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August 20, 2020, 09:53:53 AM
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It's clearly stated that the government is trying to regulate even more the gambling casinos because some folks lost their jobs and must get a salary to spend, it's a weird situation and a weird move from the part of the gov but it is logical enough to be implemented. The gamblers should only bet what they only afford to lose and this is why the new rules are going to be implemented, to prevent peoples from risking their salaries, risking bigger amounts and losing all of their funds which is catastrophic.
I believe that Government interference is very important in our time now because they are the one who's to blame if these people have no food to eat in their tables.

I love when government make such move because this is for the goodness of the people and nothing personal.

instead of denying the fact lets support the initiative and the process is really helpful not only to the gambler but for the whole country a well.

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August 20, 2020, 01:08:32 PM
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It's clearly stated that the government is trying to regulate even more the gambling casinos because some folks lost their jobs and must get a salary to spend, it's a weird situation and a weird move from the part of the gov but it is logical enough to be implemented. The gamblers should only bet what they only afford to lose and this is why the new rules are going to be implemented, to prevent peoples from risking their salaries, risking bigger amounts and losing all of their funds which is catastrophic.
I believe that Government interference is very important in our time now because they are the one who's to blame if these people have no food to eat in their tables.
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Well, it is not their fault if these gamblers get addicted to gambling, all they can really do now is to control those people especially if this is really growing as a huge problem that could affect the country. I also think that this is not an interference, I think of it as their way to remind these gamblers that they need to regulate their gambling activities, that they need to control themselves.

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August 21, 2020, 08:18:03 AM
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It's clearly stated that the government is trying to regulate even more the gambling casinos because some folks lost their jobs and must get a salary to spend, it's a weird situation and a weird move from the part of the gov but it is logical enough to be implemented. The gamblers should only bet what they only afford to lose and this is why the new rules are going to be implemented, to prevent peoples from risking their salaries, risking bigger amounts and losing all of their funds which is catastrophic.
I believe that Government interference is very important in our time now because they are the one who's to blame if these people have no food to eat in their tables.
...

Well, it is not their fault if these gamblers get addicted to gambling, all they can really do now is to control those people especially if this is really growing as a huge problem that could affect the country. I also think that this is not an interference, I think of it as their way to remind these gamblers that they need to regulate their gambling activities, that they need to control themselves.
no one says that it is governments fault mate because being addicted is either the person itself fault or people around him ,what i am saying is this is a good move from the government to interfere in something that they know can help gamblers.

actually it was not their obligation but to have a good economic country people must be in right mind to help the government make the country great.

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August 21, 2020, 12:35:12 PM
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It's clearly stated that the government is trying to regulate even more the gambling casinos because some folks lost their jobs and must get a salary to spend, it's a weird situation and a weird move from the part of the gov but it is logical enough to be implemented. The gamblers should only bet what they only afford to lose and this is why the new rules are going to be implemented, to prevent peoples from risking their salaries, risking bigger amounts and losing all of their funds which is catastrophic.
I believe that Government interference is very important in our time now because they are the one who's to blame if these people have no food to eat in their tables.
...

Well, it is not their fault if these gamblers get addicted to gambling, all they can really do now is to control those people especially if this is really growing as a huge problem that could affect the country. I also think that this is not an interference, I think of it as their way to remind these gamblers that they need to regulate their gambling activities, that they need to control themselves.
no one says that it is governments fault mate because being addicted is either the person itself fault or people around him ,what i am saying is this is a good move from the government to interfere in something that they know can help gamblers.
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Well, im talking about when you says that they will be blamed if these people have no food to eat though I agree with you about the interferance, it is just that I look at it in different term of the word and yeah, a very good move for them. To be honest, as you said, it is either the people themselves or the people aorund them is the reason for that.

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August 21, 2020, 04:34:39 PM
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Gamblers from UK are the one who should worry because this report is coming out from UK OP did not mentioned in his article whose government implemented this rule, gamblers operator should worry too because they will have less profit and many will not play frequently than they used to be, UK people are to much into gambling that the government have to intervene, and this is not a good intervention.

