🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread

[ralle14]

Later for the grand finals, i'm taking ENCE +1.5 the handicap is just too good even though Faze got the harder matchup on their way through this finals I think it'll be a close one given their last meeting ended up going through all three maps.

It was close on the 2nd map though, Nigma owned the game but somehow Entity turned it all around making the game 2-0

Somewhat close but unfortunate that they couldn't close out the game in time and capitalize on the lead they gained during the mid game and when Entity manage to stall the game even further it just spelled trouble for them as their composition started falling off during the late game.

Im not sure about Secret but Nigma is going down to 2nd division for real because they just lost another game today. Losing 5 games in a row and their next two games will be Secret and Liquid so yeah I honestly dont think they can win. This is probably the worst result ever for those 4 original Nigma players ever since their days together in Liquid

I agree there's no way Team Secret would get relegated, right now they're at the bottom of the standings just above Team Nigma but they have one of the easier matchups as they'll be playing against Team Nigma and Entity.

Also, it felt like Team Nigma is only playing just to secure the money at this point since their performance really fell off even though they did well during that one lan tournament.

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[Trofo]

I agree there's no way Team Secret would get relegated, right now they're at the bottom of the standings just above Team Nigma but they have one of the easier matchups as they'll be playing against Team Nigma and Entity.

Also, it felt like Team Nigma is only playing just to secure the money at this point since their performance really fell off even though they did well during that one lan tournament.

New teams on the block? I lost a couple of tickets on Secret and Nigma this season since I can't believe they are continuing with performances that bad. I mean it is team Secret, one of the staples of DOTA scene in last couple of years I am following the sport. Mental note to myself: give much more thought to current form and meta than team names when betting on eSports

[STT]

i also lost my bet, didn't expect the day of clean 2-0's
Furia tho were 13-5 in map1 and 13-8 in map2 and ended up losing both,

wow you could not make this up.    Both right and wrong on this bet and I dont doubt any of this for a second because I've seen it before.   Its almost part of the game this happens,  a team in the lead will give their opponent a chance to recover.  Its like they are bored with life, they loosen their grip and let go and thats it; cant recover losing the map, losing the match.   Its really incredible, Furia is a momentum team I can see that.   Fallen had the discipline otherwise but I think its mostly true of Brazilian teams
   Liquid choke meta, the Hiko team could have won the major but were really flawed and this effect was in play I think had to be.  Its so common its a meme.   Ancient history now, makes me shiver  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onW4-WTNDx8


Just betting ENCE win 1 map is 3.4x   odds, seems quite good   Smooya is playing again vs endpoint (bo5).  His team didnt do well enough or win easily enough for me to have immense confidence but its possible they can win.   I think Faze win and a small multi bet gives 7x odds cant complain about that.   If I bet lots of maps happens in both matches I get 12x odds   for a random fun bet only.   Im not generally happy when 2-0 type outcomes occur, I think CS in general prefers otherwise

[tomahawk9]

G2 is back!! Next stop: MSI,,  be afraid, T1, be very afraid  lmao

now watching Ence v FaZe and it's a much closer game series than i anticipated... could easily go to the last map

[sunsilk]

Impressed to see Gladiators are doing it on their rankings and at the top currently.

Two more games for most of the teams and I think Team Secret can still recover if the other teams(Brame & Entity) on their top will get a lose and they'll win with their remaining matches.

Whilst for Nigma, I don't think that they'll make it and they'll be going now to division 2.

[ralle14]

Impressed to see Gladiators are doing it on their rankings and at the top currently.

Gladiators have one of the easier schedules but they didn't look good on their last series against OG it'll be interesting to see if they can still hold their spot in the last two weeks of the tournament.

Also with the current standings, it's kind of crazy how there are so many potential tiebreakers from the top spot until the second relegation spot.

G2 is back!!

Crazy 12-0 run from G2, after that first map vs Rogue it already felt like the series is decided.

New teams on the block? I lost a couple of tickets on Secret and Nigma this season since I can't believe they are continuing with performances that bad. I mean it is team Secret, one of the staples of DOTA scene in last couple of years I am following the sport. Mental note to myself: give much more thought to current form and meta than team names when betting on eSports

Yup and lots of new players on the rise as well, I also got burned on Secret a couple of times but I might take them against Entity later this week as i'm surprised that the bookies have them as an underdog.

[sunsilk]

Impressed to see Gladiators are doing it on their rankings and at the top currently.

