Slots 101: Basics, Strategies, and Discussion (with poll)

[Beparanf]

Hey guys just a curious question from a beginner like that will try the slots game. I already understand how the RTP works on each slot games. I just to know if there a simple method to know the volatility rate of each slot without undergoing to actually play the game real/demo.  I really want to know what's the best slot to get a higher multiplier so I conclude that volatility will be the key to my question but I don't know how to choose the perfect slot for it. I play a couple of slot using free spin but I don't have much knowledge on most of the slot games since there's bunch of it for me to try all. Is there a website that provides data base for an in depth analysis on each slot?

TIA!

[mu_enrico]

if there a simple method to know the volatility rate of each slot without undergoing to actually play the game real/demo.
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Is there a website that provides data base for an in depth analysis on each slot?

If just opening the game and read the (i) information is also forbidden, then you can use 3rd party slots review sites such as slotcatalog.com or others.

I really want to know what's the best slot to get a higher multiplier so I conclude that volatility will be the key to my question but I don't know how to choose the perfect slot for it.

You should search for extreme or very high volatility slots paired with high max-win. Well, on the far right of the scale you can try DOA2, Mega Moolah, Tombstone RIP.

No replay = hoax, that should be the new norm

WTF
Push Game has no replay feature

It means that you should record it manually with screen recorder on your PC or phone anytime you play games with no replay feature.

Yeah, no replay = no fun... I love to see the big wins, especially from you guys!
Considering the event is pretty rare as well, it serves as a memento

[masulum]

You can check all the official mirror list here
Choose one that works for you but afaik Indonesian players usually use the .games one.

Thank you for providing the link, yesterday I tried to register, but to deposit IDR we have to register for a financial service that I don't have for now. I thought I could deposit IDR on Stake can be using an e-wallet, but I can't.

If you use BK8, I like to bonus buy on PGSoft,

Yes, I'm still playing on BK8, for PGsoft, maybe I'll try another time.

[Bitinity]

Yeah, no replay = no fun... I love to see the big wins, especially from you guys!
Considering the event is pretty rare as well, it serves as a memento

I loved to see big wins from my own game obviously but I think I have no more chances to see it because I have reduced my gambling activity more than 90%. Now we can wait for the share from roycilik only who is still playing almost every day .

I thought I could deposit IDR on Stake can be using an e-wallet, but I can't.

Stake is a pure crypto casino, there is no way you can deposit with any fiat currency. Afaik the only available trusted casino in this forum where you can make deposit with fiat through e-wallet is bk8. If you want to deposit with fiat especially IDR, you should find Indonesian local casinos. There are many of them but I cant guarantee which one is reliable enough.

[masulum]

Yup, I previously thought Stake could also can deposit IDR directly, but I was wrong. I'm not interested in local casino providers for now, maybe BK8 is the only choice for me if I want to deposit fiat. Maybe next time I will try Playbetr, indeed I can't deposit IDR, but I see there are many promotions that are run specifically for Bitcointalk members.

[panjul07]

Yup, I previously thought Stake could also can deposit IDR directly, but I was wrong. I'm not interested in local casino providers for now, maybe BK8 is the only choice for me if I want to deposit fiat. Maybe next time I will try Playbetr, indeed I can't deposit IDR, but I see there are many promotions that are run specifically for Bitcointalk members.

At the moment there is no on going special promotions for bitcointalk members in Playbetr, the last one ended 2 weeks ago IIRC.
If you want to get better UI experience and smoothness as well as more games to play, Stake is a better place than Playbetr.
Obviously, choice is yours and you can pick which one or try all of any available casino in this forum.

[MinMan]

Yup, I previously thought Stake could also can deposit IDR directly, but I was wrong. I'm not interested in local casino providers for now, maybe BK8 is the only choice for me if I want to deposit fiat. Maybe next time I will try Playbetr, indeed I can't deposit IDR, but I see there are many promotions that are run specifically for Bitcointalk members.

You can actually, if you press that deposit button, you will see that " buy crypto" tab, you need to press that and press on that usd button, by there it will show different local currencies including idr. This was a new feature that they implement last time and along with this, you can now also see your crypto balance in local currencies.

You should search for extreme or very high volatility slots paired with high max-win. Well, on the far right of the scale you can try DOA2, Mega Moolah, Tombstone RIP.

Like him I am also a fan of high multipliers so I am thankful for these suggestions. now I know which slots to pick. What is good about high multipliers is they can give you a huge win with a small amount of bet however they are also hard to hunt and may cost you more if you are not wise to stop early.

It means that you should record it manually with screen recorder on your PC or phone anytime you play games with no replay feature.

Is replay really that matter? hehe I think what important is that you win something. I've tried manual recording and its kinda sucks because my game or my device lags. It's not worthy because most of the times I never won.

[panjul07]

Yup, I previously thought Stake could also can deposit IDR directly, but I was wrong. I'm not interested in local casino providers for now, maybe BK8 is the only choice for me if I want to deposit fiat. Maybe next time I will try Playbetr, indeed I can't deposit IDR, but I see there are many promotions that are run specifically for Bitcointalk members.

