Bitcasino.io 171btc winner discussion

[LFC_Bitcoin]

the reason he lied about the settlement is to give an excuse to close the thread without admitting he cheated
Think I know who it is anyway real name Jason he's British hit my dice site many moons ago

Check out this guys post history ^^^ https://archive.is/ThlMB

LAngel = Forgotoldaccount ?

Looks like he ‘won’ 36 btc at FortuneJack?

[TalkStar]

The account is frozen and will stay frozen. We have never made any settlements with the user in question.

Cheers,
Karl
Bitcasino.io

Thanks for the confirmation. End of another drama which have already wasted so many users valuable time.

[actmyname]

Check out this guys post history ^^^ https://archive.is/ThlMB

LAngel = Forgotoldaccount ?

Looks like he ‘won’ 36 btc at FortuneJack?

Yeah, I don't really see the link. I think you're searching down the wrong alley here, honestly. Especially since the user is disparaging LAngel, rather than doing anything that is in support of his claims. Apart from the whole "10000x" comment, which I think most skeptical gamblers would agree with...

After all, I'm quite cynical when it comes to casinos and their ToS.

[Harkorede]

Sadly, that casino has always an advantage over the gambler.

As Bitcasino.io Support mentioned, casino has always instruments to investigate if a person played and won fair or not fair. But if a gambler losses, he can not check if he had lost fair of game algoritm was modified. And house edge everywhere makes statement "House always win" proven.

As a gambler, it will be in your best interest to never put your self in such situation. Legitimate or not big winnings like that on any casino will always draw attention.

[mindrust]

Sadly, that casino has always an advantage over the gambler.

As Bitcasino.io Support mentioned, casino has always instruments to investigate if a person played and won fair or not fair. But if a gambler losses, he can not check if he had lost fair of game algoritm was modified. And house edge everywhere makes statement "House always win" proven.

As a gambler, it will be in your best interest to never put your self in such situation. Legitimate or not big winnings like that on any casino will always draw attention.

Indeed.

Casinos are not your friends. They running a business. They are there to make money. That money they are making is your money.

If you think you can outsmart them, you better be very smart. But then, why waste your smarts on casinos if you are that smart...

If the stories about the LAngel were true, he was one of those smartypants. Looks like his greed outsmarted him in this situation. He probably could have gone under the radar if he tried to win and withdraw smaller amounts instead.

[suzanne5223]

the account will not be unfrozen and the funds will not be paid out. There is no settlement, this is false information.

Can you confirm that you meant to say that the bitcasino.io account of user LAngel is still frozen and there were no settlement of giving him 48 BTC?

By the way, I am still swallowing the information you have provided. So, I will be giving my full feedback later once I will have a clear understanding.

The account is frozen and will stay frozen. We have never made any settlements with the user in question.

Cheers,
Karl
Bitcasino.io

This issue is getting more interesting because user LAngel statement was something else. I absolutely agree with you not publishing the user KYC or private info but you can still provide adequate info to people like LoyceV and Yahoo for verification.

Very detailed explanation from Karl of bitcasino.io. I already thought that there is something wrong on the post of LAngel about winnings on Dawn of Olympus casino. I play that slot many times and I never encounter that x5700 on free spin alone. His luck during his free spin is a bit extraordinary.

And I believe that he will used the video during his game as alibi so that his cheat will be cover and also to get support here in forum which is quite effective because personally I believe on his winnings due to the video.

I never tryout the game before but everything about LAngel winning is fishy and it better that casino owner to figure out a way spot game manipulators to afford future complications.

it was a legitimate hit. a totally legitimate, non tampered, not cheated, win.
but granted i cheated in the past, but thats not relevant.

Since you accept that you have once cheated before in your previous game nothing will stop you from doing it again.

it was a legitimate hit. a totally legitimate, non tampered, not cheated, win.
but granted i cheated in the past, but thats not relevant.

Since you are here, would you answer:

Why would you said that it was settled for 48 BTC?

