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July 05, 2020, 05:57:05 PM |
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I've been on this forum long enough to see perhaps hundreds of casinos come and go. They keep appearing and dying shortly afterward all the time, and I wonder why people still take such a high risk of opening a casino when there is a close to 100% chance your casino will fail That's kinda normal The majority of startups (like 90% or something to that tune) fail within their first year. Nassim Taleb says (and I generally agree with him) that it is required for the industry as a whole to prosper. More or less, people take risks because people are risky overall, and the rewards are high. Besides, entrepreneurs reveal more optimistic attitude toward life, and thus they are prone to underestimate the risks and overestimate their abilities This got me thinking about popular casinos. Of course, we all know the names. But they are usually years old, not anything from 2019-2020. The one exception is Stake.com, but I wouldn't count it as an example of a new casino appearing out of nowhere and attracting gamblers because it did not come out of nowhere (it's owned by Primedice). Is it just me or are there virtually no recent casinos that got popular? Or can you name some examples? And in general, do you think new casinos appearing in 2020 stand a chance against those with solid reputation and long time on the market? Let me guess, many have already mentioned wolf.bet
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July 05, 2020, 07:39:34 PM |
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There are casinos that survive for example wolf.bet who are doing nothing extraordinary or any out of the world experience but what they have done is, they have ensured consistency because myself as a gambler it feels very risky to deposit in a new casino and only way crypto casinos can make their stand is by being consistent.
Even a small problem with a casino means they loose the gambler forever and I don't want to be rude but that is one reason why cloudbet is less popular than sportsbet.io because with cloudbet they came earlier i think in the market but they always had some issues with their gamblers while sportsbet.io remained consistent and personally I never had any issues with them in fact their support system is pretty good and only better support in my mind is stake's support.
So, little things and consistency makes up for the large stand for a new casino.
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July 05, 2020, 09:21:55 PM |
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~snip~ Hence to get some attention, newer casinos should bring something new and unique to get attention of the users.
I have here in the forum for how many years this is what I have been witnesses in some newer casino. They put a lot of effort to do their marketing strategies, having giveaways, bonuses, and promotions as well just to have build trust in the community. These are the way to have a unique style to get the gambler's attention. There's nothing wrong with the new, new gambling site is very exciting to explore new features that you never encounter. I think if you don't trust because this is newly launched, why not just try a small amount and experience to gamble a new one, I guess you will also rewarding if you will find a bug on a new gambling site. I think there would be at least a lot of information about an online casino that would deliver beer to their regular players at home. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Of course, in compliance with local legislation. This would be a great marketing move and they would be featured in many news stories.
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July 05, 2020, 10:10:33 PM |
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The chances are low and odds are against unless the new casino aims to be a specific game focused gambling platform. The long term success will happen but there are questions have to be answered by the team before going to accept this decision: Will they be able to advertise among the new casino and gain the trust of players among all the old established brand casinos?
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July 05, 2020, 10:16:03 PM |
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There are casinos that survive for example wolf.bet who are doing nothing extraordinary or any out of the world experience but what they have done is, they have ensured consistency because myself as a gambler it feels very risky to deposit in a new casino and only way crypto casinos can make their stand is by being consistent.
Even a small problem with a casino means they loose the gambler forever and I don't want to be rude but that is one reason why cloudbet is less popular than sportsbet.io because with cloudbet they came earlier i think in the market but they always had some issues with their gamblers while sportsbet.io remained consistent and personally I never had any issues with them in fact their support system is pretty good and only better support in my mind is stake's support.
So, little things and consistency makes up for the large stand for a new casino.
Consistency on giving out the best service as they can and you are right that even simple problems on where players can experience on will surely count as loss number because they wouldnt turn their back and would find another place to play on which wont give out similar experience on the site they had problems on.Also, aside from consistency they should at least consider on giving out relevant updates or addups and i have seen several gambling sites which do able to give out that matter.Even little by little they are making their site even more better.I agree on what others said that competition in gambling industry is very high thats why as a businessowner you should consider all positive aspects that will really help you out to sustain.
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July 05, 2020, 10:48:04 PM |
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The chances are low and odds are against unless the new casino aims to be a specific game focused gambling platform. The long term success will happen but there are questions have to be answered by the team before going to accept this decision: Will they be able to advertise among the new casino and gain the trust of players among all the old established brand casinos?
