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August 10, 2020, 07:50:27 PM
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i have old 6 word passphrase and i wonder what and where can i find a wallet that accept or  use 6 passphrase for bitcoin

its from 2014 
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August 10, 2020, 07:57:02 PM
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Check this page: https://iancoleman.io/bip39/

For security you may try offline or download sources from git.

On the page you may convert your seed to private key, and then you should be able to import it to any client (like electrum, etc)
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August 10, 2020, 08:02:09 PM
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Never heard that there is a wallet that could generate 6 words seed phrase.

Anyway, can you try to install Electrum and enable the BIP39 option it might be work?
 
If not, the only option that I know is by using the iancoleman as suggested above



Coinomi wallet is another option I just found the idea from this link below.

- https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/78996/what-is-type-of-wallet-with-18-words-seed

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August 10, 2020, 08:14:43 PM
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https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/18zXdRJiosTZZ3cmUG8fjMewwpYG1FuDww

this is the address and it have 6 word passphrase

its on pdf by the way 
may any one can help me collect that please 
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August 10, 2020, 08:15:08 PM
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Check this page: https://iancoleman.io/bip39/

For security you may try online or...
Wrong piece of advice. OP should use the tool offline if they are security conscious.

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August 10, 2020, 08:22:46 PM
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You can use less words but it's not as secure.
Maybe you can check out different word lists to see which list was used to create the Mnemonic.
Here is the Bip39 wordlist https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0039/english.txt
If it's not that one then check out this one that was used in the past by electrum: https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum/blob/master/electrum/old_mnemonic.py
Depending on the method used you can turn the seed into a keypair.
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August 10, 2020, 08:26:37 PM
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Check this page: https://iancoleman.io/bip39/

For security you may try online or...
Wrong piece of advice. OP should use the tool offline if they are security conscious.

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August 10, 2020, 08:31:24 PM
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https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/18zXdRJiosTZZ3cmUG8fjMewwpYG1FuDww

this is the address and it have 6 word passphrase

its on pdf by the way 
may any one can help me collect that please 

Go to iamcoleman site
Enter your 6 words in  "BIP39 Mnemonic" field
Check tabs below, in one of them there should be your address, probably bip32.
If you find corresponding address, you may use value from column 'private key" to import into Electrum wallet, or any other software. Or even into blockchain.info web wallet (but do not do it).
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August 10, 2020, 08:41:13 PM
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https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/18zXdRJiosTZZ3cmUG8fjMewwpYG1FuDww

this is the address and it have 6 word passphrase

its on pdf by the way
So it's some sort of paper wallet? I'm curious: how did you make/get it? I've never heard of it before.
If the words aren't standard words, it might be a brain wallet. When you figure it out, don't forget you have about 5% in Forkcoins. But secure your Bitcoin first.

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August 10, 2020, 08:50:17 PM
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https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/18zXdRJiosTZZ3cmUG8fjMewwpYG1FuDww

this is the address and it have 6 word passphrase

its on pdf by the way
So it's some sort of paper wallet? I'm curious: how did you make/get it? I've never heard of it before.
If the words aren't standard words, it might be a brain wallet. When you figure it out, don't forget you have about 5% in Forkcoins. But secure your Bitcoin first.


its like that
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August 10, 2020, 09:31:49 PM
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Are there QR Codes in the "redeem" boxes that you have blanked out? Huh

If there are, then you should try and scan them using a wallet like Electrum that supports QR code scanning... you can use either the Desktop version (with a webcam) or the Android version.

When you create the new wallet, you select "Import Bitcoin Addresses or Private keys" and then select the little camera icon:
Desktop:



Android:



It's possible that the 6 word "passphrase" you have is actually a BIP38 passphrase, encrypting the private key... so, if you scan the "Redeem" and it comes up with a key that starts with "6P", then you'll need to decrypt that key...

I would recommend downloading an "offline" copy of bitaddress.org (or visit their github: https://github.com/pointbiz/bitaddress.org)

Then on the wallet details page, enter the BIP38 encrypted key (starts with 6P) and click view details:



It will prompt for the "BIP38" password:



Enter the 6 word passphrase from your PDF and click the "Decrypt BIP38" button... and hopefully that will decode it and show you the "normal" unencrypted private key:




You can test the BIP38 decryption process using this dummy BIP38 encrypted key:
BIP38 encrypted key: 6PYRJRTWwrPC7scdAPcWN9dujLRKVdMRYuKmhXuefzQGKXvqNe8Gjo7uLQ
BIP38 password: This is my password

It should decrypt these addresses/private keys:

Uncompressed:
Address: 18KmgRWoh2zYF7fBWUVzxqiipDNCoNAXEA
Privkey: 5JUfBBc8mkDewG7V4TB6b3Yc7zEW8dKY3gzkeVowwAqwms9HLTm

Compressed:
Address: 1DzAE79eJ8zbxVM67JWZCwkcxZMd4y8Q6
Privkey: Kz95Vwp5JVkrSVhcrEXZfGEW1qcbafJp2sXueWADU6T2kx2fE1Bh

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August 11, 2020, 09:16:25 AM
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Are there QR Codes in the "redeem" boxes that you have blanked out? Huh

If there are, then you should try and scan them using a wallet like Electrum that supports QR code scanning... you can use either the Desktop version (with a webcam) or the Android version.

When you create the new wallet, you select "Import Bitcoin Addresses or Private keys" and then select the little camera icon:
Desktop:



Android:



It's possible that the 6 word "passphrase" you have is actually a BIP38 passphrase, encrypting the private key... so, if you scan the "Redeem" and it comes up with a key that starts with "6P", then you'll need to decrypt that key...

I would recommend downloading an "offline" copy of bitaddress.org (or visit their github: https://github.com/pointbiz/bitaddress.org)

Then on the wallet details page, enter the BIP38 encrypted key (starts with 6P) and click view details:



It will prompt for the "BIP38" password:



Enter the 6 word passphrase from your PDF and click the "Decrypt BIP38" button... and hopefully that will decode it and show you the "normal" unencrypted private key:




You can test the BIP38 decryption process using this dummy BIP38 encrypted key:
BIP38 encrypted key: 6PYRJRTWwrPC7scdAPcWN9dujLRKVdMRYuKmhXuefzQGKXvqNe8Gjo7uLQ
BIP38 password: This is my password

It should decrypt these addresses/private keys:

Uncompressed:
Address: 18KmgRWoh2zYF7fBWUVzxqiipDNCoNAXEA
Privkey: 5JUfBBc8mkDewG7V4TB6b3Yc7zEW8dKY3gzkeVowwAqwms9HLTm

Compressed:
Address: 1DzAE79eJ8zbxVM67JWZCwkcxZMd4y8Q6
Privkey: Kz95Vwp5JVkrSVhcrEXZfGEW1qcbafJp2sXueWADU6T2kx2fE1Bh

the QR show only the btc address thats the problem and only with 6 word key to redeem and collect .
so what kind of wallet use 6 word passphrase ?
if you can help me i will that will be nice 
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August 11, 2020, 11:13:14 AM
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its like that
Your image isn't working.

so what kind of wallet use 6 word passphrase ?
I can help you better if you answer those questions:
how did you make/get it?
If the words aren't standard words, it might be a brain wallet.

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Did you check out those word lists yet ?
Both can have a 6 word Mnemonic.
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its like that
Your image isn't working.

so what kind of wallet use 6 word passphrase ?
I can help you better if you answer those questions:
how did you make/get it?
If the words aren't standard words, it might be a brain wallet.

i found it in old  2014 file with more than 100 btc address seed
the address have from 10btc to .01btc
ii search the net to find what kind of wallet use 6 seeds for bitcoin but did not get any answer coz my English and experience in  crypto is almost zero

it look like this

https://ibb.co/nw0q1xd
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ii search the net to find what kind of wallet use 6 seeds for bitcoin but did not get any answer coz my English and experience in  crypto is almost zero

it look like this

https://ibb.co/nw0q1xd

The point is that we also do not know ;-)
There are 2 possibilities:
1) What is called 'passphrase' is a 6 words seed - it is possible, but you must verify it yourself; I told you how to do it - You will have to convert it to format 'importable' by current wallets.
2) "Passphrase" is a sentence used to generate 'brainwallet' - which means that it could be any words, any sentence -> and it is converted into private key.

What you were asked before is to check what are the 'words' in passphrase - is it a sentence in English, or just a 6 words? Someone mentioned a list of allowed words:
https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0039/english.txt
Are your words on the list or there are others?

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ii search the net to find what kind of wallet use 6 seeds for bitcoin but did not get any answer coz my English and experience in  crypto is almost zero

it look like this

https://ibb.co/nw0q1xd

The point is that we also do not know ;-)
There are 2 possibilities:
1) What is called 'passphrase' is a 6 words seed - it is possible, but you must verify it yourself; I told you how to do it - You will have to convert it to format 'importable' by current wallets.
2) "Passphrase" is a sentence used to generate 'brainwallet' - which means that it could be any words, any sentence -> and it is converted into private key.

What you were asked before is to check what are the 'words' in passphrase - is it a sentence in English, or just a 6 words? Someone mentioned a list of allowed words:
https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0039/english.txt
Are your words on the list or there are others?



some word is not in the list ?
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https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0039/english.txt
Are your words on the list or there are others?

some word is not in the list ?


If you confirm that words are not from the list, that it is more complicated.
What you may try, is to use is to generate 'brainwallet':
https://brainwalletx.github.io/
If you use your sentence on this page, do you receive expected address (in compressed or uncompressed mode)?
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Bip39 is BASE2048.
Electrum used BASE1626 up to 2015.
You can use both protocols with a 6 word mnemonic but it's not recommended since its only 64Bit security.
Did you also check that word list ?
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https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0039/english.txt
Are your words on the list or there are others?

some word is not in the list ?


If you confirm that words are not from the list, that it is more complicated.
What you may try, is to use is to generate 'brainwallet':
https://brainwalletx.github.io/
If you use your sentence on this page, do you receive expected address (in compressed or uncompressed mode)?


no i get different address  ?
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no i get different address  ?

But what about https://iancoleman.io/bip39/ ?
If you type your words into 'BIP39 Mnemonic' field, do you receive any result or message 'invalid mnemonic'?
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no i get different address  ?

But what about https://iancoleman.io/bip39/ ?
If you type your words into 'BIP39 Mnemonic' field, do you receive any result or message 'invalid mnemonic'?

i get many address with privatekey  start with litter L and K  but how to find what adrress  that have bitcoin ?
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no i get different address  ?

But what about https://iancoleman.io/bip39/ ?
If you type your words into 'BIP39 Mnemonic' field, do you receive any result or message 'invalid mnemonic'?

i get many address with privatekey  start with litter L and K  but how to find what adrress  that have bitcoin ?

You should see address and the corresponding key... https://ibb.co/C1hp9Bg
If you see addresses, it means your words are correct. Does any of addresses (maybe in different tab) looks like one in the file?
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no i get different address  ?

But what about https://iancoleman.io/bip39/ ?
If you type your words into 'BIP39 Mnemonic' field, do you receive any result or message 'invalid mnemonic'?

i get many address with privatekey  start with litter L and K  but how to find what adrress  that have bitcoin ?

You should see address and the corresponding key... https://ibb.co/C1hp9Bg
If you see addresses, it means your words are correct. Does any of addresses (maybe in different tab) looks like one in the file?


yes it look like that

https://ibb.co/W6pbnfT
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no i get different address  ?

But what about https://iancoleman.io/bip39/ ?
If you type your words into 'BIP39 Mnemonic' field, do you receive any result or message 'invalid mnemonic'?

i get many address with privatekey  start with litter L and K  but how to find what adrress  that have bitcoin ?

You should see address and the corresponding key... https://ibb.co/C1hp9Bg
If you see addresses, it means your words are correct. Does any of addresses (maybe in different tab) looks like one in the file?


yes it look like that

https://ibb.co/W6pbnfT

OK, but do you see any of your addresses?
In tab BIP32 or BIP44? With and without "Use hardened addresses" checkbox?
There is also a chance that your addresses are not compressed, this is something else. But first check existing possibilities.
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no i get different address  ?

But what about https://iancoleman.io/bip39/ ?
If you type your words into 'BIP39 Mnemonic' field, do you receive any result or message 'invalid mnemonic'?

i get many address with privatekey  start with litter L and K  but how to find what adrress  that have bitcoin ?

You should see address and the corresponding key... https://ibb.co/C1hp9Bg
If you see addresses, it means your words are correct. Does any of addresses (maybe in different tab) looks like one in the file?


yes it look like that

https://ibb.co/W6pbnfT

OK, but do you see any of your addresses?
In tab BIP32 or BIP44? With and without "Use hardened addresses" checkbox?
There is also a chance that your addresses are not compressed, this is something else. But first check existing possibilities.

 i did not find the address ans some i have only 6 seeds with no address
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no i get different address  ?

But what about https://iancoleman.io/bip39/ ?
If you type your words into 'BIP39 Mnemonic' field, do you receive any result or message 'invalid mnemonic'?

i get many address with privatekey  start with litter L and K  but how to find what adrress  that have bitcoin ?

