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August 14, 2020, 08:52:35 AM
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we have to live with the virus on our daily living, because if we stop, we might die in hunger,  that's what the government thinking on why they allow casinos to operate despite of the pandemic, we should not question that.

Well, I hope that we doesn't live with it since if we does there will be a lot of people who will die from it. It may be invisible and just anywhere we can't see but that is why we should be always careful. We should protect ourselves and just go outside if we really needed it. These casinos needed profit, these workers needed money and we people need to take care. We can't do anything to help other than keeping ourselves from the virus.

Ofcourse. I think in things like this, you get everyone together and  agree on how to keep each other safe in crisis while businesses operate. I guess there is no easy way to do this than through good media or even going to the authorities/governments with few people who should represent every member of the city/town/community where the businesses are hosted. Not a good idea to be selfcentered in your community especially during crisis.

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August 14, 2020, 08:56:51 AM
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we have to live with the virus on our daily living, because if we stop, we might die in hunger,  that's what the government thinking on why they allow casinos to operate despite of the pandemic, we should not question that.

Well, I hope that we doesn't live with it since if we does there will be a lot of people who will die from it. It may be invisible and just anywhere we can't see but that is why we should be always careful. We should protect ourselves and just go outside if we really needed it. These casinos needed profit, these workers needed money and we people need to take care. We can't do anything to help other than keeping ourselves from the virus.

Ofcourse. I think in things like this, you get everyone together and  agree on how to keep each other safe in crisis while businesses operate. I guess there is no easy way to do this than through good media or even going to the authorities/governments with few people who should represent every member of the city/town/community where the businesses are hosted. Not a good idea to be selfcentered in your community especially during crisis.

Well, it is a solution but that is very hard to attain. We already know that people would just do anything they wanted to and even though people wanted to be free from this pandemic, there would be those people continuing to not follow those protocols. Going wherever they wanted, whenever they wanted like they own the place. Then it would just end up in these lawsuits like these places are to be blamed while it is half fault of these people.

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August 14, 2020, 10:24:14 AM
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we have to live with the virus on our daily living, because if we stop, we might die in hunger,  that's what the government thinking on why they allow casinos to operate despite of the pandemic, we should not question that.

Well, I hope that we doesn't live with it since if we does there will be a lot of people who will die from it. It may be invisible and just anywhere we can't see but that is why we should be always careful. We should protect ourselves and just go outside if we really needed it. These casinos needed profit, these workers needed money and we people need to take care. We can't do anything to help other than keeping ourselves from the virus.

If we want to help these people in the casino, we have to go out.

Me, I am not doing that as I gamble at home, but there are people who really are going into the casino to play, casino is already part of their life so they can afford to take the risk. Of course, we can still protect ourselves and that is following measures to minimize the risk of getting infected. We have to understand that there's always a risk, measures are only done to minimize that risk and both the casinos employees are gamblers are risking themselves.

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August 15, 2020, 09:33:53 AM
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If we want to help these people in the casino, we have to go out.

Gamblers go out and play in a casino but it's not their purpose, it's not helping the casino to generate income but to make money.

But,  we will lose even if we don't want to experience it, that's because they have the edge and sometimes we are so unrealistic.
Who would want to get entertain outside when the risk is very high, of course this people are aiming for money.

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August 15, 2020, 10:02:34 AM
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we have to live with the virus on our daily living, because if we stop, we might die in hunger,  that's what the government thinking on why they allow casinos to operate despite of the pandemic, we should not question that.

Well, I hope that we doesn't live with it since if we does there will be a lot of people who will die from it. It may be invisible and just anywhere we can't see but that is why we should be always careful. We should protect ourselves and just go outside if we really needed it. These casinos needed profit, these workers needed money and we people need to take care. We can't do anything to help other than keeping ourselves from the virus.

If we want to help these people in the casino, we have to go out.

Me, I am not doing that as I gamble at home, but there are people who really are going into the casino to play, casino is already part of their life so they can afford to take the risk. Of course, we can still protect ourselves and that is following measures to minimize the risk of getting infected. We have to understand that there's always a risk, measures are only done to minimize that risk and both the casinos employees are gamblers are risking themselves.

