🔥 FAKE: Defamation At Its Worst During Chipmixer Applications 🔥

[nutildah]

This whole drama created by a few Turkish members seems to be affecting the Local board overwhelmingly. Most Turkish users are interacting in Local and there view about Global is being manipulated by those caught in scamming activities. They are sowing general discord amongst the community with stupid conspiracy theories. I have been trying to talk with the people over at Turkish local. Here is a step-wise evolution of the matter.

1. REMOVAL OF KALEMDER
The whole thing started because Kalemder was removed from the ChipMixer campaign after he was found to have some "Mutual trust inclusion/ exclusion" affair with TECHSHARE. He says that he did it because he trusted TECHSHARE as he was speaking out against racism.

Bullshit. There was never any shred of evidence to support that idea, and it was based completely on an assumption on Nutilduhh's part, as they later admitted publicly.

Not at all. You have every much a right to include who you want as I do to assume you were fishing for reciprocal inclusions.

I mediated a dispute between Timelord and some members of the Turkish community, they added me, as a result I ended up back on the default trust list. Being the angry little ass clowns they are, they mobilized to invent several stories across multiple threads simultaneously to try to slander myself and others who had decided to add each other. Not because of mutual inclusions, but because our interaction had cultivated trust.

Liar.

This is the 3rd time I have to correct your lies on this issue. Were you just hoping I wouldn't see this, or what was your plan exactly?

That said, if you review the original thread Vod bases his accusation on, you will see I made an effort to mutually resolve a conflict between members of the Turkish community and Timelord. This lead to several interactions with several of the members of the Turkish community, of which I gained respect for because of how they handled the response. I must assume they felt the same way and this is why they added me. I didn't do anything I wasn't supposed to and these accusations are nothing but a tall tale designed to make sure I wasn't allowed to be put back on the default trust instigated by people with very long time, publicly documented animus against me.

Your timeline is off. The trust trading was happening well before your involvement with Timelord's fake flag bonanza.

The post you linked is dated September 7th, and you were playing trust games with Russian and Turkish local board posters from July through August. The only reason these users were on your radar was because they had recently been promoted to DT1, and like you, were either off or barely hanging on by 1-2 votes. Your other great rationale for adding local board posters is because somebody like Foxpup, suchmoon or myself distrust them, which according to you, "makes them interesting." Still a terrible reason to include someone in your trust list, and evidence you don't belong on DT.

Your first interaction with the Turkish community was on Sept. 7th, 2019.

- In the last week of July 2019, you added by rallier and PHI1618.
- In the week preceding 8/10, you added bobita, helping him to reach DT1 0, and he added you.
- In the week preceding 9/7, you added Kalemder, helping him to reach DT1 1, and he added you.

All of these additions took place before your first comment on the matter. It was because you had added these members to your trust list that you decided to "mediate" their dispute with Timelord, NOT the other way around.

As can be documented by your trust inclusion archive, you have a long history of adding people to your trust list as soon as they become DT1. It's obvious you are fishing for reciprocal inclusions. You're still doing it, BTW.

5/4/2020 10:16:29 PM   DaveF is selected into DT1
5/6/2020 1:56:59 AM     TECSHARE trusts DaveF

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[TECSHARE]

This whole drama created by a few Turkish members seems to be affecting the Local board overwhelmingly. Most Turkish users are interacting in Local and there view about Global is being manipulated by those caught in scamming activities. They are sowing general discord amongst the community with stupid conspiracy theories. I have been trying to talk with the people over at Turkish local. Here is a step-wise evolution of the matter.

1. REMOVAL OF KALEMDER
The whole thing started because Kalemder was removed from the ChipMixer campaign after he was found to have some "Mutual trust inclusion/ exclusion" affair with TECHSHARE. He says that he did it because he trusted TECHSHARE as he was speaking out against racism.

Bullshit. There was never any shred of evidence to support that idea, and it was based completely on an assumption on Nutilduhh's part, as they later admitted publicly.

Not at all. You have every much a right to include who you want as I do to assume you were fishing for reciprocal inclusions.

I mediated a dispute between Timelord and some members of the Turkish community, they added me, as a result I ended up back on the default trust list. Being the angry little ass clowns they are, they mobilized to invent several stories across multiple threads simultaneously to try to slander myself and others who had decided to add each other. Not because of mutual inclusions, but because our interaction had cultivated trust.

