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June 06, 2020, 09:20:50 PM
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I don't necessarily agree with you that it is all probability, there are clearly events that influence and the market, and there are frequently repeating patterns that can be used to your advantage.

You could definitely beat the odds with knowledge while trading, which is definitely not possible if it was all based on odds. Remember, more than half of retail traders lose money, while experts can win in nearly any market—that doesn't sound like it's probabilistic to me.

I agree with you point but even but nonetheless, i believe every traders knows about how even technical analysis from veteran traders do end up going to south and entirely different from what they predicted. Using the market statistics and data from the charts can only take you so far but then you have to follow some blind faith often atimes and that is the risky aspect of digital assets trading
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June 06, 2020, 11:41:52 PM
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We shouldn't depend on probable outcomes. Either put your whole time in trade to understand everything or be a big investor for this, you should be quite lucky. You know that any single top coin never dumps loneliness so a pair of prices move slowly. You can earn from it, between a few different price rates. Select any top coin and earn it easily.
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June 09, 2020, 04:24:00 AM
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We shouldn't depend on probable outcomes. Either put your whole time in trade to understand everything or be a big investor for this, you should be quite lucky. You know that any single top coin never dumps loneliness so a pair of prices move slowly. You can earn from it, between a few different price rates. Select any top coin and earn it easily.

When you use "lucky" than it's all about probabilities, you can be lucky or unlucky! And in trading you can't run away from unexpected turns that market makes, at least not every time. When it's based on that it's advisable to have some backup plan, like what you are going to do if price makes a turn and go down instead going up as you wanted! It's why I always say how important is to choose a right coin to trade with, you can't believe that every coin will recover after dump, that can do just some coins.
Ripple and eos are top coins (in top 10), I never traded with ripple and eos, and I don't ever plan to do that! This is an example of course, not every top coin is a good coin!

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June 09, 2020, 04:51:12 PM
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I never traded with ripple and eos, and I don't ever plan to do that! This is an example of course, not every top coin is a good coin!

That largely depends on your personal preferences

For example, it is unlikely I will ever have anything to do with Ripple because it is essentially a private currency issued by a private entity (Ripple Labs), with the implication being that once the government cracks down on them for real, you can kiss your money goodbye. On the other hand, EOS seems to be a real deal, which is at least worth looking into. I don't know how you can discard it for the sole reason "not every top coin is a good coin"

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June 10, 2020, 12:55:53 AM
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A lot of people do not want agree that surviving in the market today requires every trader to come to terms that they are trading on probability and at every moment of the trade there are series of different possible outcomes.

As a trader, the best you can do is find the most likely scenario based on the data you have and understanding the risk involved too.
Choose the best probable outcomes that favors you to avoid stories as rekt.

I do agreed that trading is based on probability, because if not no one can able to get profit for sure on it.
But since it is one of the opportunity many of the community who get involved themselves into cryptocurrency
got their chances to earn a lot though sometime and most of the time they faced risk on it also.
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June 10, 2020, 03:15:30 AM
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I agree with trading based on probability, therefore we must always conduct market analysis on a regular basis. The more often we do
analysis, the success rate is also higher. Without analyzing we trade like gambling, because trading is on probability then the movement
can go up or down suddenly.

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June 10, 2020, 03:52:58 AM
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I agree with trading based on probability, therefore we must always conduct market analysis on a regular basis. The more often we do
analysis, the success rate is also higher. Without analyzing we trade like gambling, because trading is on probability then the movement
can go up or down suddenly.
Agree! I like the way you said: "without analyzing we trade like gambling". It's so true guys, traders should know they are investing not gambling. Investing without knowledge is gambling, therefore, learn the difference! Instead of spending time seeking for trading signal groups, bots, tricks, you should spend time to learn the fundamental knowledge and skills. That helps you in the long run!

