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September 01, 2025, 10:52:32 AM
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Also there's good chance that JD Vance will be Trump successor since he's early favorite to assume the office after Trumps administration ends https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5477141-republican-candidates-2028-election/ So if it happens that JD Vance will win there's huge chance that Bitcoin will still be in good situation.

For me, the most important thing would be for this to become a non-partisan issue and for the main crypto companies to lobby to convince the Democratic Party as well, so that if it wins in the future, it will forget about the madness of CBDCs and continue with a policy favorable to cryptocurrencies. Mainly Bitcoin, but I think dollar-pegged stablecoins can also be important for the US. I don't care about shitcoins, but I think they will be included in the lobbying.

That man gives me the creeps, because there is something extremely evil about him and I think he would just be an even more extreme version of the person who is president today. However, if he continues current policy, he will be supported by all those who think that he is good for business, regardless of all the other negativity that can (and very likely will) result from his possible victory in the next elections.

He gives you the creeps because of your prejudice. He's a guy who had everything stacked against him, who grew up in a poor environment surrounded by poverty and drug addiction, in a hillbilly area, and has become vice president of the United States. That's why the Democrats and the left hate him. He didn't buy into the victim narrative and wait for the state to solve his life by giving him welfare or something like that. To top it all off, his wife is Indian and his children are mixed race.

For you, better the mummy who didn't even know what she was signing, who was going to implement CBDCs, or the woman who made a fool of herself repeatedly during the election campaign.

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September 01, 2025, 06:47:03 PM
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Isn't it already implemented in a way that these strategic reserves will be filled with Bitcoin (and altcoins) that will be the result of seizures? I don't see any positive effect on the price, quite the opposite, given that the authorities can at any time say that what was yours is now theirs under any pretext.
I think I would really consider it an implementation if they choose to start buying rather by seizing
If not they should just end the Bitcoin as a strategic reserve narrative
Because using seized coins shows lack of confidence.


For me, the most important thing would be for this to become a non-partisan issue and for the main crypto companies to lobby to convince the Democratic Party as well, so that if it wins in the future, it will forget about the madness of CBDCs and continue with a policy favorable to cryptocurrencies. Mainly Bitcoin, but I think dollar-pegged stablecoins can also be important for the US. I don't care about shitcoins, but I think they will be included in the lobbying.

It just goes to show that Bitcoin needs the government to survive
And could give them a upper hand during a supposed negotiation
If they can't see it themselves then convincing would just make Bitcoin look weaker.
Unfortunately Bitcoin has now being linked to politics.

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September 02, 2025, 12:06:45 PM
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MICHAEL SAYLOR'S STRATEGY JUST BOUGHT 4048 MORE #BITCOIN
HE IS GOING FOR 1 MILLION BTC 🔥


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Strategy has acquired 4,048 BTC for ~$449.3 million at ~$110,981 per bitcoin and has achieved BTC Yield of 25.7% YTD 2025. As of 9/1/2025, we hodl 636,505 $BTC acquired for ~$46.95 billion at ~$73,765 per bitcoin.

https://x.com/saylor/status/1962849375824040406?t=ut3Zb8C8WZCSFIXR_SPuMA&s=19

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Two days ago, Michael Saylor made some advance announcements about investing in Bitcoin in his official X account. Immediately after making the announcement, he increased the strategic reserve of Bitcoin in his portfolio. After making the announcement on his official Twitter account, Michael Saylor today purchased 4048 Bitcoins, with each Bitcoin having a purchase price of $110,997.
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September 02, 2025, 01:06:40 PM
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Could someone point me to the difference in the following two posts? I know it is possible I am overlooking something here, but since I know that originality is a serious topic on Bitcointalk, what is this?



Strategy has acquired 4,048 BTC for ~$449.3 million at ~$110,981 per bitcoin and has achieved BTC Yield of 25.7% YTD 2025. As of 9/1/2025, we hodl 636,505 $BTC acquired for ~$46.95 billion at ~$73,765 per bitcoin.

https://x.com/saylor/status/1962849375824040406?t=ut3Zb8C8WZCSFIXR_SPuMA&s=19

Strategy acquires 4,048 BTC for $449.3 million at $110,981 per bitcoin. MicroStrategy's long-standing effort is set to be approved under the MSTR SP&500 next Friday, and ahead of this approval, MicroStrategy has purchased 4048 new Bitcoins.