You can actually, if you press that deposit button, you will see that " buy crypto" tab, you need to press that and press on that usd button, by there it will show different local currencies including idr. This was a new feature that they implement last time and along with this, you can now also see your crypto balance in local currencies.

Using moonpay to deposit is a bit complicated especially for those who are not familiar with it.
I believe what he want is something like a direct IDR deposit from his bank account or e-wallet account to the casino.
I have never used this "moonpay" to deposit in Stake even though I'm an old user there and still playing regularly.
Direct Crypto transfer is my best choice to deposit in Stake than using 3rd party payment method like moonpay.

[ralle14]

Can you guys give me a recommendation on which slots could dish out the most wagering amount without losing much similar to how playing dice at 1.01x?

I sometimes play slots but I haven't stumbled upon a slot game that slowly burns your bankroll, the ones i've been playing are usually a hit or miss.

It just came to mind while I was browsing the games and rounds section as Livecasino was offering a reward for wagering 1mbtc on their slots but unfortunately, it ended earlier today.

[Bitinity]

Can you guys give me a recommendation on which slots could dish out the most wagering amount without losing much similar to how playing dice at 1.01x?

I sometimes play slots but I haven't stumbled upon a slot game that slowly burns your bankroll, the ones i've been playing are usually a hit or miss.

It just came to mind while I was browsing the games and rounds section as Livecasino was offering a reward for wagering 1mbtc on their slots but unfortunately, it ended earlier today.

It is hard to find such slot game where you can wager a lot with less risk like you may do in dice at 1.01x but you may try old school slot where with 3 reels  and 1 payline only. Example: Tree of Riches and 88 Dragon by Pragmatic Play. I used to play these 2 games long time ago when I participated in Fortunejack competition, I can say that these 2 games let me wager nice amount but I did not lose much but of course it is not a guarantee as sometime slot can be something really wild that eat your balance fast.

[masulum]

Using moonpay to deposit is a bit complicated especially for those who are not familiar with it.
I believe what he want is something like a direct IDR deposit from his bank account or e-wallet account to the casino.  -snip-

That's right, it's not that I don't understand how to deposit, but I'm reluctant to register at Moonpay, even though it doesn't take too long to register there. I had hoped to be able to deposit IDR directly before, but it didn't. So, for now I choose not to deposit in Stake, while waiting for some free money to try my luck there. Because a friend suggested playing on Stake, if I want to focus playing on pragmatic, with a better RTP there.

[mu_enrico]

Can you guys give me a recommendation on which slots could dish out the most wagering amount without losing much similar to how playing dice at 1.01x?

I sometimes play slots but I haven't stumbled upon a slot game that slowly burns your bankroll, the ones i've been playing are usually a hit or miss.

It just came to mind while I was browsing the games and rounds section as Livecasino was offering a reward for wagering 1mbtc on their slots but unfortunately, it ended earlier today.

If the minimum bet isn't specified, you can play $0.01/spin games, just like what @Panjul recommends.
But if the minimum bet is specified, like $0.1 or more, I used PnG - Perfect Gems to beat FJ's Bonus Appetit.
In the past, Nolimit City - Tomb of Nefertiti, PnG - Celebration / Beast / Temple of Wealth also earned me nice contest wins.

Generally, you should look for low/medium volatility games with lower max-win, the lower the better.

[roycilik]

How was your gambling today?
I just tried a new game from Play'N Go, it's called "Forge of Gems". another version of Prism of Gems, frozen gems, Perfect gems LOL

[KTChampions]

Can you guys give me a recommendation on which slots could dish out the most wagering amount without losing much similar to how playing dice at 1.01x?

I sometimes play slots but I haven't stumbled upon a slot game that slowly burns your bankroll, the ones i've been playing are usually a hit or miss.

It just came to mind while I was browsing the games and rounds section as Livecasino was offering a reward for wagering 1mbtc on their slots but unfortunately, it ended earlier today.

It is hard to find such slot game where you can wager a lot with less risk like you may do in dice at 1.01x but you may try old school slot where with 3 reels  and 1 payline only. Example: Tree of Riches and 88 Dragon by Pragmatic Play. I used to play these 2 games long time ago when I participated in Fortunejack competition, I can say that these 2 games let me wager nice amount but I did not lose much but of course it is not a guarantee as sometime slot can be something really wild that eat your balance fast.

I'm not very knowledgeable, but isn't the house edge in slots about the same for all games? By and large, there is no difference in which game to play, there is only a difference whether you can choose the degree of risk or not (and compared to dice, of course, there are much fewer options for choosing).

[Bitinity]

How was your gambling today?
I just tried a new game from Play'N Go, it's called "Forge of Gems". another version of Prism of Gems, frozen gems, Perfect gems LOL

How about the new "POP" by yggdrasil "Lollypop"? You have a magic luck with POP games and I think you will find the luck in this new game too. I'm not sure how this new Pop game works as I see it in the landing page of a casino but I havent opened the game to see how it works.