Thats another prove he a con person as said by Bitcasino representative.

[AB de Royse777]

it was a legitimate hit. a totally legitimate, non tampered, not cheated, win.
but granted i cheated in the past, but thats not relevant.

Since you are here, would you answer:

Why would you said that it was settled for 48 BTC?

[AB de Royse777]

it was a legitimate hit. a totally legitimate, non tampered, not cheated, win.
but granted i cheated in the past, but thats not relevant.

Since you are here, would you answer:

Why would you said that it was settled for 48 BTC?

well, im still annoyed they didnt pay, it was a real win.
but since i have no right to complain because i cheated in the past...well
i deserve 48 btc, so let me have my fantasy okay?

See your lines are not adding up now.
Why would you think you deserve 48 BTC, why not 171+ BTC?

Would you admit that you have played a dirty game with the emotion of this forum members?
Did you notice that I and yahoo was ready to fight for you? We somehow saw injustice to you and gave our best with the community but now I feel I was cheated and I think others feel the same.

[target]

it was a legitimate hit. a totally legitimate, non tampered, not cheated, win.
but granted i cheated in the past, but thats not relevant.

Since you are here, would you answer:

Why would you said that it was settled for 48 BTC?

well, im still annoyed they didnt pay, it was a real win.
but since i have no right to complain because i cheated in the past...well
i deserve 48 btc, so let me have my fantasy okay?

That's funnier. I give that to you since you already admit you cheated before. If you have cheated before, I guess would mean you could also do that again. And now you also cheated your way to close the thread by claiming there is a settlement. You cheated people here, the end up giving you merits for the thread you created about your winnings.

[AB de Royse777]

alright, i maintain, that... i was lucky and the win was real
i should have been paid
but then, should I? I cheated in the past.
i dont know.
whatever

I usually do not lose my mind but now I think I lost myself.

Just STFU!

[LoyceV]

are not legitimate and are a result of fraudulently manipulating GameArt’s Dawn of Olympus.

Did you find how the game was exploited?

We know however that our community here requires something more tangible than simply our word.

I can't really verify the evidence you've provided, but for what it's worth, your side of the story sounds plausible.

There is no settlement, this is false information.

LAngel claimed this: i have agreed a settlment with bitcasino.io they have agreed to pay 48 bitcoins (4 per week for 12 weeks)
I'd like to see LAngel provide evidence of this settlement. If it's convincing, it proof he didn't lie.

it was a legitimate hit. a totally legitimate, non tampered, not cheated, win.
but granted i cheated in the past, but thats not relevant.

Thanks for confirming you've cheated. That means you've lost any benefit of the doubt.

[coinlocket$]

I think we can settle this , can anyone check the transactions that happened between 11:00-12:00  AM forum time ?    user LAngel claimed he received the first 4 BTC of his settlement at that time .  so if someone actually has the time to go through the blocks mined in that time we should get some clear evidence if LAngel is lyeing or not.

I searched on the blockachain

_________________________________________	_____________________	________________________________________________	___________________
Transaction	Block Number	Block Id	Block link sorted by input value
	638282	0000000000000000000a515195ac5ddf4c6bd03207ce517501384d4d10cdb566	https://btc.com/0000000000000000000a515195ac5ddf4c6bd03207ce517501384d4d10cdb566?page=15&order_by=inputs_value&asc=0
	638283	000000000000000000117a6fac3e23ee0690362fa5ebc51b3567e1ca68fdcef8	https://btc.com/000000000000000000117a6fac3e23ee0690362fa5ebc51b3567e1ca68fdcef8?page=17&order_by=inputs_value&asc=0
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/6912671b6fce16570df427d09809fe1522fc261dbb2bc0306e1d626df3153d49	638284	00000000000000000008b784dd1d3d5ae54bd78d857377e52ea19745afa32fba	https://btc.com/00000000000000000008b784dd1d3d5ae54bd78d857377e52ea19745afa32fba?page=8&order_by=inputs_value&asc=0
https://www.blockchain.com/it/btc/tx/c8d60b0dfc50cdd19c01739e18f08f24f58e84bf37065ddcca56f0185840593e	638285	00000000000000000010d4c7ab2e6635d6036097eba29eb8db954ff8068113a0	https://btc.com/00000000000000000010d4c7ab2e6635d6036097eba29eb8db954ff8068113a0?page=15&order_by=inputs_value&asc=0

