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Question: Should DigiByte switch from Scrypt to a more ASIC resistant algorithm?
Yes! - 108 (74.5%)
No! - 29 (20%)
Undecided. - 8 (5.5%)
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March 22, 2014, 11:27:48 PM
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With all the recent Scrypt ASIC news we are strongly considering switching DigiByte to a more ASIC resistant algorithm to ensure a more fair mining opportunity for everyone. Our goal since day one is to make sure there is not centralization of hashing power or technology with DigiByte.

Please explain the reason for your vote and if you voted yes please list and provide a link to the algorithm you support.

Also, if anyone has any case studies of a coin hard forking and switching algorithms please post a link.

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March 22, 2014, 11:31:53 PM
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Don't you think it is actually good that scrypt asics are coming? This can only make your network more secure, if you manage to maintain a high hashrate that is.

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March 22, 2014, 11:33:32 PM
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Don't you think it is actually good that scrypt asics are coming? This can only make your network more secure, if you manage to maintain a high hashrate that is.
We have thought about this and we do see some positives to this in the long run. Securing the block chain is very important. We wanted to open this up to the community and see what everyone's consensus was on this.

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March 22, 2014, 11:38:31 PM
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With all the recent Scrypt ASIC news we are strongly considering switching DigiByte to a more ASIC resistant algorithm to ensure a more fair mining opportunity for everyone. Our goal since day one is to make sure there is not centralization of hashing power or technology with DigiByte.

Please explain the reason for your vote and if you voted yes please list and provide a link to the algorithm you support.

Also, if anyone has any case studies of a coin hard forking and switching algorithms please post a link.

switch to X11 algo
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March 22, 2014, 11:41:10 PM
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Undecided, because I'll accept any change which can help to rise the price and nothing more. BTW, It's simple to switch to Scrypt-N, but keccak (from maxcoin) will keep rigs cold, summer is coming.
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March 22, 2014, 11:44:18 PM
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Undecided, because I'll accept any change which can help to rise the price and nothing more. BTW, It's simple to switch to Scrypt-N, but keccak (from maxcoin) will keep rigs cold, summer is coming.
Yes, cooling and electrical savings could be a huge selling point. We are trying to work out the summer cooling issue for our miners as well.

We are looking at potentially modifying Scrypt-N, maybe calling it Scrypt-D or even DigiScrypt?

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March 22, 2014, 11:54:44 PM
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Undecided, because I'll accept any change which can help to rise the price and nothing more. BTW, It's simple to switch to Scrypt-N, but keccak (from maxcoin) will keep rigs cold, summer is coming.
Yes, cooling and electrical savings could be a huge selling point. We are trying to work out the summer cooling issue for our miners as well.

We are looking at potentially modifying Scrypt-N, maybe calling it Scrypt-D or even DigiScrypt?

I don't think it's wise. Scrypt-N already well known, tested, accepted by miners. It's good enough to fight ASICs. Necessary and sufficient.
WTB, sgminer will support scrypt-n out of the box soon.

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March 22, 2014, 11:59:38 PM
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Voting for x-11
GPU's are cooler, very hard for asics.
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March 23, 2014, 12:01:44 AM
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Undecided, because I'll accept any change which can help to rise the price and nothing more. BTW, It's simple to switch to Scrypt-N, but keccak (from maxcoin) will keep rigs cold, summer is coming.
Yes, cooling and electrical savings could be a huge selling point. We are trying to work out the summer cooling issue for our miners as well.

We are looking at potentially modifying Scrypt-N, maybe calling it Scrypt-D or even DigiScrypt?

I don't think it's wise. Scrypt-N already well known, tested, accepted by miners. It's good enough to fight ASICs. Necessary and sufficient.
WTB, sgminer will support scrypt-n out of the box soon.


Very good point Sammy, having mining software that works is important!

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March 23, 2014, 12:02:18 AM
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Voting for x-11
GPU's are cooler, very hard for asics.
Does x-11 work with CGMiner? Or is there special mining software required?

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March 23, 2014, 12:06:06 AM
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Voting for x-11
GPU's are cooler, very hard for asics.

What about botnets?
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March 23, 2014, 12:06:49 AM
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Voting for x-11
GPU's are cooler, very hard for asics.
Does x-11 work with CGMiner? Or is there special mining software required?

There is a fork of sgminer.

sph-sgminer https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=516349.0
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March 23, 2014, 12:08:19 AM
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I am afraid price drop. I am holding like a special kind of idiot, just missed high prices.
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March 23, 2014, 12:12:13 AM
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Voting for x-11
GPU's are cooler, very hard for asics.
Does x-11 work with CGMiner? Or is there special mining software required?

It uses Sgminer.

 x11 uses the following for  hashing, blake, bmw, groestl, jh, keccak, skein, luffa, cubehash, shavite, simd and echo.



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March 23, 2014, 12:12:27 AM
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Voting for x-11
GPU's are cooler, very hard for asics.

What about botnets?
GPU botnets, or CPU botnets with x-11?

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March 23, 2014, 12:16:04 AM
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What sort of hash rates to you see with X11 & Scrypt-N is it about the same as Scrypt? Or is their a reduction in hash output?

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March 23, 2014, 12:16:25 AM
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Voting for x-11
GPU's are cooler, very hard for asics.

What about botnets?
GPU botnets, or CPU botnets with x-11?

High end CPU's get the same average return as GPU's.

Not sure about low end CPU's though, never tried it.
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March 23, 2014, 12:17:24 AM
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What sort of hash rates to you see with X11 & Scrypt-N is it about the same as Scrypt? Or is their a reduction in hash output?

Never bothered with Scrypy-N, But with x11 I get the following:

1.8 mh/s on an Asus 7970
1.24 mh/s on a R9-270
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March 23, 2014, 12:20:49 AM
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Voting for x-11
GPU's are cooler, very hard for asics.

What about botnets?
GPU botnets, or CPU botnets with x-11?

CPU. Probably I fall asleep...
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March 23, 2014, 12:21:26 AM
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What sort of hash rates to you see with X11 & Scrypt-N is it about the same as Scrypt? Or is their a reduction in hash output?

Never bothered with Scrypy-N, But with x11 I get the following:

1.8 mh/s on an Asus 7970
1.24 mh/s on a R9-270

it doesn't matter
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