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July 12, 2020, 10:55:41 AM
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That's the main goal of casinos, to rekt the players as much as they can.
You said it right, this is a gambling business where the house needs to be profitable so they can operate the business continuously.

They even offer loans just for the player to go on. So if the player is not smart enough and just go with the flow, he will find himself in deep trouble even before he goes out of the casino. As a gambler, you should know your limits before you go inside. Don't be tempted with offers and other bonuses because that's their job, to keep the player as much as possible.
I've seen that most in movies but actually I have no idea what are the terms or anything related on why and how casino would offer a loan to its gambler.
There are loan sharks in a casino AFAIK, but are these people work with the casinos directly or they could be a separate entity? Either way, I don't think they would just easily lend a gambler without knowing the capacity to pay, so if a typical gambler plays in a casino, and lose and try to borrow, he can't expect to get approved.

As for me, I'm just lucky that I gamble at home most of the time, or... I think all the time.  Grin
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July 12, 2020, 11:35:13 AM
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That's the main goal of casinos, to rekt the players as much as they can.
You said it right, this is a gambling business where the house needs to be profitable so they can operate the business continuously.

They even offer loans just for the player to go on. So if the player is not smart enough and just go with the flow, he will find himself in deep trouble even before he goes out of the casino. As a gambler, you should know your limits before you go inside. Don't be tempted with offers and other bonuses because that's their job, to keep the player as much as possible.
I've seen that most in movies but actually I have no idea what are the terms or anything related on why and how casino would offer a loan to its gambler.
There are loan sharks in a casino AFAIK, but are these people work with the casinos directly or they could be a separate entity? Either way, I don't think they would just easily lend a gambler without knowing the capacity to pay, so if a typical gambler plays in a casino, and lose and try to borrow, he can't expect to get approved.

As for me, I'm just lucky that I gamble at home most of the time, or... I think all the time.  Grin

I've heard before that there are loan sharks operating on casinos. Their target are those big time players who are losing. They let the player borrow huge amount of money in exchange of their cars, property's, etc. I've read that its a 2 percent per day interest in one of the casinos in my country, its really illegal and a problem for the authority. It will make the borrower really lose all his belongings if he will continue to lose.

I think, the casinos knew it, they are part of it, and they already knew who will be the person before they let them borrow a huge amount, they will be the one to offer so I guess they will get ID or just like what I've said before, any belongings the gambler can give for the borrowed money.

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July 12, 2020, 12:36:20 PM
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I've heard before that there are loan sharks operating on casinos. Their target are those big time players who are losing. They let the player borrow huge amount of money in exchange of their cars, property's, etc. I've read that its a 2 percent per day interest in one of the casinos in my country, its really illegal and a problem for the authority. It will make the borrower really lose all his belongings if he will continue to lose.

I think, the casinos knew it, they are part of it, and they already knew who will be the person before they let them borrow a huge amount, they will be the one to offer so I guess they will get ID or just like what I've said before, any belongings the gambler can give for the borrowed money.

2 percent per day interest? That means 730% interest per year. Is that much even allowed legally? In my country, there is an upper limit on the interest level that you can charge. If I am not wrong, it is around 18% per year. If the interest rate is above that level, then you can't legally create a loan agreement and even if you create one, it won't be valid in the courts.
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July 12, 2020, 02:43:34 PM
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That's the main goal of casinos, to rekt the players as much as they can

Personally, I don't think this is a viable business model

Casinos are interested in a sustainable cash flow, first and foremost, and that means retaining their customers (as the poster you replied to hinted at). I don't think you are going to come back after having been rekt. Therefore, casinos are not in fact interested in you losing all your money. Instead, they are interested in you receiving satisfaction in exchange for your precious shekels, as any other legit business out there

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July 12, 2020, 11:00:45 PM
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It should be and must have always in mind when you do deal up with things rather than forcing this gambling activity as a main source of income will surely fucked you up along the way.