There are two sides that will be affected actually.

1-Gambling operation is going to reduce their profit significantly.  (bad for operators, bad or good for government)

2-Gamblers (bad or good), bad for high roller gamblers, good for addicted gamblers.


well when that happens, the government will control the gambling place because in fact the government cannot control the gambling place, because it is a private business, in several gambling places in Las Vegas and others I see the government does not dare to do this.
They can't control but they can regulate as long as the business is legally operating, so it's still the same because if they will not follow the regulation, they will lose their license and they will operate illegally which is risky for them even if you say they are private.

I agree with you, they can do anything they want but they should also be ready in facing the consequences of their action as they will break the law.

Even in Vegas and other popular casinos, as long as the authorities are strictly enforcing the law, everyone is treated fairly.
I think a gambler is pre_aware about his loss and profit in gambling So he must know how to handle it. No one is playing for free so instead of making tough rules for them government should understand people invest their money to earn something. It is all the gambler’s own skill if he lose all or all something from gambling. I think Good gamblers won’t feel free if government Will interfere their consequences.

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August 21, 2020, 04:55:49 PM
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Gamblers from UK are the one who should worry because this report is coming out from UK OP did not mentioned in his article whose government implemented this rule, gamblers operator should worry too because they will have less profit and many will not play frequently than they used to be, UK people are to much into gambling that the government have to intervene, and this is not a good intervention.

There are two sides that will be affected actually.

1-Gambling operation is going to reduce their profit significantly.  (bad for operators, bad or good for government)

2-Gamblers (bad or good), bad for high roller gamblers, good for addicted gamblers.


well when that happens, the government will control the gambling place because in fact the government cannot control the gambling place, because it is a private business, in several gambling places in Las Vegas and others I see the government does not dare to do this.
They can't control but they can regulate as long as the business is legally operating, so it's still the same because if they will not follow the regulation, they will lose their license and they will operate illegally which is risky for them even if you say they are private.

I agree with you, they can do anything they want but they should also be ready in facing the consequences of their action as they will break the law.

Even in Vegas and other popular casinos, as long as the authorities are strictly enforcing the law, everyone is treated fairly.
I think a gambler is pre_aware about his loss and profit in gambling So he must know how to handle it. No one is playing for free so instead of making tough rules for them government should understand people invest their money to earn something. It is all the gambler’s own skill if he lose all or all something from gambling. I think Good gamblers won’t feel free if government Will interfere their consequences.
As long as the gamblers are not disobeying the law, they are free to do what they want. If they want to spend gambling in full time, let them be, it's their choice and their life. I doubt that the government will focus on this kind of person because obviously, there are more people we should think more and should be prioritized.

Gamblers are probably adults, they can manage themselves, if they did something wrong, they should face the consequences of those actions. Simple as that. If they choose to be broke, then let them be, it's their life, the higher-ups don't have time to help them on each individual problems. Their priority is to focus on the problems that affect the economy.

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August 21, 2020, 05:47:55 PM
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Well, it is not their fault if these gamblers get addicted to gambling, all they can really do now is to control those people especially if this is really growing as a huge problem that could affect the country. I also think that this is not an interference, I think of it as their way to remind these gamblers that they need to regulate their gambling activities, that they need to control themselves.
Exactly ! We as people shpuld be responsble for every decisions that we are made. We need to accept if we lose something because of our negligence. Casinos only cares for their businesses, the life of their customers are not their obligation, as long as the casinos are obeying the law they will continue it, gamblers must take their own responsibilities and take care of their own losses as well.

