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June 24, 2020, 02:31:13 AM
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June 24, 2020, 03:38:14 AM
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If someone is keep winning more bets then casinos will intentionally ban them from playing there, this is biggest untold truth behind every successful casino.They offer lot of free perks for you to enjoy and make you guilty about not spending enough money.
I don't think that casino's will ban someone unless they are caught cheating or suspecting that they are cheating. Of course if you keep on winning, alarms will be raised and you will be put under the microscope. If didn't find anything suspicious then you are good, but we all know that  luck doesn't last. Sooner or later, the house edge will caught up on you.

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June 24, 2020, 03:56:29 AM
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Thanks for the heads up. I never knew such details and planning by Casinos were done. Anyways now, because of the pandemic, many have shifted to online gambling. Those things are not applicable when you gamble online. The list does make me believe that online gambling is far much safer.

I think this still depends though. There are those online casinos that scam people, that take advantage of the people, and sometimes the provably fair is also not true. I think there should also be another thread like this but with the online casinos: decoded. Physical and online casinos have their own good sides and bad sides, it is just right now with the pandemic, it is much better to bet online.

In a sense, all casinos are fooling people

I don't think your choice of words is proper

Fooling means deceiving, and in its ultimate form, scamming, i.e. making use and taking advantage of the victim's lack of knowledge, as well as trust abuse. However, the casino's house edge is always known beforehand, and you can easily see its effect in games like dice (read, you can check it). But if you know the house edge, it is no longer possible to rightfully claim that the casino is fooling you. Further, I wouldn't call it "a legal way of cheating", with respect to either legal or cheating (read, there's no such thing as "legal cheating")

HE is always there in casinos, so yes, it's not fooling the players as it does legally exist. If a casino has no HE, then it is for you to doubt about their intentions. I remember one casino here that was introduced with 0% HE, and a lot were hesitant about their true motives. Now, it is for the player to choose from these casinos where to play with, because the HE varies a lil bit from one casino to another.
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June 24, 2020, 05:28:19 AM
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Fooling means deceiving, and in its ultimate form, scamming, i.e. making use and taking advantage of the victim's lack of knowledge, as well as trust abuse.
If making use and taking of the victim's lack of knowledge is deceiving/scamming, then that is literally what casinos do. There are too many people who still fall for the typical trap of gambling businesses by thinking that casinos are out there to make you rich, and not to take your money.

Even this forum is filled up with "strategies" for different gambling games and that shows you just how easy a gambling business deceives you by making you think (i.e. Gambler's fallacy, credits to o_e_l_e_o for teaching me about it) a different session setup or seed would give you an advantage. If that's what deceiving is, then spike420211 has used the proper words.
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June 24, 2020, 05:31:54 AM
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If someone is keep winning more bets then casinos will intentionally ban them from playing there, this is biggest untold truth behind every successful casino.They offer lot of free perks for you to enjoy and make you guilty about not spending enough money.
I don't think that casino's will ban someone unless they are caught cheating or suspecting that they are cheating. Of course if you keep on winning, alarms will be raised and you will be put under the microscope. If didn't find anything suspicious then you are good, but we all know that  luck doesn't last. Sooner or later, the house edge will caught up on you.


If you play every day in casino and go home every night with some winnings, the casino security will definitely notice after a while. Security will first of all monitor and keep an eye on you if you are cheating or use any other other tricks like card counting before baning outright people from their casino.
And if you are just winning randomly big time on the roulette table there won't be any security coming to escort you out of the casino. Most of the times people who win big in casinos will gamble most of it away afterwards.
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June 24, 2020, 05:57:25 AM
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If someone is keep winning more bets then casinos will intentionally ban them from playing there, this is biggest untold truth behind every successful casino.They offer lot of free perks for you to enjoy and make you guilty about not spending enough money.

I guess the casino will not directly ban that person, but perhaps, they will watch closer on that person. And if he wins because of his luck, I think the casino will give something to stop him from playing another round because who knows, he can still win in the next round. That will make that person realize that he cannot continue playing gambling in that place, and that will be the right time to cash out his win money.