Gladiators have one of the easier schedules but they didn't look good on their last series against OG it'll be interesting to see if they can still hold their spot in the last two weeks of the tournament.

Also with the current standings, it's kind of crazy how there are so many potential tiebreakers from the top spot until the second relegation spot.

Yeah, 2 consecutive lose for them but still, that record didn't pull them down from the rankings. Three heroes were used to them again for those two games and they've never learned from that.

OG did well and made it look like easy for them for both games. Two more series for Gladiators and I think whether they lose both of the series, they are still in for the playoffs.

[tomahawk9]

G2 is back!!

Crazy 12-0 run from G2, after that first map vs Rogue it already felt like the series is decided.

yeah some T1 vibes from that small unbeaten run. Hopefully we'll get a T1 v G2 in MSI, but the chineses might ruin the party

talking about chinese, finally the LPL is back, and i'm gonna go with TES to beat V5 tomorrow, not the smartest pick, but I don't like V5   
no value in the DPC WEU, imo,, unless you fancy a Liquid 2-0 vs. Nigma

[ralle14]

Hopefully we'll get a T1 v G2 in MSI, but the chineses might ruin the party

talking about chinese, finally the LPL is back, and i'm gonna go with TES to beat V5 tomorrow, not the smartest pick, but I don't like V5   
no value in the DPC WEU, imo,, unless you fancy a Liquid 2-0 vs. Nigma

Hopefully, we're lucky enough to get a matchup during the groups.

I kind of understand it, I also don't like V5 as I still remember they have some issues in the laning phase but their decision making during team fights is crazy though. Also, it's tough to go against Rookie so i'll ride with V5 and maybe include the Liquid series winner for even odds.

[dothebeats]

Impressed to see Gladiators are doing it on their rankings and at the top currently.

Two more games for most of the teams and I think Team Secret can still recover if the other teams(Brame & Entity) on their top will get a lose and they'll win with their remaining matches.

Whilst for Nigma, I don't think that they'll make it and they'll be going now to division 2.

Nigma is done for in this current run. They don't appear to be ready for what's coming and it shows on how they handle team fights, drafts, and basically every decision-making in the game. Miracle, Gh, and MC is being held back by poor performances of Kuroky and iLTW combined. Hopefully they pull through on div 2, but them losing to Brame in such a horrible manner is a testament that they can't really hold themselves against new teams that claimed the spot for EU's prime.

[arallmuus]

Nigma is done for in this current run.

I just did the calculation and found out that Nigma still has a tiny chances to stay on the 1st division. Nigma need to win the last two games and both Entity as well as Brame need to lose their last two games so all those 3 teams will be getting the same point thus there will be tiebreaker for it.

Aside from that, Nigma seems to be taking in FATA as stand-in to replace ILTW but Im not sure if FATA is going to play on their next game against Liquid but yeah it seems four of them are still going to stick together even after their lame results

[sunsilk]

Impressed to see Gladiators are doing it on their rankings and at the top currently.

Two more games for most of the teams and I think Team Secret can still recover if the other teams(Brame & Entity) on their top will get a lose and they'll win with their remaining matches.

Whilst for Nigma, I don't think that they'll make it and they'll be going now to division 2.

Nigma is done for in this current run. They don't appear to be ready for what's coming and it shows on how they handle team fights, drafts, and basically every decision-making in the game. Miracle, Gh, and MC is being held back by poor performances of Kuroky and iLTW combined. Hopefully they pull through on div 2, but them losing to Brame in such a horrible manner is a testament that they can't really hold themselves against new teams that claimed the spot for EU's prime.

Yeah.

Even they win all the remaining games for the two series that they have. There's no way that they can cope up with all of the losses that they've made. Well, they've lost their first and second match against Liquid with Fata as standin for ILTW.

Looking at the teams on the division 2, it's going to be a tough retrieval for them. They will be the most experienced on that division but those teams that are in there are also good teams. I'm not just familiar with two teams, IVY and Winter Bear.

Nigma still has a chance to get back to div 1 after all, as two teams will be taken from div 2 to div 1.

[dimonstration]

Nigma is confirmed relegated from upper division after there loss. It’s such a waste for Miracle to still play on this team while he has the capacity to play on top tier team. His talent is wasted on Nigma to be honest. Kuro needs to step down or level up there gameplay. I believe the carry is not the only problem but the consistent of out drafts made by Kuro or Rmn whoever made the call on there games. It’s not the end for them though, they can still climb back to UD in no time. I’m expecting Secret to follow. 