You should see address and the corresponding key... https://ibb.co/C1hp9Bg
If you see addresses, it means your words are correct. Does any of addresses (maybe in different tab) looks like one in the file?


yes it look like that

https://ibb.co/W6pbnfT

OK, but do you see any of your addresses?
In tab BIP32 or BIP44? With and without "Use hardened addresses" checkbox?
There is also a chance that your addresses are not compressed, this is something else. But first check existing possibilities.

 i did not find the address ans some i have only 6 seeds with no address


I do not know... If you have any seed & address without balance, maybe just publish here the seed, and then we will try to find the way to get the address, then you will be able to use the method for the rest of seeds.
All above is a bit chaotic.





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do you know any way that i can check balance of many btc address ? like 10 address not like blockchain explorer check only one address in time  ?

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no i get different address  ?

But what about https://iancoleman.io/bip39/ ?
If you type your words into 'BIP39 Mnemonic' field, do you receive any result or message 'invalid mnemonic'?

i get many address with privatekey  start with litter L and K  but how to find what adrress  that have bitcoin ?

You should see address and the corresponding key... https://ibb.co/C1hp9Bg
If you see addresses, it means your words are correct. Does any of addresses (maybe in different tab) looks like one in the file?


yes it look like that

https://ibb.co/W6pbnfT

OK, but do you see any of your addresses?
In tab BIP32 or BIP44? With and without "Use hardened addresses" checkbox?
There is also a chance that your addresses are not compressed, this is something else. But first check existing possibilities.

 i did not find the address ans some i have only 6 seeds with no address


I do not know... If you have any seed & address without balance, maybe just publish here the seed, and then we will try to find the way to get the address, then you will be able to use the method for the rest of seeds.
All above is a bit chaotic.



most have from 100 to .01 btc
i need to check all address and its more than 100 wallet of 6 word seed
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do you know any way that i can check balance of many btc address ? like 10 address not like blockchain explorer check only one address in time  ?



You may try to use blockchain api and pass several addresses separated by comma ',' -> you will receive sum of balances:

https://blockchain.info/q/addressbalance/18zXdRJiosTZZ3cmUG8fjMewwpYG1FuDww,1F1tAaz5x1HUXrCNLbtMDqcw6o5GNn4xqX,33wvNiUkXJAJ85e4yXJxJVWtsKqWDsDFK4

You may also download list of all addresses with balance and check manually on your computer:
https://gz.blockchair.com/bitcoin/addresses/blockchair_bitcoin_addresses_latest.tsv.gz
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will take time for me to check all the address from the seeds ?
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will take time for me to check all the address from the seeds ?

Depends on method ;-)

Send me the list of addresses or publish here, we will try to get the balances quickly.
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i wont send any list  but i will give who help me 10% of what i find in all wallet
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i wont send any list  but i will give who help me 10% of what i find in all wallet

So the best would be check manually one by one... quite boring but with 100 addresses it will take around 10 minutes, maybe 15...

If addresses are old, then probably you have also some other 'coins', check here:
http://www.findmycoins.ninja/
for 18zXdRJiosTZZ3cmUG8fjMewwpYG1FuDww:
5135.3501
Mixed coins found
$47+
Worth in USD
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i wont send any list  but i will give who help me 10% of what i find in all wallet

So the best would be check manually one by one... quite boring but with 100 addresses it will take around 10 minutes, maybe 15...

If addresses are old, then probably you have also some other 'coins', check here:
http://www.findmycoins.ninja/
for 18zXdRJiosTZZ3cmUG8fjMewwpYG1FuDww:
5135.3501
Mixed coins found
$47+
Worth in USD

worth more with the btc and the other address have 10btc with bitcoin cash
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i found it in old  2014 file with more than 100 btc address seed
Again: how did you get the file?

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the address have from 10btc to .01btc
Did you buy any chance buy the file? If you did, you got scammed!

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Did you blank out the redeem QR-code or was there nothing there?

the QR show only the btc address thats the problem and only with 6 word key to redeem and collect .
Did you check the QR-code that says "redeem"?

You may also download list of all addresses with balance and check manually on your computer:
https://gz.blockchair.com/bitcoin/addresses/blockchair_bitcoin_addresses_latest.tsv.gz
Mine is much faster to download: List of all Bitcoin addresses with a balance.

i wont send any list  but i will give who help me 10% of what i find in all wallet
I've seen many similar "offers" recently.

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Then I would try to use the page I mentioned and see if any combination of bip version gives the expected address.

Maybe try download old version of Electrum, released before 2014?
From the official site electrum.org or maybe git (but I am not sure about it).
https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum/releases?after=1.9
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Then I would try to use the page I mentioned and see if any combination of bip version gives the expected address.

Maybe try download old version of Electrum, released before 2014?
From the official site electrum.org or maybe git (but I am not sure about it).
https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum/releases?after=1.9


The latest electrum still supports the older mnemonics.
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i found it in old  2014 file with more than 100 btc address seed
Again: how did you get the file?

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the address have from 10btc to .01btc
Did you buy any chance buy the file? If you did, you got scammed!

Quote
Did you blank out the redeem QR-code or was there nothing there?

the QR show only the btc address thats the problem and only with 6 word key to redeem and collect .
Did you check the QR-code that says "redeem"?

You may also download list of all addresses with balance and check manually on your computer:
https://gz.blockchair.com/bitcoin/addresses/blockchair_bitcoin_addresses_latest.tsv.gz
Mine is much faster to download: List of all Bitcoin addresses with a balance.

i wont send any list  but i will give who help me 10% of what i find in all wallet
I've seen many similar "offers" recently.

i find all the files in old hard disk
i foind many many addess of btc from 2014
and i found like more than 100 6 word called Passphrase
i found like more than 50 6 word called frases
i found 12 word called seeds

and many many many of adult vedio and pic

are you ok know Smiley
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i find all the files in old hard disk
i foind many many addess of btc from 2014
and i found like more than 100 6 word called Passphrase
i found like more than 50 6 word called frases
i found 12 word called seeds

and many many many of adult vedio and pic

are you ok know Smiley

Then maybe start with what is called 'seeds' and see if it makes any sense. 12 words seeds look better than '6 word passphrase'.
"6 word called frases" sounds like a source for brainwallet.
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If you need a fast way to check all the addresses, just copy/paste them into a new Electrum "watching-only" wallet ("File" -> "New/Restore" -> "Import Bitcoin addresses or private keys")... it'll find any/all transactions relating to those addresses and you'll be able to see which ones still have a balance.

NOTE:
- don't try and use the 6 word passphrases, that won't work in Electrum... just copy/paste the addresses. At least that way you'll see whether or not there is actually anything to find Tongue


I'm not aware of ANY wallets that used a 6 word passphrase... and because these 6 word phrases seem to be attached to one specific address, I don't think they are a true "seed mnemonic" for an HD/BIP39 wallet, but as mentioned earlier... I'd think they were some sort of "brain wallet"... or maybe some other custom system used to create private keys from words???


Given that the address from your screenshot: 1A9Tp3JjDvyQUtyQYLdDdCqMgK12sVZ238 is empty and has never actually been used, would you be willing to provide the 6 word passphrase for this address so people could try and figure out the system used? Huh or is it the same passphrase for ALL the addresses? Huh

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If you need a fast way to check all the addresses, just copy/paste them into a new Electrum "watching-only" wallet ("File" -> "New/Restore" -> "Import Bitcoin addresses or private keys")... it'll find any/all transactions relating to those addresses and you'll be able to see which ones still have a balance.

NOTE:
- don't try and use the 6 word passphrases, that won't work in Electrum... just copy/paste the addresses. At least that way you'll see whether or not there is actually anything to find Tongue


I'm not aware of ANY wallets that used a 6 word passphrase... and because these 6 word phrases seem to be attached to one specific address, I don't think they are a true "seed mnemonic" for an HD/BIP39 wallet, but as mentioned earlier... I'd think they were some sort of "brain wallet"... or maybe some other custom system used to create private keys from words???


Given that the address from your screenshot: 1A9Tp3JjDvyQUtyQYLdDdCqMgK12sVZ238 is empty and has never actually been used, would you be willing to provide the 6 word passphrase for this address so people could try and figure out the system used? Huh or is it the same passphrase for ALL the addresses? Huh

passphrase :

child shout iron pair row aunt
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If you need a fast way to check all the addresses, just copy/paste them into a new Electrum "watching-only" wallet ("File" -> "New/Restore" -> "Import Bitcoin addresses or private keys")... it'll find any/all transactions relating to those addresses and you'll be able to see which ones still have a balance.

NOTE:
- don't try and use the 6 word passphrases, that won't work in Electrum... just copy/paste the addresses. At least that way you'll see whether or not there is actually anything to find Tongue


I'm not aware of ANY wallets that used a 6 word passphrase... and because these 6 word phrases seem to be attached to one specific address, I don't think they are a true "seed mnemonic" for an HD/BIP39 wallet, but as mentioned earlier... I'd think they were some sort of "brain wallet"... or maybe some other custom system used to create private keys from words???


Given that the address from your screenshot: 1A9Tp3JjDvyQUtyQYLdDdCqMgK12sVZ238 is empty and has never actually been used, would you be willing to provide the 6 word passphrase for this address so people could try and figure out the system used? Huh or is it the same passphrase for ALL the addresses? Huh

and the 12 seed not working in elctrum
it give me wrong address  like this one
bc1qc4fdk5re3r08msaelnndnywnh9pec5p5tqh9kv
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If you need a fast way to check all the addresses, just copy/paste them into a new Electrum "watching-only" wallet ("File" -> "New/Restore" -> "Import Bitcoin addresses or private keys")... it'll find any/all transactions relating to those addresses and you'll be able to see which ones still have a balance.

NOTE:
- don't try and use the 6 word passphrases, that won't work in Electrum... just copy/paste the addresses. At least that way you'll see whether or not there is actually anything to find Tongue


I'm not aware of ANY wallets that used a 6 word passphrase... and because these 6 word phrases seem to be attached to one specific address, I don't think they are a true "seed mnemonic" for an HD/BIP39 wallet, but as mentioned earlier... I'd think they were some sort of "brain wallet"... or maybe some other custom system used to create private keys from words???


Given that the address from your screenshot: 1A9Tp3JjDvyQUtyQYLdDdCqMgK12sVZ238 is empty and has never actually been used, would you be willing to provide the 6 word passphrase for this address so people could try and figure out the system used? Huh or is it the same passphrase for ALL the addresses? Huh

and the 12 seed not working in elctrum
it give me wrong address  like this one
bc1qc4fdk5re3r08msaelnndnywnh9pec5p5tqh9kv

You must change the type of address to 'legacy', not segwit.
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If you need a fast way to check all the addresses, just copy/paste them into a new Electrum "watching-only" wallet ("File" -> "New/Restore" -> "Import Bitcoin addresses or private keys")... it'll find any/all transactions relating to those addresses and you'll be able to see which ones still have a balance.

NOTE:
- don't try and use the 6 word passphrases, that won't work in Electrum... just copy/paste the addresses. At least that way you'll see whether or not there is actually anything to find Tongue


I'm not aware of ANY wallets that used a 6 word passphrase... and because these 6 word phrases seem to be attached to one specific address, I don't think they are a true "seed mnemonic" for an HD/BIP39 wallet, but as mentioned earlier... I'd think they were some sort of "brain wallet"... or maybe some other custom system used to create private keys from words???


Given that the address from your screenshot: 1A9Tp3JjDvyQUtyQYLdDdCqMgK12sVZ238 is empty and has never actually been used, would you be willing to provide the 6 word passphrase for this address so people could try and figure out the system used? Huh or is it the same passphrase for ALL the addresses? Huh

and the 12 seed not working in elctrum
it give me wrong address  like this one
bc1qc4fdk5re3r08msaelnndnywnh9pec5p5tqh9kv

You must change the type of address to 'legacy', not segwit.

the address have .1 btc but in electrum have zero ?
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If you need a fast way to check all the addresses, just copy/paste them into a new Electrum "watching-only" wallet ("File" -> "New/Restore" -> "Import Bitcoin addresses or private keys")... it'll find any/all transactions relating to those addresses and you'll be able to see which ones still have a balance.

NOTE:
- don't try and use the 6 word passphrases, that won't work in Electrum... just copy/paste the addresses. At least that way you'll see whether or not there is actually anything to find Tongue


I'm not aware of ANY wallets that used a 6 word passphrase... and because these 6 word phrases seem to be attached to one specific address, I don't think they are a true "seed mnemonic" for an HD/BIP39 wallet, but as mentioned earlier... I'd think they were some sort of "brain wallet"... or maybe some other custom system used to create private keys from words???


Given that the address from your screenshot: 1A9Tp3JjDvyQUtyQYLdDdCqMgK12sVZ238 is empty and has never actually been used, would you be willing to provide the 6 word passphrase for this address so people could try and figure out the system used? Huh or is it the same passphrase for ALL the addresses? Huh

and the 12 seed not working in elctrum
it give me wrong address  like this one
bc1qc4fdk5re3r08msaelnndnywnh9pec5p5tqh9kv

You must change the type of address to 'legacy', not segwit.

the address have .1 btc but in electrum have zero ?

