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August 15, 2020, 02:57:26 PM
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Most old-time gamblers are good at controlling and faking their emotion I don't think it will be an issue at all it's the newbies that will have a hard time proving if they can take a loss, because while you are learning how to gamble you'll also become good at concealing your real emotion
so it will be no problem for old gamblers.

I agree, the more experience you have with gambling the better you can handle your emotions. I have been gambling for a long time in physical casinos but only with a small bankroll, I got used to having bad beats where the luck just runs against you. It's always great to gamble in a biggger group so you see all kind of reactions.

In the end these kind of protections are mostly for the new gamblers, I think the chances of becoming hooked on gambling is especially high when you are new to all the games.
Eventually he can handled it, he can be used to it, he needed to know that in gambling there is always a higher risk that is needed to take, we can never always win in every game that we put our money, there will be times that we will lose the amount we invest sometimes, and maybe sometimes a lose streak will come, but we need to learn and endure the every setbacks in our game, have your emotion be stable as always.

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August 15, 2020, 03:20:12 PM
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Eventually he can handled it, he can be used to it, he needed to know that in gambling there is always a higher risk that is needed to take, we can never always win in every game that we put our money, there will be times that we will lose the amount we invest sometimes, and maybe sometimes a lose streak will come, but we need to learn and endure the every setbacks in our game, have your emotion be stable as always.

I think  that is exactly why these restrictions are in place to see if we gamblers are actually able to handle these losses. Controlling emotions is one of the hardest things ever, especially after a losing streak. For me personally it's very hard to stop after having bad beats. Because my brain keeps trying to find patterns where are none and wants me to keep trying to earn back my losses. I think every gambler will be at the mercy of his emotions a couple of times in his career. We are no robots afterall.
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August 15, 2020, 06:45:56 PM
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I think although this might sound like a good move from the part of the government that wants to regulate people to have as much less loss as possible and save them from gambling addiction, I don't think it's good to invade into people's privacy and command them what to do and what not to do with their hard earned money! If a person wanna gamble with their entire years salary, the government shouldn't have any say or order on it. They can advise although.
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August 15, 2020, 08:21:16 PM
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I think although this might sound like a good move from the part of the government that wants to regulate people to have as much less loss as possible and save them from gambling addiction, I don't think it's good to invade into people's privacy and command them what to do and what not to do with their hard earned money!

You got the point mate, it's about privacy and with this new rule in this specific country, I would not be surprise if gamblers will find crypto casinos as the best alternative to gamble, here, they can gamble as much as they want and they can keep that privacy on them.

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If a person wanna gamble with their entire years salary, the government shouldn't have any say or order on it. They can advise although.

That's my money, my rule, this is the rule we like.

Hope our government will not follow the same law as gambling addiction is also high in our country.

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August 15, 2020, 11:32:59 PM
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Eventually he can handled it, he can be used to it, he needed to know that in gambling there is always a higher risk that is needed to take, we can never always win in every game that we put our money, there will be times that we will lose the amount we invest sometimes, and maybe sometimes a lose streak will come, but we need to learn and endure the every setbacks in our game, have your emotion be stable as always.

I think  that is exactly why these restrictions are in place to see if we gamblers are actually able to handle these losses. Controlling emotions is one of the hardest things ever, especially after a losing streak. For me personally it's very hard to stop after having bad beats. Because my brain keeps trying to find patterns where are none and wants me to keep trying to earn back my losses. I think every gambler will be at the mercy of his emotions a couple of times in his career. We are no robots afterall.
well that's why that's the reason why gambling establishments have to declare that the age must be over 18 years of age and over because only adults who are adults will be easy to control their emotions, while for people who are not yet mature or still under 18 years of age it will be difficult to control. his emotions when he loses.

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August 16, 2020, 10:19:37 AM
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Why do you have to prove that you can take losses and whom you have to prove it?. Most people will get hurt if he/she lose so much money unless you are a billionaire. That is why self-control is very important to those who gamble to avoid gambling addiction or worse than gambling addiction.

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August 16, 2020, 11:26:00 AM
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Why do you have to prove that you can take losses and whom you have to prove it?. Most people will get hurt if he/she lose so much money unless you are a billionaire. That is why self-control is very important to those who gamble to avoid gambling addiction or worse than gambling addiction.

Every gambler should already be aware that losing is also a big possibility in gambling so they should "technically" should have already the proper mental conditioning if ever they lose all their money in a gamble. Problem is that not everybody has that mentality and that they are going to a casino or gambling house only to win. That is not a good mentality if you ask me. They should bring only the money that they can accept to lose so as not to have any depression or mental issues that will be raised if ever he loses.