Liar.

This is the 3rd time I have to correct your lies on this issue. Were you just hoping I wouldn't see this, or what was your plan exactly?

That said, if you review the original thread Vod bases his accusation on, you will see I made an effort to mutually resolve a conflict between members of the Turkish community and Timelord. This lead to several interactions with several of the members of the Turkish community, of which I gained respect for because of how they handled the response. I must assume they felt the same way and this is why they added me. I didn't do anything I wasn't supposed to and these accusations are nothing but a tall tale designed to make sure I wasn't allowed to be put back on the default trust instigated by people with very long time, publicly documented animus against me.

Your timeline is off. The trust trading was happening well before your involvement with Timelord's fake flag bonanza.

The post you linked is dated September 7th, and you were playing trust games with Russian and Turkish local board posters from July through August. The only reason these users were on your radar was because they had recently been promoted to DT1, and like you, were either off or barely hanging on by 1-2 votes. Your other great rationale for adding local board posters is because somebody like Foxpup, suchmoon or myself distrust them, which according to you, "makes them interesting." Still a terrible reason to include someone in your trust list, and evidence you don't belong on DT.

Your first interaction with the Turkish community was on Sept. 7th, 2019.

- In the last week of July 2019, you added by rallier and PHI1618.
- In the week preceding 8/10, you added bobita, helping him to reach DT1 0, and he added you.
- In the week preceding 9/7, you added Kalemder, helping him to reach DT1 1, and he added you.

All of these additions took place before your first comment on the matter. It was because you had added these members to your trust list that you decided to "mediate" their dispute with Timelord, NOT the other way around.

As can be documented by your trust inclusion archive, you have a long history of adding people to your trust list as soon as they become DT1. It's obvious you are fishing for reciprocal inclusions. You're still doing it, BTW.

5/4/2020 10:16:29 PM   DaveF is selected into DT1
5/6/2020 1:56:59 AM     TECSHARE trusts DaveF

Is it obvious, or just you confirming your bias? Could it be that I am adding people who might have an actual effect on the trust system? Of course not! IT HAS to be because I am "fishing for inclusions". Pay no attention to the fact that he is still there even though he hasn't added me. You are not correcting anything, you are simply repeating your own assumptions, assumptions which I have already responded to many times.

In order to "manufacture timelines", one has to first operate on the assumption that your timeline means anything other than more assumptions on your part. You feel you have some kind of right to not only demand I explain why I included these people, but that it must be done in such a manner commensurate with your demands, or else I am "manufacturing timelines". It is not that you are making baseless assumptions, no, not at all, it is because I am "manufacturing timelines" that my replies don't meet the standards of your demands.

Not only that there were private communications as well, there is also the fact that I thought their trust lists were also positive additions.

Some of the users I added for the simple reason that I agreed with their trust list. Is this where you tell me again what is a valid reason for me deciding who I do or don't include based on your own personal preferences? Nothing you are accusing me of is anything that couldn't literally be applied to any other member actively using custom trust lists. Much like a fed uses process crimes to charge people with crimes when they have no evidence, you are using the idea that I don't meet your arbitrary standards in your interrogation as "proof" of my guilt. This is all just a game you are playing to pursue your own vendetta.

But since I admittedly can't prove that I know what you were actually thinking or what your actual motivations were, I ask that people look at the body of evidence presented and come to their own conclusions.

There is no "body of evidence". There are a string of assumptions, with accusations stacked on top of them upon which even more assumptions were based. That is not evidence, that is at best theorizing and nothing a trust rating should be based on. Once again, I manufactured nothing. You seem intent on this being some kind of deception, just like all your other assumptions here.

Some of the users I included because I thought their trust lists were beneficial, some of them I included because of their response to the advice concerning the removal of support from a frivolous flag. It is as simple as that, no "manufacturing of timelines" needed. This is purely a projection on your part designed to impugn my character to serve your own personal vendettas, and the vendettas of people like Vod.

Vultures like you saw I was achieving something positive and did a deep dive into my toilet bowl looking for any peanut fragments you could find in order to tarnish this effort that yielded positive results, because if I have a say in the default trust, I will erode the unilateral control and protection from being penalized for your own abuses that you and your friends currently enjoy. All the same people abusing negative ratings against me are all the same peanut hunters that are the most vocal in opposition to my calls for an objective standard of evidence before leaving negative ratings. This is about serving yourself, not about protecting the forum from me.