The casino will give you many things, so you can stay longer to spend more money playing many gambling games. And you will not realize that is the wrong thing that you do in the gambling games. But everything will be too late to realize when you lose a lot of money in gambling.
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June 24, 2020, 07:28:41 AM
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All the casinos are Packed with cameras. The number of cameras per square meter is huge. And no matter how perfect the cameras are, as well as the many places where they are placed, I think there is nothing better than professional people in the hall who are usually looking for cheaters.
I agree with that. But with the camera everywhere, that can help every security members in that place to get updated info from the office about the situations around them. The camera plus the security members will secure the place from the cheater.

Right. The interaction of the surveillance and security services in the game area can be seen perfectly in the movie "Next" starring Nicolas Cage.

If someone is keep winning more bets then casinos will intentionally ban them from playing there, this is biggest untold truth behind every successful casino.They offer lot of free perks for you to enjoy and make you guilty about not spending enough money.

Can such a ban be written in the casino rules so that each player can read it?
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June 24, 2020, 07:52:27 AM
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Fooling means deceiving, and in its ultimate form, scamming, i.e. making use and taking advantage of the victim's lack of knowledge, as well as trust abuse.
If making use and taking of the victim's lack of knowledge is deceiving/scamming, then that is literally what casinos do. There are too many people who still fall for the typical trap of gambling businesses by thinking that casinos are out there to make you rich, and not to take your money

Well, that instantly questions your own motives

If casinos are cheaters and swindlers, then why did you enroll in a casino signature campaign yourself? Or when money talks, bullshit walks? Is hypocrisy the right word to be used here? But seriously, how do you resolve these issues internally? How do you live with that?

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June 24, 2020, 04:31:29 PM
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If someone is keep winning more bets then casinos will intentionally ban them from playing there, this is biggest untold truth behind every successful casino.They offer lot of free perks for you to enjoy and make you guilty about not spending enough money.
I don't think that casino's will ban someone unless they are caught cheating or suspecting that they are cheating. Of course if you keep on winning, alarms will be raised and you will be put under the microscope. If didn't find anything suspicious then you are good, but we all know that  luck doesn't last. Sooner or later, the house edge will caught up on you.
They an't ban anyone simply because they are winning but in reality if someone make huge money from betting casinos won't let those people to play in their casino because if such players existed then casinos will go bankrupt.We can see lot of stories from gambler who were blacklisted for no reasons.

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June 24, 2020, 05:04:08 PM
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If someone is keep winning more bets then casinos will intentionally ban them from playing there, this is biggest untold truth behind every successful casino.They offer lot of free perks for you to enjoy and make you guilty about not spending enough money.
I don't think that casino's will ban someone unless they are caught cheating or suspecting that they are cheating. Of course if you keep on winning, alarms will be raised and you will be put under the microscope. If didn't find anything suspicious then you are good, but we all know that  luck doesn't last. Sooner or later, the house edge will caught up on you.
they do actually ban people for winning too much. if the casino keeps losing money to you they'll ban you and it won't matter if you are playing fairly they will simply claim that they find you in suspicion of cheating and will just escort you out the casino without properly checking if their claim is correct or not. there have been cases of gamblers that got banned just for winning too much.

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June 24, 2020, 05:09:22 PM
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Well, that instantly questions your own motives

If casinos are cheaters and swindlers, then why did you enroll in a casino signature campaign yourself? Or when money talks, bullshit walks? Is hypocrisy the right word to be used here? But seriously, how do you resolve these issues internally? How do you live with that?
So you're telling me that all those strategies casinos use aren't ways to bait customers and the ability of changing your session's setup doesn't almost always give you a false sense of having an advantage in the game? When you join a gambling session, you do so with an "I'm going to lose everything today!" mindset? I'm being realistic here.

I'm a gambler myself. This is basically why dice gambling is so entertaining: you are able to set your game differently every time to "change your outcome" when, in the end, it's either playing low chances with small amounts for a large outcome (which takes longer) or playing high chances with higher amounts for smaller but multiple outcomes (which takes shorter) but always gets to the same result: you either win or you don't. At least that's why it gets entertaining for me.

We both know that casinos are there to take your money. Realistically, it's likely that more people lose at the end of the day gambling but that doesn't take fun out of the equation. Without entertainment, gambling would've been grounded long time ago.