But that also leads to more cases, right? This leads to that loop where people should not go outside and keep theirselves from going to these casinos and then end up with these people needing the money, right? We all know that these casinos are said to earn less right now, meaning there are only a small percentage of people going in these casinos, maybe some already have the virus, that's why. Life is really hard in these pandemic, instead of these lawsuits, if they really wanted to go to these casinos, they should accept the risks.

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August 15, 2020, 10:31:45 AM
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If we want to help these people in the casino, we have to go out.

Gamblers go out and play in a casino but it's not their purpose, it's not helping the casino to generate income but to make money.

But,  we will lose even if we don't want to experience it, that's because they have the edge and sometimes we are so unrealistic.
Who would want to get entertain outside when the risk is very high, of course this people are aiming for money.
This is the reality even there is pandemic people still go out to make money. Some are being addicted that cannot even passed the day without go and playing in a casino. The risks is high but people do not believe in this pandemic happening even in the Us some do not bother to wear mask.
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August 15, 2020, 11:24:25 AM
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I don't think that is always right, it is just that we can't accept that we also have the mistakes. Like, for example there are a lot of people that are forcing themselves to gamble in these casinos instead of doing it online which makes themselves close to the virus and being contaminated and then they will be blaming these casinos for that. They aren't earning enough but still, they are earning and that means a lot of people are still going in there.

As long as they can pay their employees and can pay taxes to the government, I think that's already enough.
The risk is almost anywhere especially in places where people gathers but that's it, we have to live with the virus on our daily living, because if we stop, we might die in hunger,  that's what the government thinking on why they allow casinos to operate despite of the pandemic, we should not question that.

I think that is the risk they've taken.

If they chose to contaminate the virus, I think they would be focussing on having strict lockdowns but they should balance the two that is why they are maintaining the economy in a certain point but that is still affected by the pandemic going on. This is the best option they have, it is a risk but it is a risk they need to take. These lawsuits would be useless since these casinos can defend themselves with a lot of ways for them to get the virus.
Balancing the economy to the detriment of citizens shouldn't be involve in this regard as it has to do with the protection of lives. The sole responsibility of a good government is to ensure the citizens lives are kept to their best of their ability. In this case, allowing the casinos to go fully into operations without the consideration of the citizens is uncalled for. This virus is found where crowded gathering is and we'll know how physical casinos are always crowded.

In conclusion, saving the economy during this time through allowing the casinos go fully into operations shouldn't be the first priority of the government.

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August 15, 2020, 11:32:19 AM
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If we want to help these people in the casino, we have to go out.

Gamblers go out and play in a casino but it's not their purpose, it's not helping the casino to generate income but to make money.

But,  we will lose even if we don't want to experience it, that's because they have the edge and sometimes we are so unrealistic.
Who would want to get entertain outside when the risk is very high, of course this people are aiming for money.
This is the reality even there is pandemic people still go out to make money. Some are being addicted that cannot even passed the day without go and playing in a casino. The risks is high but people do not believe in this pandemic happening even in the Us some do not bother to wear mask.

really ? thats suck while we, we buy mask , face shields and everything just to follow what are told to us  .

 no matter how we protect our self to slow the spread , we cant stop violators  . going out to play gambling is allowed now but they should wear protection atleast because its not only for thier own good but its for the community as a whole   . gambling owners already help us in a way that they open on this kind of situation , its our turn to help in return by following simple instructions   .
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August 15, 2020, 11:47:43 AM
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If we want to help these people in the casino, we have to go out.

Gamblers go out and play in a casino but it's not their purpose, it's not helping the casino to generate income but to make money.

But,  we will lose even if we don't want to experience it, that's because they have the edge and sometimes we are so unrealistic.
Who would want to get entertain outside when the risk is very high, of course this people are aiming for money.
This is the reality even there is pandemic people still go out to make money. Some are being addicted that cannot even passed the day without go and playing in a casino. The risks is high but people do not believe in this pandemic happening even in the Us some do not bother to wear mask.
US is the country that has been experiencing the increased dear compared to rest of the countries. They've taken more preventive measures as well as increased the testing, but in between they started to concentrate on the economy. Based on that more relaxation were provided on each and everything, and this is the reason for the increased death. These days online casinos give the real-time experience of being in a casino. Gamblers can make use of it during this pandemic.

