Constant Harrasment By BitcoinEXpress - I am Leaving this site because of it!

[samson]

WOW! I don't even know what all this is about and never heard of BCX before, but all I can say is, you are a whiny little bitch aren't you. I thought Edisoncoin was the whiniest bitch, but you put the cherry on top.

Bitch ? Cherry on top ? WTF

Go away child.

[Infectiphibian]

Lol this thread is getting ridiculous.

I'm not sure at what point it was meant to be taken serious.  

[Raize]

Of all the things that someone can do on the Internet, posting an "I'm leaving this forum" thread on the Internet is probably the daftest.

[Infectiphibian]

WOW! I don't even know what all this is about and never heard of BCX before, but all I can say is, you are a whiny little bitch aren't you. I thought Edisoncoin was the whiniest bitch, but you put the cherry on top.

Bitch ? Cherry on top ? WTF

Go away child.

Yes, Father. 

[Minor Miner]

You call it FUD, I call it his opinion, which he's entitled to. And being an asshole isn't an actionable offense, or I would have been banned a long time ago.

And if those had been the only posts you made, I'd be inclined to agree they weren't spam, but they weren't. You can't remove the context of you spamming a bunch of different threads, then claim that a particular post isn't spam just because it might be relevant. It's still spam.

If everyone who acted like an ass was banned, this would not be a forum anymore.   It would be down to one man, talking to himself (and I know when I talk to myself too much I sometimes act like an asshole so it is possible that it could be a forum with no members)

[jonnysomething]

You dont get it man, I am trying to run a business online and someone is deliberatly taking food out of my mouth by threatening to DDoS or take my site down, not to mention spreading FUD about a coin I am heavily invested in. I have been trying to build DGC back up ever since the price drop in early feb/march by getting involved in the community and instead of reaping benefits I am getting shit on by someone that has it out for a dev that didnt even do anything to him specificly.

I can understand your frustration, but I guess what I'm saying is BCX having it out for the dev of your coin was likely not caused by him just deciding to pick on the guy. He has reasons, and if he can't prove them then yeah, I do have this all wrong. But as far as I can tell at one point people asked for proof, he provided it and people just continued to shit on him and call him a liar. When you put a lot of effort in to something and people shit on it, you're going to put less effort in to it next time and I think that's where he might be at on this subject.

And I have tried to contact/communicate with BCX, I have tried ignoring him, I have tried just moving on with my business and I get followed around to my other threads. I am not a negative person, I am just on the defensive all the time now because INSTEAD of opening a business in a fair market and getting people to come and use my site I have to constantly be defending every god damn word I say all because I gave my opinion in a thread about the currency I like the most. When I started posting I was only giving my opinion then I started getting attacked, personally and professionally.

I am sorry that he ignored your PM's - perhaps he is immature, or just grew tired of what he saw as an immature attitude from you.

Part of the fair and open market you're trying to start a business in, is that you are open to criticism and competition stacking the deck in their favor. Do I think this is what BCX is doing? Personally, no. But you have to understand that it is his right in this open market to do that.

People have attacked me online and I generally come out unscathed because if they're upset, bias, irrational or lying, it will show in their posts. If you check out my thread in my sig, some guy tried to derail the thread accusing me of a bunch of self-serving bullshit... I responded to everything he had to say and left him with no argument aside from repeating the same baseless shit. Since that argument people have contacted me regarding working together and investments. Had I freaked out, it would have tarnished my rep and got me nowhere.

I would love nothing more than to be able to put all this shit behind me and move on with my poker site www.dgcpoker.net  and I do appoligize for jumping down your throat on this shit, but everytime I get a reply in this thread it seems someone is either calling me a scammer (which I am definatly not, ask anyone at all in the #digitalcoin IRC chat room) or saying I am a moron. When I read what you posted I read it as "your a scammer piece of shit and you deserve what BCX is doing to you" BECAUSE I am constantly on the defensive on this board.

