hello every one i need help with old passphrase

[Kuw]

You may try some of these (some old) wallets - read explanation how it works:
https://walletsrecovery.org/

I think some people already had similar issue, there is still a chance the seeds are for blockchain:
https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/63697/why-is-this-12-word-mnemonic-deemed-invalid-by-multiple-wallets

Did you try Exodus?
https://support.exodus.io/article/42-how-do-i-restore-from-my-secret-12-word-phrase

https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/78620/wallets-with-bip44-support

BTW, if you know address, you my try to use this tool, to see if seed is 'broken' and could be repaired:
https://github.com/gurnec/btcrecover/blob/master/docs/Seedrecover_Quick_Start_Guide.md

i dont know how to use python

 ?

[Kuw]

and i use only the app not the web for blockchain

i dont know how to and where i can use the seeds in the web wallet ?

[Kuw]

i try exodus but it say wrong seeds

[PawGo]

and i use only the app not the web for blockchain

i dont know how to and where i can use the seeds in the web wallet ?

https://login.blockchain.com/#/recover

and I think this is for old seeds: https://login.blockchain.com/wallet/forgot-password

[HCP]

so i have already only 12 word seeds but its cut into two txt file

It would appear that it was either a poor attempt at trying to "secure" the 12 word seeds by cutting them in half and storing the halves separately... or perhaps they were copy/pasted badly out of a spreadsheet or off a website in groups of 6 rather than all 12 at once?

but the 6 word is longer than the 12 word and there is difrent in the last word of 6 seeds  ?

not sure exactly what you mean by this... do you mean that the number of lines in 6 word file is longer than 12 word file? I would expect that it should be twice as long

Are you saying that some of the words in the 6 word seeds, aren't the same as in a 12 word seed?

for instance:
6 word: foot ears india flow fell row
12 word: foot ears india flow fell hungry grow great level pill outer major

[Kuw]

so i have already only 12 word seeds but its cut into two txt file

It would appear that it was either a poor attempt at trying to "secure" the 12 word seeds by cutting them in half and storing the halves separately... or perhaps they were copy/pasted badly out of a spreadsheet or off a website in groups of 6 rather than all 12 at once?

but the 6 word is longer than the 12 word and there is difrent in the last word of 6 seeds  ?

not sure exactly what you mean by this... do you mean that the number of lines in 6 word file is longer than 12 word file? I would expect that it should be twice as long

Are you saying that some of the words in the 6 word seeds, aren't the same as in a 12 word seed?

for instance:
6 word: foot ears india flow fell row
12 word: foot ears india flow fell hungry grow great level pill outer major

6 word is : foot ears india flow fell arm
12 word is : foot ears india flow fell arm mm 655 ache yam zw hosco

not the same  only some 6 word starts same 12 word

[Kuw]

and i use only the app not the web for blockchain

i dont know how to and where i can use the seeds in the web wallet ?

https://login.blockchain.com/#/recover

and I think this is for old seeds: https://login.blockchain.com/wallet/forgot-password

it say  :  Invalid passphrase

[Kuw]

16b47khxws8ZbQW2Ba5jnWi5QcXkc8mz5J
19RcBc6c1WAaB5eMkwj2TkaNmRJF21DGr7
171qh1dY16KMj4NtXPFMhzJujSmUsSwDrV
1DaN5JeGUHz5qwNPvnX3D1GqbEQa9Bs3RC
1D5ccivNmhygv6tN9safiX9WCvZzWuFfSZ
1ByrvtzjSTz4coRrvhFSNVucymZTAnko7J
198cBbo2GFKSDoSVvbHPYbuw2csPUoBrMj
14A3JMa8jk5SWK7sVaY1XonA2A3Mz3jRrc
1ExthKrE9msUEtf9Nos1M9secxQBqWVPSW
1MFmtnGmoHniXt6cevXMY9GJd4QVaDzchT
16cknp9V3LhjnP8T1BsSXSmHvEyGJT5fk9


thats only the address and its total of more than 310 address
most of them have .1 or .2 btc

comes with ID number
and more say 10btc as a pic not txt

https://ibb.co/bmVtnF3

and  more

[TheBeardedBaby]

Don't waste your time on the 6 word passphrases. They are not seeds.
Those are only a blockchain.info wallet passphrases, but you need the decrypted private key. Let me know if you find any keys starting with '6P'. If you have them I might be able to help.

