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July 30, 2020, 12:37:56 PM
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Mistakes are common in this life, and we all make mistakes at one point or the other in our lives. I am writing this on behalf of my friend who has opened up to like 4 accounts and all has been banned, he even paid for like 2 of them for upgrade. Yet it was blocked at the slightest error. It is now safe to conclude that the admins of this forum want to make this a money making venture, looking for every excuse to ban people without a fair warning.
He told me the post that was claimed to have been erred has been deleted, isn't that enough punishment? Then the account got banned permanently, up to 4 accounts, there's no hope when one appeals, i am appealing to the moderator responsible to please unban my friends account @da_primate(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=947001;sa=summary).

He promised to abide by the rules of the forum to the letters going forward.
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July 30, 2020, 03:34:14 PM
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Your friend already has 50 posts he should already know how members are behaving or how members are posting but based on what I've seen on your friends post, all the posts are either bounty posts or spam,after 50 posts he finally realized that this forum has a rule about spamming, your friend did not even read one rule of this forum, he deserves to be ban.
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July 30, 2020, 04:15:07 PM
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Yes, we are treated very unfairly. Your friend should probably read the rules if he keeps getting banned. It looks like that account was banned for copy and pasting at least:

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July 30, 2020, 04:23:23 PM
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Your so-called friend was of the "bitcoin has a bright future" class of shitposters:

With crypto, the future is bright.

That leads me to the obvious conclusion that he was only here to use the forum as a place of employment, to make money, which is exactly what you've accused the forum of doing.  Bit hypocritical, wouldn't you say?  It's also wrong, since forum moderators don't ban members to make a profit for anyone--not themselves and not the forum in general.  Too bad your "friend" got burned with the accounts he bought, but them's the brakes.  No loss to the rest of us.

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July 30, 2020, 05:16:34 PM
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Then the account got banned permanently, up to 4 accounts, there's no hope when one appeals, i am appealing to the moderator responsible to please unban my friends account @da_primate(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=947001;sa=summary).

He promised to abide by the rules of the forum to the letters going forward.
Probably more of his accounts might be banned in the future as well, because once you are banned then you are banned from bitcointalk forever.You might had a chance if you are an old member and had contributed more towards this forum's development but new account has zero chance.

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July 30, 2020, 06:02:14 PM
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If I were a mod, I'd add "no whining" to the list of forum lines, and you'd have been banned after only one post.

"My friend blah blah..."

The French say: "Il ne faut pas prendre les gens pour des cons". It's not the content of your post that offends me, it's the fact that you take all the rest of us for dumb shitheads.

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July 30, 2020, 10:37:31 PM
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Mistakes are common in this life, and we all make mistakes at one point or the other in our lives. I am writing this on behalf of my friend who has opened up to like 4 accounts and all has been banned, he even paid for like 2 of them for upgrade. Yet it was blocked at the slightest error. It is now safe to conclude that the admins of this forum want to make this a money making venture, looking for every excuse to ban people without a fair warning.
He told me the post that was claimed to have been erred has been deleted, isn't that enough punishment? Then the account got banned permanently, up to 4 accounts, there's no hope when one appeals, i am appealing to the moderator responsible to please unban my friends account @da_primate(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=947001;sa=summary).

He promised to abide by the rules of the forum to the letters going forward.

that "slightest error" you mentioned, other than it, being against the rules, it is also is frowned upon in this forum and has banned hundreds maybe thousand of accounts so why is it unfair when the account of your "friend" get banned?

It is now safe to conclude that the admins of this forum want to make this a money making venture, looking for every excuse to ban people without a fair warning.

what do you mean no fair warning? these threads exist to warn and inform newbies on what to do and not to do in the forum.
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July 30, 2020, 11:49:26 PM
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Mistakes are common in this life, and we all make mistakes at one point or the other in our lives. I am writing this on behalf of my friend who has opened up to like 4 accounts and all has been banned, he even paid for like 2 of them for upgrade. Yet it was blocked at the slightest error. It is now safe to conclude that the admins of this forum want to make this a money making venture, looking for every excuse to ban people without a fair warning.
He told me the post that was claimed to have been erred has been deleted, isn't that enough punishment? Then the account got banned permanently, up to 4 accounts, there's no hope when one appeals, i am appealing to the moderator responsible to please unban my friends account @da_primate(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=947001;sa=summary).

He promised to abide by the rules of the forum to the letters going forward.
He had 4 banned accounts and you are a newbie. Hm. Smells fishy. Maybe, he is not your friend. Maybe, you are an alt of that 4 accounts.