I appreciate the apology. I have no interested in fueling anyone's fire and simply want to see this community grow. My actual suggestion to you is to contact BCX again and see what coins he suggests. You have enough skill to create DGCpoker, why not use those skills on another coin that is supported by senior members of this forum for actual reasons? I understand DGC means a lot to you, but maybe it's not the coin of the future and in the end, that's what matters.

Anyways. I don't want to deal with this shit anymore, it's hard enough to manage my site/build new features for it AND try to do marketing for it as well. I would really like to not deal with forum fights anymore.

So this is a PUBLIC "you stop your shit, and ill stop mine" from me to BCX. I already sent you a PM, but in case you didn't read it, here it is again!

I would recommend you hire a PR person. You're heavily invested in to DGC, so you're going to spend time defending it to people not interested in DGC rather than promoting your product to people that are.

[MP5KU]

This is a good laugh

[jonnysomething]

As I said before good luck trying to discuss anything with him like an adult. If he has his mind set on something he doesn't listen to reason or valid arguments.

Just because I've only started posting here recently doesn't mean I haven't been reading the posts in this site for a looong time. I have been following Cryptocurrencies for a long time so don't automatically side with someone just because they have been on this site "longer" than anyone else. I know alot more than you think. Maybe if you read some of his past history and long list of DDOS threats, unfounded, speculative claims you wouldn't be so quick to take what he says as gospel.

You have a very ignorant underlying tone. I think anyone here can see that I do not follow BCX's word as gospel. My opinion was formed based on my observations of this forum, but please don't act like having a 3+ year rep on this forum is irrelevant. I read through some of his post history last time you or someone else suggested I do that, and to be honest, I didn't find any one calling him down as a scammer and shit.

While I do like what DGC and its community are working in for the long term future of it in regards to services and real world useability they are not the only coin I support, PPC and NMC being just two other examples. Lol you are kidding yourself if you are 100% certain that the DGC dev was acting shady, you have no verifiable proof and thus this would not stand up in court one iota. How can we take you seriously when you talk speculative nonsense like that? First have some 100% solid proof before you go supporting unfounded allegations.

Where did I say I was 100% certain? Where did I say anyone was scamming? I'm not supporting "unfounded allegations", I'm simply stating my opinion in this argument.

Yeah BCX is quite qualified in bullying, harassing and deconstructive behaviour generally.

That'll hold up in court.

You might not have called the site directly a scam but you alluded in your posts that he was engaged in scamming which is once again nonsense and unproven. Guilty of spamming yes, scamming no.

No. I did not. No matter how many ways you say it, I did not. At most, I said that if senior members of this forum are calling something a scam, it's probably a scam. You're being overly defensive.

[greyhawk]

oh, a legit poker site

i wonder how much your future prison boyfriend will like that

[justice4all]

You have a very ignorant underlying tone. I think anyone here can see that I do not follow BCX's word as gospel. My opinion was formed based on my observations of this forum, but please don't act like having a 3+ year rep on this forum is irrelevant. I read through some of his post history last time you or someone else suggested I do that, and to be honest, I didn't find any one calling him down as a scammer and shit.

You came in with a very rude and combatative tone in your initial post. Obviously you didn't look very hard maybe not a scammer but definitely a bully by way of threatening/partaking in DDOS attacks from way back. Nice guy lol.

Where did I say I was 100% certain? Where did I say anyone was scamming? I'm not supporting "unfounded allegations", I'm simply stating my opinion in this argument.

That'll hold up in court.

More evidence to back my claims about BCX being an obnoxious bully than your "BCX is doing people a service by following people around trying to get money out of other peoples pockets" nonsense. I guess he may as well chase Satoshi Dice and every other Crypto gaming site on the net too lol.

No. I did not. No matter how many ways you say it, I did not. At most, I said that if senior members of this forum are calling something a scam, it's probably a scam. You're being overly defensive.