Strategy has acquired 4,048 BTC for ~$449.3 million at ~$110,981 per bitcoin and has achieved BTC Yield of 25.7% YTD 2025. As of 9/1/2025, we hodl 636,505 $BTC acquired for ~$46.95 billion at ~$73,765 per bitcoin.

https://x.com/saylor/status/1962849375824040406?t=__iszqg-HYhbdhI_gf2x0Q&s=19

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September 02, 2025, 01:50:08 PM
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He gives you the creeps because of your prejudice. He's a guy who had everything stacked against him, who grew up in a poor environment surrounded by poverty and drug addiction, in a hillbilly area, and has become vice president of the United States. That's why the Democrats and the left hate him. He didn't buy into the victim narrative and wait for the state to solve his life by giving him welfare or something like that. To top it all off, his wife is Indian and his children are mixed race.

For you, better the mummy who didn't even know what she was signing, who was going to implement CBDCs, or the woman who made a fool of herself repeatedly during the election campaign.


You obviously like such characters and find something positive in them, but I see pure evil in them, manifesting itself in many ways. I don't care at all how he got to that position, but there isn't a single person in that entire administration who knows or can do anything for that country. A larger group of clowns will hardly ever be seen again at such important functions.

For your information, I do not have a positive opinion about the other side so that there is no confusion. In the long term, all this that the current US administration is doing will do great harm to them personally, but unfortunately also to the majority of the world.

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September 02, 2025, 01:51:42 PM
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Could someone point me to the difference in the following two posts? I know it is possible I am overlooking something here, but since I know that originality is a serious topic on Bitcointalk, what is this?
I didn't see any difference between the two posts. The second post was published 4 minutes and 23 seconds after the first one (quite close). Maybe @HelliumZ didn't preview his post before posting.

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September 02, 2025, 02:14:46 PM
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Could someone point me to the difference in the following two posts? I know it is possible I am overlooking something here, but since I know that originality is a serious topic on Bitcointalk, what is this?

Basically, the second one could be reported if you feel like it because he is posting repeated information and probably trying to fish for merit.

On the other hand, we continue with relatively few purchases compared to what Saylor had us accustomed to, but if he continues to make purchases of this size, he will far exceed the expected profitability, which has been revised upward twice.

You obviously like such characters and find something positive in them, but I see pure evil in them, manifesting itself in many ways. I don't care at all how he got to that position, but there isn't a single person in that entire administration who knows or can do anything for that country. A larger group of clowns will hardly ever be seen again at such important functions.

For your information, I do not have a positive opinion about the other side so that there is no confusion. In the long term, all this that the current US administration is doing will do great harm to them personally, but unfortunately also to the majority of the world.

You won't have a positive opinion of the other side, but I only see you criticizing the right side. Yes, Vance, apart from his personal history, I see it as very positive that he has told off all the European leaders for the garbage policies that are destroying Europe. Mass immigration, statism, woke politics, censorship, over-regulation, and so on.

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Could someone point me to the difference in the following two posts? I know it is possible I am overlooking something here, but since I know that originality is a serious topic on Bitcointalk, what is this?
I didn't see any difference between the two posts. The second post was published 4 minutes and 23 seconds after the first one (quite close). Maybe @HelliumZ didn't preview his post before posting.
Honestly, everyone waits to post here and I'm no exception. I follow Michael Saylor's Twitter page and have notifications turned on, so I couldn't check any previews and post here as soon as I saw the post. I was in a hurry and didn't notice the previous posts, which is why a similar post has been made here. This has been the cause of my haste, for which I apologize.

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Strategy will follow a rules-based monthly dividend framework for $STRC.
MSTR



In a couple of weeks we will have the first dividend payment.
Given the current price, we could expect a slight rise in yield.
I think this is by far the best investment in the MSTR offering for the risk adverse.
Also wondering how much the success of this class of  shares has to do with the apparen lag in the MSTR share price.

We finally got the raise we deserved:



Given the poor performances for STRC, they raised annual yield by 100 bps.

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Could someone point me to the difference in the following two posts? I know it is possible I am overlooking something here, but since I know that originality is a serious topic on Bitcointalk, what is this?
I didn't see any difference between the two posts. The second post was published 4 minutes and 23 seconds after the first one (quite close). Maybe @HelliumZ didn't preview his post before posting.
Honestly, everyone waits to post here and I'm no exception. I follow Michael Saylor's Twitter page and have notifications turned on, so I couldn't check any previews and post here as soon as I saw the post. I was in a hurry and didn't notice the previous posts, which is why a similar post has been made here. This has been the cause of my haste, for which I apologize.

I will withdrawal my post.