Weird, you get to make assumptions and just pretend they are facts, yet when people point out you posted your account for sale and that you can't prove it wasn't sold, of course that is over the line because... well because we can't prove it happened (even though it is a fact you tried to sell it, which would put other users at risk). You don't give a fuck about anything but attacking me with your bullshit. Facts be damned.

[Kalemder]

- In the week preceding 9/7, you added Kalemder, helping him to reach DT1 1, and he added you.

False, again.

04-09-2019 The date I was DT1. After this date, I added TECSHARE (07-09-2019). So I was not dt1 thanks to him. I read his positive judgments. And this is a personal right. I've been following before. Just like I added Loycev and Owlcatz. This is a subjective decision. I removed it after 10 days. Because I did not know about dramas. I am trying to get to know global members better.

http://loyce.club/trust/2019-09-07_Sat_06.07h/487377.html

No interaction is required to add one. This simple detail does not show that I am a bad person. So do I have to get negative? Just like a scammer?

We must talk about real injustices. Like Lauda did.

[JollyGood]

You and your buddies have manipulated the DT system for far too long. I call on all DT members to start tagging you and your merit abuse and fake trust circle participants. You and your gang should not be allowed anywhere near DT.

- In the week preceding 9/7, you added Kalemder, helping him to reach DT1 1, and he added you.

False, again.

04-09-2019 The date I was DT1. After this date, I added TECSHARE (07-09-2019). So I was not dt1 thanks to him. I read his positive judgments. And this is a personal right. I've been following before. Just like I added Loycev and Owlcatz. This is a subjective decision. I removed it after 10 days. Because I did not know about dramas. I am trying to get to know global members better.

http://loyce.club/trust/2019-09-07_Sat_06.07h/487377.html

No interaction is required to add one. This simple detail does not show that I am a bad person. So do I have to get negative? Just like a scammer?

We must talk about real injustices. Like Lauda did.

[LoyceV]

You and your buddies have manipulated the DT system for far too long. I call on all DT members to start tagging you and your merit abuse and fake trust circle participants. You and your gang should not be allowed anywhere near DT.

I don't think tagging (AKA leaving negative feedback) is the right way to handle Trust abuse, and it definitely isn't the way to handle Merit abuse. It's also not something only DT-members should care about, anyone can become DT quite easily nowadays, so anyone should exclude (AKA adding their username with a ~ in front of it to your Trust settings) anyone who they believe abuses the Trust system.

[nutildah]

(angry rant sidestepping the main issue)

None of this changes the fact that you keep putting forward a fabricated timeline. If you keep lying about the order of events, I'm going to keep correcting it.

- In the week preceding 9/7, you added Kalemder, helping him to reach DT1 1, and he added you.

False, again.

04-09-2019 The date I was DT1. After this date, I added TECSHARE (07-09-2019). So I was not dt1 thanks to him.

That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying he only added you because you had just been added to DT1. You were on DT1 with 0 net inclusions. His inclusion bumped you up to +1.

[Kalemder]

His inclusion bumped you up to +1.

So what?

I don't remember it. Isn't it natural though?
I told you the natural process. Is it natural that I get negative because of this situation?
Anyway, what am I telling to whom?

"I stopped posting for the most part about 6 months ago." Account sales announcement

Let's talk about a more suspicious situation, for example: An account owner is moving away from the forum. He wants to sell his account. Then he deletes some of his messages. And it starts to spend more time with the forum. Lauda trusts him. He also says nothing against Lauda's injustices.

I know a member who started an account farm: Lauda. Also someone who entered the DT Blacklist.

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A member who deletes some messages in 2014 2015 2016 2017. While he is writing Russian, he is a member whose writing style has changed. Now he is collecting Funds with Lauda. Why are all suspicious accounts linked in some way to Lauda? Holy cow! Is that a coinsidence?

All this is a huge power war. I'm calling out to real fair users. The best solution: Disttrust and Ignore.

[nutildah]

His inclusion bumped you up to +1.

So what?

So what? So I'm just explaining to you what I meant since you misinterpreted it the first time, that's what.