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August 16, 2020, 03:56:46 PM
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Why do you have to prove that you can take losses and whom you have to prove it?. Most people will get hurt if he/she lose so much money unless you are a billionaire. That is why self-control is very important to those who gamble to avoid gambling addiction or worse than gambling addiction.

Based on the article, if you want to gamble more than 100 euro, you will be subjected to a strict affordability check by an independent gambling ombudsman. This is also proposed since there are a lot of stories in the UK about problems including gambling. It may be easy for us that we can control ourselves but it is not the same for other people. It is a mental problem, that is why they are having these solutions.

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August 16, 2020, 03:59:24 PM
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...Addiction is the biggest enemy here...

No, it is not addiction, it is ourselves. Humans are natural sinners and greed is just a part of us. The biggest enemy here is ourselves, how we will be able to stop those losses, how to stop betting when we don't need to bet anymore, to decide correctly. If we will be able to control ourselves we don't need this cap to stop us from gambling, we can do that ourselves.

Yeah that what he is referring to, that because of addiction, someone might find it really hard to be well disciplined on managing our money.
Greed and addiction correlates with each other, and they can make you to lose money and eventually yourself.
So we must keep plans healthy when we are gambling and we must avoid being addicted where we cannot control ourselves anymore.
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August 16, 2020, 04:10:22 PM
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Gamblers from UK are the one who should worry because this report is coming out from UK OP did not mentioned in his article whose government implemented this rule, gamblers operator should worry too because they will have less profit and many will not play frequently than they used to be, UK people are to much into gambling that the government have to intervene, and this is not a good intervention.
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Gamblers from UK are the one who should worry because this report is coming out from UK OP did not mentioned in his article whose government implemented this rule, gamblers operator should worry too because they will have less profit and many will not play frequently than they used to be, UK people are to much into gambling that the government have to intervene, and this is not a good intervention.

Fact is there that heavy addictions bring this proposal.

Without any information about gambling addictions, we won't see this news, the government needs to take
actions in finding the right solution to lessen the case of this gambling problem. For now, gamblers from UK
are the subject but who knows after that if this proposal bring every government an idea to adopt and make
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August 16, 2020, 05:54:33 PM
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...Addiction is the biggest enemy here...

No, it is not addiction, it is ourselves. Humans are natural sinners and greed is just a part of us. The biggest enemy here is ourselves, how we will be able to stop those losses, how to stop betting when we don't need to bet anymore, to decide correctly. If we will be able to control ourselves we don't need this cap to stop us from gambling, we can do that ourselves.

Yeah that what he is referring to, that because of addiction, someone might find it really hard to be well disciplined on managing our money.
Greed and addiction correlates with each other, and they can make you to lose money and eventually yourself.
So we must keep plans healthy when we are gambling and we must avoid being addicted where we cannot control ourselves anymore.

Addiction to something is always bad for our mental or physical health. If you go to a casino or a slot table then you will see a lot of different types of people there.
some people are going to casino after finishing their work, they just hang out with their friends and gamble. such type of gamblers is not addicted they spend a certain amount of money for gambling. They take gambling as an entertaining thing and as a result, their mental stress is reduced by going to casino.
On the other hand, there are some people who have not enough money for gambling. but they are badly addicted. they are involved in various social misdeeds to finance gambling. I wanna tell that, gambling is good until you addicted on it.

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August 16, 2020, 10:29:46 PM
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Gamblers from UK are the one who should worry because this report is coming out from UK OP did not mentioned in his article whose government implemented this rule, gamblers operator should worry too because they will have less profit and many will not play frequently than they used to be, UK people are to much into gambling that the government have to intervene, and this is not a good intervention.
What is good intervention?, any government that can't help the citizens to save for their future when things go worse like what is going on in the country. We'll know what the coronavirus pandemic has caused and still causing and for any government to make such decisions in order to control their citizens in my opinion is a fair treatment and it's a good intervention.

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August 16, 2020, 11:14:58 PM
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Gamblers from UK are the one who should worry because this report is coming out from UK OP did not mentioned in his article whose government implemented this rule, gamblers operator should worry too because they will have less profit and many will not play frequently than they used to be, UK people are to much into gambling that the government have to intervene, and this is not a good intervention.

There are two sides that will be affected actually.

1-Gambling operation is going to reduce their profit significantly.  (bad for operators, bad or good for government)

2-Gamblers (bad or good), bad for high roller gamblers, good for addicted gamblers.