I'm not very knowledgeable, but isn't the house edge in slots about the same for all games? By and large, there is no difference in which game to play, there is only a difference whether you can choose the degree of risk or not (and compared to dice, of course, there are much fewer options for choosing).

It is rare to say house edge for slot games, we usually use RTP. Not all slot games has the same RTP as it is variable depending on some factors such as volatility. mu_enrico can help you more about the basic knowledge of slot games. Indeed most slot games has low RTP or we can say it as high house edge, but there are also some slot with high RTP/low house edge but I do not think slot games with high RTP is attractive to play.

[mu_enrico]

isn't the house edge in slots about the same for all games? By and large, there is no difference in which game to play, there is only a difference whether you can choose the degree of risk or not (and compared to dice, of course, there are much fewer options for choosing).

Well, it depends on how much difference would you call as "about the same." Yeah, Pragmatic Play has a ~96.5% RTP, and others vary from ~95% to ~97%. However, that's not the point when @Bitinity suggest Tree of Riches and 888 Dragon.

These two games simply allow you to bet $0.01/spin, therefore, your balance will last longer than if you play with a higher bet (let's say $0.1/spin). For wagering contests, there are two variables that pretty much determine the "sustainability, " i.e., (1) minimum bet, and (2) volatility (e.g. 1.01x setting at dice). Since you can't tweak the slots volatility, it would be best to seek for the lowest minimum bet allowed. This is the "best bang for your buck" method. However, this method can't guarantee winning because it's slow. You'll be out-wagered by a whale with $10/spin.

[KTChampions]

isn't the house edge in slots about the same for all games? By and large, there is no difference in which game to play, there is only a difference whether you can choose the degree of risk or not (and compared to dice, of course, there are much fewer options for choosing).

Well, it depends on how much difference would you call as "about the same." Yeah, Pragmatic Play has a ~96.5% RTP, and others vary from ~95% to ~97%. However, that's not the point when @Bitinity suggest Tree of Riches and 888 Dragon.

These two games simply allow you to bet $0.01/spin, therefore, your balance will last longer than if you play with a higher bet (let's say $0.1/spin). For wagering contests, there are two variables that pretty much determine the "sustainability, " i.e., (1) minimum bet, and (2) volatility (e.g. 1.01x setting at dice). Since you can't tweak the slots volatility, it would be best to seek for the lowest minimum bet allowed. This is the "best bang for your buck" method. However, this method can't guarantee winning because it's slow. You'll be out-wagered by a whale with $10/spin.

Thanks for the explanations, but it turns out that for a wager, the presence of a convenient minimum bet does not greatly affect the final result, because there is no difference in making 100 dollar bets or 1000 bets of $0.1 from the point of view of wagering. There is a difference only in the variance i.e. on a larger number of bets, we will get the value closest to the RTP. And yes, we won’t be able to “wind up” a lot wager for competition with our 100 dollars, and any whale will win it from us.

[panjul07]

Thanks for the explanations, but it turns out that for a wager, the presence of a convenient minimum bet does not greatly affect the final result, because there is no difference in making 100 dollar bets or 1000 bets of $0.1 from the point of view of wagering. There is a difference only in the variance i.e. on a larger number of bets, we will get the value closest to the RTP. And yes, we won’t be able to “wind up” a lot wager for competition with our 100 dollars, and any whale will win it from us.

If you are going to wager as much as possible with slot games, min bet does affect the result.
Simple example, you have starting balance of $100 and you want to wager $10k.
The chance to reach the goal is better if you bet smaller lets say 0.1-0.2 than betting bigger amount like $5-$10.
Real example, I participated in a contest some time ago and I made 200k bets with $0.01 bet means I have wagered $2,000 while I started it with less than $50.
I believe I wont reach $2,000 wager if I bet more than $0.5 per spin as I may lose my initial bankroll sooner.
However if the main purpose is to compete wagering contest, it is obvious that small bets wont have chance to win but I think the main idea from ralle14 is about how to wager much with less risk of losing much.

[mu_enrico]

I felt the discussion above mostly is just a matter of definition, just like this scene.
For us street gamblers, it's pretty obvious that the smaller the minimum bet, the more we can spin, scoring more wager before our limited bankroll got empty.

Real example, I participated in a contest some time ago and I made 200k bets with $0.01 bet means I have wagered $2,000 while I started it with less than $50.
I believe I wont reach $2,000 wager if I bet more than $0.5 per spin as I may lose my initial bankroll sooner.

Yeah, the important assumption here is "limited bankroll" as the theory often forgot to mention the used assumption.
For example, RTP/HE assumes unlimited spins/bankroll.

So with $50, we can spin more with a $0.01 minimum bet and:

on a larger number of bets, we will get the value closest to the RTP.

[masulum]

It's a shame, the big win that was in front of my eyes was finally destroyed because of emotion, again I wasted my chance when I won haha. Playing Chaisen Maxways earlier won 10x from the bonus buy IDR100K, and lost all of this win. Well, luckily there are still wins, so I can still makes a Withdraw even though it's only part of the winnings I get.

Unfortunately, in Spadegaming there are no replays, so I can't share my winnings.