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June 26, 2020, 07:12:25 AM
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the problem I see here is not the promoter or organizers preparing enough guidelines or protocols but the audience who will watch the game. we know that there are a lot of entitled people who thinks that rules doesn't apply to them and doesn't care if they endangered someone else's lives. if it was up to me I'd cancel the game until a vaccine is discovered.



You think it's a good idea to have the stadiums empty until a cure or vaccine is discovered?

Well, I think the focus should be how to get people to visit such places without violating a well researched and effective safety guideline. The policy makers should be working within the guidelines and not taking unnecessary extreme measures. If a good guideline is strictly followed, people will still be able to gather safely.

By the way, the good thing about many stadiums is that they are not totally enclosed. That will allow for fresh air and help limit the spread of the disease.
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June 26, 2020, 03:36:32 PM
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That's the best that they can think for now until the covid19 is gone forever. They could still earn from the broadcast and gain more advertisers and sponsors through it. Settling the tickets and forgetting it as an additional revenue per event.
They could earn more and adjust the rates for their advertisers without compromising the safety of their players. I don't see any problem making  an appearance of their fans in the form of virtual.
I am afraid that Covid-19 will be with us for a while until the scientist can discover the vaccine.
The important thing here is how the player can give the best performance during the pandemic, and how the sports promoters can get the revenue again after they stop the event.
It is no problem to make an appearance from the virtual audience, but that will need time to set it up while the event will start soon, so hopefully, the setting will be finished at the right time.
It's already there so you shouldn't think of it as if it's a new case that we have to face. Let us strengthen ourselves against the fight with covid19. As long as it hasn't been terminated, we need to think courageous and positive. No issues with the virtual audiences and for sure that the players are also longing to play again because it's their passion and livelihood at the same time.

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June 26, 2020, 09:17:48 PM
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the problem I see here is not the promoter or organizers preparing enough guidelines or protocols but the audience who will watch the game. we know that there are a lot of entitled people who thinks that rules doesn't apply to them and doesn't care if they endangered someone else's lives. if it was up to me I'd cancel the game until a vaccine is discovered.



You think it's a good idea to have the stadiums empty until a cure or vaccine is discovered?

Well, I think the focus should be how to get people to visit such places without violating a well researched and effective safety guideline. The policy makers should be working within the guidelines and not taking unnecessary extreme measures. If a good guideline is strictly followed, people will still be able to gather safely.

By the way, the good thing about many stadiums is that they are not totally enclosed. That will allow for fresh air and help limit the spread of the disease.
For some stadium, yes. but for majority of these places on where big events being held then that would surely talk about enclosed one which is really prone to high chances of infecting lots even a single person who do have the virus will able to get in specially to those people who dont show any symptoms which do really make this situation even more worst. Having virtual fans or crowd isnt really
a bad idea at all rather than having no any background noise or some sort because we know that one of factors that do stimulate players/teams performance do really comes to the crowd itself.
They might be aware on the new normal now and have to deal with it but they would really able to feel that odd thing.
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June 27, 2020, 07:40:46 AM
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It's already there so you shouldn't think of it as if it's a new case that we have to face. Let us strengthen ourselves against the fight with covid19. As long as it hasn't been terminated, we need to think courageous and positive. No issues with the virtual audiences and for sure that the players are also longing to play again because it's their passion and livelihood at the same time.
I hope people can unite against the virus, and they can use preventive ways from the virus together, so there are not many new cases of COVID-19.
We need to be more careful in the new normal because we never know what will happen in this next phase, and if we don't take care of our health, we can be a new suspect of COVID-19.
We don't want to get infect, and we need to follow every step suggested by the government, so we don't have to worry about the virus.
I am sure the player will do the same thing to carrying their health, and they don't want to be next infected people.

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June 27, 2020, 08:04:24 AM
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Players are not participating in any game out of concern for their health Everything has been put on hold No one wants to be infected with the virus The government has taken many good steps for them. However, many countries have been able to prevent the virus, the decision to open everything soon There is no doubt in anyone's mind about COVID-19 Now everyone is taking precautions and taking various steps to prevent it.
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June 27, 2020, 09:43:50 AM
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It's true that a soccer match without live audiences and crowded noises feels weird. If there is a live audience it is usually  the atmosphere
of the match getting more tense, that's what makes the match even more interesting. Since the match was reopen again  without a live
audience, many soccer fans have become a little disappointed. Luckily now FOX has an idea by making virtual fans to  NFL broadcasts,
if successful it might also be applied on football broadcast. I can't wait for the results, although it sure feels weird. At least not bad than
no crowded noises at all.