Following the same narrative I quoted from your reply, I shouldn't be talking about Bitcoin no more because most are deceived into thinking it's a constantly profitable investment or have absolutely no idea how to invest the right way, so in most cases it ends first in losses before they get to a profit.

If gamblers are always thinking casinos are places where you earn a lot of money or that different session setups give you an advantage, the reality is basically exactly the opposite yet a quick look over the Gambling discussion board gives you a very detailed view over how many have the "fallacy" mindset. Maybe saying it's a "collective deception" might've been more accurate than saying it's what casinos do. Smiley
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June 24, 2020, 05:38:31 PM
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If someone is keep winning more bets then casinos will intentionally ban them from playing there, this is biggest untold truth behind every successful casino.They offer lot of free perks for you to enjoy and make you guilty about not spending enough money.
Well, the only thing we have seen among many casinos when winning on their platform, is them monitoring your activities to find out the real secret behind your winnings. If they find you doing illegal stuff around the platform they will definitely get such gambler ban. Sometimes gamblers are lucky about their games, when this luck continue the platform always get some plans for such gamblers to override their luck to lost, this has happened to me in one of dice casino.

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June 24, 2020, 06:15:03 PM
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If someone is keep winning more bets then casinos will intentionally ban them from playing there, this is biggest untold truth behind every successful casino.They offer lot of free perks for you to enjoy and make you guilty about not spending enough money.
I don't think that casino's will ban someone unless they are caught cheating or suspecting that they are cheating. Of course if you keep on winning, alarms will be raised and you will be put under the microscope. If didn't find anything suspicious then you are good, but we all know that  luck doesn't last. Sooner or later, the house edge will caught up on you.
They an't ban anyone simply because they are winning but in reality if someone make huge money from betting casinos won't let those people to play in their casino because if such players existed then casinos will go bankrupt.We can see lot of stories from gambler who were blacklisted for no reasons.

It seems to me that everything depends primarily on the amounts that these people win, as well as on how often they bet. Sometimes casinos may use such people's winning histories as an example for other players.
As it is, I agree with you. No casino will not glad from the fact that someone is always winning.
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June 24, 2020, 07:52:55 PM
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If someone is keep winning more bets then casinos will intentionally ban them from playing there, this is biggest untold truth behind every successful casino.They offer lot of free perks for you to enjoy and make you guilty about not spending enough money.
I don't think that casino's will ban someone unless they are caught cheating or suspecting that they are cheating. Of course if you keep on winning, alarms will be raised and you will be put under the microscope. If didn't find anything suspicious then you are good, but we all know that  luck doesn't last. Sooner or later, the house edge will caught up on you.
They an't ban anyone simply because they are winning but in reality if someone make huge money from betting casinos won't let those people to play in their casino because if such players existed then casinos will go bankrupt.We can see lot of stories from gambler who were blacklisted for no reasons.

It seems to me that everything depends primarily on the amounts that these people win, as well as on how often they bet. Sometimes casinos may use such people's winning histories as an example for other players.
As it is, I agree with you. No casino will not glad from the fact that someone is always winning.
If we look at the life of people in those stories, most of them already lost all their money into gambling again or just left the gambling career and started investment career.

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June 24, 2020, 09:04:46 PM
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If we look at the life of people in those stories, most of them already lost all their money into gambling again or just left the gambling career and started investment career.

If people after a large number of losses left their gambling career and took up another business, this is a good result. It is much worse if people constantly lose and keep playing and playing.
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June 25, 2020, 11:53:11 PM
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If we look at the life of people in those stories, most of them already lost all their money into gambling again or just left the gambling career and started investment career.

If people after a large number of losses left their gambling career and took up another business, this is a good result. It is much worse if people constantly lose and keep playing and playing.

That kind of person will be in deep debt later on. If a player has no self control in gambling, that's when he starts experiencing problems not only financially, but emotionally. There is no trick in casinos as their main objective is to really make money. So the choice is left to the player if he wants to be buried on that life or not.
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June 26, 2020, 03:57:22 AM
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If we look at the life of people in those stories, most of them already lost all their money into gambling again or just left the gambling career and started investment career.

If people after a large number of losses left their gambling career and took up another business, this is a good result. It is much worse if people constantly lose and keep playing and playing.

