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2. The is more of a noob question (I don't deal double hand or split hand, this was my first time) The last Black Jack I played, I deal twice (simultaneously) $1 each hand, I can't remember value of each hand cards, I busted on one hand and I stand (16, I think) on the other hand, then the dealer also busted after Hit(ing) a few times. Then I won $2, shouldn't be $3 in total ? I think since the dealer busted too one hand should void and bet refunded while I should win the other hand ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Although I do understand that If I was dealing a single hand it wouldn't have mattered what the dealer's card value is as far as I've busted, but I just felt the dealer has a better advantage in situation to keep HIT(ing) even when slightly unnecessary since I've had one hand busted. No, it doesn't work like that. You'll be credited only 2$, because once your hand gets busted you lose the bet amount placed on that hand ie.1$. For the second hand, you will win ie.2$ as the dealer got busted. Void bets in Blackjack happen only when both the dealer and the player have the same total.
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Here is my review; 1. Registration: The registration was itch-free even though I had second thought about participant when I discovered that my phone number was requested in the sign up form, but I enter 00000 throughout and it worked (I don't think that should violate any rule though). My observation on the sign up page was that it is not SSL secured, which should be fixed. 2. Deposit: Although, the deposit was processed through a third party, It was very prompt, right after the first confirmation and I got a slightly higher USD value (I checked before and after confirmation with coinmarketcap). 3. Mobile Application (Android)The application runs very smoothly for an APK of 100MB and login in and navigation are in perfect order. Suggestion 1: It will be better to have deposit/withdrawl details generated within the app itself and it doesn't have to require redirecting to the phone browser. Suggestion 2: The player balance needs proper optimization, I played different games and I was having different balance, whenever I switch back to a previous game I'll get previous balance I had while playing there, but the balance is prompt on the "My Page". 4. GamesBlack Jack 21 (casino games): I love the way the buttons, chips, balance and everything are dispalyed, It took me a while to understand how to place my bets and what the two "PB" on each side of the table meant (playing simultaneously), at first I was clicking on the chips value then trying to click on deal, later I just decide to try what those PB are for, then I figured. I also played a couple of times on Juicy 7, Golden Stripe and Fortune Miner, I preferred fortune miner because that was the only one I won while playing (4 times in a row) ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) The game I found most interesting to me is the Spin and Go tournament, I like the whole idea behind the tournament. My Questions:1. The Black Jack 21 and host of other games that are provably fair, how can the fairness be checked ? I tried checking about but I couldn't find it. 2. The is more of a noob question (I don't deal double hand or split hand, this was my first time) The last Black Jack I played, I deal twice (simultaneously) $1 each hand, I can't remember value of each hand cards, I busted on one hand and I stand (16, I think) on the other hand, then the dealer also busted after Hit(ing) a few times. Then I won $2, shouldn't be $3 in total ? I think since the dealer busted too one hand should void and bet refunded while I should win the other hand ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Although I do understand that If I was dealing a single hand it wouldn't have mattered what the dealer's card value is as far as I've busted, but I just felt the dealer has a better advantage in situation to keep HIT(ing) even when slightly unnecessary since I've had one hand busted. I'm not a Pro Black Jacker player so pardon me If I have used the wrong terms is explaining myself, but I sure hope you got what I'm trying to imply sent you a 15$, i liked your review. check your pm and confirm please ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Regarding your question, akhjob answered you ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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June 04, 2020, 11:40:58 AM |
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sent you a 15$, i liked your review. check your pm and confirm please ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Regarding your question, akhjob answered you ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Received, thank you ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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June 04, 2020, 03:46:05 PM |
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You did not answered the provably fair part ? Are all games on your platform, provably fair. If yes please provide a description of how it works ?
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June 05, 2020, 05:12:50 PM |
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Thanks to the moderator i was able to get my previous thread undeleted.
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Skins are actually a business model that has been growing quite a bit for some years, it was stagnant, in terms of credibility, but the business model continued, in reality so many casinos came out, which then simply disappeared, especially at the end of the last decade. Now, it is not very frequent to find an associate to an important network that has a website like yours, in reality it seems very deficient, the other thing I see is that it does not appear yet, "officially" because I do not see it in the main list from GGpoker. Actually at least I do not see something that says or shows that it is on the GGpoker network and because of that is that some initially launch a "casino" and nowhere do they highlight the network to which it belongs. ...///... I am not really positive how skins work, does this mean that I could play through 7XL, and be playing against individuals who are playing through GGpoker? ...///...
