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July 16, 2020, 04:56:57 PM
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Some people are simply unable to accept the truth, it amazes me that some people are still denying the existence of the virus and claiming this as the reason why they do not take precautions, it is as if they do not see all the people at the hospitals that are there suffering because of this disease and unfortunately it is because of them that this crisis cannot be solved in a more swift manner and affects all of us that are willing to take the precautions so the economy and many different businesses, including casinos, can remain open.

Why should people be massively afraid of the coronavirus? Because it is being reported in all the world's media?
If I am healthy and want to visit a casino, and the casino Owners are ready to ensure my safety, why can't I do it?
In our world, there are hundreds of different diseases and we are constantly at risk of catching them, but this does not mean that we all have to stay at home.
If you take the necessary precautions and the casino does as well then have fun and visit the casino, my problem is with all of those people that do not take the necessary precautions, some of them claim the virus does not exist and they just want to go back to work not understanding that if the majority of the people do that then it is impossible to open the economy completely and it is possible that some businesses will be closed again, I have problems with those people and not with people like you that do listen and are responsible with their behaviours.
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July 16, 2020, 06:09:13 PM
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Some say that the Covid tests are expensive, and I will attest that information is true in my area. A covid test that is being administered on a private hospital and that is not supported by government costs 175 U.S. Dollars give or take. So it is not really like a free thing as many people would think. The government can only administer a million or two but imagine how much taxpayer money it uses.

I can confirm this. It is expensive to make a test and it is also said that its result is not entirely valid: can be both pseudo-negative and pseudo-positive. and I'm at a loss.
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July 16, 2020, 06:25:02 PM
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Some people are simply unable to accept the truth, it amazes me that some people are still denying the existence of the virus and claiming this as the reason why they do not take precautions, it is as if they do not see all the people at the hospitals that are there suffering because of this disease and unfortunately it is because of them that this crisis cannot be solved in a more swift manner and affects all of us that are willing to take the precautions so the economy and many different businesses, including casinos, can remain open.

Why should people be massively afraid of the coronavirus? Because it is being reported in all the world's media?
If I am healthy and want to visit a casino, and the casino Owners are ready to ensure my safety, why can't I do it?
In our world, there are hundreds of different diseases and we are constantly at risk of catching them, but this does not mean that we all have to stay at home.

Oh yes, friend! Finally somebody said all of that.

and this applies not only to casinos, but to all life and activities in the world.
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July 16, 2020, 06:32:05 PM
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Why should people be massively afraid of the coronavirus? Because it is being reported in all the world's media?
If I am healthy and want to visit a casino, and the casino Owners are ready to ensure my safety, why can't I do it?
In our world, there are hundreds of different diseases and we are constantly at risk of catching them, but this does not mean that we all have to stay at home.

Healthy doesnt mean you are not infected by virus. Maybe you simply have a strong immunity system, but you still can be a virus carrier. Wont you blame yourself if you would infect someone with low immune system, and that person gets troubles?

Yes, there hundreds of diseases, most dont have cure. But they dont have a proven fact that they spread such easily like covid-19. I believe most of their spread can be limited by lockdown. But take a look on covid-19. Even during lockdown this virus manages to spread.

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July 16, 2020, 06:51:55 PM
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Some say that the Covid tests are expensive, and I will attest that information is true in my area. A covid test that is being administered on a private hospital and that is not supported by government costs 175 U.S. Dollars give or take. So it is not really like a free thing as many people would think. The government can only administer a million or two but imagine how much taxpayer money it uses.

A rapid test is kind of cheap but that isn't recommended since it can't actually detect the virus.

Swab test is expensive and costly but as far as our situation here in our country is concern, the expenses should be covered by employers (for employed and that's mandatory) or by a local government unit. Supplies are also limited that's why for average people, it's not recommended to undergo a test unless they feel symptoms.