The only 2 transactions with exactly 4 BTC are

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/6912671b6fce16570df427d09809fe1522fc261dbb2bc0306e1d626df3153d49



To 2 address so you can exclude it

https://www.blockchain.com/it/btc/tx/c8d60b0dfc50cdd19c01739e18f08f24f58e84bf37065ddcca56f0185840593e



Spitted to 6 addresses...



TDLR, there is no transaction from 11 AM to 12 AM forum time from one single address to another address with exactly 4 BTC

[rhomelmabini]

anyway the takeaway is this:
the win was real, you really could win that on the game, i did - no cheats
bitcasino do pay, but.. if you win too much they will become detectives
bitcoin is way over valued and going back to sub 4k

It isn't real it was just your fantasy, you can live with it. Good thing if it will be to sub 4k, now you sounded like a trader but that's kind of off-topic here.

You clearly are lying, you admit then on another response you don't.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

yahoo,

Consider editing your OP so you don't mislead the community.
The guy is a hacker, wasn't paid anything, and he chose to remove his video; Bitcasino didn't ask him to do it.

Basically what happened here is a user ended up winning 171 bitcoins on bitcasino.io playing their casino games. The user ended up getting his account locked and contacted the site and was asked for KYC. Casino asking for KYC is a normal practice in the industry, Locking the account while this process is ongoing, not so sure.


I am happy the guy is getting paid some of his money owed, but what I think is a bit odd is he was asked to remove the video and was given 28% of his win.

None of this is true now.

1).  He never received 4 BTC
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5260832.msg54755309#msg54755309

2).  He removed the video on his own; no one asked him to.

[Rotten Egg]

The thread by LAngel has been archived - http://archive.is/feqpv

are not legitimate and are a result of fraudulently manipulating GameArt’s Dawn of Olympus.

@Bitcasino.io If you know there is a part of your game design that can be exploited, why are you running it in the first place? Whoever wins BIG at a later date, can be denied of payment due to this same line of reasoning. The onus is on to you to fix your game design, not the gambler IMHO.

Below, you will see the publicly available proof from the Blockchain supporting our findings that there is indeed a pattern of a single individual
who we know to be manipulating and exploiting games across casino operators, and that LAngel is not as legitimately lucky as would have you believe.

Transaction 1 where 0.483 BTC is moved to 14t9Ff3yUgwcQm5HsAsL5Rq7meBBCDT8g5
68c63caf998c3e84f342caa988d1e439f8cd78174aa389185b3e4a06f0ecf27b

Transaction 2 where 0.1 BTC is deposited from 14t9Ff3yUgwcQm5HsAsL5Rq7meBBCDT8g5 to Account 1 deposit address in Bitcasino 3G4r8XMKgvKFq3M29kNuV9RE6kvq7eY5Qh
7dbd1fe62c6afb93ecaa8ce0eed7cb0e90210de93151eb29f894a81c32cacc25

Transaction 3 where 0.196 BTC is sent from 14t9Ff3yUgwcQm5HsAsL5Rq7meBBCDT8g5 to a new address 1BCeQTQWvq5gzk8yEBzwGrWuLYjHmvf3P2
571a8a4c2f6d59044e669f5f5956e4544970fce7aea21feb3d32caa577b35497

Transaction 4 where inputs from 1BCeQTQWvq5gzk8yEBzwGrWuLYjHmvf3P2 and 13mEeWBYtd4huuuWGTFbEvbH192uMGh3tF send 4.5 BTC to a Casino Operator 1 deposit address 1BnqgnQFVpevz7idhBHpdD2Axy7L9ZC42U and 0.134 BTC to a new address 1DFQ7ofFWf1yffqwQL1Jdv445ZeYxSuGiD 90eea9f590e77ce6e9e70de79911ef38275e0d22642b54c02d34343c3b59bbdb