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June 10, 2020, 05:03:11 AM
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I agree with trading based on probability, therefore we must always conduct market analysis on a regular basis. The more often we do
analysis, the success rate is also higher. Without analyzing we trade like gambling, because trading is on probability then the movement
can go up or down suddenly.
Agree! I like the way you said: "without analyzing we trade like gambling". It's so true guys, traders should know they are investing not gambling. Investing without knowledge is gambling, therefore, learn the difference! Instead of spending time seeking for trading signal groups, bots, tricks, you should spend time to learn the fundamental knowledge and skills. That helps you in the long run!

with or without analysis , trading will still be like gambling because analysis can sometimes fail you . trading is also different from investing  (that is why its already called trading lol )  . gambling is also different but both investing and trading have the characteristic of what you experience when you play gambling . bots , tips and tricks , and others that you mentioned above are also useful to help your trades .  so its not that bad if you seek for them aside of building a skill and knowledge on trading
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June 10, 2020, 05:12:47 AM
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A lot of people do not want agree that surviving in the market today requires every trader to come to terms that they are trading on probability and at every moment of the trade there are series of different possible outcomes.

I don't totally agree with your reasoning as not on all occasion this can be observed exactly, but understandable while you could have done everything humanly possible to analyze the market, it can still turnout to be unprofitable as commonly especially in the market scenario that negative event or news causes Fud among the community like the previous that involving the US government (president Donald Trump) publicly coming out to discredit bitcoin as a currency that had an impact on the market dumping the price heavily.

Apart from cases like this (as explained above), we can testify to the market been easily predicted by professional traders using technical analysis. The probability is present in the market but doesn't apply in all situation.

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June 10, 2020, 05:39:32 AM
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that's because most of the traders aim to get profits quickly. however, now there are very many traders who avoid such things by having popular coins. without even doing extensive research, we know that such coins are safe enough to hold in the long run. because popular coins have the highest possibility.

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June 10, 2020, 05:46:12 AM
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that's because most of the traders aim to get profits quickly. however, now there are very many traders who avoid such things by having popular coins. without even doing extensive research, we know that such coins are safe enough to hold in the long run. because popular coins have the highest possibility.
Highest possibility of what? Profit? The only benefits that I saw on investing in famous coin like ETH and XRP are you can guarantee enough liquidity and stability of the project. But in terms of profitability I believe you can't have the most profit by investing on that coin unless you do leverage trading but if you do casual trading like buying>holding >selling without leverage then I believe investing on startup project with a good objective can give you the highest profit.

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June 10, 2020, 05:54:45 AM
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I do agreed that trading is based on probability, because if not no one can able to get profit for sure on it.
But since it is one of the opportunity many of the community who get involved themselves into cryptocurrency
got their chances to earn a lot though sometime and most of the time they faced risk on it also.

To make a profit from trading, we need to have skills by learning the trading lesson from many sources. The more lesson we can learn, the higher chances for us to make a profit, so you always need to learn more about trading. If you can improve your skills by reading and practice the lesson, you will have the opportunity to increase the probability so that it will increase the chance to make a profit too. You do not need to worry if your probability is not higher because if you can analyze the market movements, you will found that there is a little sign for you to trade and make a profit even for a small profit.

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June 11, 2020, 12:51:44 PM
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I agree with trading based on probability, therefore we must always conduct market analysis on a regular basis. The more often we do
analysis, the success rate is also higher. Without analyzing we trade like gambling, because trading is on probability then the movement
can go up or down suddenly.

It can be sudden in out eyes but it has already been programmed to happen and if our analysis is good, then we will see it. Trading though is a probable chance but with good analysis, we can see where the probability will fall to. Trading or movement don't just take a good analysis by surprise most times.
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June 11, 2020, 01:19:26 PM
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Every choice we make in life is based on probability.
For example when you set up a business. There is a probability that it may succeed or not. Everything involving making more money is about risk taking and so trading should not be any different.

What one needs to learn is risk management so that in case things don't work in their favor, they won't get their money, portfolio or investment swept off clean.

The only certain and permanent thing here in the world is "change".

Probability depends on the decisions that you've made and the factors that can affect to it. Just like in trading, you need to become prepared and strategic in making your decisions and actions, you need basis, and that basis is the market. You need to consider the probability because that includes risk in trading.

The results of your trading is never that safe depending on how you predict the market. Risk management is right, every one needs to understand and learn that to have a more safety trading transactions. Keeping yourself in track will surely let you have a spare amount of assets during losses.

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June 11, 2020, 11:46:41 PM
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I agree with trading based on probability, therefore we must always conduct market analysis on a regular basis. The more often we do
analysis, the success rate is also higher. Without analyzing we trade like gambling, because trading is on probability then the movement
can go up or down suddenly.