Casinos come and go. The only hard to beat are the established ones. Lesser chance to survive the competition when there are fewer people to the community they've built. The newer casinos have to give out as much as possible to be noticed. There is pressure to do a signature campaign for its normally what's done to get some trust and vouch from users. It's a struggle, other casinos really build a forum for their own just to keep their clients so they won't stray to some new ones.
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July 05, 2020, 10:50:24 PM |
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The chances are low and odds are against unless the new casino aims to be a specific game focused gambling platform. The long term success will happen but there are questions have to be answered by the team before going to accept this decision: Will they be able to advertise among the new casino and gain the trust of players among all the old established brand casinos?
It is very easy to attract attention with good advertising, welcome bonuses and a beautiful and convenient website design. However, it is much more difficult to make sure that those who came to play remain there forever. It is most difficult to acquire regular visitors.
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July 05, 2020, 11:23:12 PM |
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I agree that the risk of opening a casinos has a high risk, because it is very difficult to compete with old casinos that are more solid and reliable. So not a few new casinos that finally closed, but did not reduce the interest of people to continue to try to open new casinos. If based my observation, because the online casinos industry is very much in demand. It becomes profitable for some people, especially in conditions as it is now related to COVID19, many people choose to be at home. So the demand for online casinos is increasing.
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July 06, 2020, 04:31:08 AM |
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I agree that the risk of opening a casinos has a high risk, because it is very difficult to compete with old casinos that are more solid and reliable. So not a few new casinos that finally closed, but did not reduce the interest of people to continue to try to open new casinos. If based my observation, because the online casinos industry is very much in demand. It becomes profitable for some people, especially in conditions as it is now related to COVID19, many people choose to be at home. So the demand for online casinos is increasing.
If the new casino can't survive in any situation, then there is something wrong with them, which they don't realize. Perhaps, they need to analyze the mistake of why they can't survive because if one or more things can't work well, that can impact the casino itself. The owner needs to evaluate how good their casino works every month, so they will have a report in which they can evaluate what matters that will need to improve. If they can give the best thing for their members and maintain their website to work well, I am sure the casino will stay longer, and the casino will have more gamblers who will come to their place and become their members. Currently, the online gambling industry will be a more profitable business because people stay at home, and some of them still want to play gambling from home.
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July 06, 2020, 05:59:55 AM |
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they take risk because its a business . i think no business is risk free . gambling is a good business so this gives an ilussion for business minded people to think that they can earn big on it and that is true as long as those business type of people will do thier best . those who have failed lack something that people are looking for . stake dot com is not new and as far as i know the site was built on the year 2017 . there are new casinos that got popular , take roobet , windice , bustadice , wolfbet and many more as example .
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July 06, 2020, 07:11:56 AM |
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I agree that the risk of opening a casinos has a high risk, because it is very difficult to compete with old casinos that are more solid and reliable. So not a few new casinos that finally closed, but did not reduce the interest of people to continue to try to open new casinos. If based my observation, because the online casinos industry is very much in demand. It becomes profitable for some people, especially in conditions as it is now related to COVID19, many people choose to be at home. So the demand for online casinos is increasing.
What is there is a vaccine and this pandemic suddenly put to a stop. Will there still be demand for online casinos specially for those who just open up to take advantage of the situation. If I'm a casino operator, I would look behind this Covid-19 situation and will try to strive to compete against name casinos already so that my business will grow. Improved and listen to your customers to become more profitable. I would say that there could still be new casinos that survived and still attracting new gamblers like everyday.
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July 06, 2020, 07:23:52 AM |
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The chances are low and odds are against unless the new casino aims to be a specific game focused gambling platform. The long term success will happen but there are questions have to be answered by the team before going to accept this decision: Will they be able to advertise among the new casino and gain the trust of players among all the old established brand casinos?
It is very easy to attract attention with good advertising, welcome bonuses and a beautiful and convenient website design. However, it is much more difficult to make sure that those who came to play remain there forever. It is most difficult to acquire regular visitors. It is not that easy, good advertising such as signature campaign or forum banners does not give any guarantees that people will come to the site. Beginning phase of a business including gambling business is the hard part as it needs so many hard work as well as patience from the owner. I can even say that keeping players to stay is easier than attracting new players to come.