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August 21, 2020, 09:48:19 PM
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Even if the government mailing the gamblers about their laws or bills or fine, the gamblers will not care because they don't even read that mails. They will still play gambling, but if one of their family members care about them, they will remind the gamblers to stop for a while from gambling. It is hard if the addicted person to gambling knows if he is addicted or not, it needs other people to help them realize and see the fact. If we need to prove that we are fine with the loss, maybe that will embarrass them, so it needs other people that can show them that gambling is not good for that gambler.

So this is the reason why government should act directly on casino owners  Smiley If casino will ban you for some time after some amount you've lost, you'll get calm and have time to do some useful activities. The amount of people which is highly addicted (meaning they will register new accounts through VPN or something like this) is much less than full amount of people who is in danger zone.

So, at least one time, government do their job right.

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August 21, 2020, 10:01:25 PM
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Well, it is not their fault if these gamblers get addicted to gambling, all they can really do now is to control those people especially if this is really growing as a huge problem that could affect the country. I also think that this is not an interference, I think of it as their way to remind these gamblers that they need to regulate their gambling activities, that they need to control themselves.
Exactly ! We as people shpuld be responsble for every decisions that we are made. We need to accept if we lose something because of our negligence. Casinos only cares for their businesses, the life of their customers are not their obligation, as long as the casinos are obeying the law they will continue it, gamblers must take their own responsibilities and take care of their own losses as well.

If that's how gamblers would think, there would be no problem and regulation like this would not be created. Gambling site is not at fault when gamblers lose as we know they are into profit, hence they should operate with an edge which would mean when we are gambling, we don't have the advantage. What people needs to change is their mindset, treating gambling as a way of entertainment than a way to earn way is the best treatment.

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August 22, 2020, 03:57:00 AM
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It's clearly stated that the government is trying to regulate even more the gambling casinos because some folks lost their jobs and must get a salary to spend, it's a weird situation and a weird move from the part of the gov but it is logical enough to be implemented. The gamblers should only bet what they only afford to lose and this is why the new rules are going to be implemented, to prevent peoples from risking their salaries, risking bigger amounts and losing all of their funds which is catastrophic.
I believe that Government interference is very important in our time now because they are the one who's to blame if these people have no food to eat in their tables.
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Well, it is not their fault if these gamblers get addicted to gambling, all they can really do now is to control those people especially if this is really growing as a huge problem that could affect the country. I also think that this is not an interference, I think of it as their way to remind these gamblers that they need to regulate their gambling activities, that they need to control themselves.
no one says that it is governments fault mate because being addicted is either the person itself fault or people around him ,what i am saying is this is a good move from the government to interfere in something that they know can help gamblers.
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Well, im talking about when you says that they will be blamed if these people have no food to eat though I agree with you about the interferance, it is just that I look at it in different term of the word and yeah, a very good move for them. To be honest, as you said, it is either the people themselves or the people aorund them is the reason for that.
Oh i get it,we have look at the different perspective but with the same thoughts,Good government will do such thing but we also know that only few of them has this concern over gamblers.
Because the truth is the more gamblers played and loss is the more taxes they can claim over those casinos so the corrupt country care nothing about Gamblers but their benefits only.

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Well, it is not their fault if these gamblers get addicted to gambling, all they can really do now is to control those people especially if this is really growing as a huge problem that could affect the country. I also think that this is not an interference, I think of it as their way to remind these gamblers that they need to regulate their gambling activities, that they need to control themselves.
Addiction of the gamblers isn't tolerable especially if they are always doing it. The government can't do anything to but to do things like this that can help these addicted gamblers lessen their addiction into it.

I'm thinking too if the regulation that the government will put into these gambling casinos will affect the tax that they are paying or not. Hmmmmmm but anyway this will be a great help for the gamblers but I doubt that all of them will agree with this move.

 
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August 22, 2020, 10:54:04 AM
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Well, it is not their fault if these gamblers get addicted to gambling, all they can really do now is to control those people especially if this is really growing as a huge problem that could affect the country. I also think that this is not an interference, I think of it as their way to remind these gamblers that they need to regulate their gambling activities, that they need to control themselves.
Exactly ! We as people shpuld be responsble for every decisions that we are made. We need to accept if we lose something because of our negligence. Casinos only cares for their businesses, the life of their customers are not their obligation, as long as the casinos are obeying the law they will continue it, gamblers must take their own responsibilities and take care of their own losses as well.

