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June 19, 2020, 09:59:30 AM
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Such an approach will increase the entertainment degree from watching games, but it will all be a fiction.
Today we will watch football with virtual fans, and tomorrow the players themselves may become virtual.

I don’t know whether this is good or bad, but I prefer to see things as they are.
If the world has changed, then we need to learn to live in it and adapt, and not try to cling to the old foundations.
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June 19, 2020, 10:45:10 AM
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Such an approach will increase the entertainment degree from watching games, but it will all be a fiction.
Today we will watch football with virtual fans, and tomorrow the players themselves may become virtual.

I don’t know whether this is good or bad, but I prefer to see things as they are.
If the world has changed, then we need to learn to live in it and adapt, and not try to cling to the old foundations.

this doesnt increase the entertainment degree because all we can hear is fake sounds and not the sound from a real person but people are already contented about it than nothing at all , atleast games are being resumed .

  its possible that they can also replace the player from real to virtual , like what we saw on online gambling but nothing beats the real life  gambling/sports.
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June 19, 2020, 10:51:45 AM
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this doesnt increase the entertainment degree because all we can hear is fake sounds and not the sound from a real person 
In fact it increases the entertainment degree noticeably. Countless studies have been carried out, especially regarding the artificial laughter in various sitcoms (the so-called laugh tracks). These studies conclude that the viewer is much better entertained when an artificial atmosphere is created in which he or she feels comfortable:
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I haven't seen the game with the artificial fan chants, but I can well imagine that it has the same effect there as well. You can see that already when you play FIFA on the XBox. The games are only half as thrilling when you turn off the sound, the fan chants contribute a lot to the fact that you have more fun.

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June 19, 2020, 11:13:28 AM
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I haven't seen the game with the artificial fan chants, but I can well imagine that it has the same effect there as well. You can see that already when you play FIFA on the XBox. The games are only half as thrilling when you turn off the sound, the fan chants contribute a lot to the fact that you have more fun.

They could probably sell some devices to the real fans and let them chant live from their homes while playing those sound on the stadium. Or say make the reception on both sides while the viewers enjoy the footage and sound with close angle camera from their TV, the players would enjoy the chants are cries of real fans according to their moves.


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June 25, 2020, 06:08:21 AM
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In my opinion, that can make the players feel confused and can not focus on the games.
Instead of using virtual fans in the stands, the sports events promoter needs to think about how the game can run without any problem, and they should think about taking care of the player, the staff, and themselves.
So that will be not for this time, but maybe in the future, if the situations are not like this, the sports event can invite the audience with a limited number.
I think that will better in these situations so that the player can stay focus on the game without worry with the audience.

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June 25, 2020, 09:55:08 AM
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Such an approach will increase the entertainment degree from watching games, but it will all be a fiction.
Today we will watch football with virtual fans, and tomorrow the players themselves may become virtual.

I don’t know whether this is good or bad, but I prefer to see things as they are.
If the world has changed, then we need to learn to live in it and adapt, and not try to cling to the old foundations.

There is really nothing old fashion about going outside once in awhile with your community and family members to socialize, compete or exercise together in the right/proper way... It's actually a good thing. It's also a good thing to gather safely and be entertained by competiting people or teams in good/safe games or sports.
Hopefully this and other similar stuff don't lead to people getting forced to live fake reality disguised as the Real Things in the name of safety/peace even when there are good/safe alternatives that don't rely on the restriction of people in extreme manner.
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In my opinion, that can make the players feel confused and can not focus on the games.
Instead of using virtual fans in the stands, the sports events promoter needs to think about how the game can run without any problem, and they should think about taking care of the player, the staff, and themselves.
So that will be not for this time, but maybe in the future, if the situations are not like this, the sports event can invite the audience with a limited number.
I think that will better in these situations so that the player can stay focus on the game without worry with the audience.
As a temporary replacement it might work for a while, but in the long process promoters and organizations who are handling each events should think for much better ideas, they can't risk the lives of people but with better and responsible protocols they can allow half of the fans to attend implementing all the safety measures that the government are requiring them.
It's still best if you are hearing real people cheering the teams and not just devices that produce fake actions,.

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June 25, 2020, 12:14:47 PM
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In my opinion, that can make the players feel confused and can not focus on the games.
Instead of using virtual fans in the stands, the sports events promoter needs to think about how the game can run without any problem, and they should think about taking care of the player, the staff, and themselves.
So that will be not for this time, but maybe in the future, if the situations are not like this, the sports event can invite the audience with a limited number.
I think that will better in these situations so that the player can stay focus on the game without worry with the audience.
As a temporary replacement it might work for a while, but in the long process promoters and organizations who are handling each events should think for much better ideas, they can't risk the lives of people but with better and responsible protocols they can allow half of the fans to attend implementing all the safety measures that the government are requiring them.
It's still best if you are hearing real people cheering the teams and not just devices that produce fake actions,.

