents between Staff (15.3%) and Hero Member (14.8%) is very small.

Senders:

• They mostly send their sMerits to Legendary members.
• Jr. Members, Members, and Hero members usually sent their sMerits for the others at the same ranks.

In values of transactions
Receivers:

• For all ranks of receivers, majority of their earned merits come from Legendary members.
• Jr. Members: received their merits mostly from Legendary, Hero members, and Members (descendingly).
• Members: received their merits mostly from Legendary, Hero members and Members (descendingly).

Senders:
* Rememebers, stats are percentages in values of merit transactions.

• Brand new: Mostly (50%) sent their merits to Members.
• Jr. Members: sent their merits to Members (31.9%), Jr. Members (27.6%).
• Members: sent their merits to Members (39.6%), Jr. Members (14.8%).
• Full Members: sent their merits to Full Members (21.7%), Jr. Members (21.2%).
• Sr. Members: sent their merits nearly equally to Members to Legendary (with percentages from 16.7% to 18.8%).
• Hero members: sent their merits to Hero members (26.3%), Legendary (22.4%).
• Legendary members: sent their merits to Legendary members (37.2%), Hero members (20.4%).
• Staffs, and Global moderators: sent their merits to Legendary members and Hero members (from 16.9% - 34%).
  
• Admins: mostly sent merits to Sr. Members (23.1%).
  

[TryNinja]

I REALLY try to save merits for Newbies and low ranks, but being honest with you, there aren't a lot that deserve them. If I merited every single HQ post I found, which deserves merit, I would have none by now. And 80% or more of them would have been given to Hero-Legendary members. Right now, I have close to 150 sMerits which I can send to people and I'm somewhere this number for some time just because I hardly can find good posts (in my vision) from new users... Trust me, I would love to spend all my sMerits with Newbies and Jr. Members.

[rhomelmabini]

There's no rule that prohibit a Legendary rank to merit another Legendary or those other ranks. Newbies or those lower ranks like Jr. members that has good posts or other similar stuff are very rare and what I mostly see are just users that are just in a hurry to get the post quantity they need if they are on their signature campaign.

Boards also do have an impact if those newbies aren't just posting on those mega-spam boards mostly they can be found there and mostly those upper ranks for example merit source doesn't prefer to be bystander there, mostly they aren't. Are they really trying very hard to get those or it's just your perception? Because if they are they should have read the signs with concern on it, there are lot of topics here on how to get merits but those has been read by those newbies? I've been there but I haven't argue in regards to merit instead I chase how I will get them by just observation and through reading.

[gentlemand]

I'd love to merit only those who need to rank up but boy do the juniors make it hard.

There aren't many posts made by them that move me enough and I'm not going to merit anything for the sake of it.

I'm awful at handing it out in general but the legendaries tend to make the points and posts that hit the spot.

[hacker1001101001]

I believe legendary is the final rank on this forum Right?

Now what is the difference for a legendary to MERIT another legendary who is already a legendary RANKER on this forum, same goes to other SAME Rankers on the forum.

Yes, for now Legendary is the final rank but that doesn't mean they don't deserve or need any merits as there is a petition for the next rank already, something like Lambo !

I see, most of the merit sources probably complaining about not getting HQ posts from newbies around here to merit, which I would agree with in some cases.

[libert19]

I wonder same at times, it's much like real world economy where rich gets richer and poor stays poorer.

[Kupid002]

High ranked whos deserve a merit  base on the quality of the post  he make should also given merit what ever they rank is.

The merit given to High ranked member will also convert to smerit where they can also use to give to other user's  so its not really a big problem. besides merit is also part of requirements  if you will apply for a campaign so they also need to receive merit.

[Raytheon]

[...] it's much like real world economy where rich gets richer and poor stays poorer.

The "rich gets richer and poor stays poorer" is called "Matthew effect" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_effect). Applying this theory to Bitcointalk, it can be interpreted that if a problem or an idea spotted at the same time by a low ranked and a high ranked members, the high ranked member is recognized and the low ranked is easier to be overlooked. I'm not opposed to this Matthew effect, it's quite popular in real life. I usually talk to myself that, you can't change social prejudices on your own, all you can do is never stop proving yourself. One day your effort will be awarded deservedly or at least, you won't be regret that you haven't tried enough in the past.

Now what is the difference for a legendary to MERIT another legendary who is already a legendary RANKER on this forum, same goes to other SAME Rankers on the forum.

The forum is far different from a game - where you only need to try hard, kill bosses, clear maps... to rank up and then chill when you hit the highest rank. People are here for knowledge, discussions, bitcoin passion and so on. So just because of reaching the legend rank doesn't mean that they stop giving merit to other legends' good posts. At a certain level, merit is the measure of reputation, I think. There are merit sources to do the merit distribution and the number of them is increasing day by day.

[Timelord2067]

Wait until you uncover the Legendary users who gift other Legendary users up to 50 merits at a time.

Or re-discover the threads whose sole purpose is to say outlandish things and gift each-other merits in a circle-jerk of merit giving.

Or the mock indignation in the pretext of discussion about other user's reputations garnering those posters merits.

The list goes on.

[Upgrade00]

Asides from the effect of airdropped merits, those high ranked members were once newbies and they rose to that rank by earning merits. Merits are not given to ranks, there are legendaries who have not earned a single merit. As long as you keep dropping useful and relevant content, you'll get some. If you have a target you are pursuing then you may need to find a niche board and learn everything about it; this could be politics, mining etc.

while others spend merit based on both post quality and ranks (percentage of post quality/ranks may be vary).

I am averse to this, it's like meriting a shit post of a HQ poster cause they usually post good content. If a post is merit-worthy by your subjective standards, it should be merited.

[UserU]

Wait until you uncover the Legendary users who gift other Legendary users up to 50 merits at a time.

Or re-discover the threads whose sole purpose is to say outlandish things and gift each-other merits in a circle-jerk of merit giving.

Or the mock indignation in the pretext of discussion about other user's reputations garnering those posters merits.

The list goes on.

And then there's this  

[Bttzed03]

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Now what is the difference for a legendary to MERIT another legendary who is already a legendary RANKER on this forum

This is a little off-topic.

Legendaries who are active in signature campaigns needs few merits too because campaign managers would require or prefer those who received xx amount of merits in the last 120 days. If they don't meet such requirement, the chances of them getting accepted is lower.