We're already done on that.

The Government is just trying to solve one of the problems in their community and there's nothing wrong with that. Because if the Government will not take any action regarding on this matter, they are the one who is going to suffer in the end. What I mean is, the poverty will just going to spread and the Government will be more in tough situation giving aids to those who needs it.

That is why they came up to such solution hoping that would help those people who are addicted in gambling to lessen their addiction slowly.

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August 22, 2020, 06:02:56 PM
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Even if the government mailing the gamblers about their laws or bills or fine, the gamblers will not care because they don't even read that mails. They will still play gambling, but if one of their family members care about them, they will remind the gamblers to stop for a while from gambling. It is hard if the addicted person to gambling knows if he is addicted or not, it needs other people to help them realize and see the fact. If we need to prove that we are fine with the loss, maybe that will embarrass them, so it needs other people that can show them that gambling is not good for that gambler.

So this is the reason why government should act directly on casino owners  Smiley If casino will ban you for some time after some amount you've lost, you'll get calm and have time to do some useful activities. The amount of people which is highly addicted (meaning they will register new accounts through VPN or something like this) is much less than full amount of people who is in danger zone.

So, at least one time, government do their job right.

Except the German government which I think is the less corrupted in the world from what I have seen when I worked there a few years ago,I believe no other government can be really trusted to be fair and a lot of cases of governments abusing their power through government officials who intentionally bribed different businesses including casinos and this cases have been quite some.So I think that the government should be independent from businesses and let them do as they like as long as they don't break any rules of the government laws where they operate.

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August 22, 2020, 07:26:44 PM
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It's clearly stated that the government is trying to regulate even more the gambling casinos because some folks lost their jobs and must get a salary to spend, it's a weird situation and a weird move from the part of the gov but it is logical enough to be implemented. The gamblers should only bet what they only afford to lose and this is why the new rules are going to be implemented, to prevent peoples from risking their salaries, risking bigger amounts and losing all of their funds which is catastrophic.
While I agree that in these difficult times some people may try to multiply their money in the casino and lose all of it in the process, at the same time not much is going to change with this law, think about it if those people were going to lose their money to the casinos it is entirely possible they are desperate enough to try other means of making some quick cash and they will lose their money anyway, so while this law may seem as a way to protect addicted gamblers the truth is that those people will lose their money in other ways and as such it is impossible to protect them no matter what kind of law is passed.
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August 22, 2020, 08:24:45 PM
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Well, it is not their fault if these gamblers get addicted to gambling, all they can really do now is to control those people especially if this is really growing as a huge problem that could affect the country. I also think that this is not an interference, I think of it as their way to remind these gamblers that they need to regulate their gambling activities, that they need to control themselves.
Addiction of the gamblers isn't tolerable especially if they are always doing it. The government can't do anything to but to do things like this that can help these addicted gamblers lessen their addiction into it.

I'm thinking too if the regulation that the government will put into these gambling casinos will affect the tax that they are paying or not. Hmmmmmm but anyway this will be a great help for the gamblers but I doubt that all of them will agree with this move.
I always wonder why they want restrictions if they don't want people to get addicted, simply ban could be enough right? So I feel there are lot of politics involved in such kind of decisions anyways lets come to the point, is it really going to stop the people from getting into more gambling? Absolutely not they have to work hard to earn more to satisfy their addictive nature.
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Addiction of the gamblers isn't tolerable especially if they are always doing it. The government can't do anything to but to do things like this that can help these addicted gamblers lessen their addiction into it.

I'm thinking too if the regulation that the government will put into these gambling casinos will affect the tax that they are paying or not. Hmmmmmm but anyway this will be a great help for the gamblers but I doubt that all of them will agree with this move.