I don't want to distract from the real topic here, but when you say you posted a similar post because you didn't check beforehand, I have a different feeling here, but you know, I am too lazy to dig into it:

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Strategy has acquired 4,048 BTC for ~$449.3 million at ~$110,981 per bitcoin and has achieved BTC Yield of 25.7% YTD 2025. As of 9/1/2025, we hodl 636,505 $BTC acquired for ~$46.95 billion at ~$73,765 per bitcoin.

https://x.com/saylor/status/1962849375824040406?t=ut3Zb8C8WZCSFIXR_SPuMA&s=19

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Strategy has acquired 4,048 BTC for ~$449.3 million at ~$110,981 per bitcoin and has achieved BTC Yield of 25.7% YTD 2025. As of 9/1/2025, we hodl 636,505 $BTC acquired for ~$46.95 billion at ~$73,765 per bitcoin.

https://x.com/saylor/status/1962849375824040406?t=__iszqg-HYhbdhI_gf2x0Q&s=19

If you call this a "similar" post because of a lack of prior research, I recommend trying to find out whether GIF-JOBS is your twin brother or sister Wink

Edit: it was the worst of explanations you could have chosen... "similar post because you didn't check"... ok...

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Given the poor performances for STRC, they raised annual yield by 100 bps.

Poor performances?

It may be a poor return for what was expected, but a security that was launched on July 29 for $90, which in just over a month, with little volatility as it is August, is trading at almost $98, I would not call a poor return. That return within the markets it is trying to compete with, such as coupon-paying bonds or stable companies that pay dividends, is huge, massive.

What I think Saylor wants to do is accelerate the arrival of the price at $100 because from there on, everything that goes up will be sold in STRC ATMs to replace MSTR ATMs.

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Peter Thiel vs. Michael Saylor: Crypto treasury bet or bubble?
Tech billionaires Peter Thiel and Michael Saylor have different approaches to crypto, which are reflected in how they invest in the space.

Tech billionaires Peter Thiel and Michael Saylor are establishing crypto company treasuries, but some financial observers note that their strategies could pose significant risk.

Both Thiel and Saylor have poured substantial capital into cryptocurrencies through their respective firms and investment vehicles: Saylor, with his software firm Strategy’s frequent Bitcoin
 buys, and Thiel, through venture capital investments in crypto firms, and his exchange, Bullish, which went public earlier in August.

Source link: https://cointelegraph.com/news/peter-thiel-michael-saylor-crypto-treasury-bet-bubble


Of these two people, Michael Saylor's Bitcoin investment is the best, which is loved by every investor. You look and think that hundreds of treasury companies are holding Bitcoin just by looking at the Bitcoin holding of the MSTR company. It is possible to achieve the fastest success with Bitcoin alone, as an example, Michael Saylor's Bitcoin policy and strategy are followed by all people.

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Peter Thiel vs. Michael Saylor: Crypto treasury bet or bubble?
Tech billionaires Peter Thiel and Michael Saylor have different approaches to crypto, which are reflected in how they invest in the space.

Tech billionaires Peter Thiel and Michael Saylor are establishing crypto company treasuries, but some financial observers note that their strategies could pose significant risk.

Both Thiel and Saylor have poured substantial capital into cryptocurrencies through their respective firms and investment vehicles: Saylor, with his software firm Strategy’s frequent Bitcoin
 buys, and Thiel, through venture capital investments in crypto firms, and his exchange, Bullish, which went public earlier in August.
Source link: https://cointelegraph.com/news/peter-thiel-michael-saylor-crypto-treasury-bet-bubble

Of these two people, Michael Saylor's Bitcoin investment is the best, which is loved by every investor. You look and think that hundreds of treasury companies are holding Bitcoin just by looking at the Bitcoin holding of the MSTR company. It is possible to achieve the fastest success with Bitcoin alone, as an example, Michael Saylor's Bitcoin policy and strategy are followed by all people.

That is interesting if they might be considered to be competing against one another.

Saylor mostly bitcoin based and Thiel diversifying into various tech sector ideas that include bitcoin, ether and some various other companies and projects. Maybe Thiel's fund is also going to be more actively managed in terms of getting in and out and Saylor will be attempting to continue to add to just bitcoin or bitcoin derivatives that his company creates.

Let's see how it goes.. especially if we might look at a cycle or two down the road.. and whether they are building and/or growing at similar rates or different rates.

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Let's see how it goes.. especially if we might look at a cycle or two down the road.. and whether they are building and/or growing at similar rates or different rates.
I read further in the link shared and it seems he's skeptical towards Bitcoin
Thinking it might be an attack on the US Fiat by the Chinese
This shows he's likely in for the quick profit and would bolt during a winter.

Diversification existing in Same industry doesn't mean much, if anything happens to Bitcoin they all suffer more
Hence Strategy seems less risky. His only strength is he can choose to take profits anytime.

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Let's see how it goes.. especially if we might look at a cycle or two down the road.. and whether they are building and/or growing at similar rates or different rates.
I read further in the link shared and it seems he's skeptical towards Bitcoin
Thinking it might be an attack on the US Fiat by the Chinese
This shows he's likely in for the quick profit and would bolt during a winter.

