Las Vegas Casinos are open - end of the Pandemic era.

[jademaxsuy]

Since this pandemic spreads through air, the only solution to slow down its spread is to impose a complete lockdown. But it was imposed earlier and if it is imposed again, then the economy may take a hit. What needed now was a gradual re-opening, where only the essential services are allowed. But in the United States and some of the other nations, they are trying to go back to the pre-COVID days all of a sudden and this has resulted in the sudden spike in the number of new infections.

It is impossible for everyone to lockdown including the frontliners. And the records show that most case  are being contact with the front liners or the front liners itself thus letting the virus to spread. Lockdown was just to minimize the the cases but not to stop it. Now that some of the country declares GCQ which resulted to another fluctuate and somehow forcing them to decide wether to lock down again or will be in MECQ.

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[Saint-loup]

Since this pandemic spreads through air, the only solution to slow down its spread is to impose a complete lockdown. But it was imposed earlier and if it is imposed again, then the economy may take a hit. What needed now was a gradual re-opening, where only the essential services are allowed. But in the United States and some of the other nations, they are trying to go back to the pre-COVID days all of a sudden and this has resulted in the sudden spike in the number of new infections.

It is impossible for everyone to lockdown including the frontliners. And the records show that most case  are being contact with the front liners or the front liners itself thus letting the virus to spread. Lockdown was just to minimize the the cases but not to stop it. Now that some of the country declares GCQ which resulted to another fluctuate and somehow forcing them to decide wether to lock down again or will be in MECQ.

GCQ and MECQ are special measures belonging to the Duterte's governement not the american administration.
Figures are stable in the Nevada state now(more or less 1000 new cases a day). I think authorities have found the right balance point.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/nevada/

[lebregone]

The virus is still there and the vaccine is still not available therefore opening the Casinos is not a better move if we are going to think it broadly.
But as you can see, Las Vegas is the biggest land base casino and most of their income are coming from it so I cannot blame the government if they will decide to open it because I know that they have a deeper reason behind their action.

Let's just hope that the vaccine will be develop as soon as possible so we can go back to our normal life again and there will be no reason for us to close any casinos and etc.

[bitbunnny]

I think its not a good idea to open casinos today. The virus is everywhere, we don’t know who has the virus. Its more important to stay at home rather than go to casinos. That’s why online gambling is better today so we can be safe while we’re gambling. Online gambling is the new trend if you are addicted to gambling. There are a lot of way to gambling. So much better to bet online rather than physical or going to casinos.

I play in traditional casinos from time to time. I do this in order to get good emotions from the game. I have tried many times to play in an online casino. The difference in emotions is huge.
Of course, if your goal is to earn money, it probably doesn't make much difference where to play. But those who want to have a good rest and have a good time - they will always choose a traditional casino.

Although I don't like to.play in traditional casinos I understand that there are people who like and I understand that the emotions and atmosphere can't be compared with online casinos. Therefore people need to have possibility to go to casinos and we mustn't also forget on people who are employed there, they need to provide for themselves and their families and that right mustn't be taken from them.
I think that in pandemic situation conditions in casinos could be set and controlled in a way to protect the health.

[KTChampions]

To be honest, this new reality is somewhat depressing. If this continues for a long time, we will see many associated problems such as increased levels of mental disorders / suicide, etc.
The city in which I live is now the peak of the holiday season and there are practically no problems associated with the virus, but I'm afraid to imagine what awaits us again in the fall.

The consequences of this virus are going to be with us for a very long time, for example think of all the kids that are now taking online classes instead of going to school, their level of socialization will be lower and most likely they are not going to learn as much as they did when they went to class so I will not be surprised if we see a drop in the literacy rate and IQ in the current generation that is just starting school and are taking online classes.

You are looking too far into the future, and honestly, most of the life of modern teenagers is spent online, so little has changed here. In any case, this is not the biggest problem we should be afraid of with this virus. I think if we look at this increased isolation from different angles, we can even find advantages, but all they will not negate the huge harm to health and to the economy from the virus.

[FontSeli]

I think that in pandemic situation conditions in casinos could be set and controlled in a way to protect the health.