Can you please post at least one of those addresses you have access the 35BTCs already? Just one address, nothing more...

[Kuw]

Don't waste your time on the 6 word passphrases. They are not seeds.
Those are only a blockchain.info wallet passphrases, but you need the decrypted private key. Let me know if you find any keys starting with '6P'. If you have them I might be able to help.

Can you please post at least one of those addresses you have access the 35BTCs already? Just one address, nothing more...

the 35btc was already have privatekey file next to the address .

but i found a file that have something maybe you know what they mean .


that file was in Microsoft word  :

HOWTO FUND THE COIN
====================

1. Download list of generated addresses for Series 3 from this link: ( i delete the link )
use this key to download:  ( i delete the key )
2. Read and copy QR code of the back of printed certificate, this is the bitcoin address of your coin
3. Check that address just read is in the full list you downloaded. You can find this reading ‘bitcoin address’ column.
4. Check that ID number of front of the certificate match with ‘ID number’ column of that list too.
4. If steps 3 and 4 are OK the you can send the desired amount of btc to that address to fund the coin using your preferred bitcoin wallet.
5. Check your transaction is confirmed at http://blockchain.info/address/put-your-address-here


HOWTO REDEEM THE COIN
=======================

1. Peel off the security hologram of the coin

2. Read and copy QR code of the printed paper under the hologram, this is the encrypted private key of your coin (begin with ‘6P’).

3. Read and copy the passphrase printed on the back of certificate

Option 1: Using http://bit2factor.org (recommended)
---------------------------------------------------------------------

4. Go to Two-Factor Escrow -> Decrypt private key option
And paste there the encrypted private key (from step 2) and the passphrase (from step 3).
Finally click ‘Decrypt private key’ option and copy the private key (WIF format, begin with ‘5’).

5. Open your preferred (BIP38 compatible, like blockchain.info, bitcoin-qt, electrum) bitcoin wallet and find ‘import private key’ option or similar and paste there your private key from step 4.

6. Check your bitcoin wallet balance to reflect the amount of btc from recently imported coin.


Option 2: Using http://blockchain.info/wallet
----------------------------------------------------------

4. Go to ‘Import/export’ -> ‘Import private key’ option
And paste there the encrypted private key (from step 2) and click ‘import private key’, it will ask you the passphrase, so you will paste it (from step 3).
Finally click ‘import’ option.

5. Check your coin address will show in the wallet addresses list.

6. Check your bitcoin wallet balance to reflect the amount of btc from recently imported coin.

[PawGo]

2. Read and copy QR code of the printed paper under the hologram, this is the encrypted private key of your coin (begin with ‘6P’).

Exactly.

You have address, you have passphrase - all you miss is the encrypted private key.
Keys were written on the coins...
Now you know what you are looking for - maybe there is backup - list of "6P..." texts.

[Kuw]

2. Read and copy QR code of the printed paper under the hologram, this is the encrypted private key of your coin (begin with ‘6P’).

Exactly.

You have address, you have passphrase - all you miss is the encrypted private key.
Keys were written on the coins...
Now you know what you are looking for - maybe there is backup - list of "6P..." texts.

did not find any file with 6P

[Kuw]

it says the seeds will give me the 6P number

but where can i find it if the web i need to Using http://bit2factor.org  is close ?

[PawGo]

it says the seeds will give me the 6P number

but where can i find it if the web i need to Using http://bit2factor.org  is close ?

try https://www.bitaddress.org/

or maybe download this repository (if it is the archive of bit2factor.org)
https://github.com/mannkind/bit2factor.org

[BASE16]

The 6P is the encrypted private key you need to decrypt it with the 6 / 12 word passphrase to get the WIF private key.
See here: https://github.com/bitcoinjs/bip38#encryptbuffer-compressed-passphrase-progresscallback-scryptparams

[TheBeardedBaby]

Quoting for reference.

Don't waste your time on the 6 word passphrases. They are not seeds.
Those are only a blockchain.info wallet passphrases, but you need the decrypted private key. Let me know if you find any keys starting with '6P'. If you have them I might be able to help.

