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July 31, 2020, 08:51:44 AM
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I agree, this is an endurance test there are many companies that are going to disappear and there will be a lot of people that give up but once this is finally over those that remain standing will receive the benefits of less competition and more profits as people go back to their old spending habits, and you want to be there to take advantage of those circumstances, I am sure that anyone that gives up now on whatever business they have will surely regret it down the line.

Great people are those who can avoid potential problems. Being realistic and closing a business does not always signify a businessman giving up. I take for example the business of exporting my colleague's shells, the shells exported are usually used for raw materials for crafts and for the production of buttons. An automatic pandemic and the closure of some tourism objects caused handicrafts to be deserted by buyers, so my colleague temporarily closed his business and gave severance according to the law to some of his employees. With the consideration of my colleague, I do not know how long he can run strong, but by laying off employees, it also prepares themselves to deal with this condition.

Temporarily closing a business does not mean giving up and keeping quiet, my colleague tries to open a number of home-based businesses and continues to send offers to several new shell buyers around the world while supervising children's online learning.

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July 31, 2020, 10:06:35 AM
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Temporarily closing a business does not mean giving up and keeping quiet, my colleague tries to open a number of home-based businesses and continues to send offers to several new shell buyers around the world while supervising children's online learning

As much as I want to agree with you, there's nothing more permanent than temporary

This is not my observation, and it has been tested in ages as it has strong grounds, even if it sounds more like a joke. Okay, your colleague closed his business as he thinks for some time only, until the dust settles and the sun shines bright again, as it were. So far so good. But how will he know that it is the right time to open up again if he is no longer in the biz? And when that time comes, how can he be so sure he will have an inclination to continue? The point is, if he really were into this thing, he wouldn't shut it down. But if he is not, it will be hard to restart. To sum it up, keep us posted

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July 31, 2020, 01:42:47 PM
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A big plus of agriculture is that you can feed yourself and your family with quality products. And if you will do everything right and you have enough capital, then you can also sell what you have grown. I think you also will have time for your design services.
Investing in gold or in agriculture business are very much different since they require different skills too. You may close your first business temporarily as it will not click this time of pandemic but resorting into an agriculture business is a good revenue too since you own already a piece of land. If you can manage smoothly your agribusiness, you can even make more profits from this compared to gold investment.

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July 31, 2020, 05:07:59 PM
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A big plus of agriculture is that you can feed yourself and your family with quality products. And if you will do everything right and you have enough capital, then you can also sell what you have grown. I think you also will have time for your design services.
Investing in gold or in agriculture business are very much different since they require different skills too. You may close your first business temporarily as it will not click this time of pandemic but resorting into an agriculture business is a good revenue too since you own already a piece of land. If you can manage smoothly your agribusiness, you can even make more profits from this compared to gold investment.
I have dealt with agricultural business for almost half my life and I know about the difficulties and problems that are associated with this activity. It's not as easy as it seems. For example, if we take into account the current realities in Ukraine, then agriculture has a lot of problems, especially because of the weather conditions, which have begun to change dramatically in recent years. Many agricultural firms are starting to fundamentally change their livestock fundamentals and approaches to cultivating the land in order to make a profit in the current environment, rather than permanent losses. The coronavirus pandemic and the effects of global warming only exacerbate the situation. Therefore, it is more profitable to invest in gold or cryptocurrency, especially considering the current forecasts for the future prospects of the cryptocurrency market, but at the same time engaged in agriculture. It is best to always have an alternative.
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July 31, 2020, 11:59:42 PM
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BTC is now above 10200 usd ( How in the hell is going to buy btc ? if no one will have money to buy )
Govs are putting us out of business ...
You can purchase bitcoin in small quantity, why would you want to purchase an entire coin if you are not having the financial freedom and what i did not understand fully is how is the government forcing you to go out of business when these asset valuation increases.

I think i am moving from IT to agriculture (as i got some land ... ) ,there is no way my IT biz will survive like this ...
If you have the passion and resources to do agriculture, it is not a small thing as i believe it is the future as you are feeding the world and we need more farmers and if you can incorporate technology with farming then it could be a successful venture.
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August 01, 2020, 02:42:26 PM
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IT is not only the least affected in a bad way but in reality Covid has really positive effects on it, especially on web development. During this pandemic, a lot of companies were trying to move on online services and a lot of companies made new websites, apps, softwares and so on. Demand on web development was very high and I see a lot of vacancies posted asking for IT developers. But idk what's happening around to this guy, I remember he created a thread Business / private sector is dead and had the same dissatisfaction around IT (including blockchain development too).

