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It can't be from Satoshi just because it was mined on 2009. Bitcoin had many other miners back in 2009. All we know is the Bitcoins belong to some old miners but it doesn't mean that Satoshi mined them himself.
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A very interesting research. But to express my guess, I think Satoshi would use his Bitcoins for charity at most! (if he still has control over it) I don't think Satoshi would want to harm his work in the slightest. I would speculate on an early adopter of the first hours. The field can definitely be narrowed down, but I don't think anyone can tell for sure who made this transaction! Unless the sender reveals himself... But even this mere speculation about this is fun!
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May 21, 2020, 02:27:16 PM |
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I've looked through all the posts in the thread, and while it seems clear it's not Satoshi, it is one of the early adopters (or someone close to an early adopter who has access to coins) which is exciting to me. When going through transactions linked to the addresses, I've noticed something many people could miss due to language and political background. Namely, 17XiVVooLcdCUCMf9s4t4jTExacxwFS5uh sent 11-year-old BTC to 1BzN95J72BLBafwgZiZZvM9s7Wj2bxzA6m (40 BTC) and 3A6AsxxxzgHnGKhiFyW4tYX1Hn2sjNfrQP (almost 10 BTC). But this old address also received a few very small transactions about 17 hours ago from 1 PutinHujnU54vbyr6DX1gF2esqxx7KEz (correct me if I got the transaction info wrong). Now, the part of the transaction I marked in bold hints to its owner being a Ukrainian (or a sympathizer) because it means 'Putin is a d*ck' (but in a more offensive way), and it's a Ukrainian political thing since 2014. Interestingly enough, this address was previously spotted in another case this year, sending some small amounts of money to Warren Buffett: https://cryptonews.com/news/what-have-vladimir-putin-warren-buffett-and-justin-sun-got-i-5877.htm. It's probably nothing, but in case someone wants to dig in, it could be a clue.
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May 21, 2020, 09:52:51 PM |
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Seriously, i think we don't need to take this conversation more seriously because the news is somehow affecting the crypto market already and whoever sent the transaction possibly wants this to happen and the person that sent the transaction is definitely not Satoshi. However, bitcoin has already got some dedicated miners since 2009 which Laszlo Hanyecz was among them and i don't think anyone should believe the transaction was from Satoshi because of the coin was mine in the year 2009, if the transaction does not come from the well known Satoshi wallet.
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May 21, 2020, 10:24:37 PM |
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Seriously, i think we don't need to take this conversation more seriously because the news is somehow affecting the crypto market already and whoever sent the transaction possibly wants this to happen and the person that sent the transaction is definitely not Satoshi. However, bitcoin has already got some dedicated miners since 2009 which Laszlo Hanyecz was among them and i don't think anyone should believe the transaction was from Satoshi because of the coin was mine in the year 2009, if the transaction does not come from the well known Satoshi wallet.
This is having zero effect on the market. The ½ ing has dropped the diff. I have spent more then five years studying difficulty drops more then anything else to predict price. We are simply mirroring exactly what happen to litecoin last year after the lite coin 1/2ing both difficulty and price dropped like mad. LOOK AT LTC charts last year. July 2019 pre 1/2ing 100 usd plus difficulty 16.5 million August 2019 after ½ ing 60 usd plus difficulty 11..4 million we are simply doing a variation of that.
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May 22, 2020, 07:40:24 AM |
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Seriously, i think we don't need to take this conversation more seriously because the news is somehow affecting the crypto market already and whoever sent the transaction possibly wants this to happen and the person that sent the transaction is definitely not Satoshi. However, bitcoin has already got some dedicated miners since 2009 which Laszlo Hanyecz was among them and i don't think anyone should believe the transaction was from Satoshi because of the coin was mine in the year 2009, if the transaction does not come from the well known Satoshi wallet.