As in all public places. Casino visitors should be asked to wear masks, and their temperature should be checked at the entrance. Also, everywhere within walking distance should be antiviral agents for hand treatment , as well as during games should be observed distance, which is quite difficult to do in games where several people play.

[chaser15]

.. which is quite difficult to do in games where several people play.

Not that difficult if the number of allowed person inside will be strictly imposed. In that way, management or staff will see right away if some of their customers are following the social distancing. And besides, machines are not operated at 100% fully so monitoring would be easy.

That kind of guideline was followed properly by some groceries and dept. store here. I don't know how they count those people on which I believed is manual, so if these stores can follow, I'm sure casinos too. The amount of people in the casino is way few compare to these essential stores so implementing social distancing might be an easy task to follow for people there. But in a community, there's always a hard-headed so even how good the protocol is, as long as there are people like that, there is no 100% rules that can't be followed.

[FontSeli]

.. which is quite difficult to do in games where several people play.

Not that difficult if the number of allowed person inside will be strictly imposed. In that way, management or staff will see right away if some of their customers are following the social distancing. And besides, machines are not operated at 100% fully so monitoring would be easy.

That kind of guideline was followed properly by some groceries and dept. store here. I don't know how they count those people on which I believed is manual, so if these stores can follow, I'm sure casinos too. The amount of people in the casino is way few compare to these essential stores so implementing social distancing might be an easy task to follow for people there. But in a community, there's always a hard-headed so even how good the protocol is, as long as there are people like that, there is no 100% rules that can't be followed.

The difficulty lies in the fact that many games (mostly card games) involve the presence of several people at the table and a croupier. The tables are small and it is difficult to keep a distance of 1.5 meters behind them.

[kawetsriyanto]

If the new normal can cause another new case of the infected people, your government needs to have a strict rule for their people to prevent infection people or new cases. The new norm can cause another second wave attack of the virus if people don't follow and obey the government's rule. People themselves seem and tend to don't care about the rule, the simple examples is people don't wear a mask when they go out to the public area. That is not just happening in your country, but it's happening in many countries.

Agree, the government should consider applying a more strict rule. But the problem is even in the same country, different cities may have a different rule as the level of Covid spread not the same. Even though people can travel from one city to another. This makes the problem be more complicated. You are right, many people still don't really care about the rule. Even though the government has punished those who don't wear masks, in fact there are still many who are lazy to wear masks. They assume that the virus has gone already, and the current cases are just a trick from the mass media. 

[StephenJH]

I think that in pandemic situation conditions in casinos could be set and controlled in a way to protect the health.

As in all public places. Casino visitors should be asked to wear masks, and their temperature should be checked at the entrance. Also, everywhere within walking distance should be antiviral agents for hand treatment , as well as during games should be observed distance, which is quite difficult to do in games where several people play.

I doubt the casino croupiers will agree to accept the between 3 max 4 players before starting to spin the roulette ball. In reality, more than 6 gamblers around the roulette table throw the chips or cash to bet on the different areas of numbers and croupier along with manager adjust the bets. Wearing masks and checking temperature parts are ok but keeping social distance will not be the case, IMO.

[Janation]

It might not be a good idea but they have their reason for it.

Las Vegas is known for its casinos and bars, thay is why they are opening it immediately despite the pandemic. Online gambling is better nowadays but they can't really stop these people and just follow the certain protocols. But some are really patriotic and hard-headed to play on their offline casinos.

Since this pandemic spreads through air, the only solution to slow down its spread is to impose a complete lockdown. But it was imposed earlier and if it is imposed again, then the economy may take a hit. What needed now was a gradual re-opening, where only the essential services are allowed. But in the United States and some of the other nations, they are trying to go back to the pre-COVID days all of a sudden and this has resulted in the sudden spike in the number of new infections.

To be clear, Covid-19 is not airborne.

It is just being passed from human to human by physical contacts and respiratory droplets. We can't just impose a lockdown all of a sudden because that would more destroy the economy of a country. The reason for this casino and bar openings is to restore their economy.

Cases spiking is inevitabke at that state but the people are also making it harder

[Timelord2067]

I doubt the casino croupiers will agree to accept the between 3 max 4 players before starting to spin the roulette ball. In reality, more than 6 gamblers around the roulette table throw the chips or cash to bet on the different areas of numbers and croupier along with manager adjust the bets. Wearing masks and checking temperature parts are ok but keeping social distance will not be the case, IMO.