Indeed it is, but it is very difficult for the network to be tricked, in fact skin is very common, you would be surprised to know that some of the most important traditional casinos are really skins. For example Bwin is part of the PartyPoker network. In other words you can be playing with the Bwin skin but your opponent, that is, another player is in Partypoker. In reality, there are few casinos that are not associated with a global brand network.
Anyway, it is not clear to me about the deposit in BTC, you can expand this information with a screenshot, how many users have captured since its opening, some promotion, is that you lean a lot on what GGpoker brand, when you really should start making big Your brand.
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June 06, 2020, 02:04:02 AM |
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Thanks to the moderator i was able to get my previous thread undeleted.
Glad I was able to point you in the right direction. It definitely felt like an oversight. Thanks for your previous response on the possibility of collusion with skins, unfortunately I can't quote it and bring it here for posterity. I might give this a go, if I do I'll pop back in and drop a review of my experience as long as I find a decent tourney schedule when I'm available. Pretty much I just want sites to play on with no hassle for a Canadian who wants to make a straight crypto deposit and withdrawal, without a middleman. Which as I as typing this and looking up reviews seems it may be a problem, as I just read a review on stating this is unavailable for Canadians. So I don't know if that is an old review or what but like I said I prefer a no hassle or potential hassle experience.
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June 06, 2020, 08:03:46 AM |
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You did not answered the provably fair part ? Are all games on your platform, provably fair. If yes please provide a description of how it works ?
Well I have to assume there is something fishy going on as you have knowingly avoided provably fairness of your games two times.
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June 06, 2020, 09:26:28 AM |
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You did not answered the provably fair part ? Are all games on your platform, provably fair. If yes please provide a description of how it works ?
Well I have to assume there is something fishy going on as you have knowingly avoided provably fairness of your games two times.This thread was deleted, i haven't noticed your question: read the announcement thread, the casino games are hosted by Ezugi and evolution gaming, top 2 game providers in the world. The poker engine is being approved by the WSOP and of course by BMM Testlabs. BMM Testlabs is the longest established and most experienced private independent gaming testing laboratory in the world You can read the certificate here: https://en.ggpoker.com/random-number-generator/Is that answering your questions? Please edit your annoying red text.
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June 06, 2020, 09:30:23 AM |
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Thanks to the moderator i was able to get my previous thread undeleted.
Glad I was able to point you in the right direction. It definitely felt like an oversight. Thanks for your previous response on the possibility of collusion with skins, unfortunately I can't quote it and bring it here for posterity. I might give this a go, if I do I'll pop back in and drop a review of my experience as long as I find a decent tourney schedule when I'm available. Pretty much I just want sites to play on with no hassle for a Canadian who wants to make a straight crypto deposit and withdrawal, without a middleman. Which as I as typing this and looking up reviews seems it may be a problem, as I just read a review on stating this is unavailable for Canadians. So I don't know if that is an old review or what but like I said I prefer a no hassle or potential hassle experience. Hey, As a casino operator i know the traffic coming from canada is a top notch ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) in 7XL you can play from Canada and withdraw your funds anytime - no problem!
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June 06, 2020, 11:10:26 AM |
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You did not answered the provably fair part ? Are all games on your platform, provably fair. If yes please provide a description of how it works ?
Well I have to assume there is something fishy going on as you have knowingly avoided provably fairness of your games two times.This thread was deleted, i haven't noticed your question: read the announcement thread, the casino games are hosted by Ezugi and evolution gaming, top 2 game providers in the world. The poker engine is being approved by the WSOP and of course by BMM Testlabs. BMM Testlabs is the longest established and most experienced private independent gaming testing laboratory in the world You can read the certificate here: https://en.ggpoker.com/random-number-generator/Is that answering your questions? Please edit your annoying red text. There is no mention of either WSOP or BMM Testlabs on your webiste. Chrome is showing ''Not secure'' when I am trying to access your website, Windows is showing warning before Installation. I might be over skeptical but please address these issues. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FjzDd0Yy%2Ffo.png&t=665&c=qXEao2pFyNHicg)
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June 06, 2020, 11:31:51 AM |
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You did not answered the provably fair part ? Are all games on your platform, provably fair. If yes please provide a description of how it works ?