None of the rest of what you said has anything to do with this issue.

[Lauda]

A member who deletes some messages in 2014 2015 2016 2017. While he is writing Russian, he is a member whose writing style has changed. Now he is collecting Funds with Lauda. Why are all suspicious accounts linked in some way to Lauda? Holy cow! Is that a coinsidence?

All this is a huge power war. I'm calling out to real fair users. The best solution: Disttrust and Ignore.

Royse777 explicitly excludes me because he does not trust my trust-related actions. That has nothing to do with actual trustworthiness, but with how you handle trust (and what political leaning you have - this of course being truth we like to hide, especially leftists which are not willing to admit that this is the case). I am proven that I can be trusted with more than all you monkeys combined. Wake up and stop lying you Turkish degenerate.

[Kalemder]

Yeah.  A good way to dispel doubts. Since when do we authorize someone we don't trust to manage funds. I declare you are the supreme manipulator.

[marlboroza]

His inclusion bumped you up to +1.

So what?

So what? So I'm just explaining to you what I meant since you misinterpreted it the first time, that's what.

None of the rest of what you said has anything to do with this issue.

Why do you even try to discuss anything with these users, they have their opinion which no one is able to change, they are not open for any discussion, they see everything as personal attacks, they act like when someone hate the other person so much that they will close their both eyes and just agree/disagree with something which is directed towards that person and it suits their narrative(no matter whether is something true or not), and, of course, they will receive merit for it. Discussion is pointless.
I don't know, sometimes I have that strange feeling that I am reading posts from bunch of alt accounts.

[peloso]

A member who deletes some messages in 2014 2015 2016 2017. While he is writing Russian, he is a member whose writing style has changed. Now he is collecting Funds with Lauda. Why are all suspicious accounts linked in some way to Lauda? Holy cow! Is that a coinsidence?

All this is a huge power war. I'm calling out to real fair users. The best solution: Disttrust and Ignore.

Royse777 explicitly excludes me because he does not trust my trust-related actions. That has nothing to do with actual trustworthiness, but with how you handle trust (and what political leaning you have - this of course being truth we like to hide, especially leftists which are not willing to admit that this is the case). I am proven that I can be trusted with more than all you monkeys combined. Wake up and stop lying you Turkish degenerate.

you can be trusted? how you can trusted if you are a proven scammer and fucking degenerate?
you even not in dt2 ( you newer will be there )

marlboroza you can shut up

[TECSHARE]

(angry rant sidestepping the main issue)

None of this changes the fact that you keep putting forward a fabricated timeline. If you keep lying about the order of events, I'm going to keep correcting it.

- In the week preceding 9/7, you added Kalemder, helping him to reach DT1 1, and he added you.

False, again.

04-09-2019 The date I was DT1. After this date, I added TECSHARE (07-09-2019). So I was not dt1 thanks to him.

That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying he only added you because you had just been added to DT1. You were on DT1 with 0 net inclusions. His inclusion bumped you up to +1.

I am not side stepping anything, I am directly addressing your baseless accusation. Since you have chosen to attempt to make a lie truth through repetition, I am just going to start quoting some of the many responses I have already given to your argument which you refuse to actually address in lieu of repeating yourself like a parrot who desperately wants a cracker.

In order to "manufacture timelines", one has to first operate on the assumption that your timeline means anything other than more assumptions on your part. You feel you have some kind of right to not only demand I explain why I included these people, but that it must be done in such a manner commensurate with your demands, or else I am "manufacturing timelines". It is not that you are making baseless assumptions, no, not at all, it is because I am "manufacturing timelines" that my replies don't meet the standards of your demands.

Not only that there were private communications as well, there is also the fact that I thought their trust lists were also positive additions.

Some of the users I added for the simple reason that I agreed with their trust list. Is this where you tell me again what is a valid reason for me deciding who I do or don't include based on your own personal preferences? Nothing you are accusing me of is anything that couldn't literally be applied to any other member actively using custom trust lists. Much like a fed uses process crimes to charge people with crimes when they have no evidence, you are using the idea that I don't meet your arbitrary standards in your interrogation as "proof" of my guilt. This is all just a game you are playing to pursue your own vendetta.