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August 15, 2020, 02:00:00 PM
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Las Vegas Casinos Scared of Lawsuits ?? any company big or small are scared of lawsuits this means that they have to spend for their lawyers and take time to attend hearings or their representative and it might harm their reputation, but I don't think any case against  casinos about COVID infection will stand it's hard to prove where one gets a COVID, victims will have to prove their case.

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August 15, 2020, 06:56:46 PM
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I agree there is no ground for lawsuit unless people who get infected can prove that they got infected in exactly defined casino that hasn't respected all prescribed measures. And that is not very likely to happen.

I am thinking how will they do that.

Trace every place that individuals went through the day or the other? With a lot of things happening right now, isn't that a waste of time? Either way, he/she wouldn't be getting the virus if she is in his/her house and not going to these places where the virus would obviously there lying dormant. They wanted to play in these casinos, obviously, they are risking themselves in getting the virus. This is also their fault.
The only ones that could somehow demonstrate that they got infected in the casino will be the persons that stay in some sort of lockdown but that only go out to play at the casino, however I really think that the subset of people that will do something like that is incredibly low, after all if you're willing to go to the casino to get some fun most likely you're willing to also visit a bar, your family, buy groceries, exercise in a public park and an endless list of activities that you can do outside and as such it will be impossible to demonstrate that you got infected at the casino.
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August 16, 2020, 02:15:43 AM
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I am thinking how will they do that.

Trace every place that individuals went through the day or the other? With a lot of things happening right now, isn't that a waste of time? Either way, he/she wouldn't be getting the virus if she is in his/her house and not going to these places where the virus would obviously there lying dormant. They wanted to play in these casinos, obviously, they are risking themselves in getting the virus. This is also their fault.

The only ones that could somehow demonstrate that they got infected in the casino will be the persons that stay in some sort of lockdown but that only go out to play at the casino, however I really think that the subset of people that will do something like that is incredibly low, after all if you're willing to go to the casino to get some fun most likely you're willing to also visit a bar, your family, buy groceries, exercise in a public park and an endless list of activities that you can do outside and as such it will be impossible to demonstrate that you got infected at the casino.

That is so true.

People could get it from a lot of places that leads us to a conclusion that I think this is not them suing the casinos because they really wanted to but I guess in this pandemic when people get contaminated by the virus, they will be blaming someone and that leads to suing casinos and even people. Usually this is all blame game that's happening.

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August 16, 2020, 01:10:04 PM
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Las Vegas Casinos Scared of Lawsuits ?? any company big or small are scared of lawsuits this means that they have to spend for their lawyers and take time to attend hearings or their representative and it might harm their reputation, but I don't think any case against  casinos about COVID infection will stand it's hard to prove where one gets a COVID, victims will have to prove their case.

All this is correct and in the end the individual who files the lawsuit may end up on the losing side. But it is going to take a lot of time and effort in fighting these frivolous lawsuits. And the worst part is that the American courts have a habit of handing down extremely heavy fines for the silliest of the reasons. There is widespread misuse of the judicial system, not just in the US but across the globe.
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August 16, 2020, 04:40:33 PM
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Las Vegas Casinos Scared of Lawsuits ?? any company big or small are scared of lawsuits this means that they have to spend for their lawyers and take time to attend hearings or their representative and it might harm their reputation, but I don't think any case against  casinos about COVID infection will stand it's hard to prove where one gets a COVID, victims will have to prove their case.

All this is correct and in the end the individual who files the lawsuit may end up on the losing side. But it is going to take a lot of time and effort in fighting these frivolous lawsuits. And the worst part is that the American courts have a habit of handing down extremely heavy fines for the silliest of the reasons. There is widespread misuse of the judicial system, not just in the US but across the globe.

Also, there's chances that the one who file this lawsuit are only waiting for settlement.

Both sides needs to spend time and money while the procedure is moving, there's a chance that both lawyers
will bring their best offers in order to end it up much quicker, most of the time money speak louder than anything.

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August 16, 2020, 10:19:04 PM
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Las Vegas Casinos Scared of Lawsuits ?? any company big or small are scared of lawsuits this means that they have to spend for their lawyers and take time to attend hearings or their representative and it might harm their reputation
They want to be exempted if there will be a complaint against them.