If you use this seed on iancoleman page, do you receive in the table below your expected address and address from electrum?
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If you need a fast way to check all the addresses, just copy/paste them into a new Electrum "watching-only" wallet ("File" -> "New/Restore" -> "Import Bitcoin addresses or private keys")... it'll find any/all transactions relating to those addresses and you'll be able to see which ones still have a balance.

NOTE:
- don't try and use the 6 word passphrases, that won't work in Electrum... just copy/paste the addresses. At least that way you'll see whether or not there is actually anything to find Tongue


I'm not aware of ANY wallets that used a 6 word passphrase... and because these 6 word phrases seem to be attached to one specific address, I don't think they are a true "seed mnemonic" for an HD/BIP39 wallet, but as mentioned earlier... I'd think they were some sort of "brain wallet"... or maybe some other custom system used to create private keys from words???


Given that the address from your screenshot: 1A9Tp3JjDvyQUtyQYLdDdCqMgK12sVZ238 is empty and has never actually been used, would you be willing to provide the 6 word passphrase for this address so people could try and figure out the system used? Huh or is it the same passphrase for ALL the addresses? Huh

and the 12 seed not working in elctrum
it give me wrong address  like this one
bc1qc4fdk5re3r08msaelnndnywnh9pec5p5tqh9kv

You must change the type of address to 'legacy', not segwit.

the address have .1 btc but in electrum have zero ?

start again as per this guide: https://bitcoinelectrum.com/restoring-your-standard-wallet-from-seed/

pay attention to the what it says next to the options button in step 4. if it doesn't let you proceed then you can try checking bip39 under options. after you do that it should show bip39 checksum ok. if it doesn't then you have a seed that is neither electrum nor bip39 and you can't use it with electrum.

then in step 5 select legacy as the script type. try the default bip44 derivation path and if that doesn't work then try the one for multibit hd:

https://bitcoinelectrum.com/restoring-your-multibithd-wallet-in-electrum/



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Even if the checksum does not validate to true the seed can still be valid this is a requirement in the protocol.

As far as i can see the 6 word phrase should be used as the salt or password in conjunction with the 12 word Mnemonic.
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passphrase :

child shout iron pair row aunt
Interesting... "shout" is not on the BIP39 wordlist, so that rules out these 6 word "passphrases" as being a BIP39 mnemonic of some description. Electrum also used 12 words, not 6... and "row" is not in BIP39 or either the "old" or the "new" Electrum lists... Undecided Huh

I tried different combinations for the "standard" SHA256-type Brainwallet:
child shout iron pair row aunt
Child Shout Iron Pair Row Aunt
CHILD SHOUT IRON PAIR ROW AUNT

and none of them come back to address: 1A9Tp3JjDvyQUtyQYLdDdCqMgK12sVZ238

Tis indeed a bit of a puzzle... Undecided Huh


Does the document that contains this address and 6 word passphrase combination, also have a "global" 12 word mnemonic attached to it? Huh Or are the 12 word mnemonics that you have in a completely different document with different addresses? Huh If there is a 12 word mnemonic, and then the individual addresses have the 6 word passphrase, it's possible that the BASE16 is correct and the 6 word passphrases are "BIP39 passphrases" and you both the 12 word mnemonic + 6 word passphrase to derive the correct private key/address.


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Is it possible that there is one main seed and then depending on password phrases it is possible to generate different target addresses?
Maybe these extra 6 words are 'custom own extra words' in electrum, in addition to 12 official words?
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Is it possible that there is one main seed and then depending on password phrases it is possible to generate different target addresses?
Maybe these extra 6 words are 'custom own extra words' in electrum, in addition to 12 official words?

This depends on the used protocol.
At this point it can be several things, but there are also things that can be excluded due to the nature of the provided data so far.

We do not know anything about the compatibility of the words from the mnemonics to the available standard procedures so it is not possible to pin point one exact mechanism at this point in time.
Meaning it's a guessing game still.

It is in the OP's best interest to check the words from the available mnemonics to the suggested word lists to see if this can reveal inclusion or exclusion regarding the identification of the necessary processing mechanism.
Once that has been done its only a matter of inputs and outputs, but without it, it's like trying to shoot a sitting duck, in the dark. Smiley
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passphrase :

child shout iron pair row aunt
Interesting... "shout" is not on the BIP39 wordlist, so that rules out these 6 word "passphrases" as being a BIP39 mnemonic of some description. Electrum also used 12 words, not 6... and "row" is not in BIP39 or either the "old" or the "new" Electrum lists... Undecided Huh

I tried different combinations for the "standard" SHA256-type Brainwallet:
child shout iron pair row aunt
Child Shout Iron Pair Row Aunt
CHILD SHOUT IRON PAIR ROW AUNT

and none of them come back to address: 1A9Tp3JjDvyQUtyQYLdDdCqMgK12sVZ238

Tis indeed a bit of a puzzle... Undecided Huh


Does the document that contains this address and 6 word passphrase combination, also have a "global" 12 word mnemonic attached to it? Huh Or are the 12 word mnemonics that you have in a completely different document with different addresses? Huh If there is a 12 word mnemonic, and then the individual addresses have the 6 word passphrase, it's possible that the BASE16 is correct and the 6 word passphrases are "BIP39 passphrases" and you both the 12 word mnemonic + 6 word passphrase to derive the correct private key/address.



the 12 seed in different  txt file
and its only say btc seed
 
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Did you try to run it through the PBKDF2 ?
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Did you try to run it through the PBKDF2 ?
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what is PBKDF2 ?
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what is the different between wallet.dat  and virgin_wallet.dat and full_wallet.dat ?
how do you know the address of that wallet without downloading all bitcoin core ?
is there away to know what kind of wallet.dat is  becouse i see etherum wallet and peercoin wallet and bitcoin-wallet-backup-2015-10-10 and Darkcoin-wallet-keys-2014-07-22
and Dash-wallet-backup-2015-08-23 and walletFTC ?
what is that ?



all files ?


 
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any one can solv that i will give him 10% of what i find in all wallet
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what is the different between wallet.dat  and virgin_wallet.dat and full_wallet.dat ?
Bitcoin Core uses wallet.dat by default, the other wallets are probably renamed (by the user). I've collected many different filenames over the years too.

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how do you know the address of that wallet without downloading all bitcoin core ?
It's easiest to download Bitcoin Core, but you don't need to download the 300+ GB blockchain.
After loading the wallet, click Help > Debug window > Console > Enter "listaddressgroupings".

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is there away to know what kind of wallet.dat is  becouse i see etherum wallet and peercoin wallet
Wallet.dat belongs to Bitcoin Core, but it can be an altcoin (like Peercoin).

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bitcoin-wallet-backup-2015-10-10
This is created by Bitcoin Wallet on Android. Use this app to restore your backup.

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Darkcoin-wallet-keys-2014-07-22
Dash-wallet-backup-2015-08-23
These sounds like the above, but for an altcoin again.

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walletFTC ?
Feathercoin.

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how do you know the address of that wallet without downloading all bitcoin core ?
  

You do not need to download anything to check addresses, you may just open filen in Bitcoin Core and then you should see addresses and transactions.
In fact, you may even see addresses if you open .dat file in text editor and look for phrase 'name', which should be followed by an address (but it is very simple and not really trustworthy method).
In fact, you should use Bitcoin Core and then in the console use command 'dumpprivkey' to see if you have private key for the given address and if you may spend the balance.
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Even if the checksum does not validate to true the seed can still be valid this is a requirement in the protocol.

As far as i can see the 6 word phrase should be used as the salt or password in conjunction with the 12 word Mnemonic.

the bitcoin protocol has nothing to do with seed phrases. a wallet wouldn't generate an invalid bip39 seed.

what is the different between wallet.dat  and virgin_wallet.dat and full_wallet.dat ?
how do you know the address of that wallet without downloading all bitcoin core ?
is there away to know what kind of wallet.dat is  becouse i see etherum wallet and peercoin wallet and bitcoin-wallet-backup-2015-10-10 and Darkcoin-wallet-keys-2014-07-22
and Dash-wallet-backup-2015-08-23 and walletFTC ?
what is that ?



all files ?


 

how about you tackle one thing at a time? try restoring from the 12 word seeds using electrum like i said.
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the bitcoin protocol has nothing to do with seed phrases. a wallet wouldn't generate an invalid bip39 seed.

I was talking specifically about the bip39 protocol.
And this thread deals with pass phrases and mnemonics in general.
I think the first thing OP tried doing was to import it into electrum.
From his last post i realized this is about a lot of mixed (alt)coins and that makes it even harder to solve.
Good luck.
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Even if the checksum does not validate to true the seed can still be valid this is a requirement in the protocol.

As far as i can see the 6 word phrase should be used as the salt or password in conjunction with the 12 word Mnemonic.

the bitcoin protocol has nothing to do with seed phrases. a wallet wouldn't generate an invalid bip39 seed.

what is the different between wallet.dat  and virgin_wallet.dat and full_wallet.dat ?
how do you know the address of that wallet without downloading all bitcoin core ?
is there away to know what kind of wallet.dat is  becouse i see etherum wallet and peercoin wallet and bitcoin-wallet-backup-2015-10-10 and Darkcoin-wallet-keys-2014-07-22
and Dash-wallet-backup-2015-08-23 and walletFTC ?
what is that ?



all files ?


 

how about you tackle one thing at a time? try restoring from the 12 word seeds using electrum like i said.



already recover 35.34 btc from 12 word seeds
but what in the 6 word seeds is more . i have only some address have 100btc and .1btc
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i will give who help me 10% of what i find in all wallet
already recover 35.34 btc from 12 word seeds
So who's getting 3.534 BTC?

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blockchain.com used 6 words recovery phrases for old wallets, but I am not sure about the dictionary.

https://login.blockchain.com/wallet/recover-wallet
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i will give who help me 10% of what i find in all wallet
already recover 35.34 btc from 12 word seeds
So who's getting 3.534 BTC?

I guess... no one.
He will just disappear for another 3 years or say something like 'I did it myself' etc. They want to share their BTC as long as they cannot reach them.
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i will give who help me 10% of what i find in all wallet
already recover 35.34 btc from 12 word seeds
So who's getting 3.534 BTC?

no one and it was my own work

the 10% was for 6 word seeds and the wallet.dat
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i will give who help me 10% of what i find in all wallet
already recover 35.34 btc from 12 word seeds
So who's getting 3.534 BTC?
I guess... no one.
He will just disappear for another 3 years or say something like 'I did it myself' etc. They want to share their BTC as long as they cannot reach them.

and few minutes later....

it was my own work

of course... then why did you ask questions which showed that you know nothing?

and the 12 seed not working in elctrum
it give me wrong address  like this one
bc1qc4fdk5re3r08msaelnndnywnh9pec5p5tqh9kv
You must change the type of address to 'legacy', not segwit.


You could say "ok, I will not give 10% but 2%; I appreciate your help, let's work with the rest of seeds/wallets I have".
I call it disgrace.
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the 10% was for 6 word seeds and the wallet.dat
I'd be more than happy to take a look at the wallet.dat Smiley Or your Forkcoins for that matter (and I only ask 10% for claiming Forkcoins) Cheesy

You could say "ok, I will not give 10% but 2%; I appreciate your help, let's work with the rest of seeds/wallets I have".
I call it disgrace.
I call it: "don't worry about it", I'm probably not the only one who never expect anything out of helping users online, especially when they're new and make rediculously high promises.

I did get a 0.2 BTC tip years ago, months after helping someone. It took me quite a while to find out where it came from, so it was a nice surprise.

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the 10% was for 6 word seeds and the wallet.dat
I'd be more than happy to take a look at the wallet.dat Smiley Or your Forkcoins for that matter (and I only ask 10% for claiming Forkcoins) Cheesy

Yes, let's see the 3rd part of his treasure...

You could say "ok, I will not give 10% but 2%; I appreciate your help, let's work with the rest of seeds/wallets I have".
I call it disgrace.
I call it: "don't worry about it", I'm probably not the only one who never expect anything out of helping users online, especially when they're new and make rediculously high promises.
"Don't make a promise if you don't intend to keep your promise."
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the 10% was for 6 word seeds and the wallet.dat
I'd be more than happy to take a look at the wallet.dat Smiley Or your Forkcoins for that matter (and I only ask 10% for claiming Forkcoins) Cheesy

You could say "ok, I will not give 10% but 2%; I appreciate your help, let's work with the rest of seeds/wallets I have".
I call it disgrace.
I call it: "don't worry about it", I'm probably not the only one who never expect anything out of helping users online, especially when they're new and make rediculously high promises.

I did get a 0.2 BTC tip years ago, months after helping someone. It took me quite a while to find out where it came from, so it was a nice surprise.

the 12 word seeds was for blockchain wallet not electrum that i found by downloading the app in my iphone to transfer the 3btc i found .

but the 6 seed that i ask help for and say 10% for who help did not get anything from it .

and the wallet.dat did not get anything from it .

i had many many private msg to help me but i dont trust anyone sorry for that .

if you can help and i wish you know how .
lets start from the 6 seeds and one by one.
you show me how and you will get 10% one by one
you seems knows how that work
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the 10% was for 6 word seeds and the wallet.dat
I'd be more than happy to take a look at the wallet.dat Smiley Or your Forkcoins for that matter (and I only ask 10% for claiming Forkcoins) Cheesy

You could say "ok, I will not give 10% but 2%; I appreciate your help, let's work with the rest of seeds/wallets I have".
I call it disgrace.
I call it: "don't worry about it", I'm probably not the only one who never expect anything out of helping users online, especially when they're new and make rediculously high promises.