Lots of perception or beliefs will really push you hard to play since you do know the odds into your mind then its just normal for you to act or trying to enforce it.

Houses will surely do all lots of stuff for them to retain out their players on longest time as possible until they do put up a hole into their pockets in the end of the day.

In fact, when I play in a casino, I never count the chances of winning. Beer and beautiful butt girls do not give time to think about it.  Grin I understand that my chances of winning at the casino are very small. That's enough.
Of course, there is an opportunity to win. It is necessary for us to play in the casino, but the percentage of winnings is much less than the percentage of losses.
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July 12, 2020, 11:59:26 PM
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It should be and must have always in mind when you do deal up with things rather than forcing this gambling activity as a main source of income will surely fucked you up along the way.

Lots of perception or beliefs will really push you hard to play since you do know the odds into your mind then its just normal for you to act or trying to enforce it.

Houses will surely do all lots of stuff for them to retain out their players on longest time as possible until they do put up a hole into their pockets in the end of the day.

In fact, when I play in a casino, I never count the chances of winning. Beer and beautiful butt girls do not give time to think about it.  Grin I understand that my chances of winning at the casino are very small. That's enough.
Of course, there is an opportunity to win. It is necessary for us to play in the casino, but the percentage of winnings is much less than the percentage of losses.
Gambling do always mean on losing your money in the end thats why it is just a good mindset for you to have that you already anticipate that you do lose all of your funds in the end of the day.

which would really make you not frustrated in the end of the line because you are already expecting it and i do agree on what you had said that i did love those beer and beautiful butt girls when

i do come to these places.

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July 13, 2020, 05:11:36 AM
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•The reason there are no clocks and windows at casinos are because they don't want to let the users leave !Plus they often give free drinks to make your judgement bad and lavender of ofc Making you drowsy .
•If you want to eat or to go to restroom or to even cash out your Chips , you have to go deeper and which actually means , go through more games , that one last game makes people loose a lot of money.
•Casinos are designed like a maze so that the user might face problems in finding the EXIT , so you will play more ~

I quoted these points, as I find it quite biased to the side of casino always winning. Casinos not having clocks and doors might really affect the psychological thinking of a gambler to spend more time in gambling thus, we should be more aware of the situation before we enter a casino. I don't believe that you should likely spend more time in order to cash out, as it takes your rights to decide if they will push you to play more before allowing you to cash out your funds. If some casinos are like that, I would rather choose another casino. But thinking about it logically, you cash in to play, so why to cash it out without even playing? That is for emergency reasons whenever you need to leave. Lastly, Casinos actually have a personnel who will guide you through the casino, if ever you can't find the exit, you can always ask them because it is their job to walk you through.
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July 13, 2020, 05:25:17 AM
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•The reason there are no clocks and windows at casinos are because they don't want to let the users leave !Plus they often give free drinks to make your judgement bad and lavender of ofc Making you drowsy .
•If you want to eat or to go to restroom or to even cash out your Chips , you have to go deeper and which actually means , go through more games , that one last game makes people loose a lot of money.
•Casinos are designed like a maze so that the user might face problems in finding the EXIT , so you will play more ~

I quoted these points, as I find it quite biased to the side of casino always winning. Casinos not having clocks and doors might really affect the psychological thinking of a gambler to spend more time in gambling thus, we should be more aware of the situation before we enter a casino. I don't believe that you should likely spend more time in order to cash out, as it takes your rights to decide if they will push you to play more before allowing you to cash out your funds. If some casinos are like that, I would rather choose another casino. But thinking about it logically, you cash in to play, so why to cash it out without even playing? That is for emergency reasons whenever you need to leave. Lastly, Casinos actually have a personnel who will guide you through the casino, if ever you can't find the exit, you can always ask them because it is their job to walk you through.

