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July 15, 2020, 03:12:56 PM
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New members like creating posts like, how to make money from the forum, how to rank up, how to earn merits, they do not care about asking how to make quality and authentic posts, that is why it is not surprising that they could not able to rank up.
New members are always asking things like how to make money in this forum, how to raise rankings etc., it is a natural thing if I look at it from a beginner's perspective. We only need to provide feedback in the form of suggestions and advice to make him know what is more important and needed by this forum. Make quality posts, how to contribute well and more. The inability of beginners to rise in rank due to lack of education, lack of reading and learning the rules in this forum.
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July 15, 2020, 05:11:27 PM
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Majority that spam in this forum are mostly newbies and few of the junior members. Due to the high rate of spamming from newbies and junior members, a good number of bounty project no longer accept them to join their signature campaign. The only accept the high ranked members.
Spamming in this forum is just a waste of time and energy, hard work and patience do pay
Accepting Newbies and Jr Members in sig campaigns and bounties is a mistake from the beginning to the end. That opens up a big door for spammers or alts to be able to join in - the campaigns such as 777Coin and Bitvest have had to cope with these things for a while now, and from time to time there still are sockpuppets/alts that are found to be cheating. I can't even imagine what a bounty manager has to deal with most of the times - I'd bet +30% of the bounty participants are cheating as we speak.

Increasing the minimum entry rank leads to newer members understanding better what this forum is about. The sad thing is, most bounty participants are spammers desperately dropping replies anywhere on the forum just to fulfill as many bounty requests as possible. As you say, being a decent member and trying your best to be better opens up a lot of doors and opportunities for you. Newbies choosing the spammy/scammy way will most likely regret it at one point in the future anyway.
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July 15, 2020, 07:15:24 PM
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Accepting Newbies and Jr Members in sig campaigns and bounties is a mistake from the beginning to the end.
I think all forum member will agree with you except scammers because a maximum number of Newbie and Jr member are doing spam in a regular basis.
I saw many newbies using high rank username to scam in all good Bounties and in forum.
That's why forum is getting polluted day by day.

All Bounty managers should take steps properly.Then something good can be happened.
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July 21, 2020, 07:12:33 AM
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Is it alright to bump a thread? I think there are rules for this. Mostly it happens on advertising or promotional activities like in those market place or ann threads. However, I have seen few times here that there are users bumping their own threads in this section. Anyway, this thread is helpful by the way and it is also good for the newbie to see it as an awareness in this forum. They may be here for a different reason but at least they are aware of the users here. Being cautious is better than being careless.
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July 21, 2020, 07:23:53 AM
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<...> Is it alright to bump a thread? I think there are rules for this. Mostly it happens on advertising or promotional activities like in those market place or ann threads. However, I have seen few times here that there are users bumping their own threads in this section. <…>

This is what the unofficial rules state on the matter:
<…> 13. Bumps, "updates" are limited to once per 24 hours per thread. Bumping multiple threads at the same time is allowed if it's not annoying. <…> [2][e]

<…> 21. Old bumps should be deleted. [2] <…>

<…> 13. According to a personal message from the head admin, theymos:
The strong guideline is 1 bump per 24 hours per thread. Additionally, bumps should not be annoying, which needs to be determined subjectively. If a user bumps 10 threads every day, that's annoying. If a user bumps 3 threads at the same time for some good reason, then this may not be annoying.
There is therefore a spirit behind the bumping procedure, and the overall effect, within the above limitations, should be something bearable and seemingly justified. If someone bumps a thread on Beginners & Help it would be an atypical event, and probably uncalled for. If many people went on to doing it, it would be unbearable, and tighter rules would have to be set (or the new bumping scheme extended to other boards).
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July 31, 2020, 10:18:56 AM
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Almost everyone in the forum aims and hopes to profit from the forum in terms of currency either digital or it's equivalent. Hence, any newbie who discovers the bounty section of the forum is so tempted that, it takes a newbie with a concrete idea of the forum and with a purpose to escape this temptation. I was tempted once but got advised and inspired from the good people of this forum, learnt from their many available articles and personal observation of the journey to the top. Now, I'm getting enthusiastic on forging ahead and it's such a great feeling.
Choose right and devote your energy to learning first.

