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July 13, 2020, 10:26:11 PM
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and tell them to have social distancing between the other. But it is better to suggest the people wear a mask without any exception still.

The social distancing plus masks plus good ventilation system (address the post above)  would be god way to cope the viral aerosol spreading  inside casino, but again only the top rated ones have enough room to  spread the distance between  the playing tables and slots.  However many casino are  trying to utilize the available space as much as possible.
As General Quarantine had been lifted and proceeded to Modified General quarantine where others had already open establishment for entertainment like here in our place but it is not a guarantee that virus willg going to stop its transmission. The virus has incredibly easy to transmit and is also an airborne diseases as what the scientist had been told.

Getting fun is good but of course health should not get compromised. This is why I think it is still need not to open establishment like this. It should start first how losses be recovered and not by gambling to which it could lead to more losses instead.

They had been opened since government cant really go that long in terms of economic matter knowing that these platforms are one of the biggest contributor when it comes to tax.
How long they should be closed? Its hard for them to make such decision but they dont have any choice but to re-open up businesses.

We know the risk on getting infected thats why its not really worth the risk to go into public places and even they do impose strict social distancing compliance.
Im not really that too comfortable to play into this situation.

If you do really eager to play then do your best not to be infected.
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July 13, 2020, 10:36:59 PM
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Some people are simply unable to accept the truth, it amazes me that some people are still denying the existence of the virus and claiming this as the reason why they do not take precautions, it is as if they do not see all the people at the hospitals that are there suffering because of this disease and unfortunately it is because of them that this crisis cannot be solved in a more swift manner and affects all of us that are willing to take the precautions so the economy and many different businesses, including casinos, can remain open.

Why should people be massively afraid of the coronavirus? Because it is being reported in all the world's media?
If I am healthy and want to visit a casino, and the casino Owners are ready to ensure my safety, why can't I do it?
In our world, there are hundreds of different diseases and we are constantly at risk of catching them, but this does not mean that we all have to stay at home.
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July 14, 2020, 01:17:40 AM
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I also agree with this decision. It's time to let businesses work. The world can't *stay at home* forever, otherwise everyone is going to die from the disease or from the economic consequences.
Who is too afraid to go in public still have the choice to not do this, but at least let other people work. Remember that casino industry employs a lot of people and these people need this industry working to survive.

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July 14, 2020, 06:42:17 AM
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and tell them to have social distancing between the other. But it is better to suggest the people wear a mask without any exception still.

The social distancing plus masks plus good ventilation system (address the post above)  would be god way to cope the viral aerosol spreading  inside casino, but again only the top rated ones have enough room to  spread the distance between  the playing tables and slots.  However many casino are  trying to utilize the available space as much as possible.
It is what suggested by the government. Wearing masks and social distancing between the table and the player can help the spreading of the virus. But we don't know if all of the casinos apply those protocols since I don't think that the government will interfere and comes to the casino place. We can hope that the casino uses that way and not just because of the money purpose.

The small casino can apply that too, but they need to reduce the number of the table because they should limit the number of people who come to that place. If the casino succeeds with that, I am sure the government will appreciate their work, and perhaps use that casino as the best model that every casino should follow.

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July 14, 2020, 07:25:49 AM
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and tell them to have social distancing between the other. But it is better to suggest the people wear a mask without any exception still.

The social distancing plus masks plus good ventilation system (address the post above)  would be god way to cope the viral aerosol spreading  inside casino, but again only the top rated ones have enough room to  spread the distance between  the playing tables and slots.  However many casino are  trying to utilize the available space as much as possible.
It is what suggested by the government. Wearing masks and social distancing between the table and the player can help the spreading of the virus. But we don't know if all of the casinos apply those protocols since I don't think that the government will interfere and comes to the casino place. We can hope that the casino uses that way and not just because of the money purpose.

The small casino can apply that too, but they need to reduce the number of the table because they should limit the number of people who come to that place. If the casino succeeds with that, I am sure the government will appreciate their work, and perhaps use that casino as the best model that every casino should follow.