How do you say a fair treatment, if your friend himself broke the rules of the forum? Ban evasion is highly forbidden in this forum. If he tried to spam the forum by his own alts, he should be punished according to rules.

We don't want it to happen to your (friend). But being rude to spammer is good than letting them throw garbage posts in this forum.

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July 31, 2020, 01:08:52 AM
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Bruh, upgrading the status of your account doesn't make you able to lord over mistakes. There were benefits provided to you when you paid to upgrade your account, so you can't really use that as an excuse to plead for forgiveness. That's like asking for forgiveness in the court because you pay taxes. Now doesn't that sound ridiculous? You sound the same tbh. He had 4 accounts, which should be more than enough time for him to understand the rules and regulations of the forum. It's not like you get banned suddenly without reason. Heck, this just makes us question your "friends" capabilities, since he had full capability to plagiarize, yet zero capability on reading rules and understanding them?

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July 31, 2020, 01:17:46 AM
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I'd say it's fair. A rule is a rule. You're right everyone gets a second chance but those 4 accounts are probably all the same account owner shit posting. That's 4 chances already! what are you talking about. Even if you're a copper member, you don't get special treatment here.
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July 31, 2020, 02:13:59 AM
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Mistakes are common in this life, and we all make mistakes at one point or the other in our lives.

Yeah! You're correct on that part and I also believe that it was a natural phenomenon. However, making this as an excuse or a sort of encouragement to feel them guilty for what your friend did here won't work. Rules are rules, he hould take the punishment for violating it. As simple as that. I'm not getting pessimistic but it's better for you to give up on him already simply because mods' decision is always final and irrevocable.

He had 4 banned accounts and you are a newbie. Hm. Smells fishy. Maybe, he is not your friend. Maybe, you are an alt of that 4 accounts.
Lol, let's give him the benefit of the doubt for now Cheesy  Maybe he is his real friend and just concerned on the situation. Creating a new accoun by just raising a voice is not a new thing here.
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July 31, 2020, 03:35:55 AM
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Mistakes are common in this life, and we all make mistakes at one point or the other in our lives. I am writing this on behalf of my friend who has opened up to like 4 accounts and all has been banned, he even paid for like 2 of them for upgrade. Yet it was blocked at the slightest error. It is now safe to conclude that the admins of this forum want to make this a money making venture, looking for every excuse to ban people without a fair warning.
He told me the post that was claimed to have been erred has been deleted, isn't that enough punishment? Then the account got banned permanently, up to 4 accounts, there's no hope when one appeals, i am appealing to the moderator responsible to please unban my friends account @da_primate(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=947001;sa=summary).

He promised to abide by the rules of the forum to the letters going forward.

The accounts are banned for the reason already explained but i will like to highlight a point here. If your friend paid two of your accounts for copper membership, this does not mean that he has any special privilege to not to abide by the forum rules. You will still be treated as a normal member of the forum.

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July 31, 2020, 06:12:57 AM
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Mistakes are common in this life, and we all make mistakes at one point or the other in our lives. I am writing this on behalf of my friend who has opened up to like 4 accounts and all has been banned, he even paid for like 2 of them for upgrade. Yet it was blocked at the slightest error. It is now safe to conclude that the admins of this forum want to make this a money making venture, looking for every excuse to ban people without a fair warning.
He told me the post that was claimed to have been erred has been deleted, isn't that enough punishment? Then the account got banned permanently, up to 4 accounts, there's no hope when one appeals, i am appealing to the moderator responsible to please unban my friends account @da_primate(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=947001;sa=summary).

He promised to abide by the rules of the forum to the letters going forward.

The way you are appealing so desperately, it seems you are another alt account of those whom accounts are banned and friend is only a drama here.

Yes, we are treated very unfairly. Your friend should probably read the rules if he keeps getting banned. It looks like that account was banned for copy and pasting at least:

People need to understand that plagiarism is not a simple mistake, its a crime.

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July 31, 2020, 07:43:09 AM
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That leads me to the obvious conclusion that he was only here to use the forum as a place of employment, to make money, which is exactly what you've accused the forum of doing.  Bit hypocritical, wouldn't you say?  It's also wrong, since forum moderators don't ban members to make a profit for anyone--not themselves and not the forum in general.  Too bad your "friend" got burned with the accounts he bought, but them's the brakes.  No loss to the rest of us.

Moderators are just doing what they should do to prevent the increasing number of users who are only posting for the sake of money.

