Slots 101: Basics, Strategies, and Discussion (with poll)

[Bitinity]

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I'm not a fan of (maybe yet) slots games, just sometimes play it for fun not really chasing profits and choosing any games that I like. By the way talking about RTP on slots I have a question about it, how we know the percentage of RTP in slots games? Whether we can find out this kind of information inside the games or should searching it first by search engine?

Nowadays most casinos give the information about the RTP, for example https://prnt.sc/w3mb5d Most providers also provide the information about the RTP of every game they have. You can open the game and find the information symbol to find about the RTP. Of course the easiest way to find it out is by using the information provided by the casino as what you can see on above screenshot as you do not need to open the game just to check the RTP.

[mu_enrico]

how we know the percentage of RTP in slots games?

The best practice is to check the in-game (i)/info button or sometimes (?)/help button on each software, and a good provider will always state their RTP there.
Concerning Bitinity's suggestion, yes, some casinos offer RTP info near the game icon, but sometimes it's not accurate (mistype and such).

[TGD]

how we know the percentage of RTP in slots games?

The best practice is to check the in-game (i)/info button or sometimes (?)/help button on each software, and a good provider will always state their RTP there.
Concerning Bitinity's suggestion, yes, some casinos offer RTP info near the game icon, but sometimes it's not accurate (mistype and such).

I have concerns too about computation of RTP, I stumble on evolution gaming games like monopoly and crazy time, they are not actually slot but they still have RTP, I wonder how they come up to there declared value while the game has different betting option.

Same with slot. There are different option on slot that you can add more lines to bet so that you increase chance of winning. Is RTP percentage will be the same? AFAIK, RTP is the return to player over time so if I have a hundred bet, 90% of my bet will be my profit if the RTP was 90%.

[Betwrong]

how we know the percentage of RTP in slots games?

The best practice is to check the in-game (i)/info button or sometimes (?)/help button on each software, and a good provider will always state their RTP there.
Concerning Bitinity's suggestion, yes, some casinos offer RTP info near the game icon, but sometimes it's not accurate (mistype and such).

I have concerns too about computation of RTP, I stumble on evolution gaming games like monopoly and crazy time, they are not actually slot but they still have RTP, I wonder how they come up to there declared value while the game has different betting option.

Same with slot. There are different option on slot that you can add more lines to bet so that you increase chance of winning. Is RTP percentage will be the same? AFAIK, RTP is the return to player over time so if I have a hundred bet, 90% of my bet will be my profit if the RTP was 90%.

No, that's surely not guaranteed. 90% RTP means that with millions and millions bets made, by various players collectively, 90% of the total amount wagered will be returned to all the bettors, again, collectively. Some of them can win thousands of USD within just few bets, while others can lose thousands, winning almost nothing with many rolls. This is especially true about high volatility slots.

[mu_enrico]

I have concerns too about computation of RTP, I stumble on evolution gaming games like monopoly and crazy time, they are not actually slot but they still have RTP, I wonder how they come up to there declared value while the game has different betting option.

These games also have a house edge, so theoretically, RTP is 100% - HE.

There are different option on slot that you can add more lines to bet so that you increase chance of winning. Is RTP percentage will be the same?

No, more lines = more RTP (generally). For example, in games like Hotline, Book of Shadows, adding more lines will change your winning probability, thus change the RTP.

AFAIK, RTP is the return to player over time so if I have a hundred bet, 90% of my bet will be my profit if the RTP was 90%.

There are two kinds of RTP, (1) theoretical and (2) actual/live.
(1) Theoretical RTP is basically what is being programmed, which will/should be accurate after hundreds of millions of spins. Let's say the total input was $100,000,000 the software should produce the output of $90,000,000 (assumed 90% RTP).
(2) If you only do hundreds of spins, you still play on a 90% RTP software, but the actual RTP will be based on your luck. If you walk out smiling with a double bankroll, then the live RTP is 200%.

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[swogerino]

how we know the percentage of RTP in slots games?

The best practice is to check the in-game (i)/info button or sometimes (?)/help button on each software, and a good provider will always state their RTP there.
Concerning Bitinity's suggestion, yes, some casinos offer RTP info near the game icon, but sometimes it's not accurate (mistype and such).