I did get a 0.2 BTC tip years ago, months after helping someone. It took me quite a while to find out where it came from, so it was a nice surprise.

if you have telegram i can show you the pic if you want 
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Do you have any information which could be used as a 'salt' on this page?
https://brainwallet.io/
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if you can help and i wish you know how .
lets start from the 6 seeds and one by one.
you show me how and you will get 10% one by one
you seems knows how that work
I haven't found anything based no the 6 word sample seed you posted.

if you have telegram i can show you the pic if you want
I barely use Telegram, and I don't trust it at all. So a PM here is better, or email if you want.

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Do you have any information which could be used as a 'salt' on this page?
https://brainwallet.io/
In a similar line of thinking... is there any sort of "email" that might be associated with these 6 word passphrases that you could try using with Warp Wallet (https://keybase.io/warp)? Huh

I tried the 6 word phrase that you gave earlier (child shout iron pair row aunt), but it didn't generate the correct address:


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Do you have any information which could be used as a 'salt' on this page?
https://brainwallet.io/
In a similar line of thinking... is there any sort of "email" that might be associated with these 6 word passphrases that you could try using with Warp Wallet (https://keybase.io/warp)? Huh

Yes, I have checked WARP too, some other 'brain wallet generator pages' too. I think someone used seed known to him (email, birth date, name, city) and then just distinguished addresses by passphrase.

Kuw: could you post again screenshot of the file? 2 images you send in the past are now removed. Do not you see anything like a 'seed' 'salt' 'root' I do not know --- something common to all the addresses?
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first


what i have same this seeds

https://ibb.co/HKyBWHC


1 only collect in 2017
2 are empty
1 have .1

second

i have   6 seeds txt file did not know hot to get adrress or private key or how to collect , and file called frases3

https://ibb.co/BCjrLTJ

and last

12 seeds not working with blockchain or electrum

https://ibb.co/NSHLCMJ


the only one i collect is 12 seeds file called blockchin than worked in blockchain wallet app


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There is something I do not understand... Aren't 12 word seed split into 2?
Or you send us wrong screenshots
in both files you have this same content:
foot ears india flow fell .....
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There is something I do not understand... Aren't 12 word seed split into 2?
Or you send us wrong screenshots
in both files you have this same content:
foot ears india flow fell .....


yes sir its the same lol i did  not see that

so i have already only 12 word seeds but its cut into two txt file
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but the 6 word is longer than the 12 word and there is difrent in the last word of 6 seeds  ?
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and its missed up  like

6 word from first line and the other from other lines or did not show in both file ?
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You may try some of these (some old) wallets - read explanation how it works:
https://walletsrecovery.org/

I think some people already had similar issue, there is still a chance the seeds are for blockchain:
https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/63697/why-is-this-12-word-mnemonic-deemed-invalid-by-multiple-wallets

Did you try Exodus?
https://support.exodus.io/article/42-how-do-i-restore-from-my-secret-12-word-phrase

https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/78620/wallets-with-bip44-support

BTW, if you know address, you my try to use this tool, to see if seed is 'broken' and could be repaired:
https://github.com/gurnec/btcrecover/blob/master/docs/Seedrecover_Quick_Start_Guide.md

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You may try some of these (some old) wallets - read explanation how it works:
https://walletsrecovery.org/

I think some people already had similar issue, there is still a chance the seeds are for blockchain:
https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/63697/why-is-this-12-word-mnemonic-deemed-invalid-by-multiple-wallets

Did you try Exodus?
https://support.exodus.io/article/42-how-do-i-restore-from-my-secret-12-word-phrase

https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/78620/wallets-with-bip44-support

BTW, if you know address, you my try to use this tool, to see if seed is 'broken' and could be repaired:
https://github.com/gurnec/btcrecover/blob/master/docs/Seedrecover_Quick_Start_Guide.md



i dont know how to use python

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and i use only the app not the web for blockchain

i dont know how to and where i can use the seeds in the web wallet ?
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i try exodus but it say wrong seeds
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and i use only the app not the web for blockchain

i dont know how to and where i can use the seeds in the web wallet ?



https://login.blockchain.com/#/recover

and I think this is for old seeds: https://login.blockchain.com/wallet/forgot-password

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so i have already only 12 word seeds but its cut into two txt file
It would appear that it was either a poor attempt at trying to "secure" the 12 word seeds by cutting them in half and storing the halves separately... or perhaps they were copy/pasted badly out of a spreadsheet or off a website in groups of 6 rather than all 12 at once? Huh


but the 6 word is longer than the 12 word and there is difrent in the last word of 6 seeds  ?
not sure exactly what you mean by this... do you mean that the number of lines in 6 word file is longer than 12 word file? I would expect that it should be twice as long Wink

Are you saying that some of the words in the 6 word seeds, aren't the same as in a 12 word seed?

for instance:
6 word: foot ears india flow fell row
12 word: foot ears india flow fell hungry grow great level pill outer major

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so i have already only 12 word seeds but its cut into two txt file
It would appear that it was either a poor attempt at trying to "secure" the 12 word seeds by cutting them in half and storing the halves separately... or perhaps they were copy/pasted badly out of a spreadsheet or off a website in groups of 6 rather than all 12 at once? Huh


but the 6 word is longer than the 12 word and there is difrent in the last word of 6 seeds  ?
not sure exactly what you mean by this... do you mean that the number of lines in 6 word file is longer than 12 word file? I would expect that it should be twice as long Wink

Are you saying that some of the words in the 6 word seeds, aren't the same as in a 12 word seed?

for instance:
6 word: foot ears india flow fell row
12 word: foot ears india flow fell hungry grow great level pill outer major

6 word is : foot ears india flow fell arm
12 word is : foot ears india flow fell arm mm 655 ache yam zw hosco

not the same  only some 6 word starts same 12 word
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and i use only the app not the web for blockchain

i dont know how to and where i can use the seeds in the web wallet ?



https://login.blockchain.com/#/recover

and I think this is for old seeds: https://login.blockchain.com/wallet/forgot-password



it say  :  Invalid passphrase
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19RcBc6c1WAaB5eMkwj2TkaNmRJF21DGr7
171qh1dY16KMj4NtXPFMhzJujSmUsSwDrV
1DaN5JeGUHz5qwNPvnX3D1GqbEQa9Bs3RC
1D5ccivNmhygv6tN9safiX9WCvZzWuFfSZ
1ByrvtzjSTz4coRrvhFSNVucymZTAnko7J
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14A3JMa8jk5SWK7sVaY1XonA2A3Mz3jRrc
1ExthKrE9msUEtf9Nos1M9secxQBqWVPSW
1MFmtnGmoHniXt6cevXMY9GJd4QVaDzchT
16cknp9V3LhjnP8T1BsSXSmHvEyGJT5fk9


thats only the address and its total of more than 310 address
most of them have .1 or .2 btc

comes with ID number
and more say 10btc as a pic not txt

https://ibb.co/bmVtnF3

and  more
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August 20, 2020, 01:54:32 PM
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Don't waste your time on the 6 word passphrases. They are not seeds.
Those are only a blockchain.info wallet passphrases, but you need the decrypted private key. Let me know if you find any keys starting with '6P'. If you have them I might be able to help.

Can you please post at least one of those addresses you have access the 35BTCs already? Just one address, nothing more...

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Don't waste your time on the 6 word passphrases. They are not seeds.
Those are only a blockchain.info wallet passphrases, but you need the decrypted private key. Let me know if you find any keys starting with '6P'. If you have them I might be able to help.

Can you please post at least one of those addresses you have access the 35BTCs already? Just one address, nothing more...

the 35btc was already have privatekey file next to the address .

but i found a file that have something maybe you know what they mean .


that file was in Microsoft word  :

HOWTO FUND THE COIN
====================

1. Download list of generated addresses for Series 3 from this link: ( i delete the link )
use this key to download:  ( i delete the key )
2. Read and copy QR code of the back of printed certificate, this is the bitcoin address of your coin
3. Check that address just read is in the full list you downloaded. You can find this reading ‘bitcoin address’ column.
4. Check that ID number of front of the certificate match with ‘ID number’ column of that list too.
4. If steps 3 and 4 are OK the you can send the desired amount of btc to that address to fund the coin using your preferred bitcoin wallet.
5. Check your transaction is confirmed at http://blockchain.info/address/put-your-address-here


HOWTO REDEEM THE COIN
=======================

1. Peel off the security hologram of the coin

2. Read and copy QR code of the printed paper under the hologram, this is the encrypted private key of your coin (begin with ‘6P’).

3. Read and copy the passphrase printed on the back of certificate

Option 1: Using http://bit2factor.org (recommended)
---------------------------------------------------------------------

4. Go to Two-Factor Escrow -> Decrypt private key option
And paste there the encrypted private key (from step 2) and the passphrase (from step 3).
Finally click ‘Decrypt private key’ option and copy the private key (WIF format, begin with ‘5’).

5. Open your preferred (BIP38 compatible, like blockchain.info, bitcoin-qt, electrum) bitcoin wallet and find ‘import private key’ option or similar and paste there your private key from step 4.

6. Check your bitcoin wallet balance to reflect the amount of btc from recently imported coin.


Option 2: Using http://blockchain.info/wallet
----------------------------------------------------------

4. Go to ‘Import/export’ -> ‘Import private key’ option
And paste there the encrypted private key (from step 2) and click ‘import private key’, it will ask you the passphrase, so you will paste it (from step 3).
Finally click ‘import’ option.

5. Check your coin address will show in the wallet addresses list.

6. Check your bitcoin wallet balance to reflect the amount of btc from recently imported coin.
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2. Read and copy QR code of the printed paper under the hologram, this is the encrypted private key of your coin (begin with ‘6P’).



Exactly.

You have address, you have passphrase - all you miss is the encrypted private key.
Keys were written on the coins...
Now you know what you are looking for - maybe there is backup - list of "6P..." texts.
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2. Read and copy QR code of the printed paper under the hologram, this is the encrypted private key of your coin (begin with ‘6P’).



Exactly.

You have address, you have passphrase - all you miss is the encrypted private key.
Keys were written on the coins...
Now you know what you are looking for - maybe there is backup - list of "6P..." texts.

did not find any file with 6P
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it says the seeds will give me the 6P number

but where can i find it if the web i need to Using http://bit2factor.org  is close ?


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it says the seeds will give me the 6P number

but where can i find it if the web i need to Using http://bit2factor.org  is close ?


try https://www.bitaddress.org/

or maybe download this repository (if it is the archive of bit2factor.org)
https://github.com/mannkind/bit2factor.org




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The 6P is the encrypted private key you need to decrypt it with the 6 / 12 word passphrase to get the WIF private key.
See here: https://github.com/bitcoinjs/bip38#encryptbuffer-compressed-passphrase-progresscallback-scryptparams
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Quoting for reference.

Don't waste your time on the 6 word passphrases. They are not seeds.
Those are only a blockchain.info wallet passphrases, but you need the decrypted private key. Let me know if you find any keys starting with '6P'. If you have them I might be able to help.

Can you please post at least one of those addresses you have access the 35BTCs already? Just one address, nothing more...

the 35btc was already have privatekey file next to the address .

but i found a file that have something maybe you know what they mean .


that file was in Microsoft word  :

HOWTO FUND THE COIN
====================

1. Download list of generated addresses for Series 3 from this link: ( i delete the link )
use this key to download:  ( i delete the key )
2. Read and copy QR code of the back of printed certificate, this is the bitcoin address of your coin
3. Check that address just read is in the full list you downloaded. You can find this reading ‘bitcoin address’ column.
4. Check that ID number of front of the certificate match with ‘ID number’ column of that list too.
4. If steps 3 and 4 are OK the you can send the desired amount of btc to that address to fund the coin using your preferred bitcoin wallet.
5. Check your transaction is confirmed at http://blockchain.info/address/put-your-address-here


HOWTO REDEEM THE COIN
=======================

1. Peel off the security hologram of the coin

2. Read and copy QR code of the printed paper under the hologram, this is the encrypted private key of your coin (begin with ‘6P’).

3. Read and copy the passphrase printed on the back of certificate

Option 1: Using http://bit2factor.org (recommended)
---------------------------------------------------------------------

4. Go to Two-Factor Escrow -> Decrypt private key option
And paste there the encrypted private key (from step 2) and the passphrase (from step 3).
Finally click ‘Decrypt private key’ option and copy the private key (WIF format, begin with ‘5’).

5. Open your preferred (BIP38 compatible, like blockchain.info, bitcoin-qt, electrum) bitcoin wallet and find ‘import private key’ option or similar and paste there your private key from step 4.

6. Check your bitcoin wallet balance to reflect the amount of btc from recently imported coin.


Option 2: Using http://blockchain.info/wallet
----------------------------------------------------------

4. Go to ‘Import/export’ -> ‘Import private key’ option
And paste there the encrypted private key (from step 2) and click ‘import private key’, it will ask you the passphrase, so you will paste it (from step 3).
Finally click ‘import’ option.