Well tips and tricks are well known, if you ever watched brain games on national geography you could see that how can someone play with our minds on some levels. Just that games are games, strong character always wins in the end, as you said who wish to find exist will ask, who wish to cash out will do that anyway, nothing can stop them.
These tricks are for big casinos in big cities, for example the biggest casino in my town is not so big at all, they can't put a maze there, from every spot in that casino you see the exit!

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July 13, 2020, 07:56:24 AM
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Gambling do always mean on losing your money in the end thats why it is just a good mindset for you to have that you already anticipate that you do lose all of your funds in the end of the day.

which would really make you not frustrated in the end of the line because you are already expecting it and i do agree on what you had said that i did love those beer and beautiful butt girls when

i do come to these places.

Managing your expectation in gambling is very important. But it all breaks down to what you want to do. If you want to spend a hole evening and try to have fun, it's likely you will lose your funds. But if you want to make money there are decent chances. Like this one guy a long time a go who sold his house just to bet everything (I think it was $150k) on one roulette spins. The odds of close to 50% are fairly okay for a one time try to double up, or lose everything. For making money I would always prefer higher risks and just hope to be lucky. With following a system for the hole night I always end up losing.
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July 13, 2020, 10:04:09 AM
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Managing your expectation in gambling is very important. But it all breaks down to what you want to do.

Indeed, it's all about expectations and how you manage to escalate everything. If you have strategy or you are just playing for fun.

If you want to spend a whole evening and try to have fun, it's likely you will lose your funds. But if you want to make money there are decent chances.

If you know how to control there's a decent chance to win, it's mostly about how you deal with your stay.

Like this one guy a long time a go who sold his house just to bet everything (I think it was $150k) on one roulette spins.
The odds of close to 50% are fairly okay for a one time try to double up, or lose everything.

Result is just between winning or losing, it's how you accept everything and willing to take the risk.

For making money I would always prefer higher risks and just hope to be lucky. With following a system for the whole night I always end up losing.

That's the case, as you can also try using other strategy and check the chance to win.
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July 13, 2020, 10:25:23 AM
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It should be and must have always in mind when you do deal up with things rather than forcing this gambling activity as a main source of income will surely fucked you up along the way.

Lots of perception or beliefs will really push you hard to play since you do know the odds into your mind then its just normal for you to act or trying to enforce it.

Houses will surely do all lots of stuff for them to retain out their players on longest time as possible until they do put up a hole into their pockets in the end of the day.

In fact, when I play in a casino, I never count the chances of winning. Beer and beautiful butt girls do not give time to think about it. 
hahaha,you made me smile there lol,Because i can feel you when i am playing those beautiful girl and their Butts and Boobs took my attention sometimes it distracts me from my betting strategy lol.
Grin I understand that my chances of winning at the casino are very small. That's enough.
great Out view seems like you gamble for fun most of the time and not just to win at all?
Of course, there is an opportunity to win. It is necessary for us to play in the casino, but the percentage of winnings is much less than the percentage of losses.
Winning is part of Gambling but if we will only focus on this part then maybe failure is what we mostly got,Better enjoy the game and just let the winning flows.

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July 13, 2020, 10:53:09 AM
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It should be and must have always in mind when you do deal up with things rather than forcing this gambling activity as a main source of income will surely fucked you up along the way.

Lots of perception or beliefs will really push you hard to play since you do know the odds into your mind then its just normal for you to act or trying to enforce it.

Houses will surely do all lots of stuff for them to retain out their players on longest time as possible until they do put up a hole into their pockets in the end of the day.

In fact, when I play in a casino, I never count the chances of winning. Beer and beautiful butt girls do not give time to think about it. 
hahaha,you made me smile there lol,Because i can feel you when i am playing those beautiful girl and their Butts and Boobs took my attention sometimes it distracts me from my betting strategy lol.