Well I have to assume there is something fishy going on as you have knowingly avoided provably fairness of your games two times.This thread was deleted, i haven't noticed your question: read the announcement thread, the casino games are hosted by Ezugi and evolution gaming, top 2 game providers in the world. The poker engine is being approved by the WSOP and of course by BMM Testlabs. BMM Testlabs is the longest established and most experienced private independent gaming testing laboratory in the world You can read the certificate here: https://en.ggpoker.com/random-number-generator/Is that answering your questions? Please edit your annoying red text. There is no mention of either WSOP or BMM Testlabs on your webiste. Chrome is showing ''Not secure'' when I am trying to access your website, Windows is showing warning before Installation. I might be over skeptical but please address these issues. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FjzDd0Yy%2Ffo.png&t=665&c=qXEao2pFyNHicg) 7XL is a skin operating under GGPOKER, we don't have access to your funds and we cant manipulate the game. GGpoker is the HQ and also the supplier of the poker platform, therefore they are running all the tests like i linked you in: https://en.ggpoker.com/random-number-generator/7XL made for bitcoin users with no KYC requirements at all. the website is made all for registration therefore SSL is not really required. There is no other way to register.
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June 06, 2020, 11:36:27 AM |
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There is no mention of either WSOP or BMM Testlabs on your webiste. Chrome is showing ''Not secure'' when I am trying to access your website, Windows is showing warning before Installation. I might be over skeptical but please address these issues.
have you virus scanned?, I have Already did https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/5a282b8b2e4905cc0ee14f729df7e4eae4694fbd4ae7c4839f5234a92a7cda9e/detectionSeems fine, no malware or malicious detected. I agree about SSL you are mentioned.
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June 06, 2020, 11:45:53 AM |
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I don't agree on the way he accusing me with BIG RED TEXT and stating that it seems fishy to him the fairness of the game when he could easily read it on the website.
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Well I do not need your authentication at all for selecting font size and color, I think I have spent enough time here to know how to write (Also its a fact that you have ignored the question on two occasions). Its so easy to get cheated by poker platform. Just have a look: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5243049.0;topicseenNow Lets come back to original questions: 1) Its a fact that there was no mention of provably fair on your website which is 7xl.co, not ggpoker and Chrome and Windows are giving me warning before accessing your website and software and I am not going to install any software which may hack into my system (specially harmful for crypto users).2) You said you have no control over users fund so how can you assure us about timely cash outs and unnecessary confiscation of funds. 3) How do you guys preventing collusion because its a big problem in online poker specially in crpto poker rooms as no kyc is there.
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June 06, 2020, 03:25:13 PM |
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Well I do not need your authentication at all for selecting font size and color, I think I have spent enough time here to know how to write (Also its a fact that you have ignored the question on two occasions). Its so easy to get cheated by poker platform. Just have a look: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5243049.0;topicseenNow Lets come back to original questions: 1) Its a fact that there was no mention of provably fair on your website which is 7xl.co, not ggpoker and Chrome and Windows are giving me warning before accessing your website and software and I am not going to install any software which may hack into my system (specially harmful for crypto users).2) You said you have no control over users fund so how can you assure us about timely cash outs and unnecessary confiscation of funds. 3) How do you guys preventing collusion because its a big problem in online poker specially in crpto poker rooms as no kyc is there. Can you please stop trolling? I explained and answered you 600000000 times, if you don't understand the answer, google search it. 1) 7XL is a skin of GGPOKER made especially for bitcoin users. You can use a virus scan like the gentleman 'DroomieChikito' did in here: https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/5a282b8b2e4905cc0ee14f729df7e4eae4694fbd4ae7c4839f5234a92a7cda9e/detection if you don't want to install, simply dont. We are using the same software as GGpoker therefore you can check the lab test for RNG in here: https://en.ggpoker.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/15/2020/02/bmm-test-cert_ggpoker-online-poker.gif2) Once a player making a withdraw, the system approves the withdraw automatically and it take no longer than 24hour, usually within a mins. 3) what collusion ?!