5. Check your coin address will show in the wallet addresses list.

6. Check your bitcoin wallet balance to reflect the amount of btc from recently imported coin.


This just convinced me that you have in possession the HDD of the creator of bhCoins.
See below.

Please explain how you got in control of the hard drive, obviously you are not the original creator of the physical coins. He knows how to redeem the bitcoinsfor sure.

The other question is why the creator kept private keys, and do those pr. keys belong to the physical coins.

UPDATE 15/04!!!!: [OPEN] bhCoins Serie 4 DIY physical bitcoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=951699.0



UPDATE 10/17: full list of generated address (only for buyers) is here https://mega.co.nz/#!fcsGRRYK

Hi, we’re proud to introduce you the brand new bhCoin 2F Serie 3 (BIP38 compatible or Two Factor coin).


It's a limited edition of 200 coins, and we reserve for ourself the first 20 of them.

We generate the encrypted key (BIP38) and we assemble the coin and send it to you via registered letter mail.

Along with the coin we send you a certificate with the passphrase randomly generated so you can redeem the coin funds on a bitcoin wallet compatible with BIP38, as blockchain.info/wallet is.

You contact us and we send you a custom payment address. After receiving the payment we ship you asap.

The coins are UNFUNDED. We can fund them if buyer send us the 0.1 btc for each coin.


It has been a long time but now we have registered our official forum user, until we post updates here we are considered as “newbie” (but we can give references from our actual clients).

We have freenode IRC user too.


Price will increase as the edition sells out.

We will wait your order!


HOWTO FUND THE COIN
====================

1. Download full list of generated addresses for Series 3 from this link: https://mega.co.nz/#!fcsGRRYK
use thes key provided by us to download the file.
2. Read and copy QR code of the back of printed certificate, this is the bitcoin address of your coin (begin with '1')
3. Check that address just read is in the full list you downloaded. You can find this reading ‘bitcoin address’ column.
4. Check that ID number of front of the certificate match with ‘ID number’ column of that list too.
4. If steps 3 and 4 are OK the you can send the desired amount of btc to that address to fund the coin using your preferred bitcoin wallet.
5. Check your transaction is confirmed at http://blockchain.info/address/put-your-address-here


HOWTO REDEEM THE COIN
=======================

1. Peel off the security hologram of the coin

2. Read and copy QR code of the printed paper under the hologram, this is the encrypted private key of your coin (begin with ‘6P’).

3. Read and copy the passphrase printed on the back of certificate

Option 1: Using http://bit2factor.org (recommended)
---------------------------------------------------------------------

4. Go to Two-Factor Escrow -> Decrypt private key option
And paste there the encrypted private key (from step 2) and the passphrase (from step 3).
Finally click ‘Decrypt private key’ option and copy the private key (WIF format, begin with ‘5’).

5. Open your preferred (BIP38 compatible, like blockchain.info, bitcoin-qt, electrum) bitcoin wallet and find ‘import private key’ option or similar and paste there your private key from step 4.

6. Check your bitcoin wallet balance to reflect the amount of btc from recently imported coin.


Option 2: Using http://blockchain.info/wallet
----------------------------------------------------------

4. Go to ‘Import/export’ -> ‘Import private key’ option
And paste there the encrypted private key (from step 2) and click ‘import private key’, it will ask you the passphrase, so you will paste it (from step 3).
Finally click ‘import’ option.

5. Check your coin address will show in the wallet addresses list.

6. Check your bitcoin wallet balance to reflect the amount of btc from recently imported coin.



You can check Serie 1 and Serie 2 of our coin here and here.


Donations welcomed at 1bhCoinfJEQZrFJchAwVxFsrMikyNoFSo

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( i delete the link )
There's no point in deleting links, if the same text can be found in [CLOSED] bhCoins Serie 3 0.1 BTC denominated physical Bitcoin.

This just convinced me that you have in possession the HDD of the creator of bhCoins.
The data could have been kept by a buyer who kept records on how to redeem his physical coins.

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The other question is why the creator kept private keys, and do those pr. keys belong to the physical coins.
Or why he had 35 BTC (or more) stored unencrypted on a hard drive.

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The other question is why the creator kept private keys, and do those pr. keys belong to the physical coins.
Did he keep private keys those?

As far as I can tell, the download at mega.nz was simply a list of all the generated "addresses":
1. Download full list of generated addresses for Series 3 from this link: https://mega.co.nz/#!fcsGRRYK
use thes key provided by us to download the file.


The private keys were (quite rightly), only printed and "stored" on the physical coins themselves... underneath the security holograms:
HOWTO REDEEM THE COIN
=======================

1. Peel off the security hologram of the coin

2. Read and copy QR code of the printed paper under the hologram, this is the encrypted private key of your coin (begin with ‘6P’).


It seems the OP here has the Address List... and the "passphrase" list for decoding the BIP38 encoded private keys... but doesn't have access to the private keys from the physical coins themselves.

Essentially, OP has found a keychain with a whole bunch of keys on it... but doesn't have the "locked boxes" that these keys actual unlock Roll Eyes

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The other question is why the creator kept private keys, and do those pr. keys belong to the physical coins.
Did he keep private keys those?

I'm referring to those 35 bitcoins he manage to retrieve. He said that next to each address there was a private key or a seed.
I have no idea if those coins belong to the actual physical coins, that's why I asked for at least one address from those with the 35 btc funds. If this address appear in one of the lists with the coins, that it can be either someone who bought many coins, peeled them off and made a database with the addresses and private keys, or our OP have gotten in possession (legally or illegally) the actual hard-disk of the creator of the physical coins and they contained private keys which is not what the creator stated here.

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the 35btc was already have privatekey file next to the address .

Looking at the pictures the OP has posted, I'm a bit more convinced that he might have access to the creators hard disk.

https://imgbb.com/bmVtnF3
https://imgbb.com/HKyBWHC

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I have no idea if those coins belong to the actual physical coins
I could only find addresses for Series 1 and Series 4: none of those addresses have been redeemed recently.

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Looking at the pictures the OP has posted, I'm a bit more convinced that he might have access to the creators hard disk.
We never got clear what's under the "Redeem" QR, but it's starting to make sense if that's a BIP38 encrypted private key.
However, this is what OP said about it:
the QR show only the btc address thats the problem and only with 6 word key to redeem and collect .
That wouldn't explain why he removed the Redeem QR. Unless it was blank already.

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Quoting for reference.

Don't waste your time on the 6 word passphrases. They are not seeds.
Those are only a blockchain.info wallet passphrases, but you need the decrypted private key. Let me know if you find any keys starting with '6P'. If you have them I might be able to help.

Can you please post at least one of those addresses you have access the 35BTCs already? Just one address, nothing more...

the 35btc was already have privatekey file next to the address .

but i found a file that have something maybe you know what they mean .


that file was in Microsoft word  :

HOWTO FUND THE COIN
====================

1. Download list of generated addresses for Series 3 from this link: ( i delete the link )
use this key to download:  ( i delete the key )
2. Read and copy QR code of the back of printed certificate, this is the bitcoin address of your coin
3. Check that address just read is in the full list you downloaded. You can find this reading ‘bitcoin address’ column.
4. Check that ID number of front of the certificate match with ‘ID number’ column of that list too.
4. If steps 3 and 4 are OK the you can send the desired amount of btc to that address to fund the coin using your preferred bitcoin wallet.
5. Check your transaction is confirmed at http://blockchain.info/address/put-your-address-here


HOWTO REDEEM THE COIN
=======================

1. Peel off the security hologram of the coin

2. Read and copy QR code of the printed paper under the hologram, this is the encrypted private key of your coin (begin with ‘6P’).

3. Read and copy the passphrase printed on the back of certificate

Option 1: Using http://bit2factor.org (recommended)
---------------------------------------------------------------------

4. Go to Two-Factor Escrow -> Decrypt private key option
And paste there the encrypted private key (from step 2) and the passphrase (from step 3).
Finally click ‘Decrypt private key’ option and copy the private key (WIF format, begin with ‘5’).

5. Open your preferred (BIP38 compatible, like blockchain.info, bitcoin-qt, electrum) bitcoin wallet and find ‘import private key’ option or similar and paste there your private key from step 4.

6. Check your bitcoin wallet balance to reflect the amount of btc from recently imported coin.


Option 2: Using http://blockchain.info/wallet
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4. Go to ‘Import/export’ -> ‘Import private key’ option
And paste there the encrypted private key (from step 2) and click ‘import private key’, it will ask you the passphrase, so you will paste it (from step 3).
Finally click ‘import’ option.

5. Check your coin address will show in the wallet addresses list.

6. Check your bitcoin wallet balance to reflect the amount of btc from recently imported coin.


This just convinced me that you have in possession the HDD of the creator of bhCoins.
See below.

Please explain how you got in control of the hard drive, obviously you are not the original creator of the physical coins. He knows how to redeem the bitcoinsfor sure.

The other question is why the creator kept private keys, and do those pr. keys belong to the physical coins.

UPDATE 15/04!!!!: [OPEN] bhCoins Serie 4 DIY physical bitcoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=951699.0



UPDATE 10/17: full list of generated address (only for buyers) is here https://mega.co.nz/#!fcsGRRYK

Hi, we’re proud to introduce you the brand new bhCoin 2F Serie 3 (BIP38 compatible or Two Factor coin).


It's a limited edition of 200 coins, and we reserve for ourself the first 20 of them.

We generate the encrypted key (BIP38) and we assemble the coin and send it to you via registered letter mail.

Along with the coin we send you a certificate with the passphrase randomly generated so you can redeem the coin funds on a bitcoin wallet compatible with BIP38, as blockchain.info/wallet is.

You contact us and we send you a custom payment address. After receiving the payment we ship you asap.

The coins are UNFUNDED. We can fund them if buyer send us the 0.1 btc for each coin.


It has been a long time but now we have registered our official forum user, until we post updates here we are considered as “newbie” (but we can give references from our actual clients).

We have freenode IRC user too.


Price will increase as the edition sells out.

We will wait your order!


HOWTO FUND THE COIN
====================

1. Download full list of generated addresses for Series 3 from this link: https://mega.co.nz/#!fcsGRRYK
use thes key provided by us to download the file.
2. Read and copy QR code of the back of printed certificate, this is the bitcoin address of your coin (begin with '1')
3. Check that address just read is in the full list you downloaded. You can find this reading ‘bitcoin address’ column.
4. Check that ID number of front of the certificate match with ‘ID number’ column of that list too.
4. If steps 3 and 4 are OK the you can send the desired amount of btc to that address to fund the coin using your preferred bitcoin wallet.
5. Check your transaction is confirmed at http://blockchain.info/address/put-your-address-here


HOWTO REDEEM THE COIN
=======================

1. Peel off the security hologram of the coin

2. Read and copy QR code of the printed paper under the hologram, this is the encrypted private key of your coin (begin with ‘6P’).

3. Read and copy the passphrase printed on the back of certificate

Option 1: Using http://bit2factor.org (recommended)
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4. Go to Two-Factor Escrow -> Decrypt private key option
And paste there the encrypted private key (from step 2) and the passphrase (from step 3).
Finally click ‘Decrypt private key’ option and copy the private key (WIF format, begin with ‘5’).

5. Open your preferred (BIP38 compatible, like blockchain.info, bitcoin-qt, electrum) bitcoin wallet and find ‘import private key’ option or similar and paste there your private key from step 4.

6. Check your bitcoin wallet balance to reflect the amount of btc from recently imported coin.


Option 2: Using http://blockchain.info/wallet
----------------------------------------------------------

4. Go to ‘Import/export’ -> ‘Import private key’ option
And paste there the encrypted private key (from step 2) and click ‘import private key’, it will ask you the passphrase, so you will paste it (from step 3).
Finally click ‘import’ option.

5. Check your coin address will show in the wallet addresses list.

6. Check your bitcoin wallet balance to reflect the amount of btc from recently imported coin.



You can check Serie 1 and Serie 2 of our coin here and here.


Donations welcomed at 1bhCoinfJEQZrFJchAwVxFsrMikyNoFSo

yes sir i see many file called bhCoins and many txt file and pic with the bhCoins on it ?
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August 21, 2020, 11:25:32 AM
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I have no idea if those coins belong to the actual physical coins
I could only find addresses for Series 1 and Series 4: none of those addresses have been redeemed recently.

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Looking at the pictures the OP has posted, I'm a bit more convinced that he might have access to the creators hard disk.
We never got clear what's under the "Redeem" QR, but it's starting to make sense if that's a BIP38 encrypted private key.
However, this is what OP said about it:
the QR show only the btc address thats the problem and only with 6 word key to redeem and collect .
That wouldn't explain why he removed the Redeem QR. Unless it was blank already.

if you know who is the owner for that HHD i can help him and take my 30% of what he lost
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I have no idea if those coins belong to the actual physical coins
I could only find addresses for Series 1 and Series 4: none of those addresses have been redeemed recently.

