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June 30, 2020, 01:13:28 PM
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If I may ask, what is your next step?
Everything is done for now but when we get the next task set your at the front of the line. What are your general thoughts on Zenoribbon? There is a booklet describing Zenoribbon at zenoribbon.freeforums.net. The next task set might not be for a few months because a security app will have to be written designed for more easy manual verifications than what we were able to do with the tasks on this thread.

Zenoribbon is part of Zeronet, which as an oversimplified explanation is a layer over Tor that makes it easy to provide anonymous web hosting service which would include transaction ledger service for Zenoribbon. And both Zenoribbon and Zeronet are part of Rainbow Road, which is a plan for decentralization of all power structures.
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June 30, 2020, 01:20:19 PM
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If I may ask, what is your next step?
Everything is done for now but when we get the next task set your at the front of the line. What are your general thoughts on Zenoribbon? There is a booklet describing Zenoribbon at zenoribbon.freeforums.net. The next task set might not be for a few months because a security app will have to be written designed for more easy manual verifications than what we were able to do with the tasks on this thread.

Zenoribbon is part of Zeronet, which as an oversimplified explanation is a layer over Tor that makes it easy to provide anonymous web hosting service which would include transaction ledger service for Zenoribbon. And both Zenoribbon and Zeronet are part of Rainbow Road, which is a plan for decentralization of all power structures.

I meant what are your next steps for your project? The idea behind it interests me and I’m just curious as to where you go from here.
My overall thoughts is the idea is very promising, but as someone mentioned before, any time you have something manually done you open yourself up to potential scammers. It does seem that you have thought that part out so it isn’t as big of a worry as it might be.
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June 30, 2020, 01:30:39 PM
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Task 2 of 4 Submission:

Evaluation:

Honor to: 0nP5UpmI3+m9Uk1qf8fMQK3drWwS7p4+sLSZu7iepnFv1rHUJElJqDjQtYJLfWM/jW1e/LwdLn69g1bdLvuyCQ==
Hash of Evaluation Statement: jlSdGzZ2AJeTFMg6eIvxIVIjv2rIsdgf4Zhi4UEVGSjF4KIOGgHfzcV+dyNnKCVkjNIqjJrd23KD2A/5Ues+Rg==
Signature: CbahL8t1TE/wp3pmNhSDQ7ubH1tQ2kjs7Fx0p3FD1Yp1T9anJVJNXnjXRDd4J52JSMBTCXlAgvAmCGh5F5yjCw==
Public Key: SNEw1GN/FuTzcN3LJJLXt8erw7zkhnl4MQJ5GESNz98=


Finally got it right. (Thanks to your new update). sad to hear it's the end of the evaluation. Can we become evaluators in the future when it goes live? Got to learn a thing a two. Thank you.

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June 30, 2020, 01:54:26 PM
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Everything is done for now but when we get the next task set your at the front of the line. What are your general thoughts on Zenoribbon? There is a booklet describing Zenoribbon at zenoribbon.freeforums.net. The next task set might not be for a few months because a security app will have to be written designed for more easy manual verifications than what we were able to do with the tasks on this thread.

Zenoribbon is part of Zeronet, which as an oversimplified explanation is a layer over Tor that makes it easy to provide anonymous web hosting service which would include transaction ledger service for Zenoribbon. And both Zenoribbon and Zeronet are part of Rainbow Road, which is a plan for decentralization of all power structures.
I am also very interested to learn more about Zenoribbon and to support you in your research as best as I can!

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June 30, 2020, 05:49:40 PM
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If I may ask, what is your next step?
Everything is done for now but when we get the next task set your at the front of the line. What are your general thoughts on Zenoribbon? There is a booklet describing Zenoribbon at zenoribbon.freeforums.net. The next task set might not be for a few months because a security app will have to be written designed for more easy manual verifications than what we were able to do with the tasks on this thread.