I guess every casinos as long as they have the licensed and they follow the protocol has to be allowed to operate, the resumption of businesses especially for casinos are for everyone as the small ones are the ones who suffers the most, so the government should not choose.

Maybe the attention was only centered with Las Vegas Casinos since they are the most popular, biggest tax contributor but everyone must be given a chance to start earning again. I'm sure the model will be the same for all casinos as they have the same operation, social distancing and wearing of mask are too basic ,so I don't think it will not be followed easily.

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July 14, 2020, 01:01:38 PM
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Furthermore flights to Las Vegas are already full, and people are coming in large numbers to play out there, hence I’m sincerely praying that no one gets infected while playing out there.

Our stupid, unnecessary moves is going to kill us. For a gambler it's not something that he must do, but still they have to go just because they feel the luxury. No one is safe until we have a vaccine.

Imagine how would one feel if they caught the virus because they were too stupid to go the casino and got infected from there.

I agree. Gamblers that will choose to get into casinos in Las Vegas will surely die out of stupidity knowing that covid-19 pandemic is still on and having a mass gathering would just create commotion and the spread of the virus will be just a snap of the finger. Although they were thinking to open up the casinos for the sake of their economy, still it is an inappropriate action to do because we are still not safe since there is still no vaccine proven to kill the virus although there is already a vaccine released by Russia that have already done its final stage of trial, it will be still on a process until once proven effective to kill the virus.

It will be okay to open up casinos if they will assure that they will be just operating on 30-50% capacity to further observe social distancing and strictly implement precautionary measures like sanitation to prevent the spread of virus. But still it will be irrelevant to get into casinos at times like this because it is still too dangerous to get outside because of the infectious disease. If a gambler do really want to play gambling, there are online gambling sites to choose with which can provide a lot more convenient gaming experience with the assurance of being safe at home. Let us just set aside the thought of going into casinos for a while until such time that the vaccine is discovered to end this pandemic.

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July 14, 2020, 01:29:04 PM
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I guess every casinos as long as they have the licensed and they follow the protocol has to be allowed to operate, the resumption of businesses especially for casinos are for everyone as the small ones are the ones who suffers the most, so the government should not choose.

Maybe the attention was only centered with Las Vegas Casinos since they are the most popular, biggest tax contributor but everyone must be given a chance to start earning again. I'm sure the model will be the same for all casinos as they have the same operation, social distancing and wearing of mask are too basic ,so I don't think it will not be followed easily.

The problem is that they are not following the social distancing norms. From the news reports, I could understand that a disproportionate number of casino workers got infected during the last 2-3 weeks. IMO, the government should not allow the casinos to operate anymore. At least until there is a dip in the number of new infections. This is not the right time to allow non-essential services.
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July 14, 2020, 01:37:47 PM
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I guess every casinos as long as they have the licensed and they follow the protocol has to be allowed to operate, the resumption of businesses especially for casinos are for everyone as the small ones are the ones who suffers the most, so the government should not choose.

Maybe the attention was only centered with Las Vegas Casinos since they are the most popular, biggest tax contributor but everyone must be given a chance to start earning again. I'm sure the model will be the same for all casinos as they have the same operation, social distancing and wearing of mask are too basic ,so I don't think it will not be followed easily.

The problem is that they are not following the social distancing norms. From the news reports, I could understand that a disproportionate number of casino workers got infected during the last 2-3 weeks. IMO, the government should not allow the casinos to operate anymore. At least until there is a dip in the number of new infections. This is not the right time to allow non-essential services.

They need to open so that the economy will start to flow again. Strict implementation of the safety guidelines is the best way to minimize risk of infection. Its easy to implement social distancing in casino if management are really serious about it. They should limit too the number of players inside the casino and requires every player to undergo swab test before they enter the casino. Simply no clear test result equals no entry.

