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June 02, 2020, 08:34:05 AM
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I am not already good at strategy. But at least it's a resource to help you decide which game I can win.
Actually, my thread is about the gameplay, not about the "earn money online" stuff since popular mainstream slots game are "centralized," have high HE, and no way you can verify the fairness. However, if you "won't cry if you lose your gambling budget," then you can taste these games.

Even better, if someone can deploy provably fair slots that have much fun and animations, there are many marvelous slots listed on OP that they can "copy."

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June 15, 2020, 08:46:25 AM
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Roobet's "Guess the Slot" until 8th round:
- Devil's Number
- Money Train
- Black River Gold
- Book of Sun: Multi Chance
- Princess Royal
- Tahiti Gold
- Ocean's Fortune
- Erik the Red

Try these slots if you have time  Wink For me, however, I recommend Princess Royal & Erik the Red, except you want to play on low RTP games.

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Roobet's "Guess the Slot" until 8th round:
- Devil's Number
- Money Train
- Black River Gold
- Book of Sun: Multi Chance
- Princess Royal
- Tahiti Gold
- Ocean's Fortune
- Erik the Red

Try these slots if you have time  Wink For me, however, I recommend Princess Royal & Erik the Red, except you want to play on low RTP games.

I follow your topic for some time, your first post is very interesting, most of the slots you like to play are for fiat, not for crypto (at least the ones I tried to play).
Are these slots on Roobet for bitcoins? I would try your recommendation if they are for btc. I never played on this site, so I will gladly be your referral, you can pm referral link if you want and you have account there (I hope Roobet has referral program).
You have a great topic here, I like to play slots too and from time to time I try my luck in some casino! Smiley I like to try new slots, and after following you for a while I decided to do something, finally!

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most of the slots you like to play are for fiat, not for crypto (at least the ones I tried to play).
Are these slots on Roobet for bitcoins? I would try your recommendation if they are for btc.
It depends on the slots operator since not all of them directly accept BTC. For example (from what I remember), NoLimit City and Pragmatic Play directly accept BTC bet. However, that does not really matter because, in some casinos, players will be allowed to play with their dollar amount of BTC.

Let's say a player makes a deposit of 0.005 BTC ($50) and wants to play on a slot that doesn't directly accept BTC. He still can play with his $50. Every time he bet (let's say) $1 the system will convert his 0.0001 BTC into $1 and "spin it." When he wins (for example) x20, the system will take his $20 and convert it again into 0.002 BTC. Since this happens in nearly instant, the player can expect minimum "trading loss" because of it.

Edit: the player also withdraws in BTC.

Anyways, I haven't calculated the exact number of this convert things, I might be able to provide more information after this weekend, or you can calculate by yourself.

I never played on this site, so I will gladly be your referral, you can pm referral link if you want and you have account there (I hope Roobet has referral program).
Sure, I'll PM you Smiley

I like to try new slots, and after following you for a while I decided to do something, finally!
Don't follow me mate since every man is a sinner! LoL

Glad you enjoy my thread and you always welcome to post here, about which slots you love the most.

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Not a bad site, nice games. I had a nice morning with their roulette, towers, I played monopoly for a while. Of course most of the money went to slots. I lost first deposit and I made a second one.
I tried princes royal and I didn't like it much, classical slot, I like when there're more lines and to be more colorful. My favorite slots are from betsoft (don't say anything about that), but on betsoft slots I had the highest wins, and from all providers for me betsoft offers the best games.
I didn't play play'n go slots before, and I found a few slots that I like (that's why I made second deposit). Reactoonz, tome of madness, devils world, book of dead, testament are some games I played, and I played with half a dollar and dollars bet. In one moment I went high and then all the way to the bottom Smiley

Today I am free, so I can have fun! Smiley Interesting slots, and I hope I will win something, my second deposit is already there. Wish me luck! Smiley

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I tried princes royal and I didn't like it much, classical slot, I like when there're more lines and to be more colorful.
The list was about "Guess the Slot" game, so we can't expect much of gameplay.
In case you interested: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5255888.0

If about recommended slots, it's at the bottom part of this OP. See Starburst et al.