It seems to me that ordinary players who do not have an addiction and like to sometimes spend time playing, will suffer from such restrictions. A dependent person will always find ways to circumvent the restrictions and continue playing as much as they want. Forbidden fruit is sweet.

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August 23, 2020, 09:33:52 AM
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Well, it is not their fault if these gamblers get addicted to gambling, all they can really do now is to control those people especially if this is really growing as a huge problem that could affect the country. I also think that this is not an interference, I think of it as their way to remind these gamblers that they need to regulate their gambling activities, that they need to control themselves.
Addiction of the gamblers isn't tolerable especially if they are always doing it. The government can't do anything to but to do things like this that can help these addicted gamblers lessen their addiction into it.

I'm thinking too if the regulation that the government will put into these gambling casinos will affect the tax that they are paying or not. Hmmmmmm but anyway this will be a great help for the gamblers but I doubt that all of them will agree with this move.
I always wonder why they want restrictions if they don't want people to get addicted, simply ban could be enough right? So I feel there are lot of politics involved in such kind of decisions anyways lets come to the point, is it really going to stop the people from getting into more gambling? Absolutely not they have to work hard to earn more to satisfy their addictive nature.
Politics and bribe included is I think common on this kind of negotiations, There are more easier ways to stop gamblers to play like what you have said but of course casino owners wouldn't agree with this and they would make any move just not to shut down their casino. That's why I think they just put regulations and limits to it in order to balance out the situation and not by forcing to ban it in the whole country.

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August 23, 2020, 10:40:34 AM
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Already in several countries gambling is regulated. Very few countries follow it in a strict manner, while majority just stay liberal and give importance when something serious as suicide happens. Regulations were a must, but those regulations need to keep both the users and the gambling platform owners on the safer side.

I'm in very much on the side of the government if they want to regulate and provide a cap on every user about how much each can gamble because strictly speaking, even though the government makes good profit from casinos, but it shouldn't come at the expense of the citizens by having their hard earnt money ripped by misusing their addictions!
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August 23, 2020, 12:35:05 PM
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Well, it is not their fault if these gamblers get addicted to gambling, all they can really do now is to control those people especially if this is really growing as a huge problem that could affect the country. I also think that this is not an interference, I think of it as their way to remind these gamblers that they need to regulate their gambling activities, that they need to control themselves.
Addiction of the gamblers isn't tolerable especially if they are always doing it. The government can't do anything to but to do things like this that can help these addicted gamblers lessen their addiction into it.

I'm thinking too if the regulation that the government will put into these gambling casinos will affect the tax that they are paying or not. Hmmmmmm but anyway this will be a great help for the gamblers but I doubt that all of them will agree with this move.
I always wonder why they want restrictions if they don't want people to get addicted, simply ban could be enough right? So I feel there are lot of politics involved in such kind of decisions anyways lets come to the point, is it really going to stop the people from getting into more gambling? Absolutely not they have to work hard to earn more to satisfy their addictive nature.

As @Logitech says, the government are also thinking about the taxes they will be getting so they are putting this regulation but at the same time they do worry that the taxations happening might be lessen hence also affecting the government. There are obviously politics in there and we don't know what is happening between those curtains.

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Already in several countries gambling is regulated. Very few countries follow it in a strict manner, while majority just stay liberal and give importance when something serious as suicide happens. Regulations were a must, but those regulations need to keep both the users and the gambling platform owners on the safer side.

I'm in very much on the side of the government if they want to regulate and provide a cap on every user about how much each can gamble because strictly speaking, even though the government makes good profit from casinos, but it shouldn't come at the expense of the citizens by having their hard earnt money ripped by misusing their addictions!

It will not be fair to cap each individual with same amount of money allocated for gambling. Some people are rich and they can afford much more amount to gamble than the middle class or the lower class gambler. If government want to implement this rule, they should allot different limit for different categories of people.









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