The problem was casino owners are too greedy about profit and let there customers do what they want as long as they are giving profit to the casino.

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July 14, 2020, 05:32:45 PM
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Look what’s going on inside this casino. Some visitors  wear masks but the most ( in the background) don’t have it on the faces. And that’s when scientists warn of the danger of airborne  viral particles wandering around.


It seems to me that there is nothing worse than sitting in a room in a mask, which creates a favorable atmosphere for the reproduction of bacteria when you breathe into it. It’s hard to breathe in a mask, which means that sometimes people’s charter will take it off for a few seconds, spreading the bacteria indoors. It is obvious that the casino will be forced to quarantine after the first detected case of infection in their premises.
I wonder if they will hide it.

You must change the mask that covers you face every two hours. It is a small price to pay for your health. As to the indoors atmosphere casino must care of it and have good ventilation system, taking ( through the filters) the clean and fresh air from the outside   and  pulling out the breathed air. The  problem is only the top class casinos can afford such ventilation. The second-rate places don't have it.

I have many friends who work in stores, and I also know what happens to doctors in hospitals. No one wears masks as prescribed by WHO. To the same volume, who will monitor whether the guests of the casino comply with these rules? I don’t think that everyone will come with a pack of masks and will change them every two hours during their entire time, which may take 2-8 hours. People around the world violate the rules of wearing masks and the rules of hygiene, if casino will distribute masks and track each client reminding him of the need to change his mask or wash his hands, this can affect the situation. Otherwise, the risk is huge.

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July 14, 2020, 07:48:00 PM
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They should limit too the number of players inside the casino and requires every player to undergo swab test before they enter the casino. Simply no clear test result equals no entry.

The number of allowed people is surely implemented but I don't think to have the tests result as a requirement will be imposed. Not all people are encouraged to undergo the Swab test unless they feel the symptoms, to save supplies and cost. And for the cost, people are the ones paying for it so I doubt they will undergo that just for the purpose to play on casinos.

I'm with that idea honestly to ensure every gambler is cleared from the virus. However, that kind of requirement might discourage gamblers to play there since it's too much for a hassle especially on a healthy person. But hopefully, it will be considered for the sake of all people there, not just for gamblers, but for casino staff as well.

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July 14, 2020, 09:42:31 PM
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They should limit too the number of players inside the casino and requires every player to undergo swab test before they enter the casino. Simply no clear test result equals no entry.

The number of allowed people is surely implemented
There is no actually number of people allow at the tabke game or slot machines but every casino are told to limit their visitors in 50 percent, allow the social distancing, hand santizing, regular washing by casino staff and disinfectant every surface. Besides, the same requirements applied to restaurants and night clubs.


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July 14, 2020, 09:45:39 PM
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They should limit too the number of players inside the casino and requires every player to undergo swab test before they enter the casino. Simply no clear test result equals no entry.

The number of allowed people is surely implemented but I don't think to have the tests result as a requirement will be imposed. Not all people are encouraged to undergo the Swab test unless they feel the symptoms, to save supplies and cost. And for the cost, people are the ones paying for it so I doubt they will undergo that just for the purpose to play on casinos.

I'm with that idea honestly to ensure every gambler is cleared from the virus. However, that kind of requirement might discourage gamblers to play there since it's too much for a hassle especially on a healthy person. But hopefully, it will be considered for the sake of all people there, not just for gamblers, but for casino staff as well.

Its too hassle for most cases but this is much more better rather than just simply relying on thermal scanners and alcohol because we wont know if that person is just not showing off any symptoms

and this is why i do still consider on going to these places due to that fact and even going outside as simple as walking in the streets will really give out that risk of exposure to someone that had some virus.

Yes, this is hassle but i dont think that casinos will implement such protocol to ensure out peoples safety into the establishment.
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July 14, 2020, 10:22:13 PM
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They should limit too the number of players inside the casino and requires every player to undergo swab test before they enter the casino. Simply no clear test result equals no entry.

