[SCAM]LEDU CAMPAIGN

[btc_angela]

What surprises me though is that such an experienced bounty manager accepted campaign without getting money up front, or at least escrowed it.

That surprised me too that he didn't get paid upfront. Well, may be his payment was to be in two parts — Bitcoin and the project token, and they did pay him only the project token leaving out that of Bitcoin. But if at all they didn't pay him any, that will be poor negotiation on Murat's part. However, the good thing about the whole situation is the escrow part and this is why every BM should have projects' tokens escrowed to them as part of the negotiations. Good one, Murat. All isn't lost at all.

It could be that case, but as you have said Murat is an experience bounty manager so he knows what he is doing. And the moment that he was screwed by the campaign, then he called them scammers and the community supported him. So I'm sure that LEDU tokens will slowly break into pieces and won't be a success because of this accusations. So in the end, it was not Murat lost, but the project itself.

[Murat]

Here is what happened with LEDU.

They hired me to run their signature ad campaign.

Paid me for first month. No issues

They (Ledu team) Agreed to pay for the 2nd month & asked me to start asap.

I started the campaign & sent the payment address for 2nd month.

they sent the tokens for participants, when i asked about my payment. they stared giving excuse (Checking with team etc)

The CEO SAID they don't give a shit on Bitcointalk flags or Bitcointalk.

I paid the participants the tokens for 2nd month as they send the payment for participants & didn't get the my payment for 2nd month. which is 1k USD. The CEO sent some threating PM a few months ago & i blocked him. Now I really don't give a fuck about the payment now & the flag will stay after all of this.

Update - Everyone Received their token (Deducted transaction fees)

Tx- https://etherscan.io/address/0x129e28db2bc5eae7454df8ba8e194929c52bbd72#tokentxns

Best Regards
Murat

[willsey89]

Why do projects order bounty campaigns from third parties in 2020?  In the majority of cases, it ends badly for both of the parties.

[Odalv]

Why do projects order bounty campaigns from third parties in 2020?  In the majority of cases, it ends badly for both of the parties.

Probably the project lacks knowledge to hold a bounty campaign. 

[willsey89]

Do you really need so much knowledge to do that? It’s easy, the project needs just one manager for that, and you can order bounty signatures from a freelancer.   

[Odalv]

Do you really need so much knowledge to do that? It’s easy, the project needs just one manager for that, and you can order bounty signatures from a freelancer.   

Then why would they hire a manager for temporary work if a freelancer can do all of the job?
Please reply with quotes.

[willsey89]

Do you really need so much knowledge to do that? It’s easy, the project needs just one manager for that, and you can order bounty signatures from a freelancer.   

Then why would they hire a manager for temporary work if a freelancer can do all of the job?
Please reply with quotes.

It’s unlikely that an employee will go public with disagreements.   

[Odalv]

Do you really need so much knowledge to do that? It’s easy, the project needs just one manager for that, and you can order bounty signatures from a freelancer.   

Then why would they hire a manager for temporary work if a freelancer can do all of the job?
Please reply with quotes.

It’s unlikely that an employee will go public with disagreements.   

I worked on many bounty campaigns for projects and didn’t have any problems with most of them!

[willsey89]

I worked on many bounty campaigns for projects and didn’t have any problems with most of them!

As we can see from this topic, problems can take their toll both on a freelancer and a project. The point isn’t that you didn’t have problems with most of the projects you worked with, the point is that one disagreement can trigger so many consequences.

[Odalv]

I worked on many bounty campaigns for projects and didn’t have any problems with most of them!

As we can see from this topic, problems can take their toll both on a freelancer and a project. The point isn’t that you didn’t have problems with most of the projects you worked with, the point is that one disagreement can trigger so many consequences.

There won’t be any disagreements if everyone fulfills their obligations!

[willsey89]

I worked on many bounty campaigns for projects and didn’t have any problems with most of them!

As we can see from this topic, problems can take their toll both on a freelancer and a project. The point isn’t that you didn’t have problems with most of the projects you worked with, the point is that one disagreement can trigger so many consequences.

There won’t be any disagreements if everyone fulfills their obligations!

It’s not clear who is to blame in this case. Freelancers often act in bad faith and use fake accounts to get tokens. 

[Rikafip]

Why do projects order bounty campaigns from third parties in 2020?  In the majority of cases, it ends badly for both of the parties.

Beside the fact that projects hire bounty manager simply because they have more experience, bounty managers are also hired in order to attract more bounty hunters. The more reputable manager is, more bounty hunters will join.

From what I noticed, bounty managers often have their own telegram groups too with thousands of bounty hunters that basically join every single bounty campaign that manager hosts. Number of bounty hunters that they can attract is probably one of the arguments they use when negotiating with the poential client.

[willsey89]

thousands of bounty hunters that basically join every single bounty campaign that manager hosts. Number of bounty hunters that they can attract is probably one of the arguments they use when negotiating with the poential client.

Thousand hunters is good but a potential client can't check it's fake or real users.

[Odalv]

I worked on many bounty campaigns for projects and didn’t have any problems with most of them!

As we can see from this topic, problems can take their toll both on a freelancer and a project. The point isn’t that you didn’t have problems with most of the projects you worked with, the point is that one disagreement can trigger so many consequences.

There won’t be any disagreements if everyone fulfills their obligations!

It’s not clear who is to blame in this case. Freelancers often act in bad faith and use fake accounts to get tokens. 

But Murat accuses the project of not fulfilling its obligations.   

[willsey89]

But Murat accuses the project of not fulfilling its obligations.   

Now, we can’t find out who’s to blame because a lot of users here support Murat, probably they are his friends or followers.     

[Odalv]

But Murat accuses the project of not fulfilling its obligations.   

Now, we can’t find out who’s to blame because a lot of users here support Murat, probably they are his friends or followers.     

Why do you think they are his friends?   

[willsey89]

But Murat accuses the project of not fulfilling its obligations.   

Now, we can’t find out who’s to blame because a lot of users here support Murat, probably they are his friends or followers.     

Why do you think they are his friends?   

Because they post messages together in several topics. Also, the project claims that Murat had already received negative reviews before they started cooperating.     

[oliverlott]

Then why did they hire a freelancer who has negative reviews? 

[willsey89]

Then why did they hire a freelancer who has negative reviews? 

Maybe they found it out after they started working with him. 

[Odalv]

Freelancers often have nothing to do with bounty hunters and don’t know that they practise deception. Don’t baselessly accuse a bounty manager.