I am not manufacturing anything. Your continual accusations are based on nothing. I was adding and removing users. Case closed! Again, this is proof of nothing other than the fact I was using the trust system like everyone else has a right to, unless of course you and the clown car disagree with those inclusions, then I am "manipulating" the trust. According to you, if I add some one, I am fishing for reciprocal inclusions, if I remove some one it was because I didn't get an inclusion or for retaliation,  if some one adds me and I add them later, I only added them because they added me.

[bonesjonesreturns]

A member who deletes some messages in 2014 2015 2016 2017. While he is writing Russian, he is a member whose writing style has changed. Now he is collecting Funds with Lauda. Why are all suspicious accounts linked in some way to Lauda? Holy cow! Is that a coinsidence?

All this is a huge power war. I'm calling out to real fair users. The best solution: Disttrust and Ignore.

Royse777 explicitly excludes me because he does not trust my trust-related actions. That has nothing to do with actual trustworthiness, but with how you handle trust (and what political leaning you have - this of course being truth we like to hide, especially leftists which are not willing to admit that this is the case). I am proven that I can be trusted with more than all you monkeys combined. Wake up and stop lying you Turkish degenerate.

Lol royce777 can come to meta and describe to theymos and gm why he feels you are not a scammer after I publically request him to review this post

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5231720.0

Then we can add

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5231720.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4895354.0

I would really like to have GM analyse the latter one. Someone who actually be able to answer what went down there 100%

Regardless of which the first link provides undeniable evidence of scamming on your part.

Anyone supporting you in full knowledge of that should be also be watched closely and removed from DT

But this latest threat you made to red tag turkish members that applied and were accepted to chipmixer is up there with using red trust to tag those presenting the truth about your history here. This is clearly racist in nature and although I feel that word has become another cancer to erode freedoms and fairness in this case it would be accurate.

Chipmixer is paying people to support and join in with your abuse of this forum.

This must stop.

Darkstar cant hide forever I think this will now evacuate beyond the point of containment. I will do my best to see that it does actually.

Darkstar via his biased and corrupt hiring process is damaging the profile of a very useful and solid project.

They want him to advertise their great and useful service not bind it to a bunch of scammer supporting greedy racist scumbags.

He must engage in debate over his selection process or I see him being given the boot actually.

Wtf does chipmixer get out of their meta board 6 sigs per page lol
Has darkstar got rocks in his head lol

He is previously okay but obviously this has gone to far. Kick scammer supporters out of bind chipmixer to their reputations that many are starting to reveal now

I dont give a fuck who promotes them but I don't want to see them sponsoring this bunch of tyrannical scum that will crush free speech and punish whistleblowers and even go full racist to determine who earns from their advertising campaign.

Better they hire varied posters that dont seek to be tyrants and nobody will care or have anything to say unless they hire people that are scammers.

Hiring such a concentration of the same crew of meri cyclers, trust inclusions and red tag abusers who openly support scammers is a recipe for disaster.

Sorry but many have noticed now the game is up.

[Kalemder]

You and your buddies have manipulated the DT system for far too long. I call on all DT members to start tagging you and your merit abuse and fake trust circle participants. You and your gang should not be allowed anywhere near DT.

I don't think tagging (AKA leaving negative feedback) is the right way to handle Trust abuse, and it definitely isn't the way to handle Merit abuse. It's also not something only DT-members should care about, anyone can become DT quite easily nowadays, so anyone should exclude (AKA adding their username with a ~ in front of it to your Trust settings) anyone who they believe abuses the Trust system.

Malicious people:
They use all their power to destroy the other. Justice, judgment, crime and punishment. They do not know these concepts. They are full of Ethnic Anger and greed.

People of this type should not have dt1 dt2 power. Because they cannot produce reliable judgment. You need to add these unfair people to your distrust list.  I suggest everyone to do this. The fair approach requires this. I'm not sure how to translate.  But there is an important proverb.

"Anyone who does not react to an injustice is a mute demon" or
"He who keeps silent in the face of injustice is a mute devil" - Prophet Muhammad

[AB de Royse777]

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A member who deletes some messages in 2014 2015 2016 2017. While he is writing Russian, he is a member whose writing style has changed. Now he is collecting Funds with Lauda. Why are all suspicious accounts linked in some way to Lauda? Holy cow! Is that a coinsidence?

All this is a huge power war. I'm calling out to real fair users. The best solution: Disttrust and Ignore.