My favorite slots are from betsoft (don't say anything about that), but on betsoft slots I had the highest wins, and from all providers for me betsoft offers the best games.
I'm not familiar with it. Perhaps streamers don't play on casinos that support Betsoft.

Reactoonz, tome of madness, devils world, book of dead, testament
Noted, Reactoonz already on the "community pick" list.

I hope you didn't get zeroed though Grin

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I hope you didn't get zeroed though Grin

Smiley Exactly that happened, I got carried away with the tome of madness, I wanted to hit that bonus, you need to fill the bar on the left with 42 hits! Few times I had 41 and I needed any hit just to get to that bonus, but I didn't have luck! With wilds and those books on the board I was really close, but no luck for me!

I see you win the prize guess the slot! Very nice man, congrats! Smiley So there we wait for Hhampuz to open that level 5?

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Smiley Exactly that happened, I got carried away with the tome of madness, I wanted to hit that bonus, you need to fill the bar on the left with 42 hits! Few times I had 41 and I needed any hit just to get to that bonus, but I didn't have luck! With wilds and those books on the board I was really close, but no luck for me!
Been there and done that.

Yesterday is my lucky day I think, I triggered a bonus round on the Tomb of Nefertiti and Erik the Red in less than 50 spins.

I see you win the prize guess the slot! Very nice man, congrats! Smiley So there we wait for Hhampuz to open that level 5?
Yeah, I've won multiple times already.

It's here mate: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5256418.0
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Smiley Exactly that happened, I got carried away with the tome of madness, I wanted to hit that bonus, you need to fill the bar on the left with 42 hits! Few times I had 41 and I needed any hit just to get to that bonus, but I didn't have luck! With wilds and those books on the board I was really close, but no luck for me!
Been there and done that.

Yesterday is my lucky day I think, I triggered a bonus round on the Tomb of Nefertiti and Erik the Red in less than 50 spins.

I see you win the prize guess the slot! Very nice man, congrats! Smiley So there we wait for Hhampuz to open that level 5?
Yeah, I've won multiple times already.

It's here mate: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5256418.0
Best of luck!

Haha, been there and done that many times! Smiley Keep it green man, hitting a bonus round in less than 50 spins and to have a luck in that bonus round is a huge luck! I know how that feels! Wish you more luck, I believe you will continue to play with that profit! I will take a break from slots, this year I didn't have luck at all with slots, I won on other games, but with slots almost every time I lost, my wins are not enough to cover anything. But as I say to others I say to myself, never keep trying! Little break and I will try it again!

Thanks for sharing the direct link once again, I will try to guess which slot is this! I wish you luck man in guess the slot contest and in playing slots! Smiley

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Isn't it interesting that there are possible strategies one can make when playing the slot machine? I always pass by those slot machines in our local casino and see those people, well mostly older people try it out. I don't know in other countries, but it has a reputation on our end as the gambling obsession of lazy people and old people. But after I tested one out of boredom, there is a certain appeal to it that you cannot deny. Very interesting game indeed the slot machine.

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I will take a break from slots, this year I didn't have luck at all with slots, I won on other games, but with slots almost every time I lost, my wins are not enough to cover anything. But as I say to others I say to myself, never keep trying! Little break and I will try it again!
Perhaps you should try low-medium volatility slots mate so you can play longer even with a small bankroll. Well, it won't give you thousands x winning, but at least it can make you happy Cheesy

I stop play on high volatility slots after getting zeroed every time, multiple times, lol. It hurts so bad! So now I mainly play on low-medium one, sometimes medium-high.

In case you have some pennies to spend:
- Erik the Red (Low/Med);
- Warlords: Crystals of Power (Low/Med);
- Bronco Spirit (Med).

I believe you'll be back Grin



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Am I the only one who finds high variance slots can be much less money burner ?
 