Agriculture business is great too, especially Bio/Organic Products as you have less competition in this field. But it needs good time and investment.

SUPER True, maybe this is the momentum to change and use a modern system. The advantage which bitcoin and other blockchain have to offer. With efficiency, companies can utilize unused human resources for things that have not accomplished yet. This change should have implemented a long time ago, and why should people wait for a pandemic.

And about IT Job, I got several bounties offers email every day. such as:

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"There is over $250k in prizes & investments waiting for you. Click here to find a hackathon that suits you."

I'm not an expert developer, but at least I know where to find work that suits my expertise. At present, it is not difficult to find that information. The point is, if you work harder, then you can play harder.

I have seen you a lot in the forum spy100 and I actually like the thread you have made in the services section but from my honest opinion you need to just learn some marketing skills, I have seen more talented users not getting the job while someone with less talent grabs that opportunity because of the way how they present their services and how they communicate. I am not at all saying you are not good in communication, I actually never worked with you, so how would I basically know.

What I mean to say it, you should create a attractive website because believe me while you will get some projects because of your thread in the forum but you need some website and stuff to attract customers globally.

I do like your work and you made a challenge recently about a particular BOT and if someone can bypass it, right? I like what you are doing and hopefully you get more business and don't change your line just because of tough times.

People who can't sell themselves will not reach anything and satisfies in life. Maybe he is afraid, we all knew where the luck side.
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August 01, 2020, 04:37:20 PM
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This is a total nightmare

Gold is now 1941.25 usd today
Euro value is increasing against the USD ...
What this means is that soon i will have to increase my prices to 5-10%...
BTC is now above 10200 usd ( How in the hell is going to buy btc ? if no one will have money to buy )
Govs are putting us out of business ...


I think i am moving from IT to agriculture (as i got some land ... ) ,there is no way my IT biz will survive like this ...
There are investors who made lot of money from this pandemic crash so not everyone got affected who are one buying now to bring their total worth to more high.Agriculture can be a profitable one because now there is high demand for food products but remember you can't grow anything over night so make sure you have money to survive in that meanwhile period.Is it also possible to work in an IT and can manage your agri farms with workers
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August 02, 2020, 09:08:12 AM
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IT isn't looking very promising these days

Depends on your location if you are a local service provider but if you are working online then there are massive opportunities because you can learn new languages and polish yourself and find new level of clients with every new skill you learn.

Indeed, there's no rule without an exception, and if you are offering some local services (I dunno, maybe network stuff or in-house developing) or taking a very specific niche (you know, without "the cheap Hindu element in it", yet), then you should probably stay.

Can you please clarify because as far as I understand you are into some religious bs which is not the right thing to discuss on a public forum.

Anyways coming back to topic, I believe offering local services can be a tricky part of a job because locals near you would always know what is the real cost of the service you provide them while working online for clients abroad can get you higher payment for the same service that you provide locally.
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August 03, 2020, 05:15:44 PM
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I agree, this is an endurance test there are many companies that are going to disappear and there will be a lot of people that give up but once this is finally over those that remain standing will receive the benefits of less competition and more profits as people go back to their old spending habits, and you want to be there to take advantage of those circumstances, I am sure that anyone that gives up now on whatever business they have will surely regret it down the line.

Great people are those who can avoid potential problems. Being realistic and closing a business does not always signify a businessman giving up. I take for example the business of exporting my colleague's shells, the shells exported are usually used for raw materials for crafts and for the production of buttons. An automatic pandemic and the closure of some tourism objects caused handicrafts to be deserted by buyers, so my colleague temporarily closed his business and gave severance according to the law to some of his employees. With the consideration of my colleague, I do not know how long he can run strong, but by laying off employees, it also prepares themselves to deal with this condition.

Temporarily closing a business does not mean giving up and keeping quiet, my colleague tries to open a number of home-based businesses and continues to send offers to several new shell buyers around the world while supervising children's online learning.
It is obvious since I was talking about giving up on your business that I was not talking about those that temporarily close their business but about those that do so permanently, however as deisik stated above temporarily closing a business can be nothing more but delaying taking a definite decision about the future of the business, besides what guarantees the owner will be able to solve the problems of their business in the future when he has been out of the loop for months and depending on the industry that could be enough for the game to have changed significantly.