Ok let me rephrase where did the mods call him a scammer and even if they did where is thier proof? I only heard them calling him out for spam which is fair enough. What I don't get is why BCX was never pulled up for his repeated spam posts accusing the DGC dev of this robbery story stuff, which he has still failed to prove yet tries to make out its 100% verified which it is not.

[inthemoney25]

You have a very ignorant underlying tone. I think anyone here can see that I do not follow BCX's word as gospel. My opinion was formed based on my observations of this forum, but please don't act like having a 3+ year rep on this forum is irrelevant. I read through some of his post history last time you or someone else suggested I do that, and to be honest, I didn't find any one calling him down as a scammer and shit.

You came in with a very rude and combatative tone in your initial post. Obviously you didn't look very hard maybe not a scammer but definitely a bully by way of threatening/partaking in DDOS attacks from way back. Nice guy lol.

Where did I say I was 100% certain? Where did I say anyone was scamming? I'm not supporting "unfounded allegations", I'm simply stating my opinion in this argument.

That'll hold up in court.

More evidence to back my claims about BCX being an obnoxious bully than your "BCX is doing people a service by following people around trying to get money out of other peoples pockets" nonsense. I guess he may as well chase Satoshi Dice and every other Crypto gaming site on the net too lol.

No. I did not. No matter how many ways you say it, I did not. At most, I said that if senior members of this forum are calling something a scam, it's probably a scam. You're being overly defensive.

Ok let me rephrase where did the mods call him a scammer and even if they did where is thier proof? I only heard them calling him out for spam which is fair enough. What I don't get is why BCX was never pulled up for his repeated spam posts accusing the DGC dev of this robbery story stuff, which he has still failed to prove yet tries to make out its 100% verified which it is not.

 I was trying to appologize but if you can't see that than I guess I wasted my time giving a shit about what you think. Noted that you can't be talked to, and I promise I won't do it again

[jonnysomething]

You have a very ignorant underlying tone. I think anyone here can see that I do not follow BCX's word as gospel. My opinion was formed based on my observations of this forum, but please don't act like having a 3+ year rep on this forum is irrelevant. I read through some of his post history last time you or someone else suggested I do that, and to be honest, I didn't find any one calling him down as a scammer and shit.

You came in with a very rude and combatative tone in your initial post. Obviously you didn't look very hard maybe not a scammer but definitely a bully by way of threatening/partaking in DDOS attacks from way back. Nice guy lol.

Where did I say I was 100% certain? Where did I say anyone was scamming? I'm not supporting "unfounded allegations", I'm simply stating my opinion in this argument.

That'll hold up in court.

More evidence to back my claims about BCX being an obnoxious bully than your "BCX is doing people a service by following people around trying to get money out of other peoples pockets" nonsense. I guess he may as well chase Satoshi Dice and every other Crypto gaming site on the net too lol.

No. I did not. No matter how many ways you say it, I did not. At most, I said that if senior members of this forum are calling something a scam, it's probably a scam. You're being overly defensive.

Ok let me rephrase where did the mods call him a scammer and even if they did where is thier proof? I only heard them calling him out for spam which is fair enough. What I don't get is why BCX was never pulled up for his repeated spam posts accusing the DGC dev of this robbery story stuff, which he has still failed to prove yet tries to make out its 100% verified which it is not.

 I was trying to appologize but if you can't see that than I guess I wasted my time giving a shit about what you think. Noted that you can't be talked to, and I promise I won't do it again

I have no idea who's responding to who.

[jonnysomething]

You came in with a very rude and combatative tone in your initial post. Obviously you didn't look very hard maybe not a scammer but definitely a bully by way of threatening/partaking in DDOS attacks from way back. Nice guy lol.

No I didn't. I wasn't rude or combative. Go reread the post. Disagreeing with you doesn't make me rude.
"Obviously you didn't look very hard maybe not a scammer" so you're telling me I didn't look hard for him scamming, but that he's not a scammer, just a bully?