That kind of person will be in deep debt later on. If a player has no self control in gambling, that's when he starts experiencing problems not only financially, but emotionally. There is no trick in casinos as their main objective is to really make money. So the choice is left to the player if he wants to be buried on that life or not.

If he can avoid taking a loan when he loses and run out of his money, then that will be no problem, although he still has the experience of losing big money. But it is hard to start a new business after losing a lot of money in gambling because we will feel desperate for some time, and we will not have something to help us to rise. But that will not take too long if he has someone that cares with him, so that person can suggest him do something to forget the losses and start to wake up. Every gambler needs to realize that gambling is for having fun, and stop before losing a lot of money will be necessary.
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June 26, 2020, 05:00:39 AM
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If we look at the life of people in those stories, most of them already lost all their money into gambling again or just left the gambling career and started investment career.

If people after a large number of losses left their gambling career and took up another business, this is a good result. It is much worse if people constantly lose and keep playing and playing.

That kind of person will be in deep debt later on. If a player has no self control in gambling, that's when he starts experiencing problems not only financially, but emotionally. There is no trick in casinos as their main objective is to really make money. So the choice is left to the player if he wants to be buried on that life or not.

I think we can help those people.

I know that it is their fault being burned out or maybe being addicted to gambling(that I hope did not happen) but we should help them in some ways. We have long threads here about the negative effects of gambling and most of the people here knew how bad it is, it might be hard but in a way, we should help those people. It is not late for them to change.
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June 26, 2020, 05:20:19 AM
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If we look at the life of people in those stories, most of them already lost all their money into gambling again or just left the gambling career and started investment career.

If people after a large number of losses left their gambling career and took up another business, this is a good result. It is much worse if people constantly lose and keep playing and playing.
Then thats the addiction will be present because we if we continue playing when the truth is we are not winning?That is addicting and needs to be cured/.

How many times do we need to learn the result of failure before we accept the fact that gambling is really made for fun and not for profit?
If someone is keep winning more bets then casinos will intentionally ban them from playing there, this is biggest untold truth behind every successful casino.They offer lot of free perks for you to enjoy and make you guilty about not spending enough money.
of the casino will find ways to cut the winning streak ,because banning is difficult to do if they cannot prove that you are cheating.









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June 26, 2020, 11:31:03 AM
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Well, that instantly questions your own motives

If casinos are cheaters and swindlers, then why did you enroll in a casino signature campaign yourself? Or when money talks, bullshit walks? Is hypocrisy the right word to be used here? But seriously, how do you resolve these issues internally? How do you live with that?
So you're telling me that all those strategies casinos use aren't ways to bait customers and the ability of changing your session's setup doesn't almost always give you a false sense of having an advantage in the game? When you join a gambling session, you do so with an "I'm going to lose everything today!" mindset? I'm being realistic here

No, I'm not telling you this. It is your invention

We both know that casinos are there to take your money. Realistically, it's likely that more people lose at the end of the day gambling but that doesn't take fun out of the equation. Without entertainment, gambling would've been grounded long time ago

You don't see the forest for the trees

Yes, it could be said that casinos are there to take our shekels and nickels. But it doesn't follow from this that they are cheaters, liars, and swindlers. For example, if they are rigging the odds or outright manipulating the outcomes, they would be, and we would be justified in saying so. However, if they are not, it is a far cry from:

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If making use and taking of the victim's lack of knowledge is deceiving/scamming, then that is literally what casinos do. There are too many people who still fall for the typical trap of gambling businesses by thinking that casinos are out there to make you rich, and not to take your money

When you register with a casino, you agree to the Terms and Conditions (under whatever name). It is there for a reason, and here's one for your reading pleasure. So, if you agree to these terms without actually reading and understanding them, you can't really claim lack of knowledge, which your idea essentially comes down to. See, once you sign up, you may no longer plead innocent

Following the same narrative I quoted from your reply, I shouldn't be talking about Bitcoin no more because most are deceived into thinking it's a constantly profitable investment or have absolutely no idea how to invest the right way, so in most cases it ends first in losses before they get to a profit

I always advise against doing this in the way you mean it (Bitcoin as a profitable investment)

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