I don't think any case against  casinos about COVID infection will stand it's hard to prove where one gets a COVID, victims will have to prove their case.
They can contact trace and if they have their own method, they'll disclose it to the authorities and show that they have no cause. But the authorities can still find them cause if ever the infected person insists that their casino is the only establishment he/she has visited.

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As long as Las Vegas casinos do not violate the regulations set by the government, there is no need to fear lawsuits.
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August 16, 2020, 11:55:00 PM
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As long as Las Vegas casinos do not violate the regulations set by the government, there is no need to fear lawsuits.
If proven guilty and violating the established rules, of course, Las Vegas casinos must accept the consequences.
Therefore, always obey the applicable regulations if don't want to be subject to legal prosecution.

I don't even know how will they prove these casinos to be the reason these people got the virus. It might be their fault why they are even have the virus. I guess this really falls into the psychology as @Janation said, if they got the virus they tend to blame someone or anyone. As far as I know these casinos are following the protocols, it is the people that are not actually following it.

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August 16, 2020, 11:58:22 PM
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As long as Las Vegas casinos do not violate the regulations set by the government, there is no need to fear lawsuits.
If proven guilty and violating the established rules, of course, Las Vegas casinos must accept the consequences.
Therefore, always obey the applicable regulations if don't want to be subject to legal prosecution.

I don't even know how will they prove these casinos to be the reason these people got the virus. It might be their fault why they are even have the virus. I guess this really falls into the psychology as @Janation said, if they got the virus they tend to blame someone or anyone. As far as I know these casinos are following the protocols, it is the people that are not actually following it.
so far the gambling places that have been visited like the ones circulating in Las Vegas are still very few people who use their masks don't think about the virus, they only think about the profits that can be obtained from gambling venues, maybe the best solution is to provide some distance for everyone from the entrance to the gaming table.
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August 17, 2020, 02:15:00 AM
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The Coronavirus is affecting workers in Las Vegas and the lawsuits are being introduced because they are supported due the workers are not receiving the security measures for the Covid19.

In the report, it mentions two lawsuits filed by the Culinary Union against MGM Resorts and Caesars Entertainment.

Geoconda Argüello-Kline, Secretary-Treasurer for the Culinary Union, said:
"Workers who make this city run deserve to be protected and they are at risk everyday."


Coronavirus it is not a game, it is underestimated because it is silent and because in some cases the symptoms are mild.
I also see that it is incredible that the managers of these emblematic places in Las Vegas did not act with due protocol to protect their workers from Covid19.

In my country the workers are protected by face masks, eyes, head, gloves. When customers enter the establishment, they measure their temperature, and spray their hands with actibacterial gel, in some places they spray their hands with vinegar. I heard recently that those who do not smell the vinegar are suspected of Covid19.

In summary, the Lawsuits in this case are fair and it is time to react. Covid19 is lethal and the entities to whom it is responsible must safeguard the lives of their workers in these difficult times.
 
https://www.8newsnow.com/news/local-news/culinary-drops-two-lawsuits-against-mgm-leaves-caesars-lawsuit-in-place/


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August 17, 2020, 03:52:43 AM
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As long as Las Vegas casinos do not violate the regulations set by the government, there is no need to fear lawsuits.
If proven guilty and violating the established rules, of course, Las Vegas casinos must accept the consequences.
Therefore, always obey the applicable regulations if don't want to be subject to legal prosecution.

I don't even know how will they prove these casinos to be the reason these people got the virus. It might be their fault why they are even have the virus. I guess this really falls into the psychology as @Janation said, if they got the virus they tend to blame someone or anyone. As far as I know these casinos are following the protocols, it is the people that are not actually following it.

If the casino can strict to the people who want to come to their place, the casino can defend themselves in the lawsuits because they can prove that they always follow the protocols. When someone blames the casino that is the place of virus spreading, the casino will give the proof to the law, and the jury will see which is right and wrong.

If we see what happens now in many places, people tend to don't care about the protocols. Many of them are not wearing a mask in the public area. The police and related organizations from the government always remind them to follow the rules and the protocols, and if they still break, people will get fine.

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