Can you please post at least one of those addresses you have access the 35BTCs already? Just one address, nothing more...

the 35btc was already have privatekey file next to the address .

but i found a file that have something maybe you know what they mean .


that file was in Microsoft word  :

HOWTO FUND THE COIN
====================

1. Download list of generated addresses for Series 3 from this link: ( i delete the link )
use this key to download:  ( i delete the key )
2. Read and copy QR code of the back of printed certificate, this is the bitcoin address of your coin
3. Check that address just read is in the full list you downloaded. You can find this reading ‘bitcoin address’ column.
4. Check that ID number of front of the certificate match with ‘ID number’ column of that list too.
4. If steps 3 and 4 are OK the you can send the desired amount of btc to that address to fund the coin using your preferred bitcoin wallet.
5. Check your transaction is confirmed at http://blockchain.info/address/put-your-address-here


HOWTO REDEEM THE COIN
=======================

1. Peel off the security hologram of the coin

2. Read and copy QR code of the printed paper under the hologram, this is the encrypted private key of your coin (begin with ‘6P’).

3. Read and copy the passphrase printed on the back of certificate

Option 1: Using http://bit2factor.org (recommended)
---------------------------------------------------------------------

4. Go to Two-Factor Escrow -> Decrypt private key option
And paste there the encrypted private key (from step 2) and the passphrase (from step 3).
Finally click ‘Decrypt private key’ option and copy the private key (WIF format, begin with ‘5’).

5. Open your preferred (BIP38 compatible, like blockchain.info, bitcoin-qt, electrum) bitcoin wallet and find ‘import private key’ option or similar and paste there your private key from step 4.

6. Check your bitcoin wallet balance to reflect the amount of btc from recently imported coin.


Option 2: Using http://blockchain.info/wallet
----------------------------------------------------------

4. Go to ‘Import/export’ -> ‘Import private key’ option
And paste there the encrypted private key (from step 2) and click ‘import private key’, it will ask you the passphrase, so you will paste it (from step 3).
Finally click ‘import’ option.

5. Check your coin address will show in the wallet addresses list.

6. Check your bitcoin wallet balance to reflect the amount of btc from recently imported coin.

This just convinced me that you have in possession the HDD of the creator of bhCoins.
See below.

Please explain how you got in control of the hard drive, obviously you are not the original creator of the physical coins. He knows how to redeem the bitcoinsfor sure.

The other question is why the creator kept private keys, and do those pr. keys belong to the physical coins.

UPDATE 15/04!!!!: [OPEN] bhCoins Serie 4 DIY physical bitcoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=951699.0

UPDATE 10/17: full list of generated address (only for buyers) is here https://mega.co.nz/#!fcsGRRYK

Hi, we’re proud to introduce you the brand new bhCoin 2F Serie 3 (BIP38 compatible or Two Factor coin).

It's a limited edition of 200 coins, and we reserve for ourself the first 20 of them.

We generate the encrypted key (BIP38) and we assemble the coin and send it to you via registered letter mail.

Along with the coin we send you a certificate with the passphrase randomly generated so you can redeem the coin funds on a bitcoin wallet compatible with BIP38, as blockchain.info/wallet is.

You contact us and we send you a custom payment address. After receiving the payment we ship you asap.

The coins are UNFUNDED. We can fund them if buyer send us the 0.1 btc for each coin.


It has been a long time but now we have registered our official forum user, until we post updates here we are considered as “newbie” (but we can give references from our actual clients).

We have freenode IRC user too.


Price will increase as the edition sells out.

We will wait your order!


HOWTO FUND THE COIN
====================

1. Download full list of generated addresses for Series 3 from this link: https://mega.co.nz/#!fcsGRRYK
use thes key provided by us to download the file.
2. Read and copy QR code of the back of printed certificate, this is the bitcoin address of your coin (begin with '1')
3. Check that address just read is in the full list you downloaded. You can find this reading ‘bitcoin address’ column.
4. Check that ID number of front of the certificate match with ‘ID number’ column of that list too.
4. If steps 3 and 4 are OK the you can send the desired amount of btc to that address to fund the coin using your preferred bitcoin wallet.
5. Check your transaction is confirmed at http://blockchain.info/address/put-your-address-here


HOWTO REDEEM THE COIN
=======================

1. Peel off the security hologram of the coin

2. Read and copy QR code of the printed paper under the hologram, this is the encrypted private key of your coin (begin with ‘6P’).