Transaction 5 where inputs from 18qF5tBd175jfz3AwjtsbebTfn8nkfRGDm and 1DFQ7ofFWf1yffqwQL1Jdv445ZeYxSuGiD are sending 0.5 BTC to Bitcasino onto Account 2 deposit address 3Bn9pecZA6r3Z1bCYdh4GV5tM3DYXxMhzF and 0.055 BTC to a new address 1J14KoZVUXrG3P4Rcs6URZQ1dJHY77tVWQ 5a9b14457a493e6c237d1e38dd1b80082af45e217a77782fdd605fd5e09dd4ee

Transaction 6 where inputs 1J14KoZVUXrG3P4Rcs6URZQ1dJHY77tVWQ and 1JkAF2owb3QgXG1UN53yREFvogTWeLs1TZ fund a deposit of 0.5 BTC to a players deposit address 38492UnXhifAE4Yag26Lbp6beoxB1cLTDT within Casino Operator 2 52777ed072b6fdd1c3cbb8b14ce7fb37556d302a0e9eaa64e801731c8b92fcb3

The above combination transactions prove that the addresses involved are in possession of a single entity responsible of the deposits to
Bitcasino Account 1, Account 2 and also to Casino Operator 1 and Casino Operator 2.

Collection of the entity’s mentioned addresses:

14t9Ff3yUgwcQm5HsAsL5Rq7meBBCDT8g5
1BCeQTQWvq5gzk8yEBzwGrWuLYjHmvf3P2
1DFQ7ofFWf1yffqwQL1Jdv445ZeYxSuGiD
1J14KoZVUXrG3P4Rcs6URZQ1dJHY77tVWQ

Account 1 Bitcasino deposit address:
3G4r8XMKgvKFq3M29kNuV9RE6kvq7eY5Qh
Account 2 Bitcasino deposit address:
3Bn9pecZA6r3Z1bCYdh4GV5tM3DYXxMhzF
Casino Operator 1 deposit address:
1BnqgnQFVpevz7idhBHpdD2Axy7L9ZC42U
Casino Operator 2 deposit address:
38492UnXhifAE4Yag26Lbp6beoxB1cLTDT

Blockchain links to each relevant transaction:

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/68c63caf998c3e84f342caa988d1e439f8cd78174aa389185b3e4a06f0ecf27b
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/7dbd1fe62c6afb93ecaa8ce0eed7cb0e90210de93151eb29f894a81c32cacc25
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/571a8a4c2f6d59044e669f5f5956e4544970fce7aea21feb3d32caa577b35497
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/90eea9f590e77ce6e9e70de79911ef38275e0d22642b54c02d34343c3b59bbdb
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/5a9b14457a493e6c237d1e38dd1b80082af45e217a77782fdd605fd5e09dd4ee
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/52777ed072b6fdd1c3cbb8b14ce7fb37556d302a0e9eaa64e801731c8b92fcb3


Given the 100% match, our fraud team’s extensive findings supported by GameArt’s investigation and the history we have with this user
the account will not be unfrozen and the funds will not be paid out. There is no settlement, this is false information.

Which part of this 'proof' shows LAngel cheated in this particular instance of 171 BTC win?

[Josefjix]

Langel is such an unrepentant liar, he rushed and deleted his post on this topic, every of his tactics are suspicious of him being a scammer as accused by the casino account handler. He probably have shut the door for innocent people who would be trapped in this kind of situation. Good thing investigation was carried out to ascertain his atom of lies.

[notblox1]

no but seriously, the sooner bitcoin goes to zero the better.
back to regulated, fiat goverment approved gambling please, none of these gangsta outfits

The sooner you and scammers like you get banned and in end up jail, prison or some dark cave, the better for all.
I would pick some cold place below zero for you.