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Looking at the pictures the OP has posted, I'm a bit more convinced that he might have access to the creators hard disk.
We never got clear what's under the "Redeem" QR, but it's starting to make sense if that's a BIP38 encrypted private key.
However, this is what OP said about it:
the QR show only the btc address thats the problem and only with 6 word key to redeem and collect .
That wouldn't explain why he removed the Redeem QR. Unless it was blank already.

if you know who is the owner for that HHD i can help him and take my 30% of what he lost

As you wrote few days ago, he just lost 35BTC...

For the rest, I think it is all you may restore. Files you have are information he sent to buyers of his coins. I would be very surprised if he kept private key AND passphrase on his computer - it would mean that it is difficult to trust him as a seller, because he would be able to get buyer's BTC any moment. So, I think private key were only on the coins and he kept passphrases together with addresses, as a extra info which he had to give to buyer.
Maybe, maybe, you will find something else - some wallets (.dat files) etc, but at least you know exactly who is the owner of the files and whom money you take.
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I have no idea if those coins belong to the actual physical coins
I could only find addresses for Series 1 and Series 4: none of those addresses have been redeemed recently.

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Looking at the pictures the OP has posted, I'm a bit more convinced that he might have access to the creators hard disk.
We never got clear what's under the "Redeem" QR, but it's starting to make sense if that's a BIP38 encrypted private key.
However, this is what OP said about it:
the QR show only the btc address thats the problem and only with 6 word key to redeem and collect .
That wouldn't explain why he removed the Redeem QR. Unless it was blank already.

if you know who is the owner for that HHD i can help him and take my 30% of what he lost

You are anonymous here anyway, please explain how you found this hard-drive? Also it's not very clear who was the previous owner, there should be some clues on that hard drive.

You know, bitcoin is a great invention and for the honest people this is a game changer. Unfortunately many conman are also impressed by the possibilities to trick and scam people without leaving their desks. That's why the world sees the bitcoin and crypto in general as a tool for stealing money. We need more good people to change that impression.

I admire your will the help and return the coins to the real owner (and keeping your share), if this is your real intention, please check this hard drive for more information, but if you find something, please don't expose any personal info here. Send it to someone with a good reputation like LoyceV (but ask him first if it's OK).

We badly need more good people in the crypo field.

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August 21, 2020, 11:37:12 AM
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if you know who is the owner for that HHD i can help him
Chances are you can find information about the owner on the same HDD. I'm still curious how you got the HDD: did you buy it? Did you find it in a trash bin? Was it dumped/stolen?

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and take my 30% of what he lost
Lol

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if you know who is the owner for that HHD i can help him
Chances are you can find information about the owner on the same HDD. I'm still curious how you got the HDD: did you buy it? Did you find it in a trash bin? Was it dumped/stolen?

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and take my 30% of what he lost
Lol

we have old stores who sell old and junk PC and laptops for very cheap price like sometime 10$ and
believe me when i say you find many staf in   some HHD and you can fix TV and PS4 to sell in locall web .
i found once wallets and etherum private keys and found many many many walled.dat

also porno for kids and illegal staf also .

it was a hobby for me and im good in fixing staf like tv and PS4 but very noop in crypto word .

one day i ask help here for ETH private keys and how to redeem them and some one scam me .

so i dont trust no one .
i still have many privatekey for ETH and some dump for private key of btc .

but did not have time to google it or ask for help


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I have no idea if those coins belong to the actual physical coins
I could only find addresses for Series 1 and Series 4: none of those addresses have been redeemed recently.

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Looking at the pictures the OP has posted, I'm a bit more convinced that he might have access to the creators hard disk.
We never got clear what's under the "Redeem" QR, but it's starting to make sense if that's a BIP38 encrypted private key.
However, this is what OP said about it:
the QR show only the btc address thats the problem and only with 6 word key to redeem and collect .
That wouldn't explain why he removed the Redeem QR. Unless it was blank already.

if you know who is the owner for that HHD i can help him and take my 30% of what he lost

You are anonymous here anyway, please explain how you found this hard-drive? Also it's not very clear who was the previous owner, there should be some clues on that hard drive.

You know, bitcoin is a great invention and for the honest people this is a game changer. Unfortunately many conman are also impressed by the possibilities to trick and scam people without leaving their desks. That's why the world sees the bitcoin and crypto in general as a tool for stealing money. We need more good people to change that impression.

I admire your will the help and return the coins to the real owner (and keeping your share), if this is your real intention, please check this hard drive for more information, but if you find something, please don't expose any personal info here. Send it to someone with a good reputation like LoyceV (but ask him first if it's OK).

We badly need more good people in the crypo field.



maybe you can find who this wallets for ? https://ibb.co/7G5hBrK
or this private keys for https://ibb.co/F0hSn90

some old as 2011/2013 some are new 2017/2016


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August 21, 2020, 12:44:15 PM
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This is big collection of files to try.
Copy everything on one USB drive, Download bitcoin-qt, install it on separate PC, wait to synchronize then disconect the internet and import the wallet.dat files from the USB.
You always need to have a backup so don't do anything to the original files.
Probably the wallet.dat files will be protected with a password, but it should be easy to find in all those files there.

You have already learned your lesson, so don't trust anyone to send files to or give access. You can probably follow the instruction of some of the reputed members here. They would not risk their accounts to be ruined.

If you have evidence for the guy who scammed you, maybe it's also a good idea to post accusations.
Main Rule > Never trust newbie accounts!!!

Good luck. You already are a luck man Smiley

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And you may use this tool: https://learnmeabitcoin.com/technical/wif
to convert private key to WIF (compressed or not) which you may import into bitcoin wallet.
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This is big collection of files to try.
Copy everything on one USB drive, Download bitcoin-qt, install it on separate PC, wait to synchronize then disconect the internet and import the wallet.dat files from the USB.
You always need to have a backup so don't do anything to the original files.
Probably the wallet.dat files will be protected with a password, but it should be easy to find in all those files there.

You have already learned your lesson, so don't trust anyone to send files to or give access. You can probably follow the instruction of some of the reputed members here. They would not risk their accounts to be ruined.

If you have evidence for the guy who scammed you, maybe it's also a good idea to post accusations.
Main Rule > Never trust newbie accounts!!!

Good luck. You already are a luck man Smiley

thanks but it says i need like 6 years to download blocks ?

and i already learn my lesson . i have many msg about making me a script ot help but i want help here not in msg .

thanks
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This is big collection of files to try.
Copy everything on one USB drive, Download bitcoin-qt, install it on separate PC, wait to synchronize then disconect the internet and import the wallet.dat files from the USB.
You always need to have a backup so don't do anything to the original files.
Probably the wallet.dat files will be protected with a password, but it should be easy to find in all those files there.

You have already learned your lesson, so don't trust anyone to send files to or give access. You can probably follow the instruction of some of the reputed members here. They would not risk their accounts to be ruined.

If you have evidence for the guy who scammed you, maybe it's also a good idea to post accusations.
Main Rule > Never trust newbie accounts!!!

Good luck. You already are a luck man Smiley

thanks but it says i need like 6 years to download blocks ?

and i already learn my lesson . i have many msg about making me a script ot help but i want help here not in msg .

thanks

You can just export the private key without downloading the whole blockchain like using :
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dumpprivkey "your bitcoin address"

Then just import the private keys in Electrum.

Found the guide :
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transferring_coins_from_Bitcoin-Qt_to_Electrum

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This is big collection of files to try.
Copy everything on one USB drive, Download bitcoin-qt, install it on separate PC, wait to synchronize then disconect the internet and import the wallet.dat files from the USB.
You always need to have a backup so don't do anything to the original files.
Probably the wallet.dat files will be protected with a password, but it should be easy to find in all those files there.

You have already learned your lesson, so don't trust anyone to send files to or give access. You can probably follow the instruction of some of the reputed members here. They would not risk their accounts to be ruined.

If you have evidence for the guy who scammed you, maybe it's also a good idea to post accusations.
Main Rule > Never trust newbie accounts!!!

Good luck. You already are a luck man Smiley

thanks but it says i need like 6 years to download blocks ?

and i already learn my lesson . i have many msg about making me a script ot help but i want help here not in msg .

thanks

You can just export the private key without downloading the whole blockchain like using :
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dumpprivkey "your bitcoin address"

Then just import the private keys in Electrum.

Found the guide :
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transferring_coins_from_Bitcoin-Qt_to_Electrum

first wallet.dat

https://ibb.co/FqTYw4p

after that its scanning ?

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Bitcoin Core expects to have the whole blockchain downloaded - so it may confirm the state of wallet. Do not waste your time - extract keys and import to another program - Electrum or other.
Depending of your connection speed and your hard disk (normal or ssd) you may need to wait some time for the whole blockchain to download, maybe day, maybe 2, maybe more.
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Bitcoin Core expects to have the whole blockchain downloaded - so it may confirm the state of wallet. Do not waste your time - extract keys and import to another program - Electrum or other.
Depending of your connection speed and your hard disk (normal or ssd) you may need to wait some time for the whole blockchain to download, maybe day, maybe 2, maybe more.
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its still rescanning  for 5 min now  ? no core open or wallet opend ?
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It happens.
Maybe delete bitcoin data folder (downloaded blockchain) and start again, to start from the beginning.
I read about issue with Mac computers, where BitcoinCore start took lot of time because it was calculating some blocks already downloaded - and with slow disk it may take some time.
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See if you can locate some passphrases for those wallets.

BTW you can download the blockchain from a torrent file, on different computer. Then you can try all the others .dat files.

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I admire your will the help and return the coins to the real owner (and keeping your share), if this is your real intention, please check this hard drive for more information, but if you find something, please don't expose any personal info here. Send it to someone with a good reputation like LoyceV (but ask him first if it's OK).
I don't generally want personal information, but if it helps to find back the real owner, the end can justify the means.

we have old stores who sell old and junk PC and laptops for very cheap price like sometime 10$
That's an interesting case from a legal and even philosophical perspective. If you buy hardware that hold private keys, does that make you the owner of the coins? It might also depend on the country you live in.

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also porno for kids and illegal staf also .
On the same disk as the private keys?

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one day i ask help here for ETH private keys and how to redeem them and some one scam me .
In general, you shouldn't ever trust anyone with private keys! That being said, I've been entrusted with private keys (for my Fork claiming service). There are at most a few people on this forum who I'd trust with private keys. In general: don't do it! As a last resort: it might be worth it.

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i still have many privatekey for ETH and some dump for private key of btc .

but did not have time to google it or ask for help
Private keys are the easiest thing to sweep, even a mobile wallet (Coinomi) can do it for many different coins.

We badly need more good people in the crypo field.
I still have mixed feelings about this case: on the one hand it's an exciting treasure hunt, on the other hand there's someone else who's lost his Bitcoins. He may or may not have a backup.
Selling a broken computer with private keys on it is just dumb though.

first wallet.dat

https://ibb.co/FqTYw4p

after that its scanning ?
That looks okay, now wait a bit to download and verify 310 GB.

Bitcoin Core expects to have the whole blockchain downloaded - so it may confirm the state of wallet. Do not waste your time - extract keys and import to another program - Electrum or other.
When dealing with crypto, "wasting time" shouldn't matter. Take your time and don't rush things. If it takes 2 days to download, just wait 2 days, it's the safest option. Unless you're worried about the real owner moving his funds Tongue

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I admire your will the help and return the coins to the real owner (and keeping your share), if this is your real intention, please check this hard drive for more information, but if you find something, please don't expose any personal info here. Send it to someone with a good reputation like LoyceV (but ask him first if it's OK).
I don't generally want personal information, but if it helps to find back the real owner, the end can justify the means.

we have old stores who sell old and junk PC and laptops for very cheap price like sometime 10$
That's an interesting case from a legal and even philosophical perspective. If you buy hardware that hold private keys, does that make you the owner of the coins? It might also depend on the country you live in.

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also porno for kids and illegal staf also .
On the same disk as the private keys?

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one day i ask help here for ETH private keys and how to redeem them and some one scam me .
In general, you shouldn't ever trust anyone with private keys! That being said, I've been entrusted with private keys (for my Fork claiming service). There are at most a few people on this forum who I'd trust with private keys. In general: don't do it! As a last resort: it might be worth it.

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i still have many privatekey for ETH and some dump for private key of btc .

but did not have time to google it or ask for help
Private keys are the easiest thing to sweep, even a mobile wallet (Coinomi) can do it for many different coins.

We badly need more good people in the crypo field.
I still have mixed feelings about this case: on the one hand it's an exciting treasure hunt, on the other hand there's someone else who's lost his Bitcoins. He may or may not have a backup.
Selling a broken computer with private keys on it is just dumb though.

first wallet.dat

https://ibb.co/FqTYw4p

after that its scanning ?
That looks okay, now wait a bit to download and verify 310 GB.

Bitcoin Core expects to have the whole blockchain downloaded - so it may confirm the state of wallet. Do not waste your time - extract keys and import to another program - Electrum or other.
When dealing with crypto, "wasting time" shouldn't matter. Take your time and don't rush things. If it takes 2 days to download, just wait 2 days, it's the safest option. Unless you're worried about the real owner moving his funds Tongue

if you did read you will know that im not worried at all

all of files is from 2017 i just have time to ask about crypto word
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See if you can locate some passphrases for those wallets.