More evidence to back my claims about BCX being an obnoxious bully than your "BCX is doing people a service by following people around trying to get money out of other peoples pockets" nonsense. I guess he may as well chase Satoshi Dice and every other Crypto gaming site on the net too lol.

What evidence? You're hardly even making sense now. You stroking out man?

Ok let me rephrase where did the mods call him a scammer and even if they did where is thier proof? I only heard them calling him out for spam which is fair enough.

I didn't say they did. However, BCX does claim to have posted proof so if you dig through his history long enough you might find it.
I said "if senior members", I did NOT say "the mods say it's a scam"

What I don't get is why BCX was never pulled up for his repeated spam posts accusing the DGC dev of this robbery story stuff, which he has still failed to prove yet tries to make out its 100% verified which it is not.

Him saying the DGC is a scam in DGC threads is NOT spam. That's why.
It's relevant discussion, whether you like it or not.

If you don't like the rules, leave.

[justice4all]

No I didn't. I wasn't rude or combative. Go reread the post. Disagreeing with you doesn't make me rude.
"Obviously you didn't look very hard maybe not a scammer" so you're telling me I didn't look hard for him scamming, but that he's not a scammer, just a bully?

Oh really then what do you call what you posted earlier?  Let me paste it below. I consider that tone rude and combatitive. I see you may be suffering some sort of memory loss disorder?

"BCX is doing this community a service by following around people who are just trying to get money out of other people's pockets. If your coin sucks so fucking much that one members opinion of it can destroy the value, it doesn't have a chance at surviving. If you're being followed around by senior members of this forum being called a scammer, you're probably partaking in some sketchy bullshit, whether you're aware of it or not. You say he shouldn't be allowed to call down whatever coins he wants... what fucked up oppressed country do you live in? YOU WILL NEVER SEE THAT HAPPEN HERE."

What evidence? You're hardly even making sense now. You stroking out man?

Yeah nice illogical response yourself there. Go and look it up in his post history. Many people know how many posts he has made threatening or actually admitting he has DDOS'd sites before and bullied people.

I didn't say they did. However, BCX does claim to have posted proof so if you dig through his history long enough you might find it.
I said "if senior members", I did NOT say "the mods say it's a scam"

Lol your going around in circles trying to muddy the waters. There is NO proof I've read the whole thread numerous times, why don't you produce it seeing as you seem to believe it. I bet you can't find any because it DOESN'T exist.

Him saying the DGC is a scam in DGC threads is NOT spam. That's why.
It's relevant discussion, whether you like it or not.

Do you even know what spam is?? It is spam when BCX makes up multiple threads about it which he did do.

If you don't like the rules, leave.

Lol what the hell are you talking about I merely questioned why one person gets pulled up for spam and another person who does the same thing gets off scot free. Valid question.

[techbytes]

justice4all,

Don't waste your time with these guys.  They are just BCX left and right nuts, sucking him hard for some brownie points.


-tb-

[freedomno1]

being an asshole isn't an actionable offense, or I would have been banned a long time ago.

Ah Badbear if only Teasing

[jonnysomething]

Oh really then what do you call what you posted earlier?  Let me paste it below. I consider that tone rude and combatitive. I see you may be suffering some sort of memory loss disorder?

"BCX is doing this community a service by following around people who are just trying to get money out of other people's pockets. If your coin sucks so fucking much that one members opinion of it can destroy the value, it doesn't have a chance at surviving. If you're being followed around by senior members of this forum being called a scammer, you're probably partaking in some sketchy bullshit, whether you're aware of it or not. You say he shouldn't be allowed to call down whatever coins he wants... what fucked up oppressed country do you live in? YOU WILL NEVER SEE THAT HAPPEN HERE."

In what part of that post was I rude to you? I stand by every word I said there, and they were not said in anger.