[actmyname]

no but seriously, the sooner bitcoin goes to zero the better.
back to regulated, fiat goverment approved gambling please, none of these gangsta outfits

In comes the indignant attitude: what a surprise. I guess when you don't get your way, the only thing left to do is to rage on the internet for no reason and waste both your time and the time of others. After all, since you're clearly not doing anything productive with your time, why should anybody else?

By all means, spout some bullshit about how "fiat government approved gambling" is better. Hint hint: they're all shitty.

[Boris007]

I believe the user was just manipulating web socket.

[Zvon P]

Hi everyone,

We were made aware of a thread recently created, the thread is now locked and contains incorrect information which we’d like to set straight.


Before getting into the case, I want to acknowledge a point that was made in the now locked thread around the gravity of the situation
and the potential positive or negative impact on our reputation.

With that in mind, we think it’s crucial to share some of our reasoning and proof behind why we’re certain that LAngel’s winnings
are not legitimate and are a result of fraudulently manipulating GameArt’s Dawn of Olympus.

This is not the first encounter we’ve had with this person and this was made crystal clear when we uncovered a 100% match to a previous user
who had been investigated and subsequently blocked for tampering with games.
We use a wide array of industry-leading detection tools, 100% across them is unambiguously a match.

Previously, this user managed to extract a large amount of BTC from ourselves and also hit a few other crypto casinos in a very similar manner.
For this reason this person is widely known to ourselves, other crypto casinos and at least GameArt, if not other game providers.

Furthermore, KYC has been consistently inconsistent and while for privacy reasons we can’t post the submitted KYC here,
we can say without any doubt that the KYC documents submitted are not valid.

We know however that our community here requires something more tangible than simply our word.
Below, you will see the publicly available proof from the Blockchain supporting our findings that there is indeed a pattern of a single individual
who we know to be manipulating and exploiting games across casino operators, and that LAngel is not as legitimately lucky as would have you believe.

Transaction 1 where 0.483 BTC is moved to 14t9Ff3yUgwcQm5HsAsL5Rq7meBBCDT8g5
68c63caf998c3e84f342caa988d1e439f8cd78174aa389185b3e4a06f0ecf27b

Transaction 2 where 0.1 BTC is deposited from 14t9Ff3yUgwcQm5HsAsL5Rq7meBBCDT8g5 to Account 1 deposit address in Bitcasino 3G4r8XMKgvKFq3M29kNuV9RE6kvq7eY5Qh
7dbd1fe62c6afb93ecaa8ce0eed7cb0e90210de93151eb29f894a81c32cacc25

Transaction 3 where 0.196 BTC is sent from 14t9Ff3yUgwcQm5HsAsL5Rq7meBBCDT8g5 to a new address 1BCeQTQWvq5gzk8yEBzwGrWuLYjHmvf3P2
571a8a4c2f6d59044e669f5f5956e4544970fce7aea21feb3d32caa577b35497

Transaction 4 where inputs from 1BCeQTQWvq5gzk8yEBzwGrWuLYjHmvf3P2 and 13mEeWBYtd4huuuWGTFbEvbH192uMGh3tF send 4.5 BTC to a Casino Operator 1 deposit address 1BnqgnQFVpevz7idhBHpdD2Axy7L9ZC42U and 0.134 BTC to a new address 1DFQ7ofFWf1yffqwQL1Jdv445ZeYxSuGiD 90eea9f590e77ce6e9e70de79911ef38275e0d22642b54c02d34343c3b59bbdb

Transaction 5 where inputs from 18qF5tBd175jfz3AwjtsbebTfn8nkfRGDm and 1DFQ7ofFWf1yffqwQL1Jdv445ZeYxSuGiD are sending 0.5 BTC to Bitcasino onto Account 2 deposit address 3Bn9pecZA6r3Z1bCYdh4GV5tM3DYXxMhzF and 0.055 BTC to a new address 1J14KoZVUXrG3P4Rcs6URZQ1dJHY77tVWQ 5a9b14457a493e6c237d1e38dd1b80082af45e217a77782fdd605fd5e09dd4ee