BTW you can download the blockchain from a torrent file, on different computer. Then you can try all the others .dat files.

its not responding then shutdown Huh

https://ibb.co/yktLBbh
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i will read more about bitcoin and wallets .

but why etherdelta not safe ?

and also myetherwallet ?

where do you guys redeem ETH private key ?
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where do you guys redeem ETH private key ?
I would try Coinomi for this.

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where do you guys redeem ETH private key ?
I would try Coinomi for this.

i did not trust any downloading wallet.

only bitcoin core .

but why all the above is  not safe ?
is it easy to hack crypto ?
is it easy to hack web wallet ? or downloading ones ?
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where do you guys redeem ETH private key ?
I would try Coinomi for this.
i did not trust any downloading wallet.

only bitcoin core .
Lol Cheesy
I can guarantee you won't be able to redeem an Ethereum private key in Bitcoin Core.

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i did not trust any downloading wallet.
 

Then buy Trezor
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where do you guys redeem ETH private key ?
I would try Coinomi for this.
i did not trust any downloading wallet.

only bitcoin core .
Lol Cheesy
I can guarantee you won't be able to redeem an Ethereum private key in Bitcoin Core.


can i ask where ?
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where do you guys redeem ETH private key ?
I would try Coinomi for this.
i did not trust any downloading wallet.

only bitcoin core .
Lol Cheesy
I can guarantee you won't be able to redeem an Ethereum private key in Bitcoin Core.

can i ask where ?

Bitcoin Core is for bitcoins... please try to google yourself because some of your questions makes me think you are playing with us or you are extremely lazy and want to have answer and solution for everything without any effort.
https://ethereum.org/en/wallets/

If you want safe solution for many coins - buy hardware wallet.
If you do not care at all - create account on blockchain.com
If you are somewhere in the middle and want one wallet for 'everything' - try for example Mycelium
Otherwise you will need to install separate application for each coin, like Electrum for bitcoins, ElectronCash for bitcoin cash, etc.
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where do you guys redeem ETH private key ?
I would try Coinomi for this.
i did not trust any downloading wallet.

only bitcoin core .
Lol Cheesy
I can guarantee you won't be able to redeem an Ethereum private key in Bitcoin Core.

can i ask where ?

Bitcoin Core is for bitcoins... please try to google yourself because some of your questions makes me think you are playing with us or you are extremely lazy and want to have answer and solution for everything without any effort.
https://ethereum.org/en/wallets/

If you want safe solution for many coins - buy hardware wallet.
If you do not care at all - create account on blockchain.com
If you are somewhere in the middle and want one wallet for 'everything' - try for example Mycelium
Otherwise you will need to install separate application for each coin, like Electrum for bitcoins, ElectronCash for bitcoin cash, etc.

can Mycelium take wallet.dat ?
and i know that bitcoin core for btc only
my question was fro eth and other wallet.dat .
 
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and for pc not an app for android or iphone please
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ETH you'll want something like MyEtherWallet or MyCrypto

Be careful when trying to use these websites... there are a LOT of scam "clones" designed to steal private keys. So take your time, double (or triple) check URLs and don't rush.

As for wallet.dats, Bitcoin Core (and it's derivatives like Bitcoin Knots) are the only wallet applications compatible with "wallet.dat"... So, if you have a BTC "wallet.dat", then your only real wallet software option is Bitcoin Core.

Likewise, if you have a "wallet.dat" for an altcoin like litecoin, or dogecoin etc... then you'll need to download the appropriate "Core" wallet for that particular coin.

Generally, you don't need to download the full blockchain, you can export the private keys and then import those keys into a lightweight (SPV) wallet like Electrum etc...

There are also ways to extract the keys from a "wallet.dat" without needing to use the wallet software (ie. Python scripts like PyWallet etc), but they're arguably more complex to use and can be problematic to use if you're not overly familiar with Python and running scripts from the command line.
 

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ETH you'll want something like MyEtherWallet or MyCrypto

Be careful when trying to use these websites... there are a LOT of scam "clones" designed to steal private keys. So take your time, double (or triple) check URLs and don't rush.

As for wallet.dats, Bitcoin Core (and it's derivatives like Bitcoin Knots) are the only wallet applications compatible with "wallet.dat"... So, if you have a BTC "wallet.dat", then your only real wallet software option is Bitcoin Core.

Likewise, if you have a "wallet.dat" for an altcoin like litecoin, or dogecoin etc... then you'll need to download the appropriate "Core" wallet for that particular coin.

Generally, you don't need to download the full blockchain, you can export the private keys and then import those keys into a lightweight (SPV) wallet like Electrum etc...

There are also ways to extract the keys from a "wallet.dat" without needing to use the wallet software (ie. Python scripts like PyWallet etc), but they're arguably more complex to use and can be problematic to use if you're not overly familiar with Python and running scripts from the command line.
 

is that mean im a milliner now  ?

https://ibb.co/FqjrJ5w
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August 21, 2020, 10:29:46 PM
 #131

ETH you'll want something like MyEtherWallet or MyCrypto

Be careful when trying to use these websites... there are a LOT of scam "clones" designed to steal private keys. So take your time, double (or triple) check URLs and don't rush.

As for wallet.dats, Bitcoin Core (and it's derivatives like Bitcoin Knots) are the only wallet applications compatible with "wallet.dat"... So, if you have a BTC "wallet.dat", then your only real wallet software option is Bitcoin Core.

Likewise, if you have a "wallet.dat" for an altcoin like litecoin, or dogecoin etc... then you'll need to download the appropriate "Core" wallet for that particular coin.

Generally, you don't need to download the full blockchain, you can export the private keys and then import those keys into a lightweight (SPV) wallet like Electrum etc...

There are also ways to extract the keys from a "wallet.dat" without needing to use the wallet software (ie. Python scripts like PyWallet etc), but they're arguably more complex to use and can be problematic to use if you're not overly familiar with Python and running scripts from the command line.
 

is that mean im a milliner now  ?

https://ibb.co/FqjrJ5w

Check the address under the transaction on the https://blockchair.com/ or another block explorer.
If the address begin with "m" then it is a test net wallet and those are only test net bitcoins, but I guess that's not your case. Most likely you are one Smiley

It's quite exiting even for a side observer like me Smiley

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ETH you'll want something like MyEtherWallet or MyCrypto

Be careful when trying to use these websites... there are a LOT of scam "clones" designed to steal private keys. So take your time, double (or triple) check URLs and don't rush.

As for wallet.dats, Bitcoin Core (and it's derivatives like Bitcoin Knots) are the only wallet applications compatible with "wallet.dat"... So, if you have a BTC "wallet.dat", then your only real wallet software option is Bitcoin Core.

Likewise, if you have a "wallet.dat" for an altcoin like litecoin, or dogecoin etc... then you'll need to download the appropriate "Core" wallet for that particular coin.

Generally, you don't need to download the full blockchain, you can export the private keys and then import those keys into a lightweight (SPV) wallet like Electrum etc...

There are also ways to extract the keys from a "wallet.dat" without needing to use the wallet software (ie. Python scripts like PyWallet etc), but they're arguably more complex to use and can be problematic to use if you're not overly familiar with Python and running scripts from the command line.
 

is that mean im a milliner now  ?

https://ibb.co/FqjrJ5w

Check the address under the transaction on the https://blockchair.com/ or another block explorer.
If the address begin with "m" then it is a test net wallet and those are only test net bitcoins, but I guess that's not your case. Most likely you are one Smiley

It's quite exiting even for a side observer like me Smiley

So all i need is to wait for bitcoin core to download all blocks ! Yes

And if its 300btc I promise you will get at least 10btc

You was very kind guy and most helpfull
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So all i need is to wait for bitcoin core to download all blocks ! Yes

And if its 300btc I promise you will get at least 10btc

You was very kind guy and most helpfull

Wow, I didn't expect that. That's really a lot of money. If it happens so, I'll give part of it for charity, I already know who's life I can change.

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My concern is that the transaction is "grey" and in [ ]'s which generally means that while the transaction is stored in the wallet.dat's history, it doesn't actually exist in the blockchain itself. This could be because the transaction was actually in an "orphaned" block and/or it was invalidated by a "doublespend" etc... in which case, you probably won't have access to those funds. Undecided

I would suggest that you go into the transaction list tab, right click that 300+BTC transaction and then copy the "TransactionID" and then check that transaction on a block explorer like blockchair.com.

If the transaction exists on the BTC chain, and those coins haven't been spent in any transaction after the date shown (25th Oct 2014), then there is a chance you may have 300 BTC. Congrats! Cheesy

If that Transaction does NOT appear on a BTC explorer, then there is a chance that the wallet.dat is actually an altcoin wallet.dat (ie. Litecoin or Dogecoin etc)... or it was an orphan block/doublespend situation. Sad

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August 22, 2020, 12:32:48 AM
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where do you guys redeem ETH private key ?
I would try Coinomi for this.
i did not trust any downloading wallet.

only bitcoin core .
Lol Cheesy
I can guarantee you won't be able to redeem an Ethereum private key in Bitcoin Core.


can i ask where ?

You can try https://metamask.io can work in Android/IOS/CHROME/FIREFOX

Bitcoin Core is just for bitcoin lol
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August 22, 2020, 07:03:37 AM
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is that mean im a milliner now  ?
I had to Google the word:
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a person who makes or sells women's hats.
But seeing the picture explained it Smiley

My concern is that the transaction is "grey" and in [ ]'s which generally means that while the transaction is stored in the wallet.dat's history, it doesn't actually exist in the blockchain itself.
My guess is he hasn't downloaded the blockchain up to 2014 yet.

If the transaction exists on the BTC chain, and those coins haven't been spent in any transaction after the date shown (25th Oct 2014), then there is a chance you may have 300 BTC. Congrats! Cheesy
The next question is: is there a password on the wallet.dat?

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My concern is that the transaction is "grey" and in [ ]'s which generally means that while the transaction is stored in the wallet.dat's history, it doesn't actually exist in the blockchain itself. This could be because the transaction was actually in an "orphaned" block and/or it was invalidated by a "doublespend" etc... in which case, you probably won't have access to those funds. Undecided

I would suggest that you go into the transaction list tab, right click that 300+BTC transaction and then copy the "TransactionID" and then check that transaction on a block explorer like blockchair.com.

If the transaction exists on the BTC chain, and those coins haven't been spent in any transaction after the date shown (25th Oct 2014), then there is a chance you may have 300 BTC. Congrats! Cheesy

If that Transaction does NOT appear on a BTC explorer, then there is a chance that the wallet.dat is actually an altcoin wallet.dat (ie. Litecoin or Dogecoin etc)... or it was an orphan block/doublespend situation. Sad

this is the second wallet

 https://ibb.co/TPhQF4x

is that for real or what Huh?
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August 22, 2020, 10:00:59 AM
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Hard to tell really... Until you've synced the blocks past the transaction date, it won't properly show as confirmed in the wallet.

Like we've said, goto the "Transactions" tab... right click on one of the Transactions... "Copy Transaction ID"... then search for that TransactionID in a blockexplorer like blockchair.com, blockcypher.com, btc.com, blockchain.com

If the transaction is found, then chances are they will turn out to be real in your wallet! Wink

Then it's just a matter of whether or not any other transactions have occurred since 2013 that have spent those funds.

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August 22, 2020, 10:03:12 AM
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https://ibb.co/TPhQF4x

is that for real or what Huh?
Nope:
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/19Nu8PQLYqoYkAMoWbZkQnXDXzrokxccyt
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/1AbJLiSit9gsfDiq57MmHBkdhFKbWzaQSj
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/18Lo1L9X74e19sH2e3YtXeQafXc56fpzRZ

I've seen similar things when the wallet belongs to an altcoin.

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oh... duh... the addresses were listed there! hahaha

Yeah, likely an altcoin wallet.dat... if you open that wallet.dat with a text editor and do a search for "name" you should find the addresses listed in their "native" format... the first character should hopefully give some indication of what coin it actually is

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most wallet like salvage

https://ibb.co/k1V1Cyr

and other empty
other are missing somthing

https://ibb.co/CKVdJJG

other called ppc_wallet
anc_wallet
bit-wallet
fiber-wallet
html5-wallet

to many names for wallet ?
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August 22, 2020, 10:20:55 AM
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other called ppc_wallet
anc_wallet
bit-wallet
fiber-wallet
html5-wallet
See CoinMarketCap to find the right coin. I wouldn't trust most of the wallets, so use a VM.

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other called ppc_wallet
anc_wallet
bit-wallet
fiber-wallet
html5-wallet
See CoinMarketCap to find the right coin. I wouldn't trust most of the wallets, so use a VM.

for what that VM ?

6 seeds
12 seeds
privatekeys
wallets for many kind
it seems i need to read more and more about crypto .

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for what that VM ?
If the wallet you install contains malware, you won't infect your host system.

Or get a few new laptops, with 35 BTC and more to come that seems like a good investment.

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August 22, 2020, 10:33:42 AM
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You can dump the wallets with db-util and analyze the result to see to which coin(s) they belong.
If it's a corrupt wallet use the - R switch to aggressively salvage data from a possibly corrupt file.
See here: https://web.stanford.edu/class/cs276a/projects/docs/berkeleydb/utility/db_dump.html
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for what that VM ?
If the wallet you install contains malware, you won't infect your host system.