Going back to the topic which is resuming of Las Vegas Casinos and reading a few replies back, I can't see that a casino will mandate or required their customers to show test results before they will be allowed to enter the casinos. Let's accept that there is no way a certain place will prevent any infection especially for a country that establishing hundred thousands of confirmed cases daily so I'm hoping that all casinos there is strict, not that strict but too much strict in implementing safety measures.
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July 17, 2020, 09:20:54 AM
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Some say that the Covid tests are expensive, and I will attest that information is true in my area. A covid test that is being administered on a private hospital and that is not supported by government costs 175 U.S. Dollars give or take. So it is not really like a free thing as many people would think. The government can only administer a million or two but imagine how much taxpayer money it uses.

A rapid test is kind of cheap but that isn't recommended since it can't actually detect the virus.

Swab test is expensive and costly but as far as our situation here in our country is concern, the expenses should be covered by employers (for employed and that's mandatory) or by a local government unit. Supplies are also limited that's why for average people, it's not recommended to undergo a test unless they feel symptoms.

Going back to the topic which is resuming of Las Vegas Casinos and reading a few replies back, I can't see that a casino will mandate or required their customers to show test results before they will be allowed to enter the casinos. Let's accept that there is no way a certain place will prevent any infection especially for a country that establishing hundred thousands of confirmed cases daily so I'm hoping that all casinos there is strict, not that strict but too much strict in implementing safety measures.

That thousands of daily infections, that's too high and that's the reason why USA is leading now for most number of cases.
It could be costly actually, I am even seeing that but costly if they afford then why can't they implement it? But then, I understand your point, you are looking at the overall that not all gamblers who wants to go inside the casino can afford it, the moment they spend for the "swab testing", they already spent so it could be considered as part of their loses already.

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July 17, 2020, 09:29:51 AM
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The only way testing is really going to work is for an entire area, then you reduce the circulation between those positive and those not.    That would need alot of tests to do a million people or however many is in that area/town and then organise it all, seems like its not happening.  The only real alternative is distancing and then treatment for those who become obvious in their symptoms.   Since the ill wont have spread before receiving treatment that is why the spread factor goes down and control increases, at present people wont accept this is a virus which can appear as nothing while spread phase and then kill.
   The two extremes are confusing people and making some believe its non existent just before they die, we've not had this unique mix in a virus or similar covid extremes prior and its especially effective at spreading in society that wont accept medical research or government statistics.   It is a perfect storm unfortunately so theres no excuse to open a casino with that background ongoing, except money is more valuable then reducing the mix of people and this natural spread behaviour.

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July 17, 2020, 04:50:45 PM
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Some say that the Covid tests are expensive, and I will attest that information is true in my area. A covid test that is being administered on a private hospital and that is not supported by government costs 175 U.S. Dollars give or take. So it is not really like a free thing as many people would think. The government can only administer a million or two but imagine how much taxpayer money it uses.

A rapid test is kind of cheap but that isn't recommended since it can't actually detect the virus.

Swab test is expensive and costly but as far as our situation here in our country is concern, the expenses should be covered by employers (for employed and that's mandatory) or by a local government unit. Supplies are also limited that's why for average people, it's not recommended to undergo a test unless they feel symptoms.

Going back to the topic which is resuming of Las Vegas Casinos and reading a few replies back, I can't see that a casino will mandate or required their customers to show test results before they will be allowed to enter the casinos. Let's accept that there is no way a certain place will prevent any infection especially for a country that establishing hundred thousands of confirmed cases daily so I'm hoping that all casinos there is strict, not that strict but too much strict in implementing safety measures.

That thousands of daily infections, that's too high and that's the reason why USA is leading now for most number of cases.
It could be costly actually, I am even seeing that but costly if they afford then why can't they implement it? But then, I understand your point, you are looking at the overall that not all gamblers who wants to go inside the casino can afford it, the moment they spend for the "swab testing", they already spent so it could be considered as part of their loses already.

Even if the swab tests will be implemented on casinos and gambling areas, and the casino patrons religiously follow the health protocols, there is still chance that someone might get infected along the way and will cause problems infecting other people. I just learned that the covid tests have something like an expiry date, for example if you took a test this day and your result would be negative, it doesn't mean that you will stay negative for the next few days. Also there are reports that covid survivors would still be able to pick up and get sick again by the disease as soon as they are released back to society.

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July 17, 2020, 05:21:09 PM
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Some say that the Covid tests are expensive, and I will attest that information is true in my area. A covid test that is being administered on a private hospital and that is not supported by government costs 175 U.S. Dollars give or take. So it is not really like a free thing as many people would think. The government can only administer a million or two but imagine how much taxpayer money it uses.