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June 27, 2020, 12:04:07 PM
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It's true that a soccer match without live audiences and crowded noises feels weird.
What about NBA playing without audience in Live?and also American Football playing powerfully without anyone cheering?

Yeah soccer game will never be the same without real fans on the game but almost all Games outdoor have the same situation right?

all they need to do is bare with the situation or never play still until the virus completely cured.

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If there is a live audience it is usually  the atmosphere
of the match getting more tense, that's what makes the match even more interesting.
It is the players discretion also mate if how they will managed to enjoy each game because the audience are watching Online so they must do their best to make them feel at home still even if that is not in actual game.
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June 27, 2020, 12:24:42 PM
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It's true that a soccer match without live audiences and crowded noises feels weird. If there is a live audience it is usually  the atmosphere
of the match getting more tense, that's what makes the match even more interesting. Since the match was reopen again  without a live
audience, many soccer fans have become a little disappointed. Luckily now FOX has an idea by making virtual fans to  NFL broadcasts,
if successful it might also be applied on football broadcast. I can't wait for the results, although it sure feels weird. At least not bad than
no crowded noises at all.

You would really able to tell the difference yet we arent really get used to it. Crowd is one of the best things on where it do make games even more interesting and thrilling.

Its good to see that they are trying out their best to find up solutions on at least considering to have those virtual fans and crowd noise. This isnt only helping out the players itself

but also it would also give out temporary feels just like when we are still on a normal state of living.Im also eyeing on how this thing works.

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June 27, 2020, 12:38:42 PM
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It will give some confidence to the players but not the same level as it was when the stadium is filled with the audience.And it needs lot of work and money to bring the same feel as people present in the stadium and all these things have to be done for no profits,then I doubt this kind of module will be implemented on every sport to tackle covid 19.

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June 27, 2020, 03:12:17 PM
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I haven't watched any live sports games until now.
Baseball, soccer, NFL, or NBA.

Is it really happening already? Virtual crowd, sounds, and cheers?
I just can't imagine it yet. Like the sounds while playing NBA2k and Madden?
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June 27, 2020, 03:24:49 PM
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It will give some confidence to the players but not the same level as it was when the stadium is filled with the audience.And it needs lot of work and money to bring the same feel as people present in the stadium and all these things have to be done for no profits,then I doubt this kind of module will be implemented on every sport to tackle covid 19.

It won't as there's no assurance that people who will watch each games from different games / sports will simply noticed that there are no real audiences.

Like what I've said, temporarily might but long term it won't, fans still love to hear and see real actions, also with the players they all wanted real cheering from the fans who are supporting them while playing the game.

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June 27, 2020, 07:31:26 PM
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Is it really happening already? Virtual crowd, sounds, and cheers?
I just can't imagine it yet. Like the sounds while playing NBA2k and Madden?

it's a bit like that, yes. they are already doing the fake crowd noise thing in bundesliga matches. it's not too bad IMO although slightly awkward with the empty stands: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrgO0ITWF5Q

here is a CGI crowd reel---this is what virtual fans will look like: https://www.themill.com/stories/our-cg-crowds-reel-is-here/

when the news about this first came out, i thought it would be extremely cheesy, but this actually looks better than i expected.

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June 28, 2020, 02:30:05 PM
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I don't know exactly where and how this started, but recently it has become very popular. In almost all sports fields, we can now see that clubs and teams provide morale for both the athletes and their athletes with this method, and besides that, they gain income with this method, although not as much as the fan income. Although it is a very nice method and this method is motivating for both teams and fans, I hope that we will return to the old system as soon as possible. Regardless of the type of sport, it would not be a lie if I said I watched the competition as a fan.
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June 28, 2020, 03:00:03 PM
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Though it is frustrating because i love watching game live here in my country yet People must be thankful to FOX because they are giving much effort just to give viewers and fans satisfaction even in this social distancing time.