The number of allowed people is surely implemented but I don't think to have the tests result as a requirement will be imposed. Not all people are encouraged to undergo the Swab test unless they feel the symptoms, to save supplies and cost. And for the cost, people are the ones paying for it so I doubt they will undergo that just for the purpose to play on casinos.

I'm with that idea honestly to ensure every gambler is cleared from the virus. However, that kind of requirement might discourage gamblers to play there since it's too much for a hassle especially on a healthy person. But hopefully, it will be considered for the sake of all people there, not just for gamblers, but for casino staff as well.

Its too hassle for most cases but this is much more better rather than just simply relying on thermal scanners and alcohol because we wont know if that person is just not showing off any symptoms

and this is why i do still consider on going to these places due to that fact and even going outside as simple as walking in the streets will really give out that risk of exposure to someone that had some virus.

Yes, this is hassle but i dont think that casinos will implement such protocol to ensure out peoples safety into the establishment.

How much would be the cost for every swab test? I think these people who can afford to go in a casino can also afford to pay for the cost, this is for the safety of people inside the casinos, so it doesn't matter if it's costly as stopping the casino operations just because a carrier has entered the place and infected the people inside is even more costly.

For those who are wondering on how long they will wait to get the results, here's the explanation.

https://www.cnet.com/health/coronavirus-testing-how-long-does-it-take-to-get-test-results-for-covid-19/

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In theory, it takes only a few hours or less for the lab to determine if you've acquired the coronavirus. But depending on where you live, it can take up to a week or more to get your results back. It also depends on how many tests have been administered in your location.

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In theory its a fair idea but that kind of thing should be done on state or national basis, a company verifying people to enter their complex is a bit of a let down from what could be better organized across a whole community.  Is it not feasible to start sorting people into those who have had it previous, recovered and not a threat of spreading now and those who clear

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I think these people who can afford to go in a casino can also afford to pay for the cost, this is for the safety of people inside the casinos, so it doesn't matter if it's costly as stopping the casino operations just because a carrier has entered the place and infected the people inside is even more costly.

A simple statement. If only it's easy to do as it says.

For a gambler's mindset, why should they undergo a swab test just for the purpose to enter the casino? If I'm a gambler I'd rather find other casinos with no restrictions like that unless I'm a die-hard player of the said casino. It's no different from other establishments wherein there is no need for a test.

Again, I'm with the idea but I will give a 0% chance for that to be implemented or even considered.

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July 14, 2020, 10:50:01 PM
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I think these people who can afford to go in a casino can also afford to pay for the cost, this is for the safety of people inside the casinos, so it doesn't matter if it's costly as stopping the casino operations just because a carrier has entered the place and infected the people inside is even more costly.

A simple statement. If only it's easy to do as it says.

For a gambler's mindset, why should they undergo a swab test just for the purpose to enter the casino? If I'm a gambler I'd rather find other casinos with no restrictions like that unless I'm a die-hard player of the said casino. It's no different from other establishments wherein there is no need for a test.

Again, I'm with the idea but I will give a 0% chance for that to be implemented or even considered.

I would actually do the same thing which if i do know that i would undergo with a swab test then i will simply skip out and find another place no matter how die hard player am i to that casino.
I do hear of that swab test is painful and i cant just dare nor tend to try just for me to be able to play in the place.You do have the options though even we do understand that it is done
for our safety but im not really that ready for such procedure.
There are lots of casinos in the place and its impossible that you cant see one that having no requirements or protocols like that.

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July 14, 2020, 10:57:40 PM
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They should limit too the number of players inside the casino and requires every player to undergo swab test before they enter the casino. Simply no clear test result equals no entry.

The number of allowed people is surely implemented but I don't think to have the tests result as a requirement will be imposed. Not all people are encouraged to undergo the Swab test unless they feel the symptoms, to save supplies and cost. And for the cost, people are the ones paying for it so I doubt they will undergo that just for the purpose to play on casinos.