[Trofo]

Nigma is confirmed relegated from upper division after there loss. It’s such a waste for Miracle to still play on this team while he has the capacity to play on top tier team. His talent is wasted on Nigma to be honest. Kuro needs to step down or level up there gameplay. I believe the carry is not the only problem but the consistent of out drafts made by Kuro or Rmn whoever made the call on there games. It’s not the end for them though, they can still climb back to UD in no time. I’m expecting Secret to follow. 

Watched the game since I had a bet on liquid 2:0 and it passed very easy. Nigma did not look competitive in any stage of the match, they have really fallen low this season.

Now keeping an eye on OG game since I have them to win 2:0 as well. Seems like we have a lot of 2:0 games lately, trying to profit from it.

[dothebeats]

Now keeping an eye on OG game since I have them to win 2:0 as well. Seems like we have a lot of 2:0 games lately, trying to profit from it.

OG just won 2-0 against Brame, something I'm not really surprised about with how well everyone is performing in their last few series. ATF seems to be more disciplined despite keeping that early aggressiveness in his games. As opposed to him diving on supports that absolutely has no value whatsoever on their past few games. He's changed; for the better, and it's certainly helping the team a lot.

Looking at the teams on the division 2, it's going to be a tough retrieval for them. They will be the most experienced on that division but those teams that are in there are also good teams. I'm not just familiar with two teams, IVY and Winter Bear.

Nigma still has a chance to get back to div 1 after all, as two teams will be taken from div 2 to div 1.

Never hears of those two teams as well, and their players are not entirely known in the EU scene. But as Wings gaming taught us in TI6, even the relatively unknown players can take on even the most experienced teams in Dota, given enough exposure and matches with them.

[ralle14]

That TES vs V5 series was brutal, it felt like V5 was on autopilot mode after they went 2-0 against TES then the momentum shift took over in the next 3 maps.

On the Dota side, after Fata stand in for ILTW it just made things worse for Team Nigma i'm surprised that bookies still had Team Liquid at 1.80 for the 2-0 sweep.

Entity vs Secret will be an interesting one later today, even if Team Secret loses this one they still have another easy matchup on the last series and then force a likely tiebreaker but if Entity loses it's probably over for them since they'll be facing OG on their last series.

[tomahawk9]

That TES vs V5 series was brutal, it felt like V5 was on autopilot mode after they went 2-0 against TES then the momentum shift took over in the next 3 maps.

never doubted the best duo in the lpl jackeylove & knight


i didn't grab RNG ml x1.76 yesterday cos i was waiting for the daily boost to go online, and before you know it, it's down to 1.66 today so i skipped it... it's 2-2 now and we could have another reverse sweep. RNG with all the momentum on their favor might win this series,, but at this point it's not worth risking any money

[Trofo]

Secret finally won one game and returned some of the money I squandered on them in earlier matches. I was a bit afraid for the bet when they lost second map but 3rd map was a stomp and it never was in doubt.

Any LOL tips for tomorrow guys, my early tickets are quite empty lately and I could use a bit of a boost.

[sunsilk]

Looking at the teams on the division 2, it's going to be a tough retrieval for them. They will be the most experienced on that division but those teams that are in there are also good teams. I'm not just familiar with two teams, IVY and Winter Bear.

Nigma still has a chance to get back to div 1 after all, as two teams will be taken from div 2 to div 1.

Never hears of those two teams as well, and their players are not entirely known in the EU scene. But as Wings gaming taught us in TI6, even the relatively unknown players can take on even the most experienced teams in Dota, given enough exposure and matches with them.

Yeah.

You made me remember that.

It's not about who's known and not but it's about who's going to be strong in their division. Well, who knows if those new teams and players are going to beat most of them.

But still, I think it will be an easy place for Nigma to get back to div 1.

[dothebeats]

But still, I think it will be an easy place for Nigma to get back to div 1.

This one I doubt heavily. They'd need to reevaluate and reflect on things that they did so wrong in Div 1. Imagine getting beat by teams whose playstyle you know so hard and whose players you always encounter in pubs, that means there is a problem with the way they play and the way they take on these types of games. Removing iLTW completely and placing Kuroky as a coach instead of a player is a start, but I guess that's one move they won't really do because iLTW is a 'friend' and Kuroky is the 'boss' they don't have the balls to speak up against, even if the latter's game and performance is what drags them on games that matter.