Hahaha, the girls will always distract our attention and make us can not focus on the games. Maybe the girl is hired by the owner to give another pleasure to the customer, and yes, they did that Grin


Winning is part of Gambling but if we will only focus on this part then maybe failure is what we mostly got,Better enjoy the game and just let the winning flows.


If you can focus, it doesn't give you much chance if you don't have luck. You can hope that when you can focus on the game, your luck will come to you to win the game.

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July 13, 2020, 11:01:43 AM
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That's the main goal of casinos, to rekt the players as much as they can.
You said it right, this is a gambling business where the house needs to be profitable so they can operate the business continuously.

They even offer loans just for the player to go on. So if the player is not smart enough and just go with the flow, he will find himself in deep trouble even before he goes out of the casino. As a gambler, you should know your limits before you go inside. Don't be tempted with offers and other bonuses because that's their job, to keep the player as much as possible.
I've seen that most in movies but actually I have no idea what are the terms or anything related on why and how casino would offer a loan to its gambler.
There are loan sharks in a casino AFAIK, but are these people work with the casinos directly or they could be a separate entity? Either way, I don't think they would just easily lend a gambler without knowing the capacity to pay, so if a typical gambler plays in a casino, and lose and try to borrow, he can't expect to get approved.

As for me, I'm just lucky that I gamble at home most of the time, or... I think all the time.  Grin

I've heard before that there are loan sharks operating on casinos. Their target are those big time players who are losing. They let the player borrow huge amount of money in exchange of their cars, property's, etc. I've read that its a 2 percent per day interest in one of the casinos in my country, its really illegal and a problem for the authority. It will make the borrower really lose all his belongings if he will continue to lose.

That's a huge interest charge on a daily basis, but I am not sure if its illegal because no one could arrest a lender even if they offer a high interest rate since they are not forcing a person to borrow the money, they are just taking advantage but lending money instantly comes with a huge risk also, so it's justifiable to give that rate, in the end it's up to the borrower if he will take it.

I think, the casinos knew it, they are part of it, and they already knew who will be the person before they let them borrow a huge amount, they will be the one to offer so I guess they will get ID or just like what I've said before, any belongings the gambler can give for the borrowed money.


Like you said in above post, "their target are big time players" so they definitely know the gambler well before they release the money.
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July 13, 2020, 10:09:35 PM
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Gambling do always mean on losing your money in the end thats why it is just a good mindset for you to have that you already anticipate that you do lose all of your funds in the end of the day.

which would really make you not frustrated in the end of the line because you are already expecting it and i do agree on what you had said that i did love those beer and beautiful butt girls when

i do come to these places.

You correctly noticed when you said that I have no illusions when going to the casino. When I go to gamble I understand that I will most likely lose my money, so I do not get upset when this happens. And when I win (which is rare), I am doubly happy)
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Gambling do always mean on losing your money in the end thats why it is just a good mindset for you to have that you already anticipate that you do lose all of your funds in the end of the day.

which would really make you not frustrated in the end of the line because you are already expecting it and i do agree on what you had said that i did love those beer and beautiful butt girls when

i do come to these places.

You correctly noticed when you said that I have no illusions when going to the casino. When I go to gamble I understand that I will most likely lose my money, so I do not get upset when this happens. And when I win (which is rare), I am doubly happy)
But setting your mind as well on positivity will improve how you play and I guess it's better we have both; we may win or we may lose that's gambling literally.

Though most really of the time it's not lucky as it seems but as what others say "gamble/trade what you can afford to lose".
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July 14, 2020, 03:29:59 AM
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If we have the right knowledge about gambling then we can easily reduce the risk but before that we have to think positively keeping our mindset right Negative puts everything at a loss I also believe that gambling depends on luck but don't despair even if you face losses. Because only if we make a mistake can we move on to the next step.

Also in some games customers get the opportunity to bet directly against each other and the casino house takes some commission from here. This is called rack In addition various offers are offered by the casino to keep the customers interested That's why it's so easy to make a profit.