Transaction 6 where inputs 1J14KoZVUXrG3P4Rcs6URZQ1dJHY77tVWQ and 1JkAF2owb3QgXG1UN53yREFvogTWeLs1TZ fund a deposit of 0.5 BTC to a players deposit address 38492UnXhifAE4Yag26Lbp6beoxB1cLTDT within Casino Operator 2 52777ed072b6fdd1c3cbb8b14ce7fb37556d302a0e9eaa64e801731c8b92fcb3

The above combination transactions prove that the addresses involved are in possession of a single entity responsible of the deposits to
Bitcasino Account 1, Account 2 and also to Casino Operator 1 and Casino Operator 2.

Collection of the entity’s mentioned addresses:

14t9Ff3yUgwcQm5HsAsL5Rq7meBBCDT8g5
1BCeQTQWvq5gzk8yEBzwGrWuLYjHmvf3P2
1DFQ7ofFWf1yffqwQL1Jdv445ZeYxSuGiD
1J14KoZVUXrG3P4Rcs6URZQ1dJHY77tVWQ

Account 1 Bitcasino deposit address:
3G4r8XMKgvKFq3M29kNuV9RE6kvq7eY5Qh
Account 2 Bitcasino deposit address:
3Bn9pecZA6r3Z1bCYdh4GV5tM3DYXxMhzF
Casino Operator 1 deposit address:
1BnqgnQFVpevz7idhBHpdD2Axy7L9ZC42U
Casino Operator 2 deposit address:
38492UnXhifAE4Yag26Lbp6beoxB1cLTDT

Blockchain links to each relevant transaction:

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/68c63caf998c3e84f342caa988d1e439f8cd78174aa389185b3e4a06f0ecf27b
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/7dbd1fe62c6afb93ecaa8ce0eed7cb0e90210de93151eb29f894a81c32cacc25
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/571a8a4c2f6d59044e669f5f5956e4544970fce7aea21feb3d32caa577b35497
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/90eea9f590e77ce6e9e70de79911ef38275e0d22642b54c02d34343c3b59bbdb
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/5a9b14457a493e6c237d1e38dd1b80082af45e217a77782fdd605fd5e09dd4ee
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/52777ed072b6fdd1c3cbb8b14ce7fb37556d302a0e9eaa64e801731c8b92fcb3


Given the 100% match, our fraud team’s extensive findings supported by GameArt’s investigation and the history we have with this user
the account will not be unfrozen and the funds will not be paid out. There is no settlement, this is false information.

Bitcasino has been around for just over six years now, that type of longevity is not possible in our industry if you’re scamming or acting with ill intent.
On average we pay out legitimate winnings in two minutes but we will never be publicly blackmailed into paying out illegitimate gains.

There may be people here who, for their own reasons, will not want to believe or agree with our decision.
To that we can only urge everyone to think critically about this case and explore the evidence available.
There are plenty of red flags that can be seen in the original thread, from the YouTube video to now being private to the very fact that the
user has been withdrawing 25BTC over the past few days - something which has already been noted by Bitcointalk members.

We will continue to work with our fellow crypto casinos and game providers to ensure that we are aware
and can protect ourselves from future attacks on both the technical and reputational fronts.

Currently, we’re in talks with the other casinos and those businesses affected to see whether or not they are happy to go public with their encounters with LAngel.
While we can’t make them, we strongly believe it’s important for our community to be united against such manipulation.

Lastly, we say it a lot but fun, fast and fair isn’t just our marketing motto - this is what we work and live by at Bitcasino.
We’re hopeful that the community here will explore the case and support us on the matter as it has done so many times before.

Should any member of the community have more information about this individual please feel free to reach out to enquiries@bitcasino.io or to myself.
You can also do so anonymously if you feel the need to.

Cheers,
Karl
Bitcasino.io

1.  Well i was wrong
2.  This is just the explanation we needed