A rapid test is kind of cheap but that isn't recommended since it can't actually detect the virus.

Swab test is expensive and costly but as far as our situation here in our country is concern, the expenses should be covered by employers (for employed and that's mandatory) or by a local government unit. Supplies are also limited that's why for average people, it's not recommended to undergo a test unless they feel symptoms.

Going back to the topic which is resuming of Las Vegas Casinos and reading a few replies back, I can't see that a casino will mandate or required their customers to show test results before they will be allowed to enter the casinos. Let's accept that there is no way a certain place will prevent any infection especially for a country that establishing hundred thousands of confirmed cases daily so I'm hoping that all casinos there is strict, not that strict but too much strict in implementing safety measures.

That thousands of daily infections, that's too high and that's the reason why USA is leading now for most number of cases.
It could be costly actually, I am even seeing that but costly if they afford then why can't they implement it? But then, I understand your point, you are looking at the overall that not all gamblers who wants to go inside the casino can afford it, the moment they spend for the "swab testing", they already spent so it could be considered as part of their loses already.

Even if the swab tests will be implemented on casinos and gambling areas, and the casino patrons religiously follow the health protocols, there is still chance that someone might get infected along the way and will cause problems infecting other people. I just learned that the covid tests have something like an expiry date, for example if you took a test this day and your result would be negative, it doesn't mean that you will stay negative for the next few days. Also there are reports that covid survivors would still be able to pick up and get sick again by the disease as soon as they are released back to society.
Even though if someone has negative on covid tests they might still hold the virus on the surface which they got them from other persons so entering into casinos will result in chaos doe sure and testing is not ever practical to implement though because we can't spend every test kits to gamblers alone.So one who wants to take risk then they should go without testing themselves that is what government decided to go with after long way of quarantine months.
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July 17, 2020, 07:07:42 PM
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Usually, our caution can protect us from these risks No one knows how the virus will ever infect It is safer to stay at home to protect against vaccines This will reduce the risk Las Vegas has opened casinos because the incidence of viruses in their country has dropped significantly. But everyone is more inclined to gamble online out of concern for their own health.

Not just that but also because they wanted to get back the economy to the "new" normal since the pandemic. Every country is affected and there are a lot of profits and taxes from casinos that is why reopening these casinos can help the country take back its lost profits and take back the falling economy.

If people would want to gamble in these casinos, they would be following the protocols and be used to the new normal.

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Usually, our caution can protect us from these risks No one knows how the virus will ever infect It is safer to stay at home to protect against vaccines This will reduce the risk Las Vegas has opened casinos because the incidence of viruses in their country has dropped significantly. But everyone is more inclined to gamble online out of concern for their own health.

Not just that but also because they wanted to get back the economy to the "new" normal since the pandemic. Every country is affected and there are a lot of profits and taxes from casinos that is why reopening these casinos can help the country take back its lost profits and take back the falling economy.

If people would want to gamble in these casinos, they would be following the protocols and be used to the new normal.
Ok but look at the situation now.
The Nevada (Las Vegas' state) was under 1000 new covid19 cases a day, ten days ago.
Now it's above 1500 new cases by day.  Undecided
The disease is spreading fast
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/nevada/


But there are consequences to that.
Cases in Nevada are growing very quickly now. And if the cases don't stop to rise state authorities will have to lock down Las Vegas again.



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Usually, our caution can protect us from these risks No one knows how the virus will ever infect It is safer to stay at home to protect against vaccines This will reduce the risk Las Vegas has opened casinos because the incidence of viruses in their country has dropped significantly. But everyone is more inclined to gamble online out of concern for their own health.

Not just that but also because they wanted to get back the economy to the "new" normal since the pandemic. Every country is affected and there are a lot of profits and taxes from casinos that is why reopening these casinos can help the country take back its lost profits and take back the falling economy.