Or get a few new laptops, with 35 BTC and more to come that seems like a good investment.
i already have 3
one for bitcoin wallet core only

one for talking to you

one for saving all my files
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it seems very hard to be a crypto geek

to many Secretary in this files .

anyone know how to crack this zip file ?

i have 6 and its 2013 wallet.dat

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Did you try opening any of those wallet.dat's with a text editor and searching for the text "name"? Huh If so, did you find any addresses?

The first letter/number of any "name" records that you find in the wallet.dat's will give a good indication as to what coin the wallet.dat was used for.

You can see in this screenshot... all the "name" records start with "D" ("DMJH...","DRPY...","DJBB...","DQfQH..." etc), that indicates that it is a Dogecoin wallet.



It would also pay to check the "corrupted" wallet.dat's... it's possible that if they are for altcoins, that the developers may have made modifications that make their wallet.dat look "corrupted" to Bitcoin Core.

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most wallet like salvage

https://ibb.co/k1V1Cyr

and other empty
other are missing somthing

https://ibb.co/CKVdJJG

other called ppc_wallet
anc_wallet
bit-wallet
fiber-wallet
html5-wallet

to many names for wallet ?



Have you tried solution from this page?
https://walletrecovery.info/how-to-recover-your-corrupt-or-deleted-bitcoin-core-wallet/
There is a part about 'salvage failed' error.
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August 24, 2020, 07:56:47 AM
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@OP Can you please post again the screenshot of all the files, You can send it to me in a PM if you want. I think I might be able to locate the person who this wallet blongs to.

I'm interested in a .PGP file. I saw it on the picture and it was called BlueMatt<something>.pgp and we know that the .pgp file is - a security key or digital signature file which can verify the user identity so I tend to believe the BlueMatt is the owner. He has a blog on bitcoin.ninja : https://bluematt.bitcoin.ninja/about/
There I found his Twitter and sent him a DM.

I tend to believe that he is the original owner of the hard drive, let's see what happens...

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@OP Can you please post again the screenshot of all the files, You can send it to me in a PM if you want. I think I might be able to locate the person who this wallet blongs to.

I'm interested in a .PGP file. I saw it on the picture and it was called BlueMatt<something>.pgp and we know that the .pgp file is - a security key or digital signature file which can verify the user identity so I tend to believe the BlueMatt is the owner. He has a blog on bitcoin.ninja : https://bluematt.bitcoin.ninja/about/
There I found his Twitter and sent him a DM.

I tend to believe that he is the original owner of the hard drive, let's see what happens...


which pic you want ?
i forget what pic i but ?
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@OP Can you please post again the screenshot of all the files, You can send it to me in a PM if you want. I think I might be able to locate the person who this wallet blongs to.

I'm interested in a .PGP file. I saw it on the picture and it was called BlueMatt<something>.pgp and we know that the .pgp file is - a security key or digital signature file which can verify the user identity so I tend to believe the BlueMatt is the owner. He has a blog on bitcoin.ninja : https://bluematt.bitcoin.ninja/about/
There I found his Twitter and sent him a DM.

I tend to believe that he is the original owner of the hard drive, let's see what happens...


which pic you want ?
i forget what pic i but ?

The picture of the folder with all the wallet files.
There should be a file called bluematt.pgp or something like that in it.

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I'm interested in a .PGP file. I saw it on the picture and it was called BlueMatt<something>.pgp and we know that the .pgp file is - a security key or digital signature file which can verify the user identity so I tend to believe the BlueMatt is the owner. He has a blog on bitcoin.ninja : https://bluematt.bitcoin.ninja/about/
There I found his Twitter and sent him a DM.
I tend to believe that he is the original owner of the hard drive, let's see what happens...

I wonder if OP would like to give back 30BTC because now he knows who's HDD it is. To lose 30 BTC to get some forgotten altcoins... not a good deal  Cheesy

Good honesty test
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@OP Can you please post again the screenshot of all the files, You can send it to me in a PM if you want. I think I might be able to locate the person who this wallet blongs to.

I'm interested in a .PGP file. I saw it on the picture and it was called BlueMatt<something>.pgp and we know that the .pgp file is - a security key or digital signature file which can verify the user identity so I tend to believe the BlueMatt is the owner. He has a blog on bitcoin.ninja : https://bluematt.bitcoin.ninja/about/
There I found his Twitter and sent him a DM.

I tend to believe that he is the original owner of the hard drive, let's see what happens...


which pic you want ?
i forget what pic i but ?

The picture of the folder with all the wallet files.
There should be a file called bluematt.pgp or something like that in it.

thats all the pic i screenshot


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I'm interested in a .PGP file. I saw it on the picture and it was called BlueMatt<something>.pgp and we know that the .pgp file is - a security key or digital signature file which can verify the user identity so I tend to believe the BlueMatt is the owner. He has a blog on bitcoin.ninja : https://bluematt.bitcoin.ninja/about/
There I found his Twitter and sent him a DM.
I tend to believe that he is the original owner of the hard drive, let's see what happens...

I wonder if OP would like to give back 30BTC because now he knows who's HDD it is. To lose 30 BTC to get some forgotten altcoins... not a good deal  Cheesy

Good honesty test

it was not from there hdd

i have already more hdd to open and search . Smiley

by the way

when i open the wallet in bitcoin core the balance was zero but now its .012btc ?
what that mean ?

https://ibb.co/p466YX8
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You are downloading the blockchain so to see all the transactions you need to wait to completly download all. If there are 6 years left, then you are at 2014 at the moment so you will see all the transaction at that point.

You can see the current balance here : 1Q5ib1cm8SG7N7UL8NYHpXvNmTF7cdZCg


Thanks for the pictures,
I was referring to this one >

On the top you see the bluematt-key.pgp.

BTW, Have you tried to open this PrivateKeyNotes.md file? those are text files you can open with Notepad

EDIT, The bluematt-key.pgp is part of a Gitian software so based on the name cannot be connected to a specific person. I did my best but I cannot find the owner.

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the xdwallet is not work when i open it . its like wallet.dat

what about the file you ask me about ?
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the xdwallet is not work when i open it . its like wallet.dat

what about the file you ask me about ?

I was looking for this > bluematt-key.pgp but this does not belong to that person I was thinking, at  least this is what I found > the file is part of a software, and the name does not reassemble a person.

The coins you have recovered are yours.

As I said before, open PrivateKeyNotes.md with Notepad.

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But what about Coins producer/seller? Promo images, addresses, passphrases...
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the xdwallet is not work when i open it . its like wallet.dat

what about the file you ask me about ?

I was looking for this > bluematt-key.pgp but this does not belong to that person I was thinking, at  least this is what I found > the file is part of a software, and the name does not reassemble a person.

The coins you have recovered are yours.

As I said before, open PrivateKeyNotes.md with Notepad.

it can not open with notepad its crpted
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But what about Coins producer/seller? Promo images, addresses, passphrases...


i dont know its like a secrete for me ?

big puzzle for me 
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the xdwallet is not work when i open it . its like wallet.dat

what about the file you ask me about ?

I was looking for this > bluematt-key.pgp but this does not belong to that person I was thinking, at  least this is what I found > the file is part of a software, and the name does not reassemble a person.

The coins you have recovered are yours.

As I said before, open PrivateKeyNotes.md with Notepad.

it can not open with notepad its crpted

How it is crypted? Is it a binary file or text file somehow encoded (base64 etc)?
I think it is all you could do, you should not have any hope for the rest of files.
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i need someone to help me dump all that wallets
and to extract the rar files that inside wallet
wallets 2013/2012/2011
2014/2015

some btc some doge some ltc some darkcoin

wallet files
wallet.dat
some seeds 12 and 18
i already found bitcoin and alot of token and etherum

bounty will be great if he did not want the 20% off all what we found in that wallets

please dont waste your time and my time . i will never send you any wallet



we can talk in telegram @kuw13
 
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i need someone to help me dump all that wallets
and to extract the rar files that inside wallet
wallets 2013/2012/2011
2014/2015

some btc some doge some ltc some darkcoin

wallet files
wallet.dat
some seeds 12 and 18
i already found bitcoin and alot of token and etherum

bounty will be great if he did not want the 20% off all what we found in that wallets

please dont waste your time and my time . i will never send you any wallet



we can talk in telegram @kuw13
 

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i have this wallets from old HD and i keep learning about wallets and crypto for 2 month but did not find away how to check wallets and dump wallets
and how to know what kind of coin this wallet have ?
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i have this wallets from old HD and i keep learning about wallets and crypto for 2 month but did not find away how to check wallets and dump wallets
and how to know what kind of coin this wallet have ?

https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/19589/how-to-determine-what-type-of-coins-a-wallet-dat-contains
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i have this wallets from old HD and i keep learning about wallets and crypto for 2 month but did not find away how to check wallets and dump wallets
and how to know what kind of coin this wallet have ?

https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/19589/how-to-determine-what-type-of-coins-a-wallet-dat-contains


How to dump any wallet !

Wallet.dat
And android wallet
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i have this wallets from old HD and i keep learning about wallets and crypto for 2 month but did not find away how to check wallets and dump wallets
and how to know what kind of coin this wallet have ?

https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/19589/how-to-determine-what-type-of-coins-a-wallet-dat-contains


How to dump any wallet !

Wallet.dat
And android wallet


how to install ?
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i get like 100 address ?

dow can i dump with balance ?
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i get like 100 address ?

dow can i dump with balance ?


Please, slow down. Think what you want to write and then use the full sentences, like in primary school.
Use google translator if you need.
For example:
"I have a Bitcoin Core wallet.dat with a 100 addresses inside. Is there a way to dump all the addresses with balance using one command?"

And then the answer could be: Check the manual of https://github.com/mikeborghi/pywallet or any other fork of pywallet.

Ah - and you may try to use google, duckduckgo, bing or any other search engine before you ask your question. It does not hurt.


Cheers!
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NOTE: make copies of these files before you attempt any sort of import or "wallet dump". Only work on copies of the files!

The sad fact is that there is no "One Size Fits All" solution for extracting keys from all these various files/wallets... You'll need to deal with each one individually based on the file type that you have and the cryptocurrency involved.


- "exodus.wallet" is most likely some export/backup of Exodus, you'd need to inspect the contents of the folder to see what is in there. Possibly import into Exodus wallet directly (https://www.exodus.io/download/) or you will find a list of private keys etc.



- "VeriCoin" / "Verium" wallet here: https://vericoin.info/



- "wallets" and "wallets1": Huh You'd need to look at what is in the folders, could be almost anything




- "bitcoin-wallet-keys-xxxxxx", "darkcoin-wallet-keys-xxxxxx" and "litecoin-wallet-keys-xxxxx" are possibly just text files. Try and open these in a text editor and view the contents. You will then need the appropriate wallets to import the keys. Note that DarkCoin is now "Dash".



- "default_wallet" is likely an Electrum wallet file. Try opening it with the latest version of Electrum: https://electrum.org/#download



- "ethereum-wallet.json" is possibly a MyEtherWallet keystore json file... you can open in a text editor to check, but the keys will likely be encrypted. You should be able to import the .json using MEW or MyCrypto etc.



- all the "*.dat" files look like someone has just renamed "wallet.dat" files... there are ways to see what the coins are by simply opening in a text editor and searching for "name", this should hopefully show you the "Addresses" that are in the wallet.dat. The format of the address should give a hint as to what they might be. ie "1Lfsdf43t...." Bitcoin, "Dfg8gjksdg...." DOGE, "L32hsjkd..." Litecoin etc etc

Here is an example of a Litecoin wallet, searching for the word: name


You can see the addresses starting with "L......."



- "XDN" seems to be a worthless cryptocurrency called "DigitalNote": https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/digitalnote/



- ".rar" files, just try and open with 7zip or WinRAR and see if they contain anything useful. If the ".rar" files have passwords, you'd need to bruteforce the password using the myriad of rar password crackers available (check Google "Rar password cracker")

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i wont send any list  but i will give who help me 10% of what i find in all wallet



gimme a shout.  I might be able to help.  http://www.facebook.com/chadwick.austin.7   cchadwicka@aol.com
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to many guys contact me and all of them zero knowledge about wallet dump and seeds

i will never send you any wallet or seed until you know what are you doing

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October 15, 2020, 11:21:26 AM
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to many guys contact me and all of them zero knowledge about wallet dump and seeds

i will never send you any wallet or seed until you know what are you doing



As I said before, you need to find the passwords for those wallets. I have no free time lately as I told you the kindergarten closed so I have a little zoo at home.
For those .rar there is no other option than bruteforce them, but since you don't know what's inside those wallets could be a waste of time.

HCP told you the same as I told you a few times.

If you know for which coin the wallet file is, then you need to download the appropriate wallet software. Most of the software you already have on the HDD, you need just to install it and recover the wallets, of course you need the passwords too.


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October 22, 2020, 11:34:51 AM
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6 word is : foot ears india flow fell arm
12 word is : foot ears india flow fell arm mm 655 ache yam zw hosco

not the same  only some 6 word starts same 12 word

Are these real words from your notes or just an example?

PS. The whole topic looks like a puzzle - people are trying to find a "method" used to encode recorded 6/12 seeds

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