This is having zero effect on the market. The ½ ing has dropped the diff. I have spent more then five years studying difficulty drops more then anything else to predict price. We are simply mirroring exactly what happen to litecoin last year after the lite coin 1/2ing both difficulty and price dropped like mad. LOOK AT LTC charts last year. July 2019 pre 1/2ing 100 usd plus difficulty 16.5 million August 2019 after ½ ing 60 usd plus difficulty 11..4 million we are simply doing a variation of that. Oh ok. I make the previous statement cause i once hear that the bitcoins in Satoshi wallet may somehow affect price of bitcoin market but due to your respond i think the exit of some miners after bitcoin halving which will lead to difficulty reduction was the reason why some people believe the halving effect to have already priced in but if we judge base on the difficulty decrease that happen 2013 and 2018
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May 22, 2020, 01:13:38 PM |
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Seriously, i think we don't need to take this conversation more seriously because the news is somehow affecting the crypto market already and whoever sent the transaction possibly wants this to happen and the person that sent the transaction is definitely not Satoshi. However, bitcoin has already got some dedicated miners since 2009 which Laszlo Hanyecz was among them and i don't think anyone should believe the transaction was from Satoshi because of the coin was mine in the year 2009, if the transaction does not come from the well known Satoshi wallet.
This is having zero effect on the market. The ½ ing has dropped the diff. I have spent more then five years studying difficulty drops more then anything else to predict price. We are simply mirroring exactly what happen to litecoin last year after the lite coin 1/2ing both difficulty and price dropped like mad. LOOK AT LTC charts last year. July 2019 pre 1/2ing 100 usd plus difficulty 16.5 million August 2019 after ½ ing 60 usd plus difficulty 11..4 million we are simply doing a variation of that. Oh ok. I make the previous statement cause i once hear that the bitcoins in Satoshi wallet may somehow affect price of bitcoin market but due to your respond i think the exit of some miners after bitcoin halving which will lead to difficulty reduction was the reason why some people believe the halving effect to have already priced in but if we judge base on the difficulty decrease that happen 2013 and 2018 Tell you what. if 3 or 4 more low count blocks move. you would be correct I think people would panic. I wonder how many blocks from 1 to 10,000 can be cashed out. ie people have keys.
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May 22, 2020, 01:43:58 PM |
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We are now getting an unexpected market movement of the coins from the highest market price that is over reaching out over into 9.9k dollars now it is already low for over 8.8k which is unexpected market movement of the coins and if you are getting curious there are a large amount of the market investment already pulled out within a single day which makes a lot of conclusion and rumors about the market that Satoshi Nakamoto investment already fall back its money from the year of 2009. There are a lot of transactions noticed because of this kind of movement and we can observe this.
There are a lot of humor that the creator of the bitcoin will now show off it's personally again because of these a lot of address created and now most of the wallets are already have 0 balances.
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May 22, 2020, 03:56:43 PM |
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Seriously, i think we don't need to take this conversation more seriously because the news is somehow affecting the crypto market already and whoever sent the transaction possibly wants this to happen and the person that sent the transaction is definitely not Satoshi. However, bitcoin has already got some dedicated miners since 2009 which Laszlo Hanyecz was among them and i don't think anyone should believe the transaction was from Satoshi because of the coin was mine in the year 2009, if the transaction does not come from the well known Satoshi wallet.
This is having zero effect on the market. The ½ ing has dropped the diff. I have spent more then five years studying difficulty drops more then anything else to predict price. We are simply mirroring exactly what happen to litecoin last year after the lite coin 1/2ing both difficulty and price dropped like mad. LOOK AT LTC charts last year. July 2019 pre 1/2ing 100 usd plus difficulty 16.5 million August 2019 after ½ ing 60 usd plus difficulty 11..4 million we are simply doing a variation of that. Oh ok. I make the previous statement cause i once hear that the bitcoins in Satoshi wallet may somehow affect price of bitcoin market but due to your respond i think the exit of some miners after bitcoin halving which will lead to difficulty reduction was the reason why some people believe the halving effect to have already priced in but if we judge base on the difficulty decrease that happen 2013 and 2018 Tell you what. if 3 or 4 more low count blocks move. you would be correct I think people would panic. I wonder how many blocks from 1 to 10,000 can be cashed out. ie people have keys. It still good that my presumption is not correct though but i said exit of miners because theres a user i knew on this forum who's usually interested in everything that have to do with mining but he suddenly decided to join signature campaign now. Meanwhile, from the look of things the market demand slightly increase, any reason for that?