3. Read and copy the passphrase printed on the back of certificate

Option 1: Using http://bit2factor.org (recommended)
---------------------------------------------------------------------

4. Go to Two-Factor Escrow -> Decrypt private key option
And paste there the encrypted private key (from step 2) and the passphrase (from step 3).
Finally click ‘Decrypt private key’ option and copy the private key (WIF format, begin with ‘5’).

5. Open your preferred (BIP38 compatible, like blockchain.info, bitcoin-qt, electrum) bitcoin wallet and find ‘import private key’ option or similar and paste there your private key from step 4.

6. Check your bitcoin wallet balance to reflect the amount of btc from recently imported coin.


Option 2: Using http://blockchain.info/wallet
----------------------------------------------------------

4. Go to ‘Import/export’ -> ‘Import private key’ option
And paste there the encrypted private key (from step 2) and click ‘import private key’, it will ask you the passphrase, so you will paste it (from step 3).
Finally click ‘import’ option.

5. Check your coin address will show in the wallet addresses list.

6. Check your bitcoin wallet balance to reflect the amount of btc from recently imported coin.



You can check Serie 1 and Serie 2 of our coin here and here.


Donations welcomed at 1bhCoinfJEQZrFJchAwVxFsrMikyNoFSo

[LoyceV]

( i delete the link )

There's no point in deleting links, if the same text can be found in [CLOSED] bhCoins Serie 3 0.1 BTC denominated physical Bitcoin.

This just convinced me that you have in possession the HDD of the creator of bhCoins.

The data could have been kept by a buyer who kept records on how to redeem his physical coins.

The other question is why the creator kept private keys, and do those pr. keys belong to the physical coins.

Or why he had 35 BTC (or more) stored unencrypted on a hard drive.

[HCP]

The other question is why the creator kept private keys, and do those pr. keys belong to the physical coins.

Did he keep private keys those?

As far as I can tell, the download at mega.nz was simply a list of all the generated "addresses":

1. Download full list of generated addresses for Series 3 from this link: https://mega.co.nz/#!fcsGRRYK
use thes key provided by us to download the file.

The private keys were (quite rightly), only printed and "stored" on the physical coins themselves... underneath the security holograms:

HOWTO REDEEM THE COIN
=======================

1. Peel off the security hologram of the coin

2. Read and copy QR code of the printed paper under the hologram, this is the encrypted private key of your coin (begin with ‘6P’).

It seems the OP here has the Address List... and the "passphrase" list for decoding the BIP38 encoded private keys... but doesn't have access to the private keys from the physical coins themselves.

Essentially, OP has found a keychain with a whole bunch of keys on it... but doesn't have the "locked boxes" that these keys actual unlock

[TheBeardedBaby]

The other question is why the creator kept private keys, and do those pr. keys belong to the physical coins.

Did he keep private keys those?

I'm referring to those 35 bitcoins he manage to retrieve. He said that next to each address there was a private key or a seed.
I have no idea if those coins belong to the actual physical coins, that's why I asked for at least one address from those with the 35 btc funds. If this address appear in one of the lists with the coins, that it can be either someone who bought many coins, peeled them off and made a database with the addresses and private keys, or our OP have gotten in possession (legally or illegally) the actual hard-disk of the creator of the physical coins and they contained private keys which is not what the creator stated here.

~
the 35btc was already have privatekey file next to the address .

Looking at the pictures the OP has posted, I'm a bit more convinced that he might have access to the creators hard disk.

https://imgbb.com/bmVtnF3
https://imgbb.com/HKyBWHC

[LoyceV]

I have no idea if those coins belong to the actual physical coins

I could only find addresses for Series 1 and Series 4: none of those addresses have been redeemed recently.

Looking at the pictures the OP has posted, I'm a bit more convinced that he might have access to the creators hard disk.

We never got clear what's under the "Redeem" QR, but it's starting to make sense if that's a BIP38 encrypted private key.
However, this is what OP said about it:

the QR show only the btc address thats the problem and only with 6 word key to redeem and collect .

That wouldn't explain why he removed the Redeem QR. Unless it was blank already.