While he is writing Russian, he is a member whose writing style has changed.

Kalemder,
2014 to 2020, 6 long years in between. It's very normal that one will have change in their life in many ways. Writing style is just a part of the process. Do you think the lifestyle, the knowledge I have now about the forum, bitcoin, crypto are the same as I have years ago? No.

Now he is collecting Funds with Lauda. Why are all suspicious accounts linked in some way to Lauda? Holy cow! Is that a coinsidence?

There are no coincidence buddy. This Project COVID-19 has created all these heat when Lauda agreed to join with me. but not even 10 days gone, I have explained it in another thread that how I had her in my mind and requested her to join me to help in this project.

Lauda was not my first choice.

When I started the Covid-19 project, I did not have anyone in mind to have with me as governing body. The response from some users were impressive. At some point user aliashraf gave me some tips, some valid insights and then I figured we need more people so that we can form a team. There will be a governing body who will ensure that things are not going to exploit by eploiters. Following the thoughts, I then PMed few trusted users (if they want then they can confirm it in here) but I did not get many responses. Two of them told me that they are busy, so they can not give much time. When I was not receiving anymore responses, I then had Lauda in mind. I have observed her in the forum from long time and I had this feeling that she will come forward. I sent her request to join me and after one day I got her response that she is watching it and in the next day she confirmed that she will work with me. This is how she got involved. And honestly speaking, I am happy that we made a team. There are other users too who are working hard to make this project successful for the users who are in need. I am happy for everyone who are with us.

There are no doubt that I trust Lauda with money, her intentions are clear that she cares this community. Her unconditional time to this forum, fights against scams, against frauds, against wrongdoings speak for her and I think no one can deny it.

But I do not agree with her when she sends out red trust so easily to others. Few days ago in Telegram I told her why she is in my distrust list. I felt this urge to explain to her the reason because I was feeling bad about it. I have discovered a different Lauda while we are working together in this project. Anyway, I told her the reason and also told her that she has to earn it from me and hope she does and someday I remove her from my distrust list. But I am not seeing this is going to happen very soon.

Kalemder, it's clear that you do not like Lauda, not only you but there are hundreds of users who are against Lauda, that's something in between you guys and Lauda but you can not deny the work we both are doing to support the community, and we are doing very well.

See so far what we have achieved in this short period of time:
1. Sent hygiene materials for 100 people in some part of the world where people do not have it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5246208.msg54409412#msg54409412
2. Sent supply to 20 families in Nigeria : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5246208.msg54432150#msg54432150
There are more to come on our way.
We are trying our best to keep everything transparent but still if you or anyone has any question about any wrong doing then let us know.
You have everything open in the blockchain: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/3Covid19s5zLNzQHGGLBeqkizwApUb19bj
You have everything open in this spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/112dk74xnUlgMHSREP4Ny0kqwrRSEUSAHrGjMJVwXQfY/edit?usp=sharing

Cheers,

PS: From now on, I do not think I will be giving any response to any drama with Lauda and me being in this project together (how we ended up, why she is in my distrust list, why I trusted her to team up etc etc).

However, if anyone has any question about the funds moving in and moving out then I will be more than happy to answer anyone (I am pretty sure Lauda will be too)
Stay safe everyone.

[TECSHARE]

~

This is a very old argument people always default to when people abuse the trust system around here. Doing good things doesn't erase doing bad things. Furthermore their participation in your project has nothing to do with their abuse of the trust system. Lauda has a habit of manipulating people and subverting them into doing their bidding via hook or crook. Don't fall into that trap, I assure you that is what they are attempting to do with you here.

[AB de Royse777]

This is a very old argument people always default to when people abuse the trust system around here. Doing good things doesn't erase doing bad things. Furthermore their participation in your project has nothing to do with their abuse of the trust system. Lauda has a habit of manipulating people and subverting them into doing their bidding via hook or crook. Don't fall into that trap, I assure you that is what they are attempting to do with you here.

Agree with you, it does not erase the harsh feedback (if this is the bad you meant) she left for others and this is why she is still in my distrust list. Isn't it clear that my trust rating reflects my judgement of the feedback she left? Of course this project has nothing to do with that and this is why we are working together.

If you do not agree with someone's feedback leaving judgements then just distrust them. The current DT voting allows you to do that.