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August 01, 2020, 06:44:07 PM
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I used to be a newbie and my age is not too old on the forum. I registered the account on April 28, 2019 and my first forum-versary is 3 months ago.

You will not read if I write something too long as tl;dr so I will write it too short for you.

As a newbies, you have to choose the journey you want to go:
- Bounty hunters
- Spammers
- Scammers
- Good members.



Many of them started as a spammer and as bounty hunters, their motivation is to make money they just learned that they need to contribute and be good members if they want the cooperation of people here and they want to have respects coming from other posters and managers,
if Bitcointalk is your first forum you need to take your time to read a lot before making your presence felt,it's better that they felt your presence as a contributor and not as a spammer or bounty hunter only.


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August 02, 2020, 08:55:57 AM
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It is so much better if newcomers chosen to a journey where they could learn a lot from steps that they take.

Knowledge is very important as we continue our journey.
It will help us to decide what's the best thing to do and/or what should we not do.
Also do not rush things, just take it slowly and you'll see constant progress.

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August 02, 2020, 11:36:16 AM
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I used to be a newbie and my age is not too old on the forum. I registered the account on April 28, 2019 and my first forum-versary is 3 months ago.

You will not read if I write something too long as tl;dr so I will write it too short for you.

As a newbies, you have to choose the journey you want to go:
- Bounty hunters
- Spammers
- Scammers
- Good members.



Many of them started as a spammer and as bounty hunters, their motivation is to make money they just learned that they need to contribute and be good members if they want the cooperation of people here and they want to have respects coming from other posters and managers,
if Bitcointalk is your first forum you need to take your time to read a lot before making your presence felt,it's better that they felt your presence as a contributor and not as a spammer or bounty hunter only.

I agree with you.
Many new members have already been kicked out of this forum due to spam and others have learned the rules and become valuable members of the community.
I am always for giving a second chance if a new member realizes his mistakes and has changed.
I think the big problem is that a lot of new members don’t understand enough English and don’t have experience with online forums.

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August 02, 2020, 01:34:59 PM
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If only newbies will stop and roam around and start reading all the important threads here in this section he will not go astray and will develop into good posters but unfortunately, some of these newbies go straight into the bounty campaigns and become spammers of this forum.

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August 02, 2020, 04:39:19 PM
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I used to be a newbie and my age is not too old on the forum. I registered the account on April 28, 2019 and my first forum-versary is 3 months ago.

You will not read if I write something too long as tl;dr so I will write it too short for you.

As a newbies, you have to choose the journey you want to go:
- Bounty hunters
- Spammers
- Scammers
- Good members.

There is nothing needed to say if you choose the first three. If you fortunately and bravely to choose the last one, and want to go as good members the next thing you have to do is choosing the area you have interests in. It is important because you will more easily spend more time for that, and you will feel more comfortable to do so. It is your interests so your works with it will bring lots of fun back to you.

I chose to focus my time on the forum with security and privacy and wallet's features and usages. You can see it in my first thread I created to ask about Brave browser - What's wrong with Brave browser?. Unfortunately, because of privacy problems I stopped using the browser months ago.

Bitcoin Core's prune node. Please help to use it safely.
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There are some threads not belong to my main concerns.
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If you are newbies, now choose your journey and your interested areas you want to go with.

I think I fall into two specifications on the list of what to choose first am a hunter and secondly I am possibly helping people to understand Crypto and other things relevant to Crypto out of Bitcointalk forum as a whole. So to say as for the rest two I believe most members on this forum has their heart at the back of their mind. Enjoying hurting other humans intentionally.

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August 02, 2020, 05:20:13 PM
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Hi Tim,

I remembered you applied in my thread and failed. Today you posted it but I don't see what I wrote hurts human or someone. It is truth.

Because of your post, I am curious and check you post history. I see you always quote full posts or OPs when you replied. It is not good because most of time I reply to only a small point in a long post, I guess you and others do the same.