They will if their employer tells them to do so.

I was at the Star Casino in Brisbane on Saturday, there are one way sections of the floor space.  Roulette tables have been spaced further apart with the Big Wheel moved to another room altogether.  Circles on the floor show where you can stand for games where seats aren't provided.

Dealers are sporadically wearing masks (as they did pre-shutdown)  No standing while drinking.  The various restaurants have had many tables removed altogether.  I couldn't see any Texas Hold 'Em being played at all either.

We can't just impose a lock-down all of a sudden because that would more destroy the economy of a country.

The State of Victoria here in Australia just did.

To be clear, Covid-19 is not airborne.

It is just being passed from human to human by physical contacts and respiratory droplets.

Wrong, wrong and almost right.

[Janation]

To be clear, Covid-19 is not airborne.

It is just being passed from human to human by physical contacts and respiratory droplets.

Wrong, wrong and almost right.

So you're saying that it is airborne?

You're saying that it is being taken by the air and not falling down when released when someone sneezed or talked? I thought it doesn't work like that?

[iTradeChips]

It might not be a good idea but they have their reason for it.

Las Vegas is known for its casinos and bars, thay is why they are opening it immediately despite the pandemic. Online gambling is better nowadays but they can't really stop these people and just follow the certain protocols. But some are really patriotic and hard-headed to play on their offline casinos.

Since this pandemic spreads through air, the only solution to slow down its spread is to impose a complete lockdown. But it was imposed earlier and if it is imposed again, then the economy may take a hit. What needed now was a gradual re-opening, where only the essential services are allowed. But in the United States and some of the other nations, they are trying to go back to the pre-COVID days all of a sudden and this has resulted in the sudden spike in the number of new infections.

To be clear, Covid-19 is not airborne.

It is just being passed from human to human by physical contacts and respiratory droplets. We can't just impose a lockdown all of a sudden because that would more destroy the economy of a country. The reason for this casino and bar openings is to restore their economy.

Cases spiking is inevitabke at that state but the people are also making it harder

Governments are totally aware that imposing a total lockdown would cause adverse effects on the economy if they continued doing that. We are living in somewhat difficult, albeit manageable times still. All we can do basically is for us to be very careful in what we do in our day to day lives to prevent from getting sick - any sickness. We just need to stay healthy and at the same time stay clean and very careful. We do not know when this will end so our every day existence should be done to prevent getting sick.

[VanityWallets2015]

I understand that this pandemic has taken an enormous impact to the global economy.
However, we should all consider and prioritize the safety of everyone.
Opening back again the Las Vegas casinos, with the rising numbers of Covid-19 cases, won't help with the risk that is entailed with this.

[South Park]

To be honest, this new reality is somewhat depressing. If this continues for a long time, we will see many associated problems such as increased levels of mental disorders / suicide, etc.
The city in which I live is now the peak of the holiday season and there are practically no problems associated with the virus, but I'm afraid to imagine what awaits us again in the fall.

The consequences of this virus are going to be with us for a very long time, for example think of all the kids that are now taking online classes instead of going to school, their level of socialization will be lower and most likely they are not going to learn as much as they did when they went to class so I will not be surprised if we see a drop in the literacy rate and IQ in the current generation that is just starting school and are taking online classes.

Nah man, this pandemic should be over by next year, our government does not say that it's gonna last for awhile, so as we have the vaccine, the economy will recover and everything will be back to normal. It's just that now we need to survive, so the economy is open despite of the threat of the virus.

I have kids too, they have more online activity now but from time to time I also allow them to go outside to play and stretch that tiny bones and muscles.

This wont last forever and once vaccine is already available then we would really ease up our mind and not to worry anymore and in talks of economic aspect then we would really be surely recover.
Of course we have seen the impact in all industries from small to big and how people do adapt the new normal which is really somewhat kind of hassle thing but we dont have any choice but to
deal with it for now.Yes, theres no definite time for this on when it would be over but we are hoping and expecting for that thing to happen.For business out there, here in my country where
almost establishments is already open, local government do already allowed on such opening yet it cant really stand further more if they wont able to do so.