I'm with that idea honestly to ensure every gambler is cleared from the virus. However, that kind of requirement might discourage gamblers to play there since it's too much for a hassle especially on a healthy person. But hopefully, it will be considered for the sake of all people there, not just for gamblers, but for casino staff as well.

Its too hassle for most cases but this is much more better rather than just simply relying on thermal scanners and alcohol because we wont know if that person is just not showing off any symptoms

and this is why i do still consider on going to these places due to that fact and even going outside as simple as walking in the streets will really give out that risk of exposure to someone that had some virus.

Yes, this is hassle but i dont think that casinos will implement such protocol to ensure out peoples safety into the establishment.

How much would be the cost for every swab test? I think these people who can afford to go in a casino can also afford to pay for the cost, this is for the safety of people inside the casinos, so it doesn't matter if it's costly as stopping the casino operations just because a carrier has entered the place and infected the people inside is even more costly.

They wont surely mind of the cost but the procedure on how its been done and as mentioned by mahanton above that this one is painful and not all would really be willing to deal with it.

Also there is much more faster rapid test kid that can give out results 10-15 minutes which is more less painful since it do only require some sample blood.
I dont know if this one is accurate though.
http://www.ringbio.com/products/covid-19-total-antibody-rapid-test-kit
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July 14, 2020, 11:01:17 PM
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For a gambler's mindset, why should they undergo a swab test just for the purpose to enter the casino? If I'm a gambler I'd rather find other casinos with no restrictions like that unless I'm a die-hard player of the said casino. It's no different from other establishments wherein there is no need for a test.
Swab test is necessary if your place was in the high virus-infected record, but if the place that has flatten curve record of virus-infected and if they are in a modified general quarantine level, so this is a case to case basis. Thermal testing and proper guidelines for sanitation or disinfectant will be fine.

Though it is risky for gamblers to do this, I guess if they really want to they will find ways just to gamble.


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July 14, 2020, 11:18:28 PM
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I think these people who can afford to go in a casino can also afford to pay for the cost, this is for the safety of people inside the casinos, so it doesn't matter if it's costly as stopping the casino operations just because a carrier has entered the place and infected the people inside is even more costly.

A simple statement. If only it's easy to do as it says.

For a gambler's mindset, why should they undergo a swab test just for the purpose to enter the casino? If I'm a gambler I'd rather find other casinos with no restrictions like that unless I'm a die-hard player of the said casino. It's no different from other establishments wherein there is no need for a test.

Again, I'm with the idea but I will give a 0% chance for that to be implemented or even considered.

I think testing people for the presence of elevated temperature is sufficient. It is sick people in the active phase of infection that pose the greatest danger.
It is impossible to secure the casino 100%. Even passing additional tests will not protect the casino from the virus on clothes, money, or food. Therefore, those who want to take a risk - let them play, those who are afraid - let them sit at home and look out the Windows.
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July 15, 2020, 03:14:31 AM
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I guess every casinos as long as they have the licensed and they follow the protocol has to be allowed to operate, the resumption of businesses especially for casinos are for everyone as the small ones are the ones who suffers the most, so the government should not choose.

Maybe the attention was only centered with Las Vegas Casinos since they are the most popular, biggest tax contributor but everyone must be given a chance to start earning again. I'm sure the model will be the same for all casinos as they have the same operation, social distancing and wearing of mask are too basic ,so I don't think it will not be followed easily.

Following the protocols is for their safety, and that is why they must do what it needs. Perhaps, the government doesn't have to permit the small casino if they cannot follow the procedure and only give it to the big casino.

I am sure that if Las Vegas Casino can succeed to reopen their business, the local government will have revenue from the gambling business. Although the income is not higher yet, it will become bigger if many casinos in that city want to start their business too. Even if wearing a mask is the primary thing that people should use, not all people in the road or public are still use it. It seems, they think that the situations now is under control, but the reality, the government, the doctor,  and the scientist still fight the virus without stop.

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