Personally, I think that chances are important in slot-style gambling games, and all possible gains and losses depend on chance again. Of course, depending on your own experience, you may think that some games are more profitable or you may realize this, but as I mentioned in the first sentence, I think that luck is more important and very important factor in such games. I do not believe that the rate of earnings will increase individually or games.
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^In slots, the game can be classified into several groups based on its volatility. The higher the volatility, the higher the win multiplier. It's a bit like the risk and return relationship. Winning is more often in low volatility slots, but the winning multiplier will be lower, and vice versa.

Top-20 monthly slots ranking (June):
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Book of Dead - Play'n Go
Starburst - Netent
Bonanza - Big Time Gaming
Wolf Gold - Pragmatic Play
Reactoonz - Play'n Go
Piggy Riches Megaways - Red Tiger
Eye of Horus Megaways - Blueprint
Eye of Horus - Blueprint
Gonzos Quest - Netent
Rich Wilde and the Shield of Athena - Play'n Go
Buffalo Blitz - Playtech
Fishin Frenzy Jackpot King - Blueprint
John Hunter and the Tomb of the Scarab Queen - Pragmatic Play
Mustang Gold - Pragmatic Play
Reel King Mega - Red Tiger
Mega Moolah - MicroGaming
Dynamite Riches - Red Tiger
Trollpot 5000 - Netent
Cleopatra - IGT
Age Of The Gods: God of Storms - Playtech
Source: http://www.igamingtracker.com/egr-top-20-rankings/

Starburst and Book of Dead remain strong in 2020. I wonder which game will topple these champions. Honestly, these slots are kind of outdated if we judge it by the gameplay.
Perhaps Book of Dead lovers should try Legacy of Dead. It's similar but newer (released in Q4 2019).

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June 30, 2020, 09:40:17 AM
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Perhaps you should try low-medium volatility slots mate so you can play longer even with a small bankroll. Well, it won't give you thousands x winning, but at least it can make you happy Cheesy

I stop play on high volatility slots after getting zeroed every time, multiple times, lol. It hurts so bad! So now I mainly play on low-medium one, sometimes medium-high.

In case you have some pennies to spend:
- Erik the Red (Low/Med);
- Warlords: Crystals of Power (Low/Med);
- Bronco Spirit (Med).

I believe you'll be back Grin


Well the taste is the taste! Smiley
I play all slots, but high volatility slots are much more interesting for me. As you say I got zeroed many times, sometimes it's hurt sometimes don't, but usually I come back fast with more money and I had luck to make big money when I hit something good!
I'm busy these days with many things, maybe this weekend I will have more time and I will try your suggestions! Thanks man!

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July 01, 2020, 12:01:58 PM
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^Obviously exploration vs exploitation is an interesting topic, but I'm not sure if the problem will still be relevant with a random number generator in modern slots. Hence:

Strategy

(5) You don't have to stay in the same game and waste all of your money there. Remember, the probability of winning the next spin will remain the same.

This is the most general advice in slots since you don't have to do a statistical analysis while playing.
Do you think (or anyone else) my calculations are correct :

If I have one in 10 000 chances of winning the jackpot at each spin it means I have 9 999 chances of missing it.
Thus I have 9 999/10 000 x 9 999/10 000 of missing it for 2 spins  

So for 1000 spins I'll get
(9 999/10 000)1000=90.5% chances of missing the jackpot
and 1 - 90.5%=9.5% chances of winning the jackpot at least one time

and for 10 000 spins
(9 999/10 000)10 000=37% of missing the jackpot
and 1 - 37%=63% chances of winning the jackpot at least one time


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July 01, 2020, 06:04:46 PM
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^ I don't like math, but I think the calculation is correct based on independent probability "at least one time."

P (Win) = 0.0001
P (No win) = 1 - 0.0001 = 0.9999

P (at least one win in 10,000 spins) = 1 - P (no win in 10,000 spins)
= 1 - P (No win in 1st spin ∩ No win in 2nd spin ∩ .... ∩ No win in 10,000th spin)
= 1 - (0.9999)(0.9999)....(0.9999)
= 1 - (0.9999)^10,000
= 1 - 36.79%
= 63.21%

But the probability of winning in the next spin will always 0.0001.
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^ I don't like math, but I think the calculation is correct based on independent probability "at least one time."