Bud look, there is a reason that you and others are in my trust list on the other hand Lauda and some others are in my distrust list.


No explanation needed here, I guess?

I am a grown up man, able to make my own decisions, this will be very insulting for me, a defeat of my own self - if someone else comes in my life and starts manipulating me. Not happening bud. I am not that weak character. The day I will lose my interest on bitcoin, I will not care about anything in here.

[bonesjonesreturns]

This is a very old argument people always default to when people abuse the trust system around here. Doing good things doesn't erase doing bad things. Furthermore their participation in your project has nothing to do with their abuse of the trust system. Lauda has a habit of manipulating people and subverting them into doing their bidding via hook or crook. Don't fall into that trap, I assure you that is what they are attempting to do with you here.

Agree with you, it does not erase the harsh feedback (if this is the bad you meant) she left for others and this is why she is still in my distrust list. Isn't it clear that my trust rating reflects my judgement of the feedback she left? Of course this project has nothing to do with that and this is why we are working together.

If you do not agree with someone's feedback leaving judgements then just distrust them. The current DT voting allows you to do that.

Bud look, there is a reason that you and others are in my trust list on the other hand Lauda and some others are in my distrust list.


No explanation needed here, I guess?

I am a grown up man, able to make my own decisions, this will be very insulting for me, a defeat of my own self - if someone else comes in my life and starts manipulating me. Not happening bud. I am not that weak character. The day I will lose my interest on bitcoin, I will not care about anything in here.

The statements you've made in the proceeding post are simply not inline with the conclusive proof of lauda scamming that anyone can view.

No, sadly it doesn't matter at all if you bust some other scammers, it does not give you a license to scam others, extort others or trust abuse others to silence them telling the truth about your scamming. I would actually like to see evidence that lauda has ever busted a large scam. I can show you some he has pushed and lied to promote that is for sure.

So you need to accept that. I wont be hyper critical since your trust list appears respectable from what I can see.

However, I guess if the covid 19 fund is entirely transparent  with a complete ledger then the scammer lauda can do no real damage.
If someone could see an angle for lauda to exploit it would be in the forums best interest to mention it frequently  until that is no longer possible.

Now to get back on topic this thread is entirely bogus since the claims and concerns voiced in the original thread are completely founded and justified considering that lauda openly threatened to red tag the Turkish members If they applied and were accepted to chipmixer.

The other points that have been made on that thread are still there completely robust with zero chance of debunking them even though the scammer supporting crew are there plaster faux rebuttals with tons of merit whilst merit starving the posts that make the strong and accurate points that are providing the reader with accurate and truthful information.

That form of merit cycling on based of bogus politically biased garbage that attempts only to protect the status quo the chipmixer sponsored scammer supporters benefit from.

You simply can not twist away from the truth the observable independently verifiable  evidence provides.

Lauda the scammer is only part of the problem. He is a product of the broken system and a bunch of greedy self serving scum that simply care about making money or being popular than what is best for the forum.

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This is a very old argument people always default to when people abuse the trust system around here. Doing good things doesn't erase doing bad things. Furthermore their participation in your project has nothing to do with their abuse of the trust system. Lauda has a habit of manipulating people and subverting them into doing their bidding via hook or crook. Don't fall into that trap, I assure you that is what they are attempting to do with you here.

Agree with you, it does not erase the harsh feedback (if this is the bad you meant) she left for others and this is why she is still in my distrust list. Isn't it clear that my trust rating reflects my judgement of the feedback she left? Of course this project has nothing to do with that and this is why we are working together.

If you do not agree with someone's feedback leaving judgements then just distrust them. The current DT voting allows you to do that.

Bud look, there is a reason that you and others are in my trust list on the other hand Lauda and some others are in my distrust list.


No explanation needed here, I guess?

I am a grown up man, able to make my own decisions, this will be very insulting for me, a defeat of my own self - if someone else comes in my life and starts manipulating me. Not happening bud. I am not that weak character. The day I will lose my interest on bitcoin, I will not care about anything in here.

So far you seem to be making your own choices, but I think you underestimate the lengths this person will go to in order to subvert the people and the systems around here to get control. I am not judging your character, simply giving you a friendly warning. Don't give them any opening to exploit you, because they will at the drop of a hat.