Most of the users are not prioritizing the real purpose of this forum where we should focus on making quality and informative posts or replies and make good discussions.

This should serve as a lesson to anyone who are making shitposts just to earn money with their nonsense replies.

Your friend already has 50 posts he should already know how members are behaving or how members are posting but based on what I've seen on your friends post, all the posts are either bounty posts or spam,after 50 posts he finally realized that this forum has a rule about spamming, your friend did not even read one rule of this forum, he deserves to be ban.

In that 50 posts, he didn't even realize that spamming is prohibited maybe it's too late for him to change the way he posts. It is your friend's loss especially that he even spent his money for an account that wasn't properly managed.
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July 31, 2020, 08:24:59 AM
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I am assuming that accounts weren't of your friends. Forum admin/moderators banning you (the person), not limited to your account. That means even you create a thousand accounts then all accounts will ban if you are evading a ban. Creation multiple accounts isn't the reason for your ban, seems you (or your friend) copy paste post from other sources as @hilariousandco already pointed out. So it wouldn't be a mistake since you are consciously copying and pasting other's posts. This is a nonprofit forum, so no one forcing you to join here and pay the fee. It's a crypto-currency discussion community & gain knowledge about it. So blaming the admin is quite ridiculous.

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July 31, 2020, 08:27:00 AM
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You have been banned for plagiarism. Do not you think plagiarism is also a crime in real life? If you even did not real the rules at all, you should know that plagiarism isn't a good behavior and you should not do that.
Actually, I mean your friend by the word "you".

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July 31, 2020, 11:05:51 AM
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Mistakes are common in this life, and we all make mistakes at one point or the other in our lives. I am writing this on behalf of my friend who has opened up to like 4 accounts and all has been banned, he even paid for like 2 of them for upgrade. Yet it was blocked at the slightest error. It is now safe to conclude that the admins of this forum want to make this a money making venture, looking for every excuse to ban people without a fair warning.
He told me the post that was claimed to have been erred has been deleted, isn't that enough punishment? Then the account got banned permanently, up to 4 accounts, there's no hope when one appeals, i am appealing to the moderator responsible to please unban my friends account @da_primate(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=947001;sa=summary).

He promised to abide by the rules of the forum to the letters going forward.

We don't see that it was on behalf of your friend. If it was so, shouldn't you be not a newbie here? I mean such reasoning could still point that you are that "friend" that were banned and just posted such thread for what purpose? Un-ban a shitposter that most of his post only is a one-liner and even had many of them on off-topic section? Dude this isn't a twitter thing that you could post as shorter as you want. Yes he had freedom, but making 4 accounts with the same points of unnecessary short posts would be enough reason to be banned. Also, with your newbie account "protecting" your friend is also a mere point that he is evading his ban.

Not to hate, but there's no unfair treatment for over the years until you voice out the impossible.

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July 31, 2020, 12:20:15 PM
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Well, not too long ago there was a case whereby a Legendary member referred a friend that plagiarized and got permbanned despite being guided. In the end, there's zero-tolerance on that.

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July 31, 2020, 12:59:12 PM
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I am assuming that accounts weren't of your friends. Forum admin/moderators banning you (the person), not limited to your account. That means even you create a thousand accounts then all accounts will ban if you are evading a ban. Creation multiple accounts isn't the reason for your ban, seems you (or your friend) copy paste post from other sources as @hilariousandco already pointed out. So it wouldn't be a mistake since you are consciously copying and pasting other's posts. This is a nonprofit forum, so no one forcing you to join here and pay the fee. It's a crypto-currency discussion community & gain knowledge about it. So blaming the admin is quite ridiculous.

This account has not only plagiarism but also previously banned profiles. Very often people like him like to blame the whole world for their failure. Everyone around them is guilty and angry for them. If someone finds “accidental” plagiarism, in his opinion, he should immediately warn him. Very funny.
In addition to plagiarism, YOSHIE found other banned alternative profiles . Therefore, everything that this pathetic character writes is a lie, from start to finish.

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July 31, 2020, 03:51:59 PM
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So you all are justifying the fact that he was banned without a sort of warning? He agreed, he might have broken a rule, but is deleting the post or reducing rank not better than outright ban.

He creates great contents, he isn't using this for as a source of income as assumed by many, he just come here to seek knowledge and educate people. please can you forgive and just lift the ban. deranking is better than outright ban. He should be monitored for a while to ensure he stick to the rules. Its his love for the forum that makes him come here all the time, and even invite friends to the forum.
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