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August 03, 2020, 08:16:13 PM
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IT isn't looking very promising these days

Depends on your location if you are a local service provider but if you are working online then there are massive opportunities because you can learn new languages and polish yourself and find new level of clients with every new skill you learn

If you are working online, you are going to face extreme competition these days. Are you reading the forum? It is full of posts from some web-developer complaining about that thing exactly

Indeed, there's no rule without an exception, and if you are offering some local services (I dunno, maybe network stuff or in-house developing) or taking a very specific niche (you know, without "the cheap Hindu element in it", yet), then you should probably stay.

Can you please clarify because as far as I understand you are into some religious bs which is not the right thing to discuss on a public forum

No, this has nothing to do with religion

I'm mostly referring to this post. So if you are a developer or something to that tune, you should be familiar with this phenomenon, the so-called "legendary cheap Hindus". To set things straight, this is not my invention. However, I've heard about it from different sources at quite different times, so there is definitely a grain of truth in it

Anyways coming back to topic, I believe offering local services can be a tricky part of a job because locals near you would always know what is the real cost of the service you provide them while working online for clients abroad can get you higher payment for the same service that you provide locally

You don't take into account the tough competition that you will have to cope with and get rid of when offering your services online. In other words, the "legendary cheap Hindus"

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August 04, 2020, 04:49:34 PM
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Instead of leaving your IT business and moving into agriculture, how about you run the both Businesses?

A situation cannot make you kill your IT Business, think of other people that are into the same Business, do you think they quit because of this? You just have to come up with a new strategy that will help your business growth. And if you’re afraid, then agriculture can be done in a small scale so you will be able to focus on both. And as for BTC, no matter the price there will always be people who are ready to buy it.

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August 09, 2020, 07:22:33 AM
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Such things like the Euros have beaten the US dollars when it comes to price value and government pulling out businesses are all effects of the existing pandemic. Yes, those can be considered as a total nightmare but such things are just for temporary while the world is still into the situation of crisis brought by the pandemic.

The US dollars value have been beaten up all due because up until right now US is still struggling to control or manage the number of the infected individuals in their country which brought their economy to experience declination because they are still the leading on the top most part of the world when it comes to the number of infected individuals by covid-19.

On the other hand, government is not totally pulling out the businesses. It just so happen that sudden temporary closure must be implemented to exhibit health protocols needed to control and prevent the spread of virus. But with the new normal set up existing, businesses are back into operation with minimal working capacity and following strict protocols to ensure the safety of everyone not to get infected by the virus.

Such things are just temporary although they were a total nightmare as of now, but such things will soon to come to an end once the vaccine become available to treat the virus leading everything get back to normal.

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August 09, 2020, 12:19:35 PM
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Instead of leaving your IT business and moving into agriculture, how about you run the both Businesses?

A situation cannot make you kill your IT Business, think of other people that are into the same Business, do you think they quit because of this? You just have to come up with a new strategy that will help your business growth. And if you’re afraid, then agriculture can be done in a small scale so you will be able to focus on both. And as for BTC, no matter the price there will always be people who are ready to buy it.


Re-assessing is very important in which ever field you may be. One should be ready for a change and keep moving it. Also upgrading our self is so very important and if one is fully confident that the next move is totally in the win -win situation and would prove much better than existing one then one might need to take a chance else it might land someone in trouble due to such wrong move.

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August 09, 2020, 03:04:37 PM
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Instead of leaving your IT business and moving into agriculture, how about you run the both Businesses?

A situation cannot make you kill your IT Business, think of other people that are into the same Business, do you think they quit because of this? You just have to come up with a new strategy that will help your business growth. And if you’re afraid, then agriculture can be done in a small scale so you will be able to focus on both. And as for BTC, no matter the price there will always be people who are ready to buy it.
If you look at what the OP said, he never said he is shutting down his IT business and moving to agriculture. Why would you think that he is running a business with many employees and turning to agriculture when he plainly said he is moving because there is no scope and the competition is really high and the stress is too much and in my opinion if the OP wants to move to something that gives him happiness that is more than important than anything else.
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August 09, 2020, 03:14:28 PM
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Agriculture is good as your stepping stone to having an extra source of income even though it is not easy but for me, there's no need to eliminate or reject something to change new , because your daily routine is a part of your dream plan going to succeed because the new technology is still waiting for you, Instantly, you should do anything to warm up to overcome the total nightmare.

It's great these days if you're producing clean food like the high quality veggies for vegan freaks.
I don't see how bitcoin going up against the dollar could be a bad thing and make it hard to buy it. Even if it goes to 100k it's still going to be easy to buy. You just have to stop looking at 1 BTC like you look at 1 of any other currency. With Bitcoin getting 0.1 is a step in the right direction. Times where people were giving away 1BTC for free are gone forever.