Quote the points you want to discuss with authors, do not quote all.

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~snip~
New members like creating posts like, how to make money from the forum, how to rank up, how to earn merits, they do not care about asking how to make quality and authentic posts, that is why it is not surprising that they could not able to rank up.
New members are always asking things like how to make money in this forum, how to raise rankings etc., it is a natural thing if I look at it from a beginner's perspective. We only need to provide feedback in the form of suggestions and advice to make him know what is more important and needed by this forum. Make quality posts, how to contribute well and more. The inability of beginners to rise in rank due to lack of education, lack of reading and learning the rules in this forum.

With that purpose, they will never succeed in this forum.
You shouldn't do something for the sake of money, that's useless.

You should do your duty as a member and you should not make money as your goal, but the opinions, facts and informative discussion should be your tool for success. Making a lot of quality and factual posts will make you a more reliable member where other users will notice you as a good member. In order to achieve your goals and attain a higher rank in this forum, you should make your thoughts as your motive.
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With that purpose, they will never succeed in this forum.
You shouldn't do something for the sake of money, that's useless.
To make money on forum, I dont think user should contribute to forum because there are many thing they can do to earn money. Some easy way for those I can remember are airdrop, bounty campaign, game and round, gambling, trading, and so on. Those are some thing that can be done without contributing to the forum by user.

Contribution are not required for every forum user because contribution are a good choice chosen by forum member and are useful for other user. Many forum contributor will benefit from what they do, including having the opportunity to join a high paid signature campaign but vice versa for those who dont contribute. They will not be considered by the manager at all as one of the participant. If you want to be a good and useful forum member, then contribute.

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Majority of the newcomers here, are after bounty hunter's job. Due to they were introduced by someone whom gets pays from bounties. So they have no other option than to join, to see how it works.
Only few that understand what this forum is all about will deviate from such mindset (bounty hunters job) to a better good member that will contributes to the growth of the btt forum

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August 05, 2020, 01:24:52 AM
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When I was just starting here my goal and motivation is to become bounty hunter the one that just report bounty campaign but after I realized that you can make more stakes from bounty rewards by being a signature participants I started to post good stuff instead of just reporting campaign now I'm on a better position, so just contribute here and a lot of good stuff will come.

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August 05, 2020, 09:34:10 AM
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It is very sad that we currently have very few real Newbie. Exactly those people who come to the forum as a student who has a desire to learn about Crypto. True cryptomaniacs were born here before the start of bounty companies, then the idea of ​​a forum had its real meaning.
Today, if I see a newbie account, then it either has an old registration date, which does not fit a newbie. And immediately there is a suspicion that this is someone's alternative account, and he has known the forum for a long time. Or, if the registration date is fresh, then often these are the accounts of previously banned or red-trusted members.

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August 06, 2020, 04:19:21 AM
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Newbies are really free to choose what path they will go or do in the world of cryptocurrency. But most newbies nowadays only aims for easy and quick money, especially who are new in cryptocurrency that they always make spam and shitpost just to join bounty campaigns, and they don't have any interest to learn more in cryptocurrency. It is why they always get scam and not earning good profit from cryptocurrency.

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August 06, 2020, 05:24:27 AM
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As a responsible user here in this forum, we should not let them down, judging them will not make them grow. If they are asking, a simple answer will help them to become enlightened about the things in this forum.

All of us started from being a newbie in crypto industry and in this forum.

We are all experienced that stage where we are ignorant about bitcoin and other cryptocurrency and our society.

A simple help will matter to them so much so don't hesitate to guide them on the journey or path that they will pursue here in this forum. Hopefully, they will become a responsible user too, to have a quality and informative posts and making critical discussions toward a certain issue so that there are variety learning that will occur in this forum.

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August 06, 2020, 10:10:50 AM
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With all the rules and the goal of the forum I don't think newbies will have a choice of their own to become a spammer he will be ban right away he needs to contribute here or he will be ship out here, this forum has no room for scammers and spammers we have old members to protect this forum these kind of posters newbies or not.
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