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July 06, 2020, 07:50:28 AM |
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It's just like the actual scenario of the business world, some are bound to succeed while some are bound to fail. Stake.com, primedice and other popular casinos definitely has a big market, and they are so profitable, but the definition of success is very simple, they don't need to be as big as the casino's I've mentioned above, but as long as they are operating profitably.
Some will just come and go because they are likely low budget casino or not really ready for the competition, or probably created just to scam people. Actually there's still a lot of casinos out there that are not advertising anymore in the forum, yet they are still successful.
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July 06, 2020, 08:18:12 AM |
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How do you define successful casinos? Like they have already doubled or more their capital or what? or just successfully launch a gambling platform. For me, we cannot really tell if the casinos are successful already when it is new, on early-stage promotion and marketing takes place it does not mean that they can afford to fund a big promotion means that they are successful already it is their strategy to attract users. I guess we can tell if the gambling site is successful if it is running for several years and continuing to provide better service and acquire huge daily users/players.
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July 06, 2020, 08:39:28 AM |
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Perhaps, with the new casinos entering the market, the competition will be harder since the old casinos already established their crucial characteristic which is their reputation, I am not saying they wouldn't stand a chance, but with the right marketing and good service they could provide, it will still be possible for these new casinos to compete.
In order for casino owners to get used to the new business and compete with those who have been on the market for a long time, you need to invest a lot of money in advertising, in encouraging new users. You can offer something new that other online casinos don't have. So far, I've only seen ways to invest a lot of money in advertising and offer welcome bonuses to new players. The should probably create good/safe betting games that more bettors can win regularly, learn something productive from or both. I guess that will count as unique if nothing like that exist already in betting world. Most are probably still creating things that do not excit people well enough and that aren't easy to use/win
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July 06, 2020, 08:42:13 AM |
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The competition is getting harder time to time, this is the reason why new casinos needs to work so hard in order to compete in the gambling industry. It takes not a short period of time for new casinos to be popular, most all the recent popular casinos came from Zero. So it is reasonable if we cant find new casinos that got popular in just few months unless the site backed up or created by older popular site (Stake as example)
But it depends on the timeline of their operation and the service that they provide to their customers. It is not that if you are a casino that operates for so long, it will just you become successful and popular immediately. It depends on how you will deal with the taste of your gambler customers to build a good reputation for your casino. New casinos are normally not that popular from the start due to the reputation and loyalty of customers of other gambling casinos. Any new casinos has the chance obviously but the only thing that can make a new casino survive is a hard work from the owner to promote and to give the best offers for players. In conclusion, I think it needs more than a year for a new site to be a popular site that can compete with other sites that has great reputation in the market.
All of the new casinos have the potential to grow but it depends on how they will regulate their own platforms. Hardwork, patience, and being transparent to its customer is what the gamblers need in order for them to trust and like your service as a casino.
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July 06, 2020, 08:46:05 AM |
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How do you define successful casinos? Like they have already doubled or more their capital or what? or just successfully launch a gambling platform.
Probably like a being successful casino that has a lot of users. IMO, that's my definition of success for casino developers. It's the achievement that they are longing for. Having hundreds to thousands of active players in a daily basis can be said as a success for them. But that's not the stop over of a casino for defining success because they are a continuous business and there are more serious things that they have to face as they operate years after years.
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July 06, 2020, 08:59:27 AM |
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I think it's hard to determine if a casino is successful or not, we can't determine it by just looking at the number of gamblers patronizing the site or the number of promotions they have, it's only the casinos who can determine themselves whether they are successful or not as they are the only one who knows their financial report.
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July 06, 2020, 11:10:19 AM |
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One of the new Casino that's making a name now just launch this year and hopefully, they can last and be one of the older casinos that we enjoyed playing is, Casineos you can check them out if you haven't tried their platform https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5222618.0
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July 06, 2020, 11:20:44 AM |
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Looking at how the competition in online gambling, it will be really hard for new casinos to even reach half of the old and trusted casino's reputation and the number of customers. I think it's just the same with other businesses when you know that the product or service is popular and there is a lot of competition, it's hard to compete with them unless you can offer something they don't have.
Aside from scam casinos, I also think that a lot of new online casinos failed to gain attention is because of the lack of promotion? I mean, since it's a new casino, it's already given that it will be hard fo attract gamblers that is why you should work hard in promoting your casino. Innovate the site and what they offer, or they can do a lot of promos, contests, and such. A great marketing strategy is essential especially in a wide and growing competition of online gambling.
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