I don't think it will work even on the first try. the crowd noise itself is not the one that boosts the player's morale it is the presence of the crowd that supports them through the game.

but in the long process promoters and organizations who are handling each events should think for much better ideas, they can't risk the lives of people but with better and responsible protocols they can allow half of the fans to attend implementing all the safety measures that the government are requiring them.
the problem I see here is not the promoter or organizers preparing enough guidelines or protocols but the audience who will watch the game. we know that there are a lot of entitled people who thinks that rules doesn't apply to them and doesn't care if they endangered someone else's lives. if it was up to me I'd cancel the game until a vaccine is discovered.

It's still best if you are hearing real people cheering the teams and not just devices that produce fake actions,.
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June 25, 2020, 12:16:53 PM
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In my opinion, that can make the players feel confused and can not focus on the games.
Instead of using virtual fans in the stands, the sports events promoter needs to think about how the game can run without any problem, and they should think about taking care of the player, the staff, and themselves.
So that will be not for this time, but maybe in the future, if the situations are not like this, the sports event can invite the audience with a limited number.
I think that will better in these situations so that the player can stay focus on the game without worry with the audience.
As a temporary replacement it might work for a while, but in the long process promoters and organizations who are handling each events should think for much better ideas, they can't risk the lives of people but with better and responsible protocols they can allow half of the fans to attend implementing all the safety measures that the government are requiring them.
It's still best if you are hearing real people cheering the teams and not just devices that produce fake actions,.

Seems that new reality has come and I don't like it.
This might be temporary solution, yes, but sport events and matches without fans and audience make no sense. I don't think that sport players are happy with virtual fans.
I know that some safety measures must be implemented because of pandemic but still we need to continue living somehow and if everything becomes virtual and on the screen only that isn't a good direction.

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June 25, 2020, 01:54:30 PM
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It's not a bad idea since fans were all used with loud cheering and crowds during games. They can maximize the use of technology with these virtual fans. Also, it's understandable that fans will have a hard time adjusting to watching games without the crowd noise so it may be a good idea as an alternative. It would be better if those cheering will fit on what's happening in the game. I mean if it's a live game, it will be hard to adjust the noise. Fans can decide if it's good or not maybe after trying including the virtual crowd.

It's really one of the downsides of this pandemic that we really have to deal with and adjust almost on everything. I wonder how long should we live like this?
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June 25, 2020, 02:18:09 PM
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Seems that new reality has come and I don't like it.
This might be temporary solution, yes, but sport events and matches without fans and audience make no sense. I don't think that sport players are happy with virtual fans.
It ain't about personal feelings or what, they may not like it but I think it is necessary to make the game somehow alive. It is kind of dead to watch games without crowd though, might be no sense but it is far away better than having nothing. Besides it is the only compelling solution for such problem so far  Grin.

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It's really one of the downsides of this pandemic that we really have to deal with and adjust almost on everything. I wonder how long should we live like this?
Won't be that long if vaccines have been introduced to the market now  Wink.
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June 25, 2020, 02:36:08 PM
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In my opinion, that can make the players feel confused and can not focus on the games.
Instead of using virtual fans in the stands, the sports events promoter needs to think about how the game can run without any problem, and they should think about taking care of the player, the staff, and themselves.
So that will be not for this time, but maybe in the future, if the situations are not like this, the sports event can invite the audience with a limited number.
I think that will better in these situations so that the player can stay focus on the game without worry with the audience.
That's the best that they can think for now until the covid19 is gone forever. They could still earn from the broadcast and gain more advertisers and sponsors through it. Settling the tickets and forgetting it as an additional revenue per event.
They could earn more and adjust the rates for their advertisers without compromising the safety of their players. I don't see any problem making  an appearance of their fans in the form of virtual.

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June 25, 2020, 02:48:59 PM
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It's really one of the downsides of this pandemic that we really have to deal with and adjust almost on everything. I wonder how long should we live like this?

Who knows, maybe it's the new normal now?  Sad

But honestly, watching sports in empty stadiums without any crowds cheering seems a bit sad for me. In comedy movies it's normal to add laughters, why not for sports? It definitely increases the excitments.

It's same with so many people watching reactions online. They don't only want to watch the content but also some background noises of normal people.

I think it's a good idea. Atleast until the stadiums are sold out again and real fans are back.
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June 25, 2020, 03:30:24 PM
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So far this is the best alternative they can use to minimize the risk of getting infected by the CoVid-19 virus. We just need to think about it as a lip-sync performance by a popular singer because of certain circumstances that he can no longer sing but still can move his lips. anyway, this is better than nothing because playing without some fans to cheer you on has some negative impact on both teams. because they have been playing with lots of people all around them cheering for them and suddenly there's no one to see. that's some new atmosphere that will likely affect their performance in the game.
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June 25, 2020, 04:29:43 PM
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It's not that bad idea, it actually helps to make the game more realistic and enjoyable rather than playing only with the coaches or the announcers. Besides, this is just a temporary solution that they can think of since the vaccine is not out yet. Players may not expecting this new normal but what could they do? They would either stay at home and let their hard work training gone to waste or play the game and enjoy the new normal.