It can be sudden in out eyes but it has already been programmed to happen and if our analysis is good, then we will see it. Trading though is a probable chance but with good analysis, we can see where the probability will fall to. Trading or movement don't just take a good analysis by surprise most times.
Trading with good analysis will most likely to end up successfully compared to gambling which we can't predict its probability. Trading is based on probability of course because we worked for it with our own special strategies and developed skills so it can be done with our expected probability.

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June 12, 2020, 08:47:51 AM
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I agree with trading based on probability, therefore we must always conduct market analysis on a regular basis. The more often we do
analysis, the success rate is also higher. Without analyzing we trade like gambling, because trading is on probability then the movement
can go up or down suddenly.

It can be sudden in out eyes but it has already been programmed to happen and if our analysis is good, then we will see it. Trading though is a probable chance but with good analysis, we can see where the probability will fall to. Trading or movement don't just take a good analysis by surprise most times.
Trading with good analysis will most likely to end up successfully compared to gambling which we can't predict its probability. Trading is based on probability of course because we worked for it with our own special strategies and developed skills so it can be done with our expected probability.
yes, because of course trading and gambling strategies for me really have a different way, and every trader must have an analysis strategy in every trader to be able to produce maximum profits, so the probability of trading analysis strategy is very important for every trader who wants to get the maximum profit of course.

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June 12, 2020, 08:53:47 AM
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Well, by extension, everything about life is based on probability because no one actually knows what tomorrow holds. If anyone can clearly tell the future, then that person holds a supernatural power and won't be living on guesses and probability. Trading is business and business is life. So, it isn't farfetched to say traders indulge probability and guess work while trading. There is no certainty to it. However, to navigate that mucky waters of probability, most traders rely on Technical Analysis (TA) as a compass, which is preferable to news for me. And to that end I say, yes, trading is probability.

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June 12, 2020, 01:14:42 PM
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We must attempt to maintain adequate capital during losses With less capital the danger is higher and therefore the amount of risk can't be reduced so as to trade you would like to plan accordingly. Trading doesn't depend upon knowledge and knowledge The market must be understood before the transaction and risk management must be properly determined Business usually depends on the market.
Money management matters in this kind of industry if you are into trading business you need to analyze the market very well,
the more deeper you understand the higher chance of surviving.
It's your good judgement and assessment that will allow you to compensate from this business, as the this industries depends
from how traders and investors reacts from every situations.

Well, by extension, everything about life is based on probability because no one actually knows what tomorrow holds. If anyone can clearly tell the future, then that person holds a supernatural power and won't be living on guesses and probability. Trading is business and business is life. So, it isn't farfetched to say traders indulge probability and guess work while trading. There is no certainty to it. However, to navigate that mucky waters of probability, most traders rely on Technical Analysis (TA) as a compass, which is preferable to news for me. And to that end I say, yes, trading is probability.

Good point, no one knows what market will bring but having good understanding gives you higher chances to anticipate what will
be the next market trends, you can position your investment and wait for the execution.

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June 30, 2020, 10:41:02 PM
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I agree with trading based on probability, therefore we must always conduct market analysis on a regular basis. The more often we do
analysis, the success rate is also higher. Without analyzing we trade like gambling, because trading is on probability then the movement
can go up or down suddenly.

It can be sudden in out eyes but it has already been programmed to happen and if our analysis is good, then we will see it. Trading though is a probable chance but with good analysis, we can see where the probability will fall to. Trading or movement don't just take a good analysis by surprise most times.

I want to say that most times trade charts and price movements are not programmed to happen; but instead it can be set up to happenl; by conjuring couple of catalyst to the market which can be a bad news, a disagreement or even sec news which destabilize traders emotion and force the weak hands to dump so the strong can take advantage.

Irrespective of the price movement, or inability to predict correctly always, becoming a good analysis always help.
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I want to say that most times trade charts and price movements are not programmed to happen; but instead it can be set up to happenl; by conjuring couple of catalyst to the market which can be a bad news, a disagreement or even sec news which destabilize traders emotion and force the weak hands to dump so the strong can take advantage.

Irrespective of the price movement, or inability to predict correctly always, becoming a good analysis always help.
Agree! The coins value particularly and the market can't be programmed to change. However, it can be manipulated by the effects of external factors. For example, people who wanna change a coins value will push information about it on social media platforms. Whales can do panic and huge sell or buy in minutes to increase the trading volume and then dump the coins.. etc. A lot of ways to influence a coins value by influencing external factors. Therefore, it's good to know for your own benefit!

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