If people would want to gamble in these casinos, they would be following the protocols and be used to the new normal.
Ok but look at the situation now.
The Nevada (Las Vegas' state) was under 1000 new covid19 cases a day, ten days ago.
Now it's above 1500 new cases by day.  Undecided
The disease is spreading fast
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/nevada/


But there are consequences to that.
Cases in Nevada are growing very quickly now. And if the cases don't stop to rise state authorities will have to lock down Las Vegas again.



I don't really know what are they really thinking but for sure, they know that this is coming and I don't know what are they doing about that. I am not shocked that the cases increases but shocked because they actually don't know what are they doing. They just wanted to regain their lost economy but I think they will be more affected since the cases are increasing.

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July 18, 2020, 04:24:01 AM
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The only way testing is really going to work is for an entire area, then you reduce the circulation between those positive and those not.    That would need alot of tests to do a million people or however many is in that area/town and then organise it all, seems like its not happening.  The only real alternative is distancing and then treatment for those who become obvious in their symptoms.   Since the ill wont have spread before receiving treatment that is why the spread factor goes down and control increases, at present people wont accept this is a virus which can appear as nothing while spread phase and then kill.
   The two extremes are confusing people and making some believe its non existent just before they die, we've not had this unique mix in a virus or similar covid extremes prior and its especially effective at spreading in society that wont accept medical research or government statistics.   It is a perfect storm unfortunately so theres no excuse to open a casino with that background ongoing, except money is more valuable then reducing the mix of people and this natural spread behaviour.
Well, I think it's a matter of lack of supplies? That's why they refuse to do checks for millions of people. Not to mention that if millions were to be checked, it'd span in weeks if not months, and such situations where the person checked was infected AFTER being checked, well, then their efforts, money and supply were wasted no? Can't really blame them being helpless when confronted with millions of people. There's also the issue of asymptomatic infected, which makes things a lot more complicated when it comes to testing obvious symptoms.
Going back to the topic which is resuming of Las Vegas Casinos and reading a few replies back, I can't see that a casino will mandate or required their customers to show test results before they will be allowed to enter the casinos. Let's accept that there is no way a certain place will prevent any infection especially for a country that establishing hundred thousands of confirmed cases daily so I'm hoping that all casinos there is strict, not that strict but too much strict in implementing safety measures.
Let's be real here, even if they were to present test results, that doesn't mean that the same result would still be accurate the next day right? Or week? It's actually inefficient even if they did try to do so. They only need to be strict when it comes to implementinig safety measures, especially since not only would their reputation drop they're employees themselves would be affected in case a positive infection gets in, leading to damages that exceed compared to them closing down temporarily.

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Looking at the graph of the cases in Nevada, there is really a need for the local government to make a strategy and way to lessen the number of cases. And that is make a crucial decision to close the establishments for the meantime and prevent hard headed tourists and gamblers from entering the main cities without a valid reason. I know many countries are relaxing their soft lockdowns but it depends on the situation or it is case to case basis for each country or area and it is not always the same comparing areas. Las Vegas is a different case altogether. They better decide what is more important, the economy or the health of their constituents.

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July 18, 2020, 05:31:12 AM
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Looking at the graph of the cases in Nevada, there is really a need for the local government to make a strategy and way to lessen the number of cases. And that is make a crucial decision to close the establishments for the meantime and prevent hard headed tourists and gamblers from entering the main cities without a valid reason. I know many countries are relaxing their soft lockdowns but it depends on the situation or it is case to case basis for each country or area and it is not always the same comparing areas. Las Vegas is a different case altogether. They better decide what is more important, the economy or the health of their constituents.
Nah, if it's coming from the casinos then probably they need to close it, the cases will still continue because that's already the trend and closing the casinos would not help to reduce it. TBH, I was thinking at first that closing this kind of business would help but I realize that if the government will do it, the more the economy will suffer.

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July 18, 2020, 08:43:22 PM
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Healthy doesnt mean you are not infected by virus. Maybe you simply have a strong immunity system, but you still can be a virus carrier. Wont you blame yourself if you would infect someone with low immune system, and that person gets troubles?

If you take the necessary precautions and the casino does as well then have fun and visit the casino, my problem is with all of those people that do not take the necessary precautions, some of them claim the virus does not exist and they just want to go back to work not understanding that if the majority of the people do that then it is impossible to open the economy completely and it is possible that some businesses will be closed again, I have problems with those people and not with people like you that do listen and are responsible with their behaviours.