P (Win) = 0.0001
P (No win) = 1 - 0.0001 = 0.9999

P (at least one win in 10,000 spins) = 1 - P (no win in 10,000 spins)
= 1 - P (No win in 1st spin ∩ No win in 2nd spin ∩ .... ∩ No win in 10,000th spin)
= 1 - (0.9999)(0.9999)....(0.9999)
= 1 - (0.9999)^10,000
= 1 - 36.79%
= 63.21%

But the probability of winning in the next spin will always 0.0001.
CMIIW
Thank you, your calculations are better explained than mine actually.
The Khan academy uses this method to solve similar problems so I think it's the right way.
https://en.khanacademy.org/math/statistics-probability/probability-library/multiplication-rule-independent/a/probabilities-involving-at-least-one-success

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July 06, 2020, 01:25:05 PM
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The Khan academy uses this method to solve similar problems so I think it's the right way.
I believe it's a standard textbook way to solve the problem. So? Are you going to do the 10,000 spins? LoL

Anyways, Roobet's "Guess the Slot" from 9th to 21st round (RTP info from slotcatalog.com):
- Tractor Beam (96.01% - Med/High);
- Crazy Starter (96.04% - Med);
- Voodoo Gold (96.1% - High);
- Fire Lightning (97.61% - Med/High)
- Sky Gems 5 Wilds (N/A);
- Spin and Spell (95.8% - N/A);
- Dragon's Fire (95.25% - High);
- Mechanical Orange (96% - N/A);
- Phoenix Fire Power Reels (95.13% - Med/High);
- Avalon: The Lost Kingdom (95% - N/A);
- Spin Town (95.07% - Low);
- Midas Golden Touch (96.1% - Med/High);
- Turning Totems (96.1% - Low/Med).

Fire Lightning is one of my "menu" when I'm on a "jump around" mode.

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I played few times on Roobet and for now puzzle slots are the most fun for me because new pieces keep coming.. it's like a freespin because I can keep winning with the same initial bet..

The other types looks kinda boring for me.. specially the 3-reel slots..


Awesome post @mu_enrico, thank you!

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^In slots, the game can be classified into several groups based on its volatility. The higher the volatility, the higher the win multiplier. It's a bit like the risk and return relationship. Winning is more often in low volatility slots, but the winning multiplier will be lower, and vice versa.

Top-20 monthly slots ranking (June):
Quote
Book of Dead - Play'n Go
Starburst - Netent
Bonanza - Big Time Gaming
Wolf Gold - Pragmatic Play
Reactoonz - Play'n Go
Piggy Riches Megaways - Red Tiger
Eye of Horus Megaways - Blueprint
Eye of Horus - Blueprint
Gonzos Quest - Netent
Rich Wilde and the Shield of Athena - Play'n Go
Buffalo Blitz - Playtech
Fishin Frenzy Jackpot King - Blueprint
John Hunter and the Tomb of the Scarab Queen - Pragmatic Play
Mustang Gold - Pragmatic Play
Reel King Mega - Red Tiger
Mega Moolah - MicroGaming
Dynamite Riches - Red Tiger
Trollpot 5000 - Netent
Cleopatra - IGT
Age Of The Gods: God of Storms - Playtech
Source: http://www.igamingtracker.com/egr-top-20-rankings/

Starburst and Book of Dead remain strong in 2020. I wonder which game will topple these champions. Honestly, these slots are kind of outdated if we judge it by the gameplay.
Perhaps Book of Dead lovers should try Legacy of Dead. It's similar but newer (released in Q4 2019).

Although released in end of 2019 it is almos the same.The bonus frequency haven’t changed at all and remain in what I call “rarely falls on the reels” most of our gameplay sessions.However a fun fact is that when the bonus round comes in such games always gives you a decent amount of money to win.In slots where bonus frequency is higher most of the time the bonus round gives only pennies and it give you a false sense of feeling good.

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