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August 09, 2020, 04:23:54 PM
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Agriculture is good as your stepping stone to having an extra source of income even though it is not easy but for me, there's no need to eliminate or reject something to change new , because your daily routine is a part of your dream plan going to succeed because the new technology is still waiting for you, Instantly, you should do anything to warm up to overcome the total nightmare.

It's great these days if you're producing clean food like the high quality veggies for vegan freaks.
I don't see how bitcoin going up against the dollar could be a bad thing and make it hard to buy it. Even if it goes to 100k it's still going to be easy to buy. You just have to stop looking at 1 BTC like you look at 1 of any other currency. With Bitcoin getting 0.1 is a step in the right direction. Times where people were giving away 1BTC for free are gone forever.

Airdrop of tokens are still here though. There are certain projects that airdrop to holders, EOS holders usually get airdrops from new tokens and same with ETH holders which some developers decide to send out airdrops for marketing. Its not however valuable. Nothing is given for free today. Its better to just buy at least 0.1BTC if you have plans to ride the train.

An option to grow your own veges like tomatoes or so will save you, it only takes 3 months and you can already harvest some of these plans. Cucumber and bitter gourd grows anywhere and will ony take less than 3 months to bear.


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August 09, 2020, 07:22:06 PM
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A big plus of agriculture is that you can feed yourself and your family with quality products. And if you will do everything right and you have enough capital, then you can also sell what you have grown. I think you also will have time for your design services.

This is the one of advantages and the second one came on surface during this pandemic. Many countries closed their borders and import was difficult, also for agriculture products and people turned tp domestic products, for which they know how are where were grown. This is the advantage.that every agriculture producer should use.

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August 09, 2020, 07:40:41 PM
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This is a total nightmare

Gold is now 1941.25 usd today
Euro value is increasing against the USD ...
What this means is that soon i will have to increase my prices to 5-10%...
BTC is now above 10200 usd ( How in the hell is going to buy btc ? if no one will have money to buy )
Govs are putting us out of business ...


I think i am moving from IT to agriculture (as i got some land ... ) ,there is no way my IT biz will survive like this ...

Oh and you don't know the half of it, 4% of the price increase of btc during July was fictional, as it was due to USD losing value compared to everything else, which in turn made it also lose value against BTC. I think there needs to be a better standarized FIAT to compare against.
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August 09, 2020, 10:12:28 PM
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Airdrop of tokens are still here though. There are certain projects that airdrop to holders, EOS holders usually get airdrops from new tokens and same with ETH holders which some developers decide to send out airdrops for marketing. Its not however valuable. Nothing is given for free today. Its better to just buy at least 0.1BTC if you have plans to ride the train.

An option to grow your own veges like tomatoes or so will save you, it only takes 3 months and you can already harvest some of these plans. Cucumber and bitter gourd grows anywhere and will ony take less than 3 months to bear.

Speaking of vegetables, I don't follow the phenomenon that occurs in other countries. But in my country since the pandemic, the trend of gardening, growing vegetables hydroponically and raising fish in buckets has become a new habit for many people, whether it's for killing time and looking for new activities during quarantine, or because of the rampant campaign for family food self-sufficiency by eating what is produced by the family is a necessity due to the pandemic which will further destroy the joints of the economy of individuals, groups, and countries.

Besides the pandemic, everyone is getting creative and starting to learn to sell what they can make. Many have campaigned that "the 1 USD we spend on our friends' products can mean today's food for them." Many are moved because many consumers can still use their savings to support others, but the question is how long? until the pandemic rolls over, there will be more victims economically and socially, so that purchasing power will decrease over time.

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August 11, 2020, 01:14:06 PM
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How i wish its just a total nightmare that when i woke up everything around me is normally go smoothly just like the old time. But then,  the reality hits me.  We are in deep chaos and all the people around the world is extremely affected by this crisis. Too many losses in all forms and the economy began to drop down. And in order for us to survive, its not bad to try something new, an alternative ways to earn for a living. It only depends on our capacity and passion to do those things that we can benefit with. We can all still be productive in our own ways, despite the profession or job we are currently doing or we usually do. Being infront of a computer and working in a digital world for a long time is quite fine as long as you are still getting big profits. If not at all, i suggest it should be wise to do some agricultural stuff and be with nature. It could actually refresh our minds and be more active positively amidst of this covid-19 Pandemic. 
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