Imagine how hard to watch Games without even hearing anything.now at least we will enjoy watching our favorite team (with fake cheering) .

Thanks for FOX team for organizing such thing for us.

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June 28, 2020, 07:26:27 PM
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It will give some confidence to the players but not the same level as it was when the stadium is filled with the audience.And it needs lot of work and money to bring the same feel as people present in the stadium and all these things have to be done for no profits,then I doubt this kind of module will be implemented on every sport to tackle covid 19.

I can understand if they’ll introduce it into broadcast matches from TV screens to increase the interest of the audience, but I don’t understand what is the point of introducing this directly into the matches themselves. After all, someone will have to sit and press buttons for various gaming moments, thereby creating artificial noise. Obviously, the AI will not cope with this, which means that the role of the "crowd" will be played by one or a group of people. This is comparable to the artificial applause played from a tape recorder.

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June 29, 2020, 03:51:12 AM
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Is it really happening already? Virtual crowd, sounds, and cheers?
I just can't imagine it yet. Like the sounds while playing NBA2k and Madden?

it's a bit like that, yes. they are already doing the fake crowd noise thing in bundesliga matches. it's not too bad IMO although slightly awkward with the empty stands: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrgO0ITWF5Q

here is a CGI crowd reel---this is what virtual fans will look like: https://www.themill.com/stories/our-cg-crowds-reel-is-here/

when the news about this first came out, i thought it would be extremely cheesy, but this actually looks better than i expected.

@figmentofmyass initially I was reluctant to turn on the volume because I wasn’t sure if I would like the artificial fans noise or no, but in the end I decided to give it a try, and honestly I fell in love with it as it made me feel that spectators were there in the stands.

However it seems that not all have warmed up to the Artificial fans noise idea, as Watford boss and commentator Derek Rae are against this idea.

It’s also pertinent to note that player’s in the stadium cannot hear this noise as of now, but for next season I feel they’ll be able to hear it.

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June 29, 2020, 06:00:17 AM
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Though it is frustrating because i love watching game live here in my country yet People must be thankful to FOX because they are giving much effort just to give viewers and fans satisfaction even in this social distancing time.

Imagine how hard to watch Games without even hearing anything.now at least we will enjoy watching our favorite team (with fake cheering) .

Thanks for FOX team for organizing such thing for us.

I watched the german Bundesliga this way and I must say it was kind of interesting to watch it that way.
It was nice to hear team communication, shouting and yelling if things went as planned or not as planned.
I wouldn't want it to be like that forver (obv.) but it sure got me in the game more hearing the players plan and shout as they were playing.
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June 29, 2020, 06:03:51 AM
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I can understand if they’ll introduce it into broadcast matches from TV screens to increase the interest of the audience, but I don’t understand what is the point of introducing this directly into the matches themselves. After all, someone will have to sit and press buttons for various gaming moments, thereby creating artificial noise. Obviously, the AI will not cope with this, which means that the role of the "crowd" will be played by one or a group of people. This is comparable to the artificial applause played from a tape recorder.
I think the sound will be like at the game Soccer, which we can hear the sound of the virtual audience if we can make a goal. That person will have a job to push the buttons for any bad or good moments, but the commentator will still be used to the match. I think the AI is not too necessary because they can record the sound from the game or the other sources. But it will not be as good as the real audience who come and watch the match.

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June 29, 2020, 06:30:26 AM
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This would be the perfect time to test the latest developments in the old tech of holograms. Like what you saw in old movies back when you can watch TV via holograms or you can talk to somebody else using hologram technology. This will be a good time to test those and see if that can supplement the lack of a physical audience. I think the hologram is the least developed of all visual technologies possibly because there is no use in today's society. But I think this will and should now be valued in an era where social distance will regularly be observed.

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June 29, 2020, 06:36:13 AM
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I think that holograms are tested from quite some time now.I remembering when they used in the USA many years ago a 2Pac hologram in his honor and people were shocked to see it.I think it is time to put this thing in work in a stadium and I think it can offer some sort of simulation of a real crowd.They just need to add some sounds from Tv channels who are broadcasting the game and that should do it.

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