Everyone should understand that there are a great many diseases that are not told about everyday on TV. However, we all risk getting them everyday. We need to be less afraid and listen more to doctors and not TV.
I believe that the time has come when you can safely visit public places, including casinos and sports matches.
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July 18, 2020, 09:51:01 PM
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At the beginning when the Las Vegas Casinos were reactivated, customers were invited to wear face masks. Now, it is mandatory has been in place for two weeks. All Las Vegas Casinos are limiting smoking to customers to prevent them from removing their face masks. These Casinos are trying to make the reopening a success and fighting to avoid contagions in their establishments.
Las Vegas Sands Corp,
Wynn Resorts Ltd,
Caesars Entertainment,
MGM Resorts.

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July 18, 2020, 09:52:56 PM
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Looking at the graph of the cases in Nevada, there is really a need for the local government to make a strategy and way to lessen the number of cases. And that is make a crucial decision to close the establishments for the meantime and prevent hard headed tourists and gamblers from entering the main cities without a valid reason. I know many countries are relaxing their soft lockdowns but it depends on the situation or it is case to case basis for each country or area and it is not always the same comparing areas. Las Vegas is a different case altogether. They better decide what is more important, the economy or the health of their constituents.
Nah, if it's coming from the casinos then probably they need to close it, the cases will still continue because that's already the trend and closing the casinos would not help to reduce it. TBH, I was thinking at first that closing this kind of business would help but I realize that if the government will do it, the more the economy will suffer.
To think that gambling business arent the only ones who do generate taxes but  also other businesses as well but to saw that they do really have big tax then we can presume out that they do have an important role.

This is why we are seeing that these businesses are gradually opening and been let by the government because it wont really be sustainable if the gov't isnt generating or getting in talks of tax and continuing

to spend out for necessary things for the current pandemic situation.Here on my place where businesses goes back to normal but following social distancing and other protocol.

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July 18, 2020, 11:06:55 PM
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Looking at the graph of the cases in Nevada, there is really a need for the local government to make a strategy and way to lessen the number of cases. And that is make a crucial decision to close the establishments for the meantime and prevent hard headed tourists and gamblers from entering the main cities without a valid reason. I know many countries are relaxing their soft lockdowns but it depends on the situation or it is case to case basis for each country or area and it is not always the same comparing areas. Las Vegas is a different case altogether. They better decide what is more important, the economy or the health of their constituents.
Some countries are still in lockdown and the so called government has nothing to do with it. Some had lost control over their movements with knowing what the future holds for them. Most of local gambling platforms have a shop operated by agents where bettors, gamblers go for placing a bet. This will really affect the case of Las Vegas as US records a good number of cases and covid 19 wouldn't come to end soon, Soviet would advice gamblers residing in Las Vegas to stay out of casino hall until this pandemic is over. 
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Looking at the graph of the cases in Nevada, there is really a need for the local government to make a strategy and way to lessen the number of cases. And that is make a crucial decision to close the establishments for the meantime and prevent hard headed tourists and gamblers from entering the main cities without a valid reason. I know many countries are relaxing their soft lockdowns but it depends on the situation or it is case to case basis for each country or area and it is not always the same comparing areas. Las Vegas is a different case altogether. They better decide what is more important, the economy or the health of their constituents.
Some countries are still in lockdown and the so called government has nothing to do with it. Some had lost control over their movements with knowing what the future holds for them. Most of local gambling platforms have a shop operated by agents where bettors, gamblers go for placing a bet. This will really affect the case of Las Vegas as US records a good number of cases and covid 19 wouldn't come to end soon, Soviet would advice gamblers residing in Las Vegas to stay out of casino hall until this pandemic is over. 

Now, some countries are trying to reopen the lockdown, and apply the new normal which can give the chance for the casino to reopen their business too. Las Vegas as a place for many local casinos already reopen their place and invite the gambler to come to their casino and play the games. I am sure the local government can work together with the casino to use some rules for the gambler if they want to play gambling in the casino. In this pandemic, it is important to protect people in the casino, and I am sure that the casino itself will limit the number of gamblers who can enter the room.

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