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June 26, 2020, 02:10:56 AM
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I don't think it will work even on the first try. the crowd noise itself is not the one that boosts the player's morale it is the presence of the crowd that supports them through the game.
I know right! It's like the official tournament games are just practice games, hell, even practice games are a lot better since players could play around so that they can enjoy playing. Here, the competition could be said to be intense and serious, and really, this drains the concentration of the players more than we could ever understand. The cheers of the crowds is one of the boost factors and really, it isn't easy for a player to adjust their mindset with the current disappearance of the cheering of the viewers. Sure, Virtual Noise may add immersion to the experience of other people watching the scene, but what about the players? It's like they're turning this into a commercial aspect to sell, and not to showcase the game.

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June 26, 2020, 02:55:58 AM
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I don't think it will work even on the first try. the crowd noise itself is not the one that boosts the player's morale it is the presence of the crowd that supports them through the game.
I know right! It's like the official tournament games are just practice games, hell, even practice games are a lot better since players could play around so that they can enjoy playing. Here, the competition could be said to be intense and serious, and really, this drains the concentration of the players more than we could ever understand. The cheers of the crowds is one of the boost factors and really, it isn't easy for a player to adjust their mindset with the current disappearance of the cheering of the viewers. Sure, Virtual Noise may add immersion to the experience of other people watching the scene, but what about the players? It's like they're turning this into a commercial aspect to sell, and not to showcase the game.

This is now the age of a new normal for every player, and this needs adjustments at first. If we hear it virtual crowd, that's not for physical but works through technology. For those players who played the sports game, they should maintain a good focus in order to create sustainable mindset to do their task successfully for the game.
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June 26, 2020, 03:31:20 AM
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In my opinion, that can make the players feel confused and can not focus on the games.
Instead of using virtual fans in the stands, the sports events promoter needs to think about how the game can run without any problem, and they should think about taking care of the player, the staff, and themselves.
So that will be not for this time, but maybe in the future, if the situations are not like this, the sports event can invite the audience with a limited number.
I think that will better in these situations so that the player can stay focus on the game without worry with the audience.
As a temporary replacement it might work for a while, but in the long process promoters and organizations who are handling each events should think for much better ideas, they can't risk the lives of people but with better and responsible protocols they can allow half of the fans to attend implementing all the safety measures that the government are requiring them.
It's still best if you are hearing real people cheering the teams and not just devices that produce fake actions,.

Seems that new reality has come and I don't like it.
Even if how much we disagreed on this or we hated yet this is the only option every game operator must have to at least the online viewer will enjoy because it is more boring if there are no cheering(even if its fake.)

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This might be temporary solution, yes, but sport events and matches without fans and audience make no sense.
exactly this is temporary.and when the pandemic ends?this will be gone.

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I don't think that sport players are happy with virtual fans.

Nothing is more happier seeing your friends,family members int he crowd shouting for you while in a match .
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June 26, 2020, 06:17:27 AM
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As a temporary replacement it might work for a while, but in the long process promoters and organizations who are handling each events should think for much better ideas, they can't risk the lives of people but with better and responsible protocols they can allow half of the fans to attend implementing all the safety measures that the government are requiring them.
It's still best if you are hearing real people cheering the teams and not just devices that produce fake actions,.
Even the cheering for people is not too many, but it can satisfying the players and the teams because they see a real sound from the people.
Maybe the replacement is just for testing before they invite the real people to come to the stadium, and they will want to see how good the result.
If they think that all of the protocol procedures is work fine, they will try to invite a limited number of people, and they use social distancing protocols in every chair.

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That's the best that they can think for now until the covid19 is gone forever. They could still earn from the broadcast and gain more advertisers and sponsors through it. Settling the tickets and forgetting it as an additional revenue per event.
They could earn more and adjust the rates for their advertisers without compromising the safety of their players. I don't see any problem making  an appearance of their fans in the form of virtual.
I am afraid that Covid-19 will be with us for a while until the scientist can discover the vaccine.
The important thing here is how the player can give the best performance during the pandemic, and how the sports promoters can get the revenue again after they stop the event.
It is no problem to make an appearance from the virtual audience, but that will need time to set it up while the event will start soon, so hopefully, the setting will be finished at the right time.

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June 26, 2020, 06:36:01 AM
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this doesnt increase the entertainment degree because all we can hear is fake sounds and not the sound from a real person but people are already contented about it than nothing at all , atleast games are being resumed .

  its possible that they can also replace the player from real to virtual , like what we saw on online gambling but nothing beats the real life  gambling/sports.
Fake laughs have been used at standup comedy shows for a long time. In fact, Britain Got Talent or any other "Got Talent" shows use them too. The reason is that the audience doesn't actually laugh or cheer as much as they appear to be on TV. See Disney Channel or the Saturday Night quarantine episodes where there has been no audience really in the show.

They're probably going to use similar sounds FIFA uses in their games though, because they're very realistic and quite hard to distinguish from the real thing. It's kinda weird to have a completely fake one, but rather than having complete silence it's much better. It might help a lot if the camera will be kept as off-spectators as possible until they get to "pack" the stadiums with audience though.
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