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August 16, 2020, 11:28:36 PM
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Gamblers from UK are the one who should worry because this report is coming out from UK OP did not mentioned in his article whose government implemented this rule, gamblers operator should worry too because they will have less profit and many will not play frequently than they used to be, UK people are to much into gambling that the government have to intervene, and this is not a good intervention.

There are two sides that will be affected actually.

1-Gambling operation is going to reduce their profit significantly.  (bad for operators, bad or good for government)

2-Gamblers (bad or good), bad for high roller gamblers, good for addicted gamblers.



It would really have its pro's and cons but in this case this will affect gambling industry on said country if they are just really concerned into its citizens then why they cant just banned it fully?

They are still giving a new rule or limits but it wont really be that enough.For gamblers who do live into this place will surely find up ways to gamble which is way more that on the amount that had
been restricted.

We know that there are lots of ways to do so.

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August 16, 2020, 11:58:45 PM
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Gamblers from UK are the one who should worry because this report is coming out from UK OP did not mentioned in his article whose government implemented this rule, gamblers operator should worry too because they will have less profit and many will not play frequently than they used to be, UK people are to much into gambling that the government have to intervene, and this is not a good intervention.

There are two sides that will be affected actually.

1-Gambling operation is going to reduce their profit significantly.  (bad for operators, bad or good for government)

2-Gamblers (bad or good), bad for high roller gamblers, good for addicted gamblers.


well when that happens, the government will control the gambling place because in fact the government cannot control the gambling place, because it is a private business, in several gambling places in Las Vegas and others I see the government does not dare to do this.

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August 16, 2020, 11:59:34 PM
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They are still giving a new rule or limits but it wont really be that enough

In my observation, gambling in the UK is heavily demanded especially during the times of lockdown. With this, gambling will be a good source of the government's revenue and can also give jobs to their people.

But the concern is, some gamblers do wreck and as a result, they faced financial problems. So instead of the government fully banning the gambling industry completely, which surely they won't do, they want to implement rules so that people there will be controlled. A good initiative but difficult to implement. The law about this needs to be adjusted.
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It would really have its pro's and cons but in this case this will affect gambling industry on said country if they are just really concerned into its citizens then why they cant just banned it fully?

They are still giving a new rule or limits but it wont really be that enough.For gamblers who do live into this place will surely find up ways to gamble which is way more that on the amount that had
been restricted.

We know that there are lots of ways to do so.

banning gambling is worster than creating a rule   . i thought your concern about the rules  ? pros and cons have an affect but there were good effects here not only bad .  

rules can change ,  it will be enough or not yet enough depends on their observation but its dangerous if you will push your self outside thier rules  .
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Gamblers from UK are the one who should worry because this report is coming out from UK OP did not mentioned in his article whose government implemented this rule, gamblers operator should worry too because they will have less profit and many will not play frequently than they used to be, UK people are to much into gambling that the government have to intervene, and this is not a good intervention.

There are two sides that will be affected actually.

1-Gambling operation is going to reduce their profit significantly.  (bad for operators, bad or good for government)

2-Gamblers (bad or good), bad for high roller gamblers, good for addicted gamblers.


well when that happens, the government will control the gambling place because in fact the government cannot control the gambling place, because it is a private business, in several gambling places in Las Vegas and others I see the government does not dare to do this.

They can't control but they can regulate as long as the business is legally operating, so it's still the same because if they will not follow the regulation, they will lose their license and they will operate illegally which is risky for them even if you say they are private.

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Gamblers from UK are the one who should worry because this report is coming out from UK OP did not mentioned in his article whose government implemented this rule, gamblers operator should worry too because they will have less profit and many will not play frequently than they used to be, UK people are to much into gambling that the government have to intervene, and this is not a good intervention.

There are two sides that will be affected actually.

1-Gambling operation is going to reduce their profit significantly.  (bad for operators, bad or good for government)

2-Gamblers (bad or good), bad for high roller gamblers, good for addicted gamblers.


well when that happens, the government will control the gambling place because in fact the government cannot control the gambling place, because it is a private business, in several gambling places in Las Vegas and others I see the government does not dare to do this.

They can't control but they can regulate as long as the business is legally operating, so it's still the same because if they will not follow the regulation, they will lose their license and they will operate illegally which is risky for them even if you say they are private.

I agree with you, they can do anything they want but they should also be ready in facing the consequences of their action as they will break the law.

Even in Vegas and other popular casinos, as long as the authorities are strictly enforcing the law, everyone is treated fairly.

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