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May 22, 2020, 09:52:21 PM |
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For my one I am just gonna sit back and relax. I will no longer expect a serious loss here anyway. It's all too big for that, and as I said before, why would Satoshi destroy his masterpiece? I just can't imagine that after all these years of success!
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May 22, 2020, 11:14:51 PM |
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rofl, someone probably did a fat finger. (Is that even possible on Bitstamp?) let's cut the guy a bit of slack ha
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May 23, 2020, 06:55:14 AM |
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For my one I am just gonna sit back and relax. I will no longer expect a serious loss here anyway. It's all too big for that, and as I said before, why would Satoshi destroy his masterpiece? I just can't imagine that after all these years of success! It's just a mere transfer of coins, I don't think that's related to any sort of destruction
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May 23, 2020, 10:38:49 AM |
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For my one I am just gonna sit back and relax. I will no longer expect a serious loss here anyway. It's all too big for that, and as I said before, why would Satoshi destroy his masterpiece? I just can't imagine that after all these years of success! It's just a mere transfer of coins, I don't think that's related to any sort of destruction I think he is thinking if satoshi is going to sell of his coin in just one go, then the market would collapse. There's a lot of whales here in crypto industry so satoshi selling his bitcoin would not be a total destruction to all of us. I think it will dump the price but that would not certainly destroy the market. And it's a just movement! nothing is going to happen LOL, satoshi is a genius! if he want to sell it he will do it in a small fraction every day or even months. He will never dump his coin in one transaction.
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May 23, 2020, 11:43:38 AM |
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Are you sure this is his personal account? I'm not sure.
Read the whole post. No one knows if it is actually Satoshis coin or someone elses. If some says those coins for sure belongs to Satoshi, then that guy is just trying to spread FUDs. Might me one of those early miners, or maybe Satoshi himself, who knows.. -snip- But to express my guess, I think Satoshi would use his Bitcoins for charity at most! (if he still has control over it) I don't think Satoshi would want to harm his work in the slightest. -snip-
I highly doubt Satoshi would even touch his stash. If he starts moving his coins, people would start panicking.
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May 23, 2020, 02:40:06 PM |
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Some of these coins have been moved to Coinbase (through a least two intermediaries), so Coinbase might know. The rest (approx. BTC 40) are just sat in this address: 1BzN95J72BLBafwgZiZZvM9s7Wj2bxzA6m
As long as this was moved to Coinbase, then this can't be Satoshi who is believed to have been dead. Why will Satoshi want to review his identity now? And through a chsp means? I don't believe he is Satoshi.
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May 23, 2020, 02:43:48 PM |
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I think he is thinking if satoshi is going to sell of his coin in just one go, then the market would collapse. There's a lot of whales here in crypto industry so satoshi selling his bitcoin would not be a total destruction to all of us. I think it will dump the price but that would not certainly destroy the market. And it's a just movement! nothing is going to happen LOL, satoshi is a genius! if he want to sell it he will do it in a small fraction every day or even months. He will never dump his coin in one transaction. Yup, it won't destroy the market but I can see lots of bloodshed happening because, Satoshi
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May 23, 2020, 03:47:39 PM |
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I highly doubt Satoshi would even touch his stash. If he starts moving his coins, people would start panicking.
Huge panicking already happened and bitcoin actually dump for some hours , but it's started to recover the dump when the news of Satoshi Nakamoto didn't move Bitcoin started to spread on the internet and many users stopped to sell off their cryptos. But it's a good chance for the traders/institutions to buy bitcoin in deep.
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May 23, 2020, 05:07:21 PM |
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I know many of you’ll will be pissed at the title, but before you vent your ire just have a look at the tweet and then decide for yourself. According to the tweet the wallet was dormant since 2009, but suddenly today bitcoins stored in the wallet have been moved so can anyone study this and confirm if it’s actually satoshis wallet, or this is another fud attempt and we should not pay any attention to it?. Source: https://twitter.com/whale_alert/status/1263120977849978880They stated that it could be Satoshi's Wallet but it could also be one of the early adopter of Bitcoin who mostly forget about it for a very long time. But it could also be Satoshi moving some small Bitcoin due to financial crisis, I think if this is the real Satoshi it would take some time again before we see some old wallet moves another Bitcoin because it is just for a personal use and he/she doesn't really want to affect the price or make some price movement FUD/FOMO.
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