Zenoribbon is part of Zeronet, which as an oversimplified explanation is a layer over Tor that makes it easy to provide anonymous web hosting service which would include transaction ledger service for Zenoribbon. And both Zenoribbon and Zeronet are part of Rainbow Road, which is a plan for decentralization of all power structures.

I meant what are your next steps for your project? The idea behind it interests me and I’m just curious as to where you go from here.
My overall thoughts is the idea is very promising, but as someone mentioned before, any time you have something manually done you open yourself up to potential scammers. It does seem that you have thought that part out so it isn’t as big of a worry as it might be.
One focus right now beyond a manual review security system (as currently uses the TweetNaCl page) is to release a general purpose "universal" API so that any and all "Service Cogs" can connect to each other which would include cogs for transaction of the claimchain ledger. A service cog is basically a web service (like chaimclain ledger evaluation service) that can just as easily be run solely for a local machine as it can be offered as a paid remote service. So, that API will likely use sockets so that there is little difference when a service is run locally compared to remotely.

A service cog will start out as a compliant python script that can function as an anonymous Tor service (in this case for Zenoribbon transaction processing). We really want such services to also be set up if possible, very importantly, over proxy service using one or more hops to enable regular browser interactions without .onion which is not yet widely supported by browsers. The point is to make it easy to set up and resell a device computing power for uncensored web hosting purposes, over Tor or proxy service. The general attitude is that if their is a will, there is a way. And if there is long hard work and dedication to such ends, this will all be accomplished.

The API uses a RAMDISK for memory with the encouragement for all Zenoribbon (or Zeronet) related service cogs to exclusively store all variables on the RAMDISK in human-readable text format. Transparency and total comprehension are really a key feature for Zenoribbon at all angles. The RAMDISK has been coded for release for Linux but has not been released yet. Technically its not a RAMDISK and is actually a tmpfs system, but Windows does not support that and so will need to be a RAMDISK on Windows. That code is due to be released in July.
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June 30, 2020, 06:04:06 PM
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Everything is done for now but when we get the next task set your at the front of the line. What are your general thoughts on Zenoribbon? There is a booklet describing Zenoribbon at zenoribbon.freeforums.net. The next task set might not be for a few months because a security app will have to be written designed for more easy manual verifications than what we were able to do with the tasks on this thread.

Zenoribbon is part of Zeronet, which as an oversimplified explanation is a layer over Tor that makes it easy to provide anonymous web hosting service which would include transaction ledger service for Zenoribbon. And both Zenoribbon and Zeronet are part of Rainbow Road, which is a plan for decentralization of all power structures.
I am also very interested to learn more about Zenoribbon and to support you in your research as best as I can!
Thanks very much, I suppose I will create a Zenoribbon coding thread to copy all our developments to. I appreciate that offer and will keep you in my IM contact list!

As I just mentioned in the above comment, a coder (Triturian) is coding a communications-by-socket API that should be able to work as both a (paid or unpaid) remote service and as a local service. That API will allow the transaction ledger services to be automated and anonymous. So, the application API is being coded before the application itself.
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June 30, 2020, 06:16:13 PM
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Task 2 of 4 Submission:

Evaluation:

Honor to: 0nP5UpmI3+m9Uk1qf8fMQK3drWwS7p4+sLSZu7iepnFv1rHUJElJqDjQtYJLfWM/jW1e/LwdLn69g1bdLvuyCQ==
Hash of Evaluation Statement: jlSdGzZ2AJeTFMg6eIvxIVIjv2rIsdgf4Zhi4UEVGSjF4KIOGgHfzcV+dyNnKCVkjNIqjJrd23KD2A/5Ues+Rg==
Signature: CbahL8t1TE/wp3pmNhSDQ7ubH1tQ2kjs7Fx0p3FD1Yp1T9anJVJNXnjXRDd4J52JSMBTCXlAgvAmCGh5F5yjCw==
Public Key: SNEw1GN/FuTzcN3LJJLXt8erw7zkhnl4MQJ5GESNz98=