Diversification existing in Same industry doesn't mean much, if anything happens to Bitcoin they all suffer more
Hence Strategy seems less risky. His only strength is he can choose to take profits anytime.

If we look at the article, the difference between them lies in how they obtain funding, even though they appear to be similar, and their perspectives on crypto itself. Saylor has been more focused on Bitcoin in his investments as far as we know, while Saylor and his company only collect Bitcoin and Thiel has a diversified approach to crypto assets. These are two different paths, of course.

Looking at the entire cycle, if we calculate the profits from Bitcoin's journey, Saylor is safer than Thiel. The facts prove that Bitcoin always sets a new ATH every cycle, while Altcoin projects cannot be expected in the long term. However, when it comes to Stablecoin business, it is quite decent if we look at the stock aspect. Thiel has a perspective on this and decided to support PYUSD, which, to be honest, we know is heading toward optimism in payment services because PayPal already has a wide market. Maybe he is thinking about that. This tends to be safe, but if other crypto assets are based on narratives, we know that they will eventually become worthless, and that is not a good choice to include in diversification.

However, what we don't know is when they will sell, both Saylor and Thiel, because for a company to be profitable, there needs to be recorded profits, so it's certain that they won't hold on to all their Bitcoin until they die. They will definitely sell, but we won't know when that will be.
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However, what we don't know is when they will sell, both Saylor and Thiel, because for a company to be profitable, there needs to be recorded profits, so it's certain that they won't hold on to all their Bitcoin until they die. They will definitely sell, but we won't know when that will be.
Now this is the thing. Strategy is built to rely on Bitcoin and be a treasury company which shouldn't sell
Cause if they do, it means they plan on going out of business because it's going to affect investors confidence
They would gain more from just holding and accumulating for now. Maybe in the future they may choose to use the coins for other service rather than service
Maybe a lending service with interest. Anything can happen but for now they are and need to keep holding.

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However, what we don't know is when they will sell, both Saylor and Thiel, because for a company to be profitable, there needs to be recorded profits, so it's certain that they won't hold on to all their Bitcoin until they die. They will definitely sell, but we won't know when that will be.
Now this is the thing. Strategy is built to rely on Bitcoin and be a treasury company which shouldn't sell
Cause if they do, it means they plan on going out of business because it's going to affect investors confidence
They would gain more from just holding and accumulating for now. Maybe in the future they may choose to use the coins for other service rather than service
Maybe a lending service with interest. Anything can happen but for now they are and need to keep holding.

If the goal is to have long-term business innovation in bitcoin, whether it be a product or service, then the main requirement in utilizing their bitcoin is that they must continue to hold it, and that becomes their main obligation.

By owning bitcoin, they gain strong public trust to start a business, but the further away the type of business is, the more questions there will be about its management.
Or will they simply be strong long-term Bitcoin holders? In my opinion, I think they will sell it, even though we don't know that for sure, but not their entire holdings. Perhaps only a small portion of their holdings will be sold over the next two or three decades.

Rationality is also needed to look at this in terms of the probability of actions that will be taken.
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However, what we don't know is when they will sell, both Saylor and Thiel, because for a company to be profitable, there needs to be recorded profits, so it's certain that they won't hold on to all their Bitcoin until they die. They will definitely sell, but we won't know when that will be.
Now this is the thing. Strategy is built to rely on Bitcoin and be a treasury company which shouldn't sell
Cause if they do, it means they plan on going out of business because it's going to affect investors confidence
They would gain more from just holding and accumulating for now. Maybe in the future they may choose to use the coins for other service rather than service
Maybe a lending service with interest. Anything can happen but for now they are and need to keep holding.

If the goal is to have long-term business innovation in bitcoin, whether it be a product or service, then the main requirement in utilizing their bitcoin is that they must continue to hold it, and that becomes their main obligation.

By owning bitcoin, they gain strong public trust to start a business, but the further away the type of business is, the more questions there will be about its management.
Or will they simply be strong long-term Bitcoin holders? In my opinion, I think they will sell it, even though we don't know that for sure, but not their entire holdings. Perhaps only a small portion of their holdings will be sold over the next two or three decades.

Rationality is also needed to look at this in terms of the probability of actions that will be taken.

I agree with your comment. As you said selling some part of the holding. Selling a person's holding until the end of his term will never be the right method or the right decision for his investment. As @jj says about gaining some part of the investment. When your investment earns 2 times the amount of your invested money, then you can withdraw some amount and enjoy the profit. If you want to enjoy by selling some amount of holding or investment before the end of your investment term, then you can adopt this method. It will never be the right decision for a person to sell the entire amount of holding. Even if a person's term ends, it will not be the right decision to sell his entire holding. It is okay to withdraw the amount he needs but it is never right to withdraw the entire holding.
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