This is not going to last forever that is true but that doesn't mean that there are not going to be long term effects on people, I still maintain my position especially when it comes to the literacy rate, schools do more than babysitting the kids for a few hours, having a teacher in front of them forces them to learn but that is not going to be the case if they are taking classes on their computers, they are going to get easily distracted and avoid their homework and I say this because I'm already seeing this in my country.

[Timelord2067]

So you're saying that it is airborne?

You're saying that it is being taken by the air and not falling down when released when someone sneezed or talked? I thought it doesn't work like that?

It's airborne when sneezed or exhaled and if you are within the range of that exhale, then you will breathe it in.  (that is why it is essential to socially distance so you don't breathe it in - no-one can say for certain what the actual range of travel of a sneeze or exhale is).

Once the particles have settled on a surface, you come into contact by touching them and if you put your hand to your mouth or eyes transmission with occur.

Essentially, regularly wash your hands and maintain social distancing, avoid touching your face or eyes.

[electronicash]

To be honest, this new reality is somewhat depressing. If this continues for a long time, we will see many associated problems such as increased levels of mental disorders / suicide, etc.
The city in which I live is now the peak of the holiday season and there are practically no problems associated with the virus, but I'm afraid to imagine what awaits us again in the fall.

The consequences of this virus are going to be with us for a very long time, for example think of all the kids that are now taking online classes instead of going to school, their level of socialization will be lower and most likely they are not going to learn as much as they did when they went to class so I will not be surprised if we see a drop in the literacy rate and IQ in the current generation that is just starting school and are taking online classes.

Nah man, this pandemic should be over by next year, our government does not say that it's gonna last for awhile, so as we have the vaccine, the economy will recover and everything will be back to normal. It's just that now we need to survive, so the economy is open despite of the threat of the virus.

I have kids too, they have more online activity now but from time to time I also allow them to go outside to play and stretch that tiny bones and muscles.

This wont last forever and once vaccine is already available then we would really ease up our mind and not to worry anymore and in talks of economic aspect then we would really be surely recover.
Of course we have seen the impact in all industries from small to big and how people do adapt the new normal which is really somewhat kind of hassle thing but we dont have any choice but to
deal with it for now.Yes, theres no definite time for this on when it would be over but we are hoping and expecting for that thing to happen.For business out there, here in my country where
almost establishments is already open, local government do already allowed on such opening yet it cant really stand further more if they wont able to do so.

This is not going to last forever that is true but that doesn't mean that there are not going to be long term effects on people, I still maintain my position especially when it comes to the literacy rate, schools do more than babysitting the kids for a few hours, having a teacher in front of them forces them to learn but that is not going to be the case if they are taking classes on their computers, they are going to get easily distracted and avoid their homework and I say this because I'm already seeing this in my country.

the reality of online classes is this



kids today are more interested in watching youtube and games. there isn't even a social life for these kids anymore but just watching youtube and playing online games. this is why this pandemic has to end soon when finally a vaccine is created. its best for kids to really go sit and listen to teachers doing the lecture because its going to help the attention span.

[FlightyPouch]

I understand that this pandemic has taken an enormous impact to the global economy.
However, we should all consider and prioritize the safety of everyone.
Opening back again the Las Vegas casinos, with the rising numbers of Covid-19 cases, won't help with the risk that is entailed with this.

You're month late, it is already opened. Bars and casinos are functioning for some time now maybe for the goal of regaining their economy as these places are one of the most popular in Las Vegas. This is the reason for the increasing cases but they can't just stop these casinos from opening since they really needed it for their economy.

This will really fall into the hands of the gamblers themselves. If they wanted to take care of themselves, they will be thinking where to gamble and obviously decide to do it online and not offline though that won't be decided by us.

[kawetsriyanto]

This will really fall into the hands of the gamblers themselves. If they wanted to take care of themselves, they will be thinking where to gamble and obviously decide to do it online and not offline though that won't be decided by us.

Yep, for the gamblers who care to themselves and others, they prefer to gamble online than visiting physical casinos. It is much better staying at home and try online casinos than visiting physical casinos with high risk to be infected. We don't know what to happen even if we already wear masks and follow the regulations.