The first thing that came into my dingbat little head when I saw this device was this:



The second thing I thought of was a first generation iPod, which I don't have a picture of.  Anyway, I wouldn't say the Passport is particularly elegant-looking, and I don't think it's necessarily as minimalistic as other HW wallets.  I do like the screen and I do like the physical buttons, but would I buy one of these?  Probably not. 

Why?  Because I think a Ledger Nano S or X can do everything the Passport can do and more, and both of those have track records of satisfied users (same for Trezor).  If I could buy one of these things for as much or less than a Keepkey, I might try it out--but I have a feeling the price point is going to be much higher.

So it can be fully "air gapped"... it'll be for scanning QR Codes etc... aside from the SDCard there is no other way for it to be able to read data in... it doesn't have BT or USB.

Please don't tell me that Ledger is more elegant than Passport.  
People are starting to make Ledger cult in this forum, and don't get me wrong I do own Ledger wallet.
Ledger looks a like old USB drive you can get for 50 cents   and don't let me start with their shity Ledger Live  
and their recent leak and data breach: https://www.ledger.com/addressing-the-july-2020-e-commerce-and-marketing-data-breach



I predict minimum price of $900  

Yeah, Ledger is similar to cheap USB drive, but I don't think it's bad, I don't think that hardware wallet needs fancy design. Ledger is little, light, compact and simple wallet. While Passport looks like big phone made 20 years ago. I think that with current technologies, they were able to make device smaller and more compact.

Might be, I wouldn't be surprised at all .

I won't (and didn't) tell you that, because I don't think either one is very elegant. 

Though I'm a fan of the Ledger, I wouldn't be a part of that cult.  I've had a few annoying problems with my Ledger, and it's far from perfect.  But as far as it looking like an old flash drive, I consider that a positive feature since it makes it much easier to hide.

Ledger Live isn't too bad in my experience, but just like the Ledger device itself it's got lots of room for improvement.  It's a good thing they keep updating LL.

I wouldn't disagree with that, but at least people still use USB drives. Nobody has owned a phone which looks like the Passport for 15+ years. And yes, Ledger Live is bad, which is why most people use Electrum as the interface instead.

Don't get me wrong - I like the airgapped designed, and I like their commitment to being open sourced (although no links to their GitHub yet), I just don't see myself carrying such a device around with me. Perhaps I would use it as a hardware wallet that stays at home.

They won't be. They used standard AAA batteries, so you just replace them when they run out.

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I also wonder if they are reading this thread. At some point since my earlier post less than 12 hours ago showing concern about their back up methods, the page I linked (https://foundationdevices.com/passport/details/) has been updated to include that back ups are available via "standard 24 word seed". Good to know it will be BIP39 compatible.

Lots of potential positives about this wallet, I just personally find the physical design a bit of a sticking point.

So I could get more of a feel for the size involved, I plugged all the numbers in to here (along with an old Nokia phone for comparison): https://comparesizes.com/comparison/Nano-S-vs-Trezor-One-vs-Nano-X-vs-Passport-vs-Nokia-3310/1596053880559

The size is much closer to an old Nokia phone than it is to other common hardware wallets. That won't be an issue for many people, but for someone who is used to carrying around and concealing a hardware wallet no bigger than a USB stick or a credit card, it's a major sticking point. I can't slip it inside my wallet. I can't attach it to my keys. I can't even comfortably fit it in the pocket of some jeans alongside my wallet or phone.

Oh I also added dollar bill just to compare size, and Nokia 3310 is not old brick exactly.
You also need to open your Ledger wallet so in reality it is double the size when you use it.


Yes you can, and you can easily get your data hacked and sold on internet and dark web.
And why would you ever carry your fortune with you all the time?
People lose keys and cheap USB drives very easy from jeans, or some girl can stole them from your pocket if you look to much in her tits  

Sorry for messing with your Ledger worship gang, but somebody has to.  

Exactly.
I never carry it with myself or on my keys

The size when I'm using it is fairly irrelevant since I also have to have my laptop open to use it. It's the size when I'm trying to inconspicuously carry it around with me that concerns me.

I don't. The majority of my holdings are on various encrypted airgapped wallets or paper wallets. However, I would rarely put more than $50 on a mobile wallet, so if I'm out and about or traveling and anticipate the need to use bitcoin, then I want a small hardware wallet I can easily carry with me.

I am very much not a part of a Ledger worship gang. I like their devices, I hate their software interface, and now have major concerns regarding their attitudes towards customer privacy.

As I said above, that's entirely up to you and so you may love the Passport. As someone who does carry a hardware wallet around, this device does not fulfill the criteria I need it to. Each to their own.

The ColdCard people are not real happy with them at the moment:

https://twitter.com/nvk/status/1288860345864527874

I'm kind of torn about it. Part of me is thinking it's OSS people can do what they want you released it that way.
The other part is yeah, if you are making money from someones code or plan to make money from someones code although you might not owe them money you should be contributing something.

-Dave