Finally got it right. (Thanks to your new update). sad to hear it's the end of the evaluation. Can we become evaluators in the future when it goes live? Got to learn a thing a two. Thank you.
Good, I was able to verify this, thanks for your time! Yes, you can be a future evaluator, because we will be customizing TweetNaCl to be more Zenoribbon friendly if feathertone (who would be the dev for that) is up for that. He already coded something similar for RSA signatures, so maybe Wireguard standards will also be something realistic. The automated version is ideally no more difficult than what Bitcoin client is already doing though, involving simply running the app and it validates everything in the background.
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June 30, 2020, 06:46:41 PM
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Interesting, slowly a puzzle of your words begins to fit together.
Of course it's a complex subject.
I admire your technical skill and thinking.
An effective application would be great, also to make it easier for me to understand and participate in everything without mistakes.

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June 30, 2020, 08:36:16 PM
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I've see you sent me another $10/BTCTC.
So, I've already received a total of $25/BTCTC from you instead $15/BTCTC!
Is that correct?
Otherwise I will gladly return the eventually false routed amount.

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July 01, 2020, 01:50:38 AM
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Anyways, please let me know I'm doing it correctly -


Honor to: 0nP5UpmI3+m9Uk1qf8fMQK3drWwS7p4+sLSZu7iepnFv1rHUJElJqDjQtYJLfWM/jW1e/LwdLn69g1bdLvuyCQ==
Hash of Evaluation Statement: 8e549d1b367600979314c83a788bf1215223bf6ac8b1d81fe19862e141151928c5e0a20e1a01dfc dc57e7723672825648cd22a8c9adddb7283d80ff951eb3e46
Signature: KDSO1U8PsyxNvAV94iWqOPpbvVsGpxTFF6kiRC3u4Y7Zbb8507DMKDX3UOKH/jUjM4OI2iVDbYVefmOWQ3oWBw==
Public Key: 372Nwk1C2Dl10LV9cMS91D4deoksw0xKLDCXjU6heNs=


P.S. I forgot to save my private key so I generated a new one.
Thanks, this did verify, though it added a space to the hash as usual making it difficult to verify. I'd recommend saving your public key as that key  being an early evaluator is street cred for when the evaluation service is released.

Thank you, do I need to fix it? Or it's fine for now?
Please let me know if there's anything else I can help with.
Well there is nothing broken with your message. Its just that any long hash copied and pasted from this forum seems to have space added when pasting the text. Tasks 3 and 4 are canceled as described above in my response to sinereinzz so you're now done with all tasks, thank you for your time! Optionally you can let me know if you understand the concept behind retrocast messaging transactions. I will relay payment within 24 hours.

Thanks for confirming this. I was a bit confused at the start, but after the detailed explanation, I believe now I understand the concept behind it.
Please let me know if there's anything else I can help with in the future, thanks!
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July 01, 2020, 11:46:41 AM
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I've see you sent me another $10/BTCTC.
So, I've already received a total of $25/BTCTC from you instead $15/BTCTC!
Is that correct?
Otherwise I will gladly return the eventually false routed amount.
I provided a bonus because you went the extra mile with color coding and additional instructions. The extra effort is appreciated.
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July 01, 2020, 12:49:54 PM
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Okay, then I know about it.
You not have to do this!
I was happy to do it...
Of course I'm happy about the extra payment... Thank you very much for this, again.

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July 01, 2020, 07:26:31 PM
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I know it's not necessarily valuable.
However, congratulations to your rank up. @Zippy
I mean the 'Jr.Member' status is always looks better for me than the 'Newbie' status, i think... Cheesy

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Hello, @Zippy. Just wanted to say thank you for the opportunity. I had received the rewards for evaluation. I got to learn a bit above how hashing, making and using signatures work. I saw that TweetNaCl is available on github. I wanted to know if contributions are welcomed. I have a bit of experience working with frontend technologies. Once again, thank you. If there's a need for further evaluation in the future, I'm up for it.


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