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July 14, 2020, 05:06:49 PM
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That's the main goal of casinos, to rekt the players as much as they can

Personally, I don't think this is a viable business model

Casinos are interested in a sustainable cash flow, first and foremost, and that means retaining their customers (as the poster you replied to hinted at). I don't think you are going to come back after having been rekt. Therefore, casinos are not in fact interested in you losing all your money. Instead, they are interested in you receiving satisfaction in exchange for your precious shekels, as any other legit business out there
I agree, casinos are like any business, would you return to a restaurant that you know is ripping you off? The answer is obviously no and soon enough that restaurant will go out of business as it gets a bad reputation, and the same is true for casinos, most of the profits of casinos comes from repeat customers, obviously they want to beat the player but not so much that he gets frustrated and vows to never come back, in fact it is in the best interests of casinos that some players win from time to time so they can tell their stories of their good nights in the casino and bring even more players.

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July 14, 2020, 08:29:09 PM
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Gambling do always mean on losing your money in the end thats why it is just a good mindset for you to have that you already anticipate that you do lose all of your funds in the end of the day.

which would really make you not frustrated in the end of the line because you are already expecting it and i do agree on what you had said that i did love those beer and beautiful butt girls when

i do come to these places.

You correctly noticed when you said that I have no illusions when going to the casino. When I go to gamble I understand that I will most likely lose my money, so I do not get upset when this happens. And when I win (which is rare), I am doubly happy)
But setting your mind as well on positivity will improve how you play and I guess it's better we have both; we may win or we may lose that's gambling literally.

Though most really of the time it's not lucky as it seems but as what others say "gamble/trade what you can afford to lose".

I have long noticed that everything is better done with a good mood. It works much better this way.
I don't understand why I should go to a casino and feel sad about losing money. After all, you lose money, roughly speaking, pay for the game, drink and atmosphere, and you still lose a good mood.
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July 14, 2020, 08:49:56 PM
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Casinos are interested in a sustainable cash flow, first and foremost, and that means retaining their customers (as the poster you replied to hinted at). I don't think you are going to come back after having been rekt. Therefore, casinos are not in fact interested in you losing all your money. Instead, they are interested in you receiving satisfaction in exchange for your precious shekels, as any other legit business out there
I agree, casinos are like any business, would you return to a restaurant that you know is ripping you off? The answer is obviously no and soon enough that restaurant will go out of business as it gets a bad reputation, and the same is true for casinos, most of the profits of casinos comes from repeat customers, obviously they want to beat the player but not so much that he gets frustrated and vows to never come back, in fact it is in the best interests of casinos that some players win from time to time so they can tell their stories of their good nights in the casino and bring even more players

There's definitely a certain optimum point on the profit-generating curve

For simplicity's sake, we could basically agree that this curve takes the form of house edge values as a variable. If the house edge is, say, 5%, this is an onerous rip-off indeed. However, making it too low, e.g. below 0.5% would (allegedly) hurt the casino's profits without a sufficient increase in their client base (whether it is actually true remains to be seen, though). So, the house edge went down over the years to some optimal value established experimentally, which seems to be around 1%, with some options like rakeback pushing it even lower

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July 14, 2020, 10:27:44 PM
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I have long noticed that everything is better done with a good mood. It works much better this way.
I don't understand why I should go to a casino and feel sad about losing money. After all, you lose money, roughly speaking, pay for the game, drink and atmosphere, and you still lose a good mood.
mode only detemine by the things that trigger it and not just by deciding to be in good even things go bad. I do not know how you made a conclusion for that but I guess that you have master your mode by yourself or probably you just don't know how feelings being made. Anyway, i just thought also that you know how to motivate yourself when things go wrong. But this is not all about mode instead it is all about motivation.

Casino are creates for the purpose and fun with excitement through betting. This should always be on their logo to keep all the users aware that they are just there to make some fun socializing with other users.
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