Yeah nice illogical response yourself there. Go and look it up in his post history. Many people know how many posts he has made threatening or actually admitting he has DDOS'd sites before and bullied people.

I'm not denying the threats of DDOS and intimidation, I never did anywhere. I simply didn't know what you were going on about in that part of your post.

Lol your going around in circles trying to muddy the waters. There is NO proof I've read the whole thread numerous times, why don't you produce it seeing as you seem to believe it. I bet you can't find any because it DOESN'T exist.

No, I'm not. I'm simply explaining why I don't think BCX is what you're making him out to be. I don't care if DGC flops or succeeds. I don't care if BCX stays or gets banned. I don't care if you stop coming to this forum. I am simply stating my opinion as formed by reading this forum.  I haven't had him chasing me around calling me a scam artist, so obviously my opinion of him is going to be more positive than yours. He claimed to supply evidence, if it was debunked... that's cool! Post that here. Don't just randomly complain with no evidence.

Do you even know what spam is?? It is spam when BCX makes up multiple threads about it which he did do.

Yes, I do. But in case you don't:
spam

1. irrelevant or inappropriate messages sent on the Internet to a large number of recipients

You personally viewing his comments as inappropriate because you're highly invested in the product he's calling down does not make them spam. That would mean that any person who ever posted in a thread saying a coin was a scam and the reason why was spamming - which they are not. If you feel his comments are spam, report them and let the moderators decide. Otherwise...

If you don't like the rules, leave.

[jonnysomething]

justice4all,

Don't waste your time with these guys.  They are just BCX left and right nuts, sucking him hard for some brownie points.


-tb-

Hahaha what would "sucking him hard for some brownie points" do for me?
BCX is in no way involved with the project I'm launching, and to be honest, aside from mining I don't know what his skills are so I have absolutely no reason to brown nose him. However, I do think this forum is a scam-filled cesspool and I fully support anyone working hard to call them out.

I'm sorry if this means I'm sucking his nuts.

[Lauda]

Lol this thread is getting ridiculous.

It was ridiculous from the beginning.

[justice4all]

In what part of that post was I rude to you? I stand by every word I said there, and they were not said in anger.

To me it came across as rude and combatative esp when your putting shouting stuff in CAPS but I guess we will have to agree to disagree on that one.

No, I'm not. I'm simply explaining why I don't think BCX is what you're making him out to be. I don't care if DGC flops or succeeds. I don't care if BCX stays or gets banned. I don't care if you stop coming to this forum. I am simply stating my opinion as formed by reading this forum.  I haven't had him chasing me around calling me a scam artist, so obviously my opinion of him is going to be more positive than yours. He claimed to supply evidence, if it was debunked... that's cool! Post that here. Don't just randomly complain with no evidence.

Ok so just to be clear I'm calling him out about being a bully for a start. So you don't agree then based on the evidence of him threatening/partaking in DDOSing people's websites for his own twisted enjoyment? These are sites he has interfered with or threatened that are most likely sites created by alot of hard work. Why should he be allowed to threaten peoples hobbies/livelyhoods like that?

Here are some examples:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=500548.msg5529479#msg5529479

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=236630.msg2501414#msg2501414

https://bitcointa.lk/threads/digitalcoin-dev-robbed.281105/page-13#post-5491906

BCX scammer poll

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=96188.0

Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? Where is his proof? He should prove his allegations not the other way around. He hasn't proven anything because he can't.

Yes, I do. But in case you don't:
spam

1. irrelevant or inappropriate messages sent on the Internet to a large number of recipients

You personally viewing his comments as inappropriate because you're highly invested in the product he's calling down does not make them spam. That would mean that any person who ever posted in a thread saying a coin was a scam and the reason why was spamming - which they are not. If you feel his comments are spam, report them and let the moderators decide. Otherwise...

Your cherry picking the definition of internet spamming there, its alot broader than that. If someone is posting multiple threads of an annoying and unwanted nature about the same subject that can be considered spam too.