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June 06, 2020, 03:32:11 PM |
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Well I do not need your authentication at all for selecting font size and color, I think I have spent enough time here to know how to write (Also its a fact that you have ignored the question on two occasions). Its so easy to get cheated by poker platform. Just have a look: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5243049.0;topicseenNow Lets come back to original questions: 1) Its a fact that there was no mention of provably fair on your website which is 7xl.co, not ggpoker and Chrome and Windows are giving me warning before accessing your website and software and I am not going to install any software which may hack into my system (specially harmful for crypto users).2) You said you have no control over users fund so how can you assure us about timely cash outs and unnecessary confiscation of funds. 3) How do you guys preventing collusion because its a big problem in online poker specially in crpto poker rooms as no kyc is there. Can you please stop trolling? I explained and answered you 600000000 times, if you don't understand the answer, google search it. 1) 7XL is a skin of GGPOKER made especially for bitcoin users. You can use a virus scan like the gentleman 'DroomieChikito' did in here: https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/5a282b8b2e4905cc0ee14f729df7e4eae4694fbd4ae7c4839f5234a92a7cda9e/detection if you don't want to install, simply dont. We are using the same software as GGpoker therefore you can check the lab test for RNG in here: https://en.ggpoker.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/15/2020/02/bmm-test-cert_ggpoker-online-poker.gif2) Once a player making a withdraw, the system approves the withdraw automatically and it take no longer than 24hour, usually within a mins. 3) what collusion ?! How do you prevent group or players or multi accounts in the same table
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Well I do not need your authentication at all for selecting font size and color, I think I have spent enough time here to know how to write (Also its a fact that you have ignored the question on two occasions). Its so easy to get cheated by poker platform. Just have a look: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5243049.0;topicseenNow Lets come back to original questions: 1) Its a fact that there was no mention of provably fair on your website which is 7xl.co, not ggpoker and Chrome and Windows are giving me warning before accessing your website and software and I am not going to install any software which may hack into my system (specially harmful for crypto users).2) You said you have no control over users fund so how can you assure us about timely cash outs and unnecessary confiscation of funds. 3) How do you guys preventing collusion because its a big problem in online poker specially in crpto poker rooms as no kyc is there. Can you please stop trolling? I explained and answered you 600000000 times, if you don't understand the answer, google search it. 1) 7XL is a skin of GGPOKER made especially for bitcoin users. You can use a virus scan like the gentleman 'DroomieChikito' did in here: https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/5a282b8b2e4905cc0ee14f729df7e4eae4694fbd4ae7c4839f5234a92a7cda9e/detection if you don't want to install, simply dont. We are using the same software as GGpoker therefore you can check the lab test for RNG in here: https://en.ggpoker.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/15/2020/02/bmm-test-cert_ggpoker-online-poker.gif2) Once a player making a withdraw, the system approves the withdraw automatically and it take no longer than 24hour, usually within a mins. 3) what collusion ?! How do you prevent group or players or multi accounts in the same table Thank you for asking that, It is impossible to play in the same table with your friends. We random the table sitting, you simply don't choose a table, we choose for you. We also have world class anti fraud team, we really experience in finding multi accounts in the same table even if somehow we missed it.
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June 06, 2020, 10:57:30 PM |
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May you please explain a bit more how rakeback works? Is it a flat 30% rakeback or is it a progressive rakeback( meaning it grows with volume played) ? What about that 10% weekly? Is it alreadyincluded in previuosly mentioned 30% or is it added to it?
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June 07, 2020, 03:23:15 PM |
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Hello! Game Community.
The KYC has nothing to do with collusion, at least it does not stop this bad practice, in any type of betting, collusion is the agreement between two people or more to allow gambling advantages, so complicated like betting, folding, etc. In fact, collusion is something that is difficult to demonstrate promptly, so a study must be done long term of the accounts involved.
When a site bans accounts for collusion it does not even notify or request any document, it really does not matter if they are the same person or not, because their game attitude is a fault or cheat.
It really is very difficult for the average player to be able to violate the security of these recognized companies, usually the investment of time and money to try to play with two accounts or more by a group of people is done in high stakes.
Now, what many do not know is that many casinos allow play multiple players from the same IP. This you can notify it or not, in this case they do not ask you for any additional information. The reason is very simple, its basic security does not allow you to play at a cash, sit & go table.
In conclusion, if you play tournaments this situation is very difficult to happen, in the case of cash tables, the system blocks IPs and if you use VPN it does not serve. But the best security is always yourself, if you play cash, it is very easy after a few minutes to realize the players are at least giving benefits in their way of playing.
The collusion.
_______ Hi, 7XL The image is important, not only the visual or the product itself, but everything around it, and although an SSL on a page that is informative and used to download "can be" ignored, as a rule if a site Betting is presented with a page like this, perhaps not to invest about $ 500 per year, it makes you think how responsible they are, I repeat I do not judge you, because it can be temporary and that you would solve in a few months or weeks, but having http: / /7xl.co/registration/ without SSL cannot be ignored.
Now the above does not judge your business intention, however I wish you the best and that you become another healthy alternative for the ecosystems of the bets.
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