I have concerns too about computation of RTP, I stumble on evolution gaming games like monopoly and crazy time, they are not actually slot but they still have RTP, I wonder how they come up to there declared value while the game has different betting option.

Same with slot. There are different option on slot that you can add more lines to bet so that you increase chance of winning. Is RTP percentage will be the same? AFAIK, RTP is the return to player over time so if I have a hundred bet, 90% of my bet will be my profit if the RTP was 90%.

No, that's surely not guaranteed. 90% RTP means that with millions and millions bets made, by various players collectively, 90% of the total amount wagered will be returned to all the bettors, again, collectively. Some of them can win thousands of USD within just few bets, while others can lose thousands, winning almost nothing with many rolls. This is especially true about high volatility slots.

Exactly and this is where most people get confused.They think that if they play 1000 Eur they should get 900 Eur back on their session.Slots don’t work like that but are based on a programming algorithm which decides when to give back that 90% if the Rtp is 90% in a certain game.There is some pre programming to this but this happens completely randomly when the slot is in a “full” state meaning has reached its initial target of money and now gives back until it hit 90% Rtp and this is the theoretical Rtp.

[Betwrong]

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There are different option on slot that you can add more lines to bet so that you increase chance of winning. Is RTP percentage will be the same?

No, more lines = more RTP (generally). For example, in games like Hotline, Book of Shadows, adding more lines will change your winning probability, thus change the RTP.
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I think it should be noted that with adding more lines the RTP increases only very slightly

Game ID BookOfShadows

The theoretical return to the player for this game is 96.01%.
The theoretical return to the player for 4 Shadow Rows is 96.07%.
The theoretical return to the player for 5 Shadow Rows is 96.19%.

and, unless you are making millions of spins, you will hardly notice the difference between 96.01% and 96.19%.

Yet, I can't deny it, psychologically you "feel" that your winning probability is increasing with adding more lines. That's true.

[panjul07]

Wait for a while guys, soon there will be someone share a great win on Razor Shark as he got 3000x multiplier.
This lucky little devil gets his luck while he was playing with a very bad emotion
Thanks to this lucky guy for sharing it with some of us including me.
Wish the luck continues mate.

[roycilik]

He was to busy playing on "Push Gaming" -

I'm still here :v

Wait for a while guys, soon there will be someone share a great win on Razor Shark as he got 3000x multiplier.
This lucky little devil gets his luck while he was playing with a very bad emotion

Yeah, you know lately I've been feeling really bored and unlucky
but in the end, I got results that were beyond my expectations

The party starts here:

[mu_enrico]

I got results that were beyond my expectations

The party starts here:

I wish the luck continues as well, but be careful mate as from my experience, after I got big wins like that, I ended up with a long drought.
However, I still believe some people have better luck in slots than others.

In my case, I'm just not lucky in gambling, and maybe my luck is for other areas of my life *crying inside*

[swogerino]

I got results that were beyond my expectations

The party starts here:

I wish the luck continues as well, but be careful mate as from my experience, after I got big wins like that, I ended up with a long drought.
However, I still believe some people have better luck in slots than others.

In my case, I'm just not lucky in gambling, and maybe my luck is for other areas of my life *crying inside*

As you know I think we share the same idea of life.As I also after got big wins with huge multipliers soon after I got broke and it was this exact moment which has kept me away from slots,now the max I play is 10 Euros with minimum bet and if I win I quit and the same if I lose.I think I have been lucky in other areas of life so far.

[seleme]

Is there any alternative version to check live RTP except slotcatalog? AFAIK, the slots master finds the real RTP based on billion spins, how do you apply this information to your gameplay? I have checked bitcasino but the hourly or daily RTPs are available for the single website. Stake.com only shows the simple general RTP, btw. I have made a few hundred spins on the suggested slots and one more question: What do you think about the Fat Santa or Fat Rabbit slots?

[mu_enrico]

Is there any alternative version to check live RTP except slotcatalog?

I only know Bitcasino and Slotcatalog.com
Any other sites guys?

AFAIK, the slots master finds the real RTP based on billion spins, how do you apply this information to your gameplay?

Do you mean the game developer? Each software should pass the quality control (and other certifications) and RTP is on the checklist.
More RTP = more chance to win = less money to burn. Ceteris Paribus, you can play longer on 96% RTP than on 94% RTP Book of Dead.

I'd spent more time on high RTP software.

I have made a few hundred spins on the suggested slots and one more question: What do you think about the Fat Santa or Fat Rabbit slots?

You need a bigger bankroll on Push Gaming since they usually have $0.2 or $0.25 minimum.
The game itself is fine, as it doesn't have a crazy max multiplier.

[roycilik]

You need a bigger bankroll on Push Gaming since they usually have $0.2 or $0.25 minimum.
The game itself is fine, as it doesn't have a crazy max multiplier.

Totally agree
Push games will only kill you faster if you only have a ~ $50 bankroll (outside of luck)
myself playing Razor Shark can spend around $30 to $40 before getting the big win.

There are several platforms that apply different minimum bets on Razor Shark
duelbits: $0.2
chips.gg: $0.1

[mu_enrico]

I feel a bit cheated after spending so much time spinning gazillion times on FJ:

I manage to do this 40x wager with "given" 5mBTC, but not much balance left. The saddest thing is they require you to DEPOSIT 5mBTC and wager it 1x before the fund gets into your balance.

In conclusion: this is not a "no deposit bonus," and the wagering requirement is 41x.

Luckily:

I won!
I told you guys that at least one of us would win this lottery!

I'm happy with $150, the biggest win from a raffle/lottery in my life! LoL.
Thanks @duelbits!

From the users' point of view, this experience is like day and night.

Did anyone try Big Bass Bonanza? I found two scatters teasing is pretty addicting. 

[panjul07]

Did anyone try Big Bass Bonanza? I found two scatters teasing is pretty addicting. 

Free spins is easy to trigger but big win is quite hard to get.
I have tried it on Stake and my best multiplier is 211x (from a free spin with x3 multiplier)
What I feel is that when I'm on free spins, the fisherman symbols is very rare to show up while it is a symbols to collect the money on the fish symbols and to level up the multiplier.
I'm sure I have got more than 50 free spins on this game and my best was that 211x with x3 multiplier.
I feel that most new pragmatic games is not worth to try, perhaps because I'm not lucky

[Twentyonepaylots]

For me the easiest thing to pull out of the big prizes was the free spins. They generally are just there and all although I know statistics would say otherwise. I haven't been able to get big wins even in my 3 years of trying slots, perhaps due to house advantage or something else. Although I only play it anyway to unwind and relax myself.

[roycilik]

@mu_enrico looks like you are comparing 2 gambling platforms
but yeah reading your story about "no deposit bonus" is really painful, sorry about that
at least you managed to beat the 40x wager challenge, it was amazing
Let's join in the next duelbits contest :v

[mu_enrico]

Free spins is easy to trigger but big win is quite hard to get.

Yeah, and two scatters occur very often.
That's right, I could only trigger one respin (2x) and won about 200x, but I enjoy playing it very much since the feature was triggered quite often. 

I haven't been able to get big wins even in my 3 years of trying slots, perhaps due to house advantage or something else. Although I only play it anyway to unwind and relax myself.

Big wins are relative; how high were your multipliers?
You should have got more than 1,000x after playing for three years.

but yeah reading your story about "no deposit bonus" is really painful, sorry about that

Just a little bit butthurt since I thought the deal was real and getting jebaited by a casino is a new low for me, lol

[swogerino]

For me the easiest thing to pull out of the big prizes was the free spins. They generally are just there and all although I know statistics would say otherwise. I haven't been able to get big wins even in my 3 years of trying slots, perhaps due to house advantage or something else. Although I only play it anyway to unwind and relax myself.

That is really strange not having knocked down a big win in slots.Personally I have won over 1000x often in less than one year of intensive slot playing,it is another thing that I lost it all soon after winning it.I think you should change to high volatility slots which offer up to 5000x